Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:15:10 PM
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Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:23:03 PM
The oline is getting eaten alive
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 06:23:36 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 06:23:47 PM
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 06:24:06 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 06:27:17 PM
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Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 06:30:53 PM
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 06:31:35 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 06:32:52 PM
Why do we continually throw 1 yard passes in the flat?
Hoping it works 1 out of 10,000 attempts...
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 06:33:15 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 16, 2024, 06:34:23 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 06:38:40 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 06:43:04 PM
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 06:43:22 PM
Because on OC is an unimaginative, timid loser
This team has other issues, but this is by far and away the biggest one. Things will obviously not get better until he is removed.
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:43:36 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 06:44:00 PM
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Post by: Boakai on November 16, 2024, 06:49:08 PM
Because on OC is an unimaginative, timid loser
This team has other issues, but this is by far and away the biggest one. Things will obviously not get better until he is removed.
But guys it can’t be the coaches fault for squandering all this talent on hot garbage play calls….”PLAYER. LED. TEAM….and they tell us every opportunity they get.
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 06:50:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 06:50:33 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 06:51:15 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on November 16, 2024, 06:51:31 PM
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Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 06:51:49 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:51:55 PM
They have an open receiver (by at least five yards) on every pass play. Thank God the QB isn't seeing them.Well he saw him this time
Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2024, 06:52:10 PM
But it's just one score and things can change fast in college football at this level.very true, it quickly becomes a two touchdown game
Post by: KSUinDC5547 on November 16, 2024, 06:52:37 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:53:39 PM
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 06:54:04 PM
I’m looking forward to some 1-yard passes behind the line of scrimmage on this next drive.
But first let’s call a timeout to decide which side to throw it
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 06:54:33 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 06:54:37 PM
Post by: porky morgan on November 16, 2024, 06:55:42 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 06:55:56 PM
Post by: Boakai on November 16, 2024, 06:57:14 PM
Surely Giddens between the tackles will move the chains this drive, right?
I’m looking forward to some 1-yard passes behind the line of scrimmage on this next drive.
These two posts perfectly illustrate why defenses can tee off on the cats offense. The whole stadium and tv audience knows what’s coming
Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 06:57:21 PM
Because on OC is an unimaginative, timid loser
This team has other issues, but this is by far and away the biggest one. Things will obviously not get better until he is removed.
No way he survives.
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 06:57:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 06:59:06 PM
I don't know what's to blame, but the offense looks horribly lost :frown:
Matt Wells
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 06:59:14 PM
I don't know what's to blame, but the offense looks horribly lost :frown:
It's very simple. Fire Conner Riley
Post by: porky morgan on November 16, 2024, 06:59:27 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:03:10 PM
I'm leaving at halftime and not coming back in. Just going to drink in the parking lot
You should have left sooner
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 07:03:38 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:03:55 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 07:04:02 PM
I'm leaving at halftime and not coming back in. Just going to drink in the parking lot
Are those boos I’m hearing over the broadcast?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 07:04:20 PM
Post by: Purple Derpathy on November 16, 2024, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:05:50 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:06:58 PM
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 07:07:08 PM
I'm leaving at halftime and not coming back in. Just going to drink in the parking lot
Are those boos I’m hearing over the broadcast?
Yes, the stadium is actively booing the team
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:07:35 PM
I guess this is what happens when your secondary transfers.I mean I think the offense has maybe been worse? It's a tight race.
Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 07:08:04 PM
This is a bad football team. Can't mince words here.
Klieman looks like he doesn't have much left in the tank
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 07:08:31 PM
Post by: stunted on November 16, 2024, 07:09:42 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:10:17 PM
Post by: stunted on November 16, 2024, 07:11:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:12:01 PM
i think we are the new texas but the bad verison. good players but softI'm not sure we have good players outside of Avery and DJamer
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 16, 2024, 07:12:31 PM
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Post by: KSUinDC5547 on November 16, 2024, 07:15:21 PM
Post by: stunted on November 16, 2024, 07:15:46 PM
i think we are the new texas but the bad verison. good players but softI'm not sure we have good players outside of Avery and DJamer
maybe i'm still drinking the kso koolaid.
