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Title: Matt Wells
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2024, 11:26:02 AM
He's not making a great impression so far.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2024, 11:29:02 AM
When was the last time a head coach (not named Saban) hired a washed up coach and it didn't end up a disaster?

KU and KSU are both experiencing that bad decision.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2024, 11:54:08 AM
Venzy hired Sextrell as his OC at OU and it's probably gonna get him fired.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 12:03:21 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: schreds21 on September 22, 2024, 12:04:36 PM
Maybe he should.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 12:14:00 PM
Would it matter? Klieman has had 3 offensive coordinators since he's been here, he's going to put his mark on the offense either way. It's not like we're going to implement the run and shoot.

By the way, don't take this as an indictment of Klieman, Wells, or Connor Riley, from me. I think being mad at the play calling last night is reactionary and inconsistent. The rub on Klieman teams is how conservative he usually is closing out and opening halves. He wasn't conservative last night and two freak plays completely turned the game around, DJs fumble and the punt return. Avery's interceptions weren't freak plays and I'm not sure how anyone can blame anyone but Avery for them.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2024, 12:15:48 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2024, 12:17:19 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Especially given how our young QB is performing
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: kim carnes on September 22, 2024, 12:27:57 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2024, 12:39:04 PM
We didn't score a TD.  Freak plays be damned.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2024, 01:01:08 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG. 
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Cire on September 22, 2024, 01:02:27 PM
Avery was bad on the read options


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Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: kim carnes on September 22, 2024, 01:24:39 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG.

I had the same thought, but sadly I think they believe we had a better chance to get the first down doing that than through the air.  The reason it’s sad is they might be right.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2024, 01:30:47 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG. 

In hindsight I think we did that because we had lost confidence in Avery being able to secure a first down via pass and just wanted to setup the field goal if DJamer couldn't pick up the first down.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2024, 01:33:20 PM
Wasn't that our first drive of the game?

If you don't have enough confidence in your QB to throw on 3rd and long in the red zone then you shouldn't play him.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2024, 01:40:37 PM
Wasn't that our first drive of the game?

If you don't have enough confidence in your QB to throw on 3rd and long in the red zone then you shouldn't play him.



It's not a great place to be, I agree.


Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: _33 on September 22, 2024, 01:46:20 PM
More like Matt Welp.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 22, 2024, 02:21:06 PM
More like Matt Welp.

 :billdance:
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 04:37:14 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG.

That was a terrible play call. I actually didn't mind the field goal call, if you thought we were coming back we would have needed one, but you can't run that play if you aren't going for it on 4th.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2024, 04:39:31 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG.

That was a terrible play call. I actually didn't mind the field goal call, if you thought we were coming back we would have needed one, but you can't run that play if you aren't going for it on 4th.

chings is referring to the opening drive
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 04:41:21 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Especially given how our young QB is performing

You know full well that's not how it works, at all. He had a bad game, that's going to happen. I'm much more concerned about the receivers, them and the o line were much worse than the quarterback.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 04:44:29 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG.

That was a terrible play call. I actually didn't mind the field goal call, if you thought we were coming back we would have needed one, but you can't run that play if you aren't going for it on 4th.

chings is referring to the opening drive

I thought he was talking about the second drive of the third quarter.

We were running the ball really really well for the entire first quarter, but that sequence was inexcusable. Was that the play after we had a huge run called back by an illegal formation?
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2024, 04:52:24 PM
We ran Giddens off tackle on 3rd and 9 in the red zone.  To set up going for it on fourth?  No to kick a FG.

That was a terrible play call. I actually didn't mind the field goal call, if you thought we were coming back we would have needed one, but you can't run that play if you aren't going for it on 4th.

chings is referring to the opening drive

I thought he was talking about the second drive of the third quarter.

We were running the ball really really well for the entire first quarter, but that sequence was inexcusable. Was that the play after we had a huge run called back by an illegal formation?

I think it was immediately after we had almost a sure touchdown pass called back for illegal snap.






Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Why hire a seasoned former head coach for that role (which includes co-coordinator) if he isn't going to have any influence on the overall strategy? I'm assuming that type of coach comes at a premium?

