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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2023, 04:51:10 PM
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So this is based solely on who you do and don't like.
1.elite group
THE Kansas State University
2.if they aren't playing the cats
University of Kansas
CU
Utes
3.ok I guess
Au
Osu
Isu
Tcu
Cincy?
Asu
4.gross
Tt
4b.gross gross
Byu
5.gross gross gross
Baylor
6.literally forget they are even in the conference
Directional Florida
Houston
Also WVU apparently
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Need to move BYU down to gross gross.
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1. elite group
KSU
2. if they aren't playing the cats
CU
OSU
TTech
KU
3. ok I guess
AU
ASU
ISU
TCU
Cincy
UCF
WVU
Houston
Utes
4. gross
BYU
5. Baylor Tier
Baylor
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S:
Kansas State
A:
Kansas
Colorado
B:
Oklahoma St
TCU
Arizona
C:
Iowa State
Texas Tech
Utah
Arizona St
D:
West Virginia
UCF
Cincinnati
Houston
F:
BYU
Baylor
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I mean you take S through C there and that's a great conference.
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Everyone has to take a few turds unfortunately
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I'm glad we are alive and still get to play big boy football but eff me this conference is complete trash from a likability standpoint. I can't even get to a 4th team that is remotely worth liking.
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when you factor in everything - town, football upside, hoops upside, brand and fanbase - this is what i come up with:
TIER I - oklahoma state, arizona, kansas state, kansas
TIER II - baylor, tcu, texas tech, utah
TIER III - arizona state, west virginia, colorado
TIER IV - byu, houston, cincinnati
WASHINGTON ST OF MIDWEST TIER - iowa state
FICTIONAL SCHOOL TIER - ucf
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I'm glad we are alive and still get to play big boy football but eff me this conference is complete trash from a likability standpoint. I can't even get to a 4th team that is remotely worth liking.
If you can get to 3, you're doing pretty good, honestly.
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when you factor in everything - town, football upside, hoops upside, brand and fanbase - this is what i come up with:
TIER I - oklahoma state, arizona, kansas state, kansas
TIER II - baylor, tcu, texas tech, utah
TIER III - arizona state, west virginia, colorado
TIER IV - byu, houston, cincinnati
WASHINGTON ST OF MIDWEST TIER - iowa state
FICTIONAL SCHOOL TIER - ucf
Pretty much.
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So this is based solely on who you do and don't like.
1.elite group
THE Kansas State University
2.if they aren't playing the cats
University of Kansas
CU
Utes
3.ok I guess
Au
Osu
Isu
Tcu
Cincy?
Asu
4.gross
Tt
4b.gross gross
Byu
5.gross gross gross
Baylor
6.literally forget they are even in the conference
Directional Florida
Houston
Also WVU apparently
kinda a combo how much i like them/how interested i am in watching them play (which changes a bit fball to bball, this is both but leans fball):
kstate
uu
ku
isu
cu
osu
ua
byu
tech
baylor
tcu
houston
asu
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So this is based solely on who you do and don't like.
1.elite group
THE Kansas State University
2.if they aren't playing the cats
University of Kansas
CU
Utes
3.ok I guess
Au
Osu
Isu
Tcu
Cincy?
Asu
4.gross
Tt
4b.gross gross
Byu
5.gross gross gross
Baylor
6.literally forget they are even in the conference
Directional Florida
Houston
Also WVU apparently
kinda a combo how much i like them/how interested i am in watching them play (which changes a bit fball to bball, this is both but leans fball):
kstate
uu
ku
isu
cu
osu
ua
byu
tech
baylor
tcu
houston
asu
Aptly put for ucf
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Baylor is a lot lower on that list than I anticipated from sys
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I don’t like the UCF add. It’s crap.
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I like UCF because they have a huge enrollment and have had success without money. They have a ceiling somewhere around FSU, and we aren't getting FSU. Got to look at upside in our position.
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I like UCF because they have a huge enrollment and have had success without money. They have a ceiling somewhere around FSU, and we aren't getting FSU. Got to look at upside in our position.