5 nfl dbs :lol: :cry:
Post by: Boakai on November 16, 2024, 07:16:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 07:17:36 PM
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Post by: kstater on November 16, 2024, 07:17:49 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:18:09 PM
At least we're sucking in all 3 phases
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That's called balance
Post by: kcnut on November 16, 2024, 07:18:33 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 07:18:44 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:19:33 PM
Post by: Woogy on November 16, 2024, 07:20:05 PM
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Post by: porky morgan on November 16, 2024, 07:20:39 PM
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Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 07:21:39 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 16, 2024, 07:22:20 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 16, 2024, 07:22:49 PM
The highlight reel for this game requires Benny Hill music.
We may need Gill's video man to produce a few highlights vids starting with this game. :Yuck:
Post by: Purple Derpathy on November 16, 2024, 07:22:55 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 16, 2024, 07:23:54 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 16, 2024, 07:25:01 PM
And that's rich considering that's something Klieman talks about all the time.
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:25:50 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 07:27:08 PM
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 07:30:40 PM
Conner.
Riley.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 16, 2024, 07:30:45 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 16, 2024, 07:31:21 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 07:31:35 PM
Blame whatever on this thing, but there's no getting around it - when you lose to one of the worst teams in the league, have a bye week, and then come out as flat as we have in this game - there is a culture issue on this team.
And that's rich considering that's something Klieman talks about all the time.
Talking and hype is what this program does best. No substance.
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 07:32:35 PM
Our players don't seem to understand where the first down line is. Our wr catches the ball two yards behind the line to gain and signal first down, and our defense lets the runner get two yards across the line and signal forth down....
Signaling a first down llooks stupid base case when you’re getting blanked by three scores at home.
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 07:33:30 PM
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Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 07:33:58 PM
Worst part about this season is I really bought into the hype at the start of the year. Painful to see a team get worse as the season progresses.
I remember when the Cats had "the most dynamic backfield in college football"
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 07:34:29 PM
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 07:35:23 PM
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Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 07:35:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 07:35:39 PM
That's a stop!
:lynchmob:
Post by: KST8FAN on November 16, 2024, 07:36:46 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:37:28 PM
What's good on Netflix right now?Just recently discovered Detroiters. Gives me Flight of the Conchords vibes.
Post by: kstater on November 16, 2024, 07:37:29 PM
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Post by: CNS on November 16, 2024, 07:37:57 PM
Cooper Beebe or Kobe Savage?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 07:37:59 PM
How bad is Edward's hurt? Looked like a hamstring?I don't think it really matters. He's probably done for a while though.
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Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 07:38:26 PM
DeverauxWhat's good on Netflix right now?Just recently discovered Detroiters. Gives me Flight of the Conchords vibes.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 07:39:00 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:40:23 PM
Our players don't seem to understand where the first down line is. Our wr catches the ball two yards behind the line to gain and signal first down, and our defense lets the runner get two yards across the line and signal forth down....The defense has been a significantly bigger disappointment to me. Offense has been hindered by some flukey plays (including the stupid ineligible man 4 yards downfield), plus obviously some subpar playcalling.
Post by: porky morgan on November 16, 2024, 07:41:24 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 16, 2024, 07:42:12 PM
What's good on Netflix right now?Just recently discovered Detroiters. Gives me Flight of the Conchords vibes.
Love the Conchords, will try.
Post by: CNS on November 16, 2024, 07:42:48 PM
This feels like the game that could submarine Kleiman's tenure.
He is getting paid far more than Coleman Hawkins.
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:43:39 PM
This feels like the game that could submarine Kleiman's tenure.I’m optimistic it forces a OC change. If we keep our key players in the offseason I think we’re fine to make a run for it next year with Kleiman. His seat is a long way from hot IMO.
Post by: porky morgan on November 16, 2024, 07:51:19 PM
Post by: Woogy on November 16, 2024, 07:51:58 PM
Our players don't seem to understand where the first down line is. Our wr catches the ball two yards behind the line to gain and signal first down, and our defense lets the runner get two yards across the line and signal forth down....The defense has been a significantly bigger disappointment to me. Offense has been hindered by some flukey plays (including the stupid ineligible man 4 yards downfield), plus obviously some subpar playcalling.