Also you have to admit the quarterback hasn't looked great. (I know he's very young but it doesn't seem like he isn't fitting in with the offense or vice versa)
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2024, 04:54:21 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Especially given how our young QB is performing

You know full well that's not how it works, at all. He had a bad game, that's going to happen. I'm much more concerned about the receivers, them and the o line were much worse than the quarterback.

I'm not entirely certain we watched the same game if you think the QB wasn't the worst performer last night.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2024, 05:40:23 PM
Prob not Wells-related, but we seem to have something funky going on w our snap cadence. I can’t think of any other way to describe all the false starts.

Also, not sure if the rules have changed, but it seemed like our RG was moving pre-snap basically every play. Like, he would adjust his arm position like a half second before every snap.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 05:51:06 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Why hire a seasoned former head coach for that role (which includes co-coordinator) if he isn't going to have any influence on the overall strategy? I'm assuming that type of coach comes at a premium?

Also you have to admit the quarterback hasn't looked great. (I know he's very young but it doesn't seem like he isn't fitting in with the offense or vice versa)
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Saying he doesn't have influence on the overall strategy is extreme, I certainly didn't say that.  I assume quarterback coaches are integral in assisting with the game plan and getting the QB ready during the week. He doesn't call plays.

As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 05:53:46 PM
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Especially given how our young QB is performing

You know full well that's not how it works, at all. He had a bad game, that's going to happen. I'm much more concerned about the receivers, them and the o line were much worse than the quarterback.

I'm not entirely certain we watched the same game if you think the QB wasn't the worst performer last night.

We had 5 drops and 6 SIX! pre snap penalties.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2024, 05:57:05 PM
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

people were definitely complaining about wells in game threads the first couple of games. I think Avery often looks tentative and indecisive. I think it's both play calling and "quarterback coaching" at play. (plus inexperience)

on the pre-snap penalties I honestly was surprised we didn't get more. seemed like one of the guards was always twitching. also QB has an influence on some of those pre-snap penalties - I think a couple were not everyone being set which I think is the inexperience at play
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2024, 06:03:22 PM
Prob not Wells-related, but we seem to have something funky going on w our snap cadence. I can’t think of any other way to describe all the false starts.

Also, not sure if the rules have changed, but it seemed like our RG was moving pre-snap basically every play. Like, he would adjust his arm position like a half second before every snap.

Before today, we had two false start penalties the first three games.

I know what you mean about the flinching and early starts though. I notice it when watching other games too. There hasn't been any rules changes. I just think it's easier to see these on TV now with better technology. It can be tough for a line judge to catch all of that, when we have a 1080p overhead of all the linemen, that's a much better angle to see everything they're doing.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: KST8FAN on September 22, 2024, 06:40:06 PM
Prob not Wells-related, but we seem to have something funky going on w our snap cadence. I can’t think of any other way to describe all the false starts.

Also, not sure if the rules have changed, but it seemed like our RG was moving pre-snap basically every play. Like, he would adjust his arm position like a half second before every snap.
If it's loud or unable to hear the snap cadence... a guard will check the backfield for QB to signal he's ready.  The guard then extends a hand, gets set, and rhe center snaps the ball.  It's a visual timing vs listening for the snap count.


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Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: _33 on September 22, 2024, 07:11:55 PM
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

I personally said we missed Collin Klein during the Tulane game. I was told everything was fine. Not sure what to believe now.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2024, 07:20:21 PM
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

I personally said we missed Collin Klein during the Tulane game. I was told everything was fine. Not sure what to believe now.

Agreed then and now. We miss him.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Katpappy on September 23, 2024, 04:20:02 AM
A lot of you guys bitched about Will Howard during his first two years and look at what he accomplished.  Avery will be fine; he needs time and experience.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: _33 on September 23, 2024, 07:59:32 AM
I thought we were bitching about Matt Wells.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: meow meow on September 23, 2024, 08:26:39 AM
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: PurpleOil on September 23, 2024, 08:30:50 AM
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2024, 09:30:08 AM
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.
Yeah some of those were close to 50/50 balls but a lot could easily have been completed with better timing, accuracy, or both. We desperately need to improve that aspect because the run game sets it up so beautifully.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: deputy dawg on September 23, 2024, 12:59:49 PM
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment. 
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: cfbandyman on September 23, 2024, 01:30:23 PM
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment.