Can we build around them? Should we?
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I like the idea of games in Orlando. Direct flights from Hobby and stay on Space Coast. Fly into MCO after work on Thursday. Beach on Friday. Watch game. Head back to the beach for a few more days.
Some of you Disney enjoyers can do your thing too.
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I've been on the field for games in many stadiums, but only twice have I been on the field when college fans threw crap. Once was Texas Tech, which actually threw crap at K-State media people as they were standing outside of the tunnel waiting to go in for the postgame stuff - that was after a Tech win.
The other was a K-State beatdown of Colorado and the Buffs fans threw crap at their own effing players. I literally saw one CU player get hit in the head with a hot dog and another - who thankfully was wearing a helmet - got pelted with a battery.
CU = THE WORST.
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I now demand to know asap how football scheduling and conference championship games will work. They have been planning these acquisitions for months and have plenty of time to think this through.
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I now demand to know asap how football scheduling and conference championship games will work. They have been planning these acquisitions for months and have plenty of time to think this through.
I second this, Pete.
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I'm glad we are alive and still get to play big boy football but eff me this conference is complete trash from a likability standpoint. I can't even get to a 4th team that is remotely worth liking.
If you can get to 3, you're doing pretty good, honestly.
Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like? Everyone is putting KU, Colorado, and teams we don't play at the top of these supposed likeability ratings. I'm guessing after KU beats us a couple of times they won't be so likeable. It's amazing the difference in Iowa State's likeability before and after November 24, 2018.
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Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like?
The way all fans have gotten during realignment makes it hard to mock rednecks for sec-sec-sec.
We don't get to form a gang with the teams in our conference and go fight the other conferences/gangs.
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I like UCF because they have a huge enrollment and have had success without money. They have a ceiling somewhere around FSU, and we aren't getting FSU. Got to look at upside in our position.
It’s ironic that people are making fun of them bc they probably have the lowest acceptance rate of any school in the big 12 by a wide margin
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Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like?
The way all fans have gotten during realignment makes it hard to mock rednecks for sec-sec-sec.
We don't get to form a gang with the teams in our conference and go fight the other conferences/gangs.
That's the thing, they have their stupid ass SEC SEC crap but could you imagine a SEC fan base outside of Vanderbilt talking about the likeability of the other bubbas? They routinely commit crimes against each other in the name of sports fandom. Their conference is the most fun because they're fanatical about how much they hate each other.
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I like UCF because they have a huge enrollment and have had success without money. They have a ceiling somewhere around FSU, and we aren't getting FSU. Got to look at upside in our position.
It’s ironic that people are making fun of them bc they probably have the lowest acceptance rate of any school in the big 12 by a wide margin
I thought that was a joke, but damn - they're down around 35% acceptance. Definitely the lowest in the league - and by a wide margin. And, not too far behind Florida and Florida State.
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Doing word association instead to inform myself if I like any of them.
baylor: waco
byu: weird
ucf: geographically correct
cincy: huggins
houston: minor-league
isu: suicide
ku: squawks
ksu: gE
osu: racists
tcu: suburb
tech: juggalos
wvu: coonskin
arizona: sand
asu: sand
colorado: piss
utah: redskins?
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Elite: Arizona State, Kansas State.
'Eff 'em: Everyone else.
I give you your new Big XII overlords president Michael Crow & athletic director Ray Anderson (honestly I suspect this is a deepfake but watch out for Crow wanting to drag the Big XII into the 23rd century ....):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnpneBH75ww
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Has anyone visited the boards of our new wannabe peers to invite them to GE? I never took the trouble with Cincy, Micky Mouse and Houston because I thought we could do so much better.
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I believe we may be the last actually active message board in existence
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The whole reason the PAC died is that their fan bases dgaf about sports. I doubt they have a thriving message board.
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Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like?
The way all fans have gotten during realignment makes it hard to mock rednecks for sec-sec-sec.
We don't get to form a gang with the teams in our conference and go fight the other conferences/gangs.
