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Title: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: Pete on February 05, 2024, 10:58:26 PM
Obviously head to head, Tang has settled it on the court and is the better coach. However, there are likely other things to consider.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: wetwillie on February 05, 2024, 10:59:16 PM
Yes, I think he might be
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: star seed 7 on February 05, 2024, 10:59:30 PM
The results speak for themselves
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2024, 11:09:53 PM
Imagine how much we'd have beaten them by with Tomlin and Glover.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: Pete on February 05, 2024, 11:14:09 PM
Imagine how much we'd have beaten them by with Tomlin and Glover.
Would have been a snoozer.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 05, 2024, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: nicname link=topic=441o61.msg2260390#msg2260390 date=1707196 to193
Imagine how much we'd have beaten them by with Tomlin and Glover.
To be fair, they were forced to throw the (alleged) rapist off the team.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 05, 2024, 11:21:54 PM
Give them 5 minutes of basketball to find out.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 05, 2024, 11:25:39 PM
I know it’s nary impossible to prove a negative, but I’m reasonably sure that Tang has never stepped out on his marriage
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 05, 2024, 11:33:32 PM
I know it’s nary impossible to prove a negative, but I’m reasonably sure that Tang has never stepped out on his marriage
There's no question he's a better more ethical person.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: Pete on February 06, 2024, 07:47:10 AM
After the Adidas ruling, Self made some proclamation about how they are really going to to go after it now. It really makes one wonder whether the only thing that separated Bill Self from his peers in prior seasons was his access to boosters and corporations who were willing to cheat at a higher level.

Now that the field has been leveled just a tiny bit, he can't seem to do as well.  Again, obviously when it comes to head to head competition on the basketball court Tang is the superior coach, that's indisputable.  However, I suspect that we may see other coaches do the same.  So, let's enjoy this while it lasts, because there is probably going to be a long line of other coaches who claim a winning record head-to-head against Bill Self going forward!
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: ben ji on February 06, 2024, 08:04:07 AM
After the Adidas ruling, Self made some proclamation about how they are really going to to go after it now. It really makes one wonder whether the only thing that separated Bill Self from his peers in prior seasons was his access to boosters and corporations who were willing to cheat at a higher level.

Now that the field has been leveled just a tiny bit, he can't seem to do as well.  Again, obviously when it comes to head to head competition on the basketball court Tang is the superior coach, that's indisputable.  However, I suspect that we may see other coaches do the same.  So, let's enjoy this while it lasts, because there is probably going to be a long line of other coaches who claim a winning record head-to-head against Bill Self going forward!

Why is Townsend still on the coaching staff? He's been the bagman his entire career but now everyone can be a bagman.

Would suck to spend 30 years mastering the craft, rising to the top of your profession just to be obsolete overnight.
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: Pete on February 06, 2024, 08:07:56 AM
After the Adidas ruling, Self made some proclamation about how they are really going to to go after it now. It really makes one wonder whether the only thing that separated Bill Self from his peers in prior seasons was his access to boosters and corporations who were willing to cheat at a higher level.

Now that the field has been leveled just a tiny bit, he can't seem to do as well.  Again, obviously when it comes to head to head competition on the basketball court Tang is the superior coach, that's indisputable.  However, I suspect that we may see other coaches do the same.  So, let's enjoy this while it lasts, because there is probably going to be a long line of other coaches who claim a winning record head-to-head against Bill Self going forward!

Why is Townsend still on the coaching staff? He's been the bagman his entire career but now everyone can be a bagman.

Would suck to spend 30 years mastering the craft, rising to the top of your profession just to be obsolete overnight.

That's a really good point.  Remember how the State capital in Topeka kept that one old time elevator that had a paid attendant who had to operate it? 
Title: Re: Is Tang a better coach than Bill Self?
Post by: CNS on February 06, 2024, 09:41:05 AM
After the Adidas ruling, Self made some proclamation about how they are really going to to go after it now. It really makes one wonder whether the only thing that separated Bill Self from his peers in prior seasons was his access to boosters and corporations who were willing to cheat at a higher level.

Now that the field has been leveled just a tiny bit, he can't seem to do as well.  Again, obviously when it comes to head to head competition on the basketball court Tang is the superior coach, that's indisputable.  However, I suspect that we may see other coaches do the same.  So, let's enjoy this while it lasts, because there is probably going to be a long line of other coaches who claim a winning record head-to-head against Bill Self going forward!

Yep.  Had that Adidas stank hanging over them for a year. All of a sudden, he has a hard time getting his starting five and has nothing left on the bench. what could be the cause?