It just totally derailed them. We weren't in total control of the game but it was going very well for us up to when they scored the FG. We looked competent, if not one of the better first half performances we've had to that point. The fumble/return I think scared us, the first INT made us completely incompetent. The INT after half sealed it, as did the punt return.

I think all of that then really played into the oline's issues, which then played into Avery's issues. I think they went from more or less playing to feeling like they had to play, and we're not experienced enough yet to overcome that.

Even as other's mentioned down 17-6 at half, while not great, was by no means insurmountable, especially if we scored a TD out of the half, and I think we almost just "expect" it to happen and when it doesn't it really bothers us. Hopefully all fixable but definitely worth looking at going forward.

I weirdly feel good about the OSU game, I think we're pissed enough and at home to come out and take care of business, but now when we go to Colorado I am going to be worried cause the crowd will be hostile and Deion is going to try and goad us to make mistakes.

Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: DQ12 on September 23, 2024, 01:51:59 PM
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Cire on September 23, 2024, 01:54:31 PM
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Same
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2024, 01:56:21 PM
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Same

Same but I still think we'll play for the Dr. P
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: nicname on September 23, 2024, 02:14:01 PM
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment.

It just totally derailed them. We weren't in total control of the game but it was going very well for us up to when they scored the FG. We looked competent, if not one of the better first half performances we've had to that point. The fumble/return I think scared us, the first INT made us completely incompetent. The INT after half sealed it, as did the punt return.

I think all of that then really played into the oline's issues, which then played into Avery's issues. I think they went from more or less playing to feeling like they had to play, and we're not experienced enough yet to overcome that.

Even as other's mentioned down 17-6 at half, while not great, was by no means insurmountable, especially if we scored a TD out of the half, and I think we almost just "expect" it to happen and when it doesn't it really bothers us. Hopefully all fixable but definitely worth looking at going forward.

I weirdly feel good about the OSU game, I think we're pissed enough and at home to come out and take care of business, but now when we go to Colorado I am going to be worried cause the crowd will be hostile and Deion is going to try and goad us to make mistakes.


Even with all the other bizarro garbage, we probably win the game if we’re able to jump on the loose pig during that punt return play.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Cire on September 23, 2024, 02:51:04 PM
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Same

Same but I still think we'll play for the Dr. P

I think we've still got a fairly high conference ceiling, we're going to get better. 

Long way from being sold on Riley as a play caller though.  Passing game is hard to tell if it is scheme/execution/personnel. Nothing looks/comes easy in our passing game.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: PurpleOil on September 24, 2024, 08:13:16 AM
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.
Yeah some of those were close to 50/50 balls but a lot could easily have been completed with better timing, accuracy, or both. We desperately need to improve that aspect because the run game sets it up so beautifully.

This is one of the biggest issues I'm seeing right now. Like you said, our run game is setting it up perfectly, but Avery is constantly overthrowing his receivers. Completing these passes will stop them from stacking the box and will really grab momentum during our offensive possessions. After this game, our opponents are going to dare us to throw it and we're going to need to execute.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: ChiComCat on September 24, 2024, 10:00:50 AM
Some of the time, I think WRs are quitting or slowing down early in their routes.  They shouldn't do that but also it's a result of few passes going to WRs to begin with.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 24, 2024, 10:19:47 AM
Best suggestion I've seen is to roll him out of the pocket a lot more and simplify the options.  Doesn't really play to his NFL aspirations but gotta win some ballgames.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: DQ12 on September 24, 2024, 10:40:51 AM
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Same

Same but I still think we'll play for the Dr. P

I think we've still got a fairly high conference ceiling, we're going to get better. 