We'd murder those big 10 nerds
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Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like?
The way all fans have gotten during realignment makes it hard to mock rednecks for sec-sec-sec.
We don't get to form a gang with the teams in our conference and go fight the other conferences/gangs.
That's the thing, they have their stupid ass SEC SEC crap but could you imagine a SEC fan base outside of Vanderbilt talking about the likeability of the other bubbas? They routinely commit crimes against each other in the name of sports fandom. Their conference is the most fun because they're fanatical about how much they hate each other.
Yeah, I in no way ever want ksu in the sec. No thanks, keep your money.
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(would accept a big 10 invite if we could bring the squawks)
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The real question is what are the Aggie nicknames for all the new editions. I feel like I just settled on the first 4
BYU = MountainMeadowsAggie
Central Florida = MouseAggie
Houston = CommuterAggie
Cincinnati = SpaghettiAggie
Colorado already has their Aggie name from before but what are the others?
Colorado = WeedAggie (duh)
Utah = TruckstopAggie?
Arizona = CactusAggie? Maybe DesertAggie? (Not to be confused with Tech's SandAggie
Arizona State = PartyAggie? SunAggie?
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Anything BYU that isn't about sister wives or gold tablets or something is out
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Garmentaggie
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Soak aggie
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Soak aggie
This makes them sound cool though
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NewCultAggoe
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ZeroStimulantAggie
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ZeroStimulantAggie
DietCokeAggie
(They chug the crap out of diet coke)
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I think Felix Rex used to be a Mormon whisperer, not sure if he's around or not anymore
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ZeroStimulantAggie
DietCokeAggie
(They chug the crap out of diet coke)
This seems perfect
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The real question is what are the Aggie nicknames for all the new editions. I feel like I just settled on the first 4
BYU = MountainMeadowsAggie
Central Florida = MouseAggie
Houston = CommuterAggie
Cincinnati = SpaghettiAggie
Colorado already has their Aggie name from before but what are the others?
Colorado = WeedAggie (duh)
Utah = TruckstopAggie?
Arizona = CactusAggie? Maybe DesertAggie? (Not to be confused with Tech's SandAggie
Arizona State = PartyAggie? SunAggie?
TruckstopAggie for spite is perfect
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SeveralMonthsShyof15Aggie
PropertyoftheCorporationofthePresidingBishopoftheChurchofJesusChristofLatter-DaySaintsAggie
PolicyNotDoctrineAggie
BloodAtonementAggie
SecondAnointingAggie
Mormons=VictoryforSatanAggie
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what, no MagicUnderwearAggie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment)?
kono
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Polyaggiemy
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Lamesauce from the top ropes!
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MormonAggie
Ex-MormonAggie
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The real question is what are the Aggie nicknames for all the new editions. I feel like I just settled on the first 4
Arizona State = PartyAggie? SunAggie?
Do not feel good about this - it gives them too much credit. These guys were key players in killing the PAC (by stupidity, not by actual intent - that video of Crow in this thread says it all). I am sad SandAggie is taken. GlassAggie, maybe (molten sand and/or meth - but still sounds too cool). BurnAggie?
Most of the others listed in this thread are solid. And yes, Truck Stop Aggie is great to spite Utah.
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SunAggie for ASU, SandAggie Zona, TruckStopAggie Utah
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Asu is satfetyschoolaggie
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Going to be some great roadies.
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Now that CU is back, I can admit I'm face down ass up for the Buffs and Boulder.
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SunAggie for ASU, SandAggie Zona, TruckStopAggie Utah
Tech has been SandAggie for like 15 years and there is no way we are letting a new Aggie steal anything from the hateful8
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Asu is satfetyschoolaggie
yeah that's great. although I think calling them a safety school makes them seem better than they actually are lol
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That's 2023 AAU inductee ASU you are talkin bout
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Polyaggiemy
Outstanding
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I'm glad we are alive and still get to play big boy football but eff me this conference is complete trash from a likability standpoint. I can't even get to a 4th team that is remotely worth liking.