Apart from pride.... Would you put it out there to get the ball back for these play calls? This execution?
Post by: lolzcatz83 on November 16, 2024, 07:52:39 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:52:45 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:53:54 PM
I have no idea what any of that meansOur players don't seem to understand where the first down line is. Our wr catches the ball two yards behind the line to gain and signal first down, and our defense lets the runner get two yards across the line and signal forth down....The defense has been a significantly bigger disappointment to me. Offense has been hindered by some flukey plays (including the stupid ineligible man 4 yards downfield), plus obviously some subpar playcalling.
Apart from pride.... Would you put it out there to get the ball back for these play calls? This execution?
Post by: kstater on November 16, 2024, 07:55:35 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:55:59 PM
Yeah. But if I'm Avery I might look around. Not gonna look very attractive to top transfers. And the slide would begin.Losing Avery would be devastating, but I also doubt anyone values him more than we do right now. He’s clearly talented but hasn’t put anything on the field yet that would convince a contender that he could lead their program to a deep playoff run.
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 07:56:11 PM
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Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 07:57:54 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2024, 07:58:07 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 07:59:32 PM
are our players betting on games?If they are they clearly bet the alternate spread.
Post by: lolzcatz83 on November 16, 2024, 08:01:12 PM
:ksu:
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:01:56 PM
anothr rough ridin' defensive back FALLING DOWN...Things can't be anything but piss poor footwork and by extension coaching.
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 08:02:06 PM
I'vd about had my fill of Kleiman...
Help us CK7, you’re our only hope
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 08:02:11 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 08:02:30 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:02:47 PM
anothr rough ridin' defensive back FALLING DOWN...To be fair, he was open anyway
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 08:02:53 PM
Post by: lolzcatz83 on November 16, 2024, 08:03:06 PM
:Wha: :billdance:
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 08:05:22 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 08:07:23 PM
Post by: Purple Derpathy on November 16, 2024, 08:10:09 PM
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 16, 2024, 08:13:37 PM
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Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:17:59 PM
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 08:18:28 PM
WE NEED 50cc’s OF ADAM HELM, STAT
Throw Roberson in there. He looked good for 3 plays in Boulder.
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 08:18:36 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 08:26:21 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:26:42 PM
Post by: TaqMan on November 16, 2024, 08:27:58 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 08:28:28 PM
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Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 08:29:56 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:31:10 PM
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 08:32:50 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 08:32:53 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:33:04 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:33:33 PM
Liepold should be fired for losing to us.
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 08:33:43 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 08:34:05 PM
That was a great play by ASU’s QB.
Yeah
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 08:34:55 PM
It was fine. Their WR should not have been that open after 3 seconds.That was a great play by ASU’s QB.
Yeah
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:34:57 PM
So
rough ridin'
Slow
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:35:36 PM
No. A player with even average speed breaks that play.It was fine. Their WR should not have been that open after 3 seconds.That was a great play by ASU’s QB.
Yeah
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:39:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 08:40:45 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:41:29 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:42:00 PM
Lol if they fake it hereI don't doubt they'd get it if they did
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 08:43:23 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:44:43 PM
Post by: fatdamon on November 16, 2024, 08:46:24 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 08:47:38 PM
I wonder where Edwardss and Brown will be next year?
dude, don't do this to yourself
Post by: PurpleOil on November 16, 2024, 08:47:55 PM
I AINT HEARD NO FAT LADY
That's because she left the stadium at halftime too
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 08:48:36 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on November 16, 2024, 08:49:13 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 08:49:19 PM
I can't help it. After they last two weeks, I've lost all hopI wonder where Edwardss and Brown will be next year?
dude, don't do this to yourself
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 08:51:35 PM
Who has Gunther Cunninghams 2 pt play chart? What do we do here after scoring?
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pass to
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:52:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 08:52:38 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:53:34 PM
The asu CHONGS is sweating so hard rnI hope we embarrass his dumb stinky ass
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:58:37 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 08:59:44 PM
ASU CHONGS thinks they'll get this! Is he right?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:00:25 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 09:01:22 PM
that's a good quarterback...