Long way from being sold on Riley as a play caller though.  Passing game is hard to tell if it is scheme/execution/personnel. Nothing looks/comes easy in our passing game.
I think part of it is that, outside of the Jordan Love era, Matt Wells hasn't had very good offenses.  I've never been sold on him as some sort of passing game or qb guru.  And on the other side, we've got Conor Riley, which is kind of a black box as far as what he brings to the table (though the early returns aren't favorable!).

Part of it is starting a young QB who is in his second year of college, and first year under a new(ish?) system.

Part of it is an OL who is relatively inexperienced.

I think Avery will get better over the course of the season.  The game still looks like it's moving pretty fast for him.  He deep balls have STUNK!  I expect Avery to get a lot lot better over the next couple/few years.  I don't expect to get our OC situation changed by the start of next year, so for better or worse, I think the Avery/Riley/Wells group is going to be our offense for a while. 

Hopefully things work out and we can start finding a way to stretch the field more and give Edwards/DJamer/Avery a little more space in the run game.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: KST8FAN on September 25, 2024, 09:39:05 PM
https://wreckemred.com/posts/more-proof-of-why-matt-wells-was-one-of-the-worst-texas-tech-head-coaches-ever-01j88a6vzmhs

I was googling Matt Wells coaching background... this came up.


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Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2024, 02:40:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2024, 06:36:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: PurpleOil on September 26, 2024, 07:52:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

If it wasn't the answer, it damn sure should have been.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2024, 07:53:53 AM
The experts are really trying to crack this mystery
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2024, 07:54:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

Maybe watch. It has nothing to do with what you're speaking about. Curry Sexton is breaking down a few plays that could have changed the game. They are things that those of us with untrained eyes don't see. It was pretty informative, for me anyway.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 26, 2024, 09:03:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

Maybe watch. It has nothing to do with what you're speaking about. Curry Sexton is breaking down a few plays that could have changed the game. They are things that those of us with untrained eyes don't see. It was pretty informative, for me anyway.
I need the hat that Cole Manbeck is wearing.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: 'taterblast on September 26, 2024, 09:43:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

Maybe watch. It has nothing to do with what you're speaking about. Curry Sexton is breaking down a few plays that could have changed the game. They are things that those of us with untrained eyes don't see. It was pretty informative, for me anyway.

it's a must watch for any casual fan to remind them how absolutely little they know about football. (this includes myself). curry is pointing out things i would never ever even consider.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2024, 10:47:51 AM
avery clearly has the tools. but i think there's a few things making him playing all tight.

- i think the high of being seen as the chosen one and all that hype has gotten to his head (not in an arrogant way but who knows). any mistake will hurt that high, whereas any big play won't necessarily help it since he already feels like a million bucks
- avoiding hits. it's smart to do when there's little upside to fight for yards, but it's pretty well known he's trying to avoid any hit.
- wanting to be seen as a passer - added pressure, probably cares about stats at least subconsciously

or he's just young and not very good now. anyways he just had a very humbling game, so hopefully that loosens him up.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Winters on September 26, 2024, 10:54:42 AM
avery clearly has the tools. but i think there's a few things making him playing all tight.

- i think the high of being seen as the chosen one and all that hype has gotten to his head (not in an arrogant way but who knows). any mistake will hurt that high, whereas any big play won't necessarily help it since he already feels like a million bucks
- avoiding hits. it's smart to do when there's little upside to fight for yards, but it's pretty well known he's trying to avoid any hit.
- wanting to be seen as a passer - added pressure, probably cares about stats at least subconsciously

or he's just young and not very good now. anyways he just had a very humbling game, so hopefully that loosens him up.
Well said
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2024, 10:56:31 AM
avery clearly has the tools. but i think there's a few things making him playing all tight.

- i think the high of being seen as the chosen one and all that hype has gotten to his head (not in an arrogant way but who knows). any mistake will hurt that high, whereas any big play won't necessarily help it since he already feels like a million bucks
- avoiding hits. it's smart to do when there's little upside to fight for yards, but it's pretty well known he's trying to avoid any hit.
- wanting to be seen as a passer - added pressure, probably cares about stats at least subconsciously

or he's just young and not very good now. anyways he just had a very humbling game, so hopefully that loosens him up.