If you can get to 3, you're doing pretty good, honestly.
Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like? Everyone is putting KU, Colorado, and teams we don't play at the top of these supposed likeability ratings. I'm guessing after KU beats us a couple of times they won't be so likeable. It's amazing the difference in Iowa State's likeability before and after November 24, 2018.
I get your point but the hateful 8 have been through so many near death experiences together that it's hard to hate on them any more. Except KU of course.
I think hating on Utah and Arizona state is gonna be easy though.
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bikeaggies
weedaggies
gonewildaggies
skinwalkeraggies
dryheataggies
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bikeaggies
weedaggies
gonewildaggies
skinwalkeraggies
dryheataggies
Very good stuff
Back to ranking schools (original part of this thread) I am torn between distaste for schools (is that the basis) or potential for good games/decent programs.
1) KSU
2) OSU
3) TTU
4)ISU (solid sports, but yeech--too much mold)
5) TCU (moving up on the list, but not enough fans and too many choads)
6) UCF (the Bounce House gives me hope for some great games and atmosphere making them watchable)
7) Utah (somebody to hate already, but solid football)
8) Houston (fun hoops)
9) WVU
10) Cinci
11) UofA
12) BYU (not a lot to offer, but should get better - and they piss of Utah fans)
13) Baylor (too much rape and murder)
14) CU (some decent history in football, but fans are atrocious and I doubt they will ever try to actually win except at cross country)
15) KU (live too close to Lawrence)
16) ASU
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Number 1?
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utah is trash
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Since this is based solely on who I do and do not like...
1. KSU
2. OSU
3. ISU
4. WVU
5. TTU
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Everyone else on any given day
12.
13.
14.
15. Baylor
16. KU
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Asu is satfetyschoolaggie
this
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1. 1996-2011
2. 2024-
3. 2012-2023
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1. 1996-2011
2. 2024-
3. 2012-2023
good
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Man, I dunno. RR and 2xRR was really fun.
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1. 1996-2011
2. 2024-
3. 2012-2023
good
It's really the only good answer.
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What makes 2024- better than 2012-2023
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What makes 2024- better than 2012-2023
All the national championships
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:Woohoo:
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What makes 2024- better than 2012-2023
The embarrassment of AAU riches in the conference
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What makes 2024- better than 2012-2023
having the best athletic program in the conference
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What makes 2024- better than 2012-2023
No Texas or Blow-U and instead a conference of like minded, like sized schools all giving the finger to everyone else in the nation with us sitting on top of the pile.
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Gonna rank by how much I like to have them in the conference. It's not an order of how much I like them per se, but how much I'd miss football games against them if they left and how excited for future games i am with them. Really, I guess, it's how emotionally invested i am in THEIR season. Whether I root against them or kind of root for them. A measure of my emotional amplitude.
KSU
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KU -- Fun rival. Lot of water cooler talk. It's what college sports are for, baby!
ISU -- Same as KU but the dial on everything is turned down by like 70 percent.
OSU -- Lot of history. Neat stadium. I'm a sucker for Gundy, who is, weirdly, now *the* elder statesman of the Big 12.
Baylor -- We're at a point now where I don't have a memory of Baylor not being in the Big 12. I don't really hate them like a lot of people do. Partly because I always kind of liked Briles before that crap hit the fan. No real animosity for 2012. I like that K-State plays Baylor.
Texas Christian -- We've had some fun games against them. I liked Gpatty a lot. I don't really care for Sonny Dykes. I hope they lose more than I hope CU stinks.
Colorado -- Bunch of history. Fun team to root against, but kind of forgot. Feeling any strong emotions about this program will take some effort.
Tech -- Probably the school from the OG Big 12 i'm the most ambivalent about. They're just so far away. They've been pretty mediocre since forever. I've never been to Lubbock. They're supposedly going to be good at football someday. Maybe this year?
Utah -- What can you say? They're a good football program with a good fanbase.
BYU -- I don't really have anything against BYU. Good football program. Cotton bowl still makes me mad!! Not really.