That's what a 4 star second year QB with good coaching can look like
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 09:02:37 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:03:28 PM
Score here somewhat quickly, oh boy
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:03:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 09:04:02 PM
We just ran out of time
Yeah, mumped around too long
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 09:04:50 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:04:54 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:05:03 PM
We just ran out of time
Yeah, mumped around too long
really needed the points before half time
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:06:52 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:07:54 PM
So did the defense do enough to win? Considering how little the O moved the ball thru 3 quarters.No the defense was horrible in the first half
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 09:14:01 PM
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Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 09:16:10 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:17:02 PM
That run might be the dumbest call I've ever seen in my lifeInsane play call. Just crazy in that situation
Post by: wetwillie on November 16, 2024, 09:17:48 PM
rough ridin' snapping
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 09:18:08 PM
That run might be the dumbest call I've ever seen in my lifeInsane play call. Just crazy in that situation
It was pretty shocking
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:18:09 PM
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 09:18:22 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:18:27 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 09:18:39 PM
4D chess Kleiman allowed it to happen so we could get a new OC for next year.That run might be the dumbest call I've ever seen in my lifeInsane play call. Just crazy in that situation
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 16, 2024, 09:19:52 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:21:35 PM
It could be 24-20. And a shot. And now it's doneTwo fg's effed up. Maybe a special teams coach is needed.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:21:57 PM
rough ridin' snapping
Fair, I can't watch it so only guessing
Post by: TaqMan on November 16, 2024, 09:23:20 PM
It could be 24-20. And a shot. And now it's doneTwo fg's effed up. Maybe a special teams coach is needed.
Oh wait...
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:23:24 PM
If Klieman doesn't make some personnel changes after this game, he needs to be fired for negligence.
if it happens, it'll be after the season
Post by: goCats101 on November 16, 2024, 09:23:28 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:25:06 PM
What did our snapper and holder do for the past 2 weeks
:cheers:
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 16, 2024, 09:25:19 PM
The problem with this team is on the offensive side of the ball (and the inability to execute a snap from the long snapper).
Whether that's on Riley, Klieman, the other coaches - whatever. If this team plays even competently on the offensive side of the ball, we win this game (and the game against Houston too).
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 09:26:58 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:27:20 PM
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 09:28:01 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:28:27 PM
The defense came to play (despite its deficiencies - particularly in the secondary).Houston didn't throw an incomplete pass all game. The defense is very bad.
The problem with this team is on the offensive side of the ball (and the inability to execute a snap from the long snapper).
Whether that's on Riley, Klieman, the other coaches - whatever. If this team plays even competently on the offensive side of the ball, we win this game (and the game against Houston too).
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 09:29:27 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 09:29:59 PM
My hope is this makes coaches realize Avery is good and shouldn't do touch passes in the backfield all gameI posted this right before the interception but the point stands
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:30:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 09:30:34 PM
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 09:30:43 PM
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:31:13 PM
My hope is this makes coaches realize Avery is good and shouldn't do touch passes in the backfield all gameI posted this right before the interception but the point stands
Yeah, desperation plays end that way not mad at that. Would've looked better score wise
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:31:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 09:32:10 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:32:17 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:32:21 PM
The defense came to play (despite its deficiencies - particularly in the secondary).
The problem with this team is on the offensive side of the ball (and the inability to execute a snap from the long snapper).
Whether that's on Riley, Klieman, the other coaches - whatever. If this team plays even competently on the offensive side of the ball, we win this game (and the game against Houston too).
Agree, this is on the offense. Defense had a rough first half, but field position, offensive turnovers, and three and outs played into that
Post by: chum1 on November 16, 2024, 09:33:01 PM
Riley: [pulls out playbook titled "worst rough ridin' QB runs in history"]
Post by: zackole1 on November 16, 2024, 09:33:36 PM
Maybe it's time for a change for Kansas State football. How high up? I guess that's up to Klieman.
including Kleiman...