To my untrained eye he strikes me as a guy who is just overthinking everything. Like he's trying to remember the 1,000 coaching tips he got on each play. Kleiman has an excellent record of developing QBs so I'm not worried at all about him coming along over the next year or so.

Probably also worth noting that if he just had better outcomes on like 50% of the deep balls he's missed we'd be having a different conversation.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2024, 11:58:15 AM
i’m looking for a potent, high powered, offense.  unfortunately, that always seems like it’s a year away under Coach Ham & Potatoes face.

every year we seem to be missing whatever key component.  it’s some pretty lame crap.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2024, 12:38:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

Maybe watch. It has nothing to do with what you're speaking about. Curry Sexton is breaking down a few plays that could have changed the game. They are things that those of us with untrained eyes don't see. It was pretty informative, for me anyway.

it's a must watch for any casual fan to remind them how absolutely little they know about football. (this includes myself). curry is pointing out things i would never ever even consider.

The play with the double posts was probably my favorite one. I couldn't figure out what was wrong until he pointed it out.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2024, 01:39:52 PM
i’m looking for a potent, high powered, offense.  unfortunately, that always seems like it’s a year away under Coach Ham & Potatoes face.

every year we seem to be missing whatever key component.  it’s some pretty lame crap.

It's a damn shame


Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: goCats101 on September 28, 2024, 09:04:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Tw0qsEhQ1NGfzXlR&v=9sU97GpSrRo&feature=youtu.be
Um maybe the fumble return for a touchdown followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by an interception deep in our territory followed by a 2 play drive followed by the most ridiculous punt return touchdown in history is where it went wrong

(Did not watch but I'm assuming that's the answer)

Maybe watch. It has nothing to do with what you're speaking about. Curry Sexton is breaking down a few plays that could have changed the game. They are things that those of us with untrained eyes don't see. It was pretty informative, for me anyway.

it's a must watch for any casual fan to remind them how absolutely little they know about football. (this includes myself). curry is pointing out things i would never ever even consider.

The play with the double posts was probably my favorite one. I couldn't figure out what was wrong until he pointed it out.


I learned and enjoyed Curry’s analysis very much. Play calling hasn’t been perfect of course but after watching that I tend to think it’s far from being the rate determining step of our offensive success this season.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2024, 09:05:36 AM
I started watching and just hated the way they both talked
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2024, 05:47:43 PM
i’m looking for a potent, high powered, offense.  unfortunately, that always seems like it’s a year away under Coach Ham & Potatoes face.

every year we seem to be missing whatever key component.  it’s some pretty lame crap.
that son of a bitch matt wells delivered that potent offense this week!
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 28, 2024, 06:04:05 PM
i’m looking for a potent, high powered, offense.  unfortunately, that always seems like it’s a year away under Coach Ham & Potatoes face.

every year we seem to be missing whatever key component.  it’s some pretty lame crap.
that son of a bitch matt wells delivered that potent offense this week!
Confirmed offensive genius
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: DQ12 on September 29, 2024, 10:13:08 PM
Always loved Matt Wells
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2024, 10:13:40 PM
His jaw line is impeccable
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: KST8FAN on February 17, 2025, 09:19:45 AM
https://admin.kstatesports.com/news/2025/2/17/football-k-state-hires-luke-wells-to-coach-tight-ends


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Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2025, 10:26:55 AM
https://admin.kstatesports.com/news/2025/2/17/football-k-state-hires-luke-wells-to-coach-tight-ends


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Goddammit
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Skipper44 on February 17, 2025, 10:42:34 AM
fraternal nepo >>> paternal nepo
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2025, 10:52:08 AM
the family farm is back, baybee!
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: ChiComCat on February 17, 2025, 10:55:56 AM
I typically wouldn't care but it's a pretty important position coach for how we play, not to mention with Cure coming in.  That gets me to slightly annoyed and I'll be downright agitated if the TEs start slow.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2025, 12:19:40 PM
Clams was right again, potato face took the path of least resistance.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 17, 2025, 04:12:40 PM
Hybrid Fargo supper club