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 16, 2024, 09:34:09 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:34:48 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:36:03 PM
Happy NOWINber to those who celebrateOh man when was the last time that happened?
Post by: catastrophe on November 16, 2024, 09:37:30 PM
I agree with this take.The defense came to play (despite its deficiencies - particularly in the secondary).
The problem with this team is on the offensive side of the ball (and the inability to execute a snap from the long snapper).
Whether that's on Riley, Klieman, the other coaches - whatever. If this team plays even competently on the offensive side of the ball, we win this game (and the game against Houston too).
Agree, this is on the offense. Defense had a rough first half, but field position, offensive turnovers, and three and outs played into that
Although to be fair we had two shitty FG snaps and 1 BS man downfield call. So arguably offense also did enough.
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:39:01 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:39:07 PM
Our defense is NOT good.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 16, 2024, 09:39:52 PM
I bet it probably happened a time or two between 04-08. Rough 5 year stretchHappy NOWINber to those who celebrateOh man when was the last time that happened?
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 16, 2024, 09:39:52 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
The coaching staff allowing a minute + to melt off the clock by substituting on the second to last drive was also a brilliant strategy.
They did it more than once!
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:45:55 PM
It was only 2007 in my quick lookI bet it probably happened a time or two between 04-08. Rough 5 year stretchHappy NOWINber to those who celebrateOh man when was the last time that happened?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 09:47:23 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 16, 2024, 09:49:37 PM
The coaching staff allowing a minute + to melt off the clock by substituting on the second to last drive was also a brilliant strategy.
Yep, that was sad hurry up offense on display, and Avery going down in bounds short of the first down also cost another ~ 30 seconds
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:53:31 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2024, 09:54:18 PM
The coaching staff allowing a minute + to melt off the clock by substituting on the second to last drive was also a brilliant strategy.
They did it more than once!
Stanbot was besides himself
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 09:57:34 PM
When you lose Stanbot ...The coaching staff allowing a minute + to melt off the clock by substituting on the second to last drive was also a brilliant strategy.
They did it more than once!
Stanbot was besides himself
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 09:59:58 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 10:01:50 PM
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on November 16, 2024, 10:11:14 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 10:13:36 PM
If Riley gets demoted, can he still coach the O line or is it better to start over?No. The oline is particularly bad.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 16, 2024, 10:22:20 PM
The defense came to play (despite its deficiencies - particularly in the secondary).Houston didn't throw an incomplete pass all game. The defense is very bad.
The problem with this team is on the offensive side of the ball (and the inability to execute a snap from the long snapper).
Whether that's on Riley, Klieman, the other coaches - whatever. If this team plays even competently on the offensive side of the ball, we win this game (and the game against Houston too).
Our offense - and AJs poor INTs - are what put the defense in bad positions.
Is our defense a top 10 unit? Nope.
But, the problems with effort, scheme, playcalling, etc. are largely more on the offense vs. the defense.
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2024, 10:23:12 PM
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 10:23:51 PM
If Riley gets demoted, can he still coach the O line or is it better to start over?No. The oline is particularly bad.
Charlie Dickey may be looking for a job soon. Hell, bring Joe Bob as well. Can’t be any worse.
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 10:24:38 PM
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on November 16, 2024, 10:34:20 PM
He is also nursing an injury, he can't juke like be could before CU. The straight up the gut run was the only time we saw his speed flash. I think the last interception was also tied to this injury, if you watch his torso as he tries to throw on the run.
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 10:38:39 PM
Sophomore slump. This is a building year, I finally excepted it tonight. I really didn't want to, but the proof is on film. Name a KSU quarterback that didn't have growing pains.I've acknowledgeed this as well. He's ahead of Roberson as a sophomore and way far ahead of Howard. Bishop and Beasley were good as first-year starters, but they were juniors.
He is also nursing an injury, he can't juke like be could before CU. The straight up the gut run was the only time we saw his speed flash. I think the last interception was also tied to this injury, if you watch his torso as he tries to throw on the run.
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 10:40:22 PM
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Post by: wayoutwestwillie on November 16, 2024, 10:46:01 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 10:48:36 PM
Oline and play callingIt goes beyond play calling, tho that's bad. The offensive scheme is straight backed and lacks the creative touch Avery's talents demands.
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Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 16, 2024, 11:14:27 PM
I guess I'm content with a coach that wins 7-9 games a year even when we should do better? eff it.
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on November 16, 2024, 11:28:28 PM
Post by: Benja on November 17, 2024, 12:41:10 AM
Would make some sense though, because the culture/energy on this team seems mumped lately.
We need a new OC next year and new offensive scheme. Anyone in this thread saying otherwise is nuts. Watching Avery out there looking like he’s trying to solve a calculus equation before he decides what to do on every play is painful. His instincts seem coached out of him, injury or not. And btw, if he’s that injured, how ‘bout let him heal up. I’d recommend people be more pissed. This is ridiculous.
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Post by: nicname on November 17, 2024, 12:44:32 AM
Yes. Word is he’s been going through some stuff for awhile. Fairly serious. Not like Bill Self’s heart territory, but not fun. Not sure what the deal is.
Would make some sense though, because the culture/energy on this team seems mumped lately.
We need a new OC next year and new offensive scheme. Anyone in this thread saying otherwise is nuts. Watching Avery out there looking like he’s trying to solve a calculus equation before he decides what to do on every play is painful. His instincts seem coached out of him, injury or not. And btw, if he’s that injured, how ‘bout let him heal up. I’d recommend people be more pissed. This is ridiculous.
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Welcome back, and great post.
I’m personally just counting the days until Klein returns to lead us to the promised land.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 17, 2024, 12:46:17 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2024, 06:17:43 AM
Klieman's postgame was pretty revealing - seems like he's at a loss for what's happened the last two games. He does the right thing in accepting blame (I need to be better, etc), but really seems like he doesn't know where to go from here.
I think we are nearing the end of the Klieman era
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 17, 2024, 09:20:49 AM
Sophomore slump. This is a building year, I finally excepted it tonight. I really didn't want to, but the proof is on film. Name a KSU quarterback that didn't have growing pains.
He is also nursing an injury, he can't juke like be could before CU. The straight up the gut run was the only time we saw his speed flash. I think the last interception was also tied to this injury, if you watch his torso as he tries to throw on the run.
This offense has him standing flat footed in the pocket looking down 1 of 2 reads. And often (IMO) it’s a single read where the ball has to get out on the 10 yard slant or dig. To small WR’s. I didn’t see him play in HS so I can’t comment on how well he threw. But in this offense he’s missed open receivers for big plays a dozen times. AJ is not a great thrower on the run that I’ve seen and maybe that in part due to his being injured. On the run he sails a lot of throws. It’s correctable, but I don’t know if this OC is a big help.
Spivey played really well yesterday and I’m glad he finally made a few catches. That fade wasn’t thrown particularly well, but 6’4” 230 is the guy to go get it. He’d also be a great option on the slants this OC seems so in love with.
Post by: Woogy on November 17, 2024, 10:34:55 AM
Yes. Word is he’s been going through some stuff for awhile. Fairly serious. Not like Bill Self’s heart territory, but not fun. Not sure what the deal is.
Would make some sense though, because the culture/energy on this team seems mumped lately.
We need a new OC next year and new offensive scheme. Anyone in this thread saying otherwise is nuts. Watching Avery out there looking like he’s trying to solve a calculus equation before he decides what to do on every play is painful. His instincts seem coached out of him, injury or not. And btw, if he’s that injured, how ‘bout let him heal up. I’d recommend people be more pissed. This is ridiculous.
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Yes, these revelations provide a lot of context, and would seem to indicate that Riley/Wells and Klanderman are being allowed towork on their own direction rather than under a comprehensive framework of fully involved head coach. Failing upwards, so to speak. Just all speculation, though.
Post by: ELL3 on November 17, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
Klieman's postgame was pretty revealing - seems like he's at a loss for what's happened the last two games. He does the right thing in accepting blame (I need to be better, etc), but really seems like he doesn't know where to go from here.
I think we are nearing the end of the Klieman era
Who's next?