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Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: bananaeater on February 17, 2025, 06:00:36 PM
So do we not like him or what? 
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2025, 06:07:17 PM
It's a lazy nepo hire but it's the TE coach so it's not the end of the world.  I predict I'll forget who even coaches the TE's by September.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Kid In the Hall on February 17, 2025, 06:14:52 PM
Could have been worse (Klieman's kid)
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: schreds21 on February 17, 2025, 07:44:22 PM
Isn't he still playing at KW?
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2025, 07:51:23 PM
Wrong kid
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Trim on February 18, 2025, 09:46:08 AM
Quote
D. Scott Fritchen: When did you find out you were named K-State offensive coordinator? Where were you and what were you doing at the time?

Matt Wells: I remember exactly where I was. I was in San Clemente at a place there, and Jen and I were out there hanging out for five days. Coach gave us a few days after signing day, which we didn’t sign anybody, and I was in California. Funny, I was in the same place where I was when I received the phone call from Coach about the finality of joining K-State last January.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Trim on February 18, 2025, 09:47:02 AM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2025/2/18/sports-extra-fun-challenging-and-rewarding
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 18, 2025, 01:14:44 PM
The thing that pisses me off is that even if Riley had left for Dallas in late December, I think we still would have made this lackluster hire.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: meow meow on February 18, 2025, 03:01:08 PM
#family #family #family
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Kid In the Hall on February 18, 2025, 07:37:41 PM
Could have been worse part 2: Courtney Messingham is a TE coach by trade...
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Winters on February 18, 2025, 07:52:31 PM
The thing that pisses me off is that even if Riley had left for Dallas in late December, I think we still would have made this lackluster hire.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on February 18, 2025, 10:48:18 PM
Could have been worse (Klieman's kid)

Ignoring Devin is a defensive coach, would that have been worse though? Devin has been coaching college football and just won a national championship and Luke has spent the last two years working for Cintas. That being said, I don't care, even a little bit, about this hire.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: tdaver on February 19, 2025, 12:37:03 AM
Could have been worse part 2: Courtney Messingham is a TE coach by trade...

Not far off.  He was on ISU staff with Mess.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: Kid In the Hall on February 19, 2025, 11:02:26 AM
Could have been worse (Klieman's kid)

Ignoring Devin is a defensive coach, would that have been worse though? Devin has been coaching college football and just won a national championship and Luke has spent the last two years working for Cintas. That being said, I don't care, even a little bit, about this hire.

I certainly can't speak to his coaching abilities, but, if nothing else, you'd like to think Wells brings something in the recruiting game given his stops around the country (Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, etc.) whereas Klieman 2.0 has only been at NDSU and KSU. Probably also good to say to be able to say to Cure (and Premer) that the new TE coach has coached TEs (and offense) before (even if he sucks at it - no idea).
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2025, 11:24:41 AM
Are we gonna Dimel this offense to the TEs?  It's a sweet gig for the Well kid.  He gets to inherit one of the top TE rooms and recruits in the country. 

I get to see if I can make every post about him sound like he's a kid who fell down a well.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: MakeItRain on February 19, 2025, 01:35:38 PM
Are we gonna Dimel this offense to the TEs?  It's a sweet gig for the Well kid.  He gets to inherit one of the top TE rooms and recruits in the country. 

I get to see if I can make every post about him sound like he's a kid who fell down a well.
Luke Wells is definitely not a kid, it's Matt's brother and he's in his mid 40s. I'll be interested to see how much we use the TEs this year considering we just landed the best recruit in school history and we're currently recruiting his comp for the next class.
Title: Re: Matt Wells
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2025, 01:37:43 PM
Are we gonna Dimel this offense to the TEs?  It's a sweet gig for the Well kid.  He gets to inherit one of the top TE rooms and recruits in the country. 

I get to see if I can make every post about him sound like he's a kid who fell down a well.
Luke Wells is definitely not a kid, it's Matt's brother and he's in his mid 40s. I'll be interested to see how much we use the TEs this year considering we just landed the best recruit in school history and we're currently recruiting his comp for the next class.

Ahh, I was thinking it was his son.