Post by: Woogy on November 17, 2024, 10:39:34 AM
Klieman's postgame was pretty revealing - seems like he's at a loss for what's happened the last two games. He does the right thing in accepting blame (I need to be better, etc), but really seems like he doesn't know where to go from here.
I think we are nearing the end of the Klieman era
I would not be surprised, at this point.
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2024, 10:45:31 AM
Klieman's postgame was pretty revealing - seems like he's at a loss for what's happened the last two games. He does the right thing in accepting blame (I need to be better, etc), but really seems like he doesn't know where to go from here.
I think we are nearing the end of the Klieman era
Who's next?
Have to think Klein would be at or near the top of the list
Post by: goCats101 on November 17, 2024, 11:50:52 AM
Post by: Benja on November 17, 2024, 12:18:15 PM
Yes. Word is he’s been going through some stuff for awhile. Fairly serious. Not like Bill Self’s heart territory, but not fun. Not sure what the deal is.
Would make some sense though, because the culture/energy on this team seems mumped lately.
We need a new OC next year and new offensive scheme. Anyone in this thread saying otherwise is nuts. Watching Avery out there looking like he’s trying to solve a calculus equation before he decides what to do on every play is painful. His instincts seem coached out of him, injury or not. And btw, if he’s that injured, how ‘bout let him heal up. I’d recommend people be more pissed. This is ridiculous.
Haven’t posted on this board forever, glad it’s still around! Cheers
Welcome back, and great post.
I’m personally just counting the days until Klein returns to lead us to the promised land.
Thanks nicname! Was just talkin’ to a k state bud about Klien this morning. Would be nice to bring him back as OC/associate head coach in waiting
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2024, 04:00:59 PM
Any word on why Keagan Johnson and Jason Jackson didn’t play?johnson has a bad hammy
Post by: goCats101 on November 17, 2024, 06:29:13 PM
Any word on why Keagan Johnson and Jason Jackson didn’t play?johnson has a bad hammy
TY
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2024, 06:31:38 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2024, 06:33:14 PM
Post by: Cire on November 18, 2024, 12:44:43 PM
I think Avery is still hurt from CU game
There was a play that I think was supposed to be a run and Avery was running right and then tried to plant/cutback upfield and he kind of crumbled. During the game I though he may have even had an injury on the play. I'll have to find it on tape
Post by: deputy dawg on November 18, 2024, 01:12:31 PM
Come on guys. ASU played very conservative in the second half after they turned it over. There's no doubt they could have scored another TD if they needed to.
Our defense is NOT good.
I don't know what to kick my dog about first: Missing assignments, or slow players.
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 07:28:28 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 18, 2024, 09:58:36 PM
Klieman's postgame was pretty revealing - seems like he's at a loss for what's happened the last two games. He does the right thing in accepting blame (I need to be better, etc), but really seems like he doesn't know where to go from here.
I think we are nearing the end of the Klieman era
My conspiracy theory is that those closest to Klieman knew he wasn't going to be coaching much longer. Possibly related to whatever concerns he's alluded to after the last two games. And Klein was told to go get a year or two of experience somewhere else so he could come back as HC. Granted, I think something happened in the past month or so to speed up whatever timeline they were planning on.
Post by: stunted on November 20, 2024, 05:38:31 PM
think it could be something with his health, kind of in line with what stevesie says
Post by: schreds21 on November 20, 2024, 07:41:40 PM
they say it's something to do with a close friend but not family? the reaction to this almost seems like on the level of a death of a family member with how much this has affected him. strange stuff.Maybe he's good freinds with Brent's wife
think it could be something with his health, kind of in line with what stevesie says
Post by: Cire on November 20, 2024, 08:06:42 PM
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 20, 2024, 09:33:59 PM
Post by: Cire on November 21, 2024, 05:53:09 AM
Whatever it is (as sad/tragic as it might be), the fact that the rest of the coaches couldn't hold this thing together is a pretty damning indictment about their capabilitiesYeah. I think that is what ck realized after Saturday
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Post by: deputy dawg on November 21, 2024, 08:50:22 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 22, 2024, 09:13:21 AM
Third hand info is wife’s side and sudden medical tragedy
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99.9% sure this is true.