Central Florida -- I've kind of been a bandwagon fan since their ascent. I bought a National Championship shirt as kind of a joke, but I do think they got a raw deal out of all that. You win all your games, you bet a team that's pretty darn good in a bowl game, you can call yourself a national champ as far as I care.
WVU -- Neal Brown stinks. Horsewomen was more interesting.
Arizona State -- They've been a circus recently. Don't really care.
Cincy -- Zero interest, one way or the other. They lost the coach that made them good.
Arizona -- Zero interest, one way or the other. Seems far away and uninteresting.
Houston -- Zero interest, one way or the other. They will take a long time to not be a G5 team in my brain.
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Not bad, my ranks for my feelings on them, not necessarily program
1. KU, obv, it's fun in-state, they are turning it around, and my general "hate" I had for ku wains as one gets older, it's not worth being angry, even if I don't want their bball fans to be happy, I can handle it.
2. ISU also, their fans are genuinely more annoying as a fanbase, but genuinely nice in person.
3. OSU, probably the most prestigious consistent program left of the OG 8. No hate, and usually fun games with them
4. TT, also no real hate, they had the pirate (RIP), gave the world Mahomes and they are never really good, nor terrible, just off in the hinterlands
5. TCU, ultimately good they are in the conference, and good they are currently the team to win a CFP game (vs OU/Tex). Sucks obv about champ game. Was fairly salty last year about all the QBs they injured but over that, for now.
6. Utah, glad we have them, kinda crappy online crap but that's w/e. They win a lot and have the trophy's to prove it. I hope they can keep that up (except against us) and keep the banner of a good football conference going.
7. Colorado, happy they are back, don't really care for Dion, and not too salty about them being gone but hope they don't keep being flakes.
8. Central Florida, I think the school that will benefit the most about going to P5. They will prove to be a valuable asset going forward, but like Utah hopefully not at our expense in like a champ game if we play them.
9. Cincy, I think ultimately will also benefit from the jump up, and will I think in due time get their footing and will be a valuable asset. Has played in the CFP so that's good for the conference too.
10. WVU. Beginning of the two ambivalents. No hate, also not a lot of care. Has always seemed to stick out to me in the conference, but having some buddies out east I think will make them feel better.
11. Zona. Great for basketball, w/e for football. Not going to hate nor make waves one way or the other
12. Baylor, first of the dislikes. Still not happy about 2012, but gave us Tang. They are good at basketball, but their entire football/athletic culture is underpinned by scandal. Wish they weren't so icky.
13. BYU, I think our biggest now prima donnas despite Mormons not really being that bad. Just makes our conference feel like we have to change it's character I think to suit them and I don't care for that.
14. Houston, probably cause I hate the city and I don't want more Texas stuff, football will help us I think ultimately but I just don't care and Houston the city is gross. Props for more cats though.
15. Arizona State. They just seem gross, don't seem to really wanna be here. Giant party/large school overall but feels just as commuter school as UCF but not going to help us that much football.
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Asu is satfetyschoolaggie
yeah that's great. although I think calling them a safety school makes them seem better than they actually are lol
Ask us about our ~90 Top 25 academic programs! (Just don't ask us if there are really 24 more degree programs in Saudi Intersectional Lesbian Feminist Medieval Literature out there competing with us.)
Sincerely, Doctor Michael Crow (I'm Ivy League! No, not my degrees but I was once an adjunct at Columbia pulling down a cool $1500/semester and don't you ever forget it!)
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Asu is satfetyschoolaggie
yeah that's great. although I think calling them a safety school makes them seem better than they actually are lol
Ask us about our ~90 Top 25 academic programs! (Just don't ask us if there are really 24 more degree programs in Saudi Intersectional Lesbian Feminist Medieval Literature out there competing with us.)
Sincerely, Doctor Michael Crow (I'm Ivy League! No, not my degrees but I was once an adjunct at Columbia pulling down a cool $1500/semester and don't you ever forget it!)
Every day I learn something new about this guy. And every day I like him less.
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I'll play along. I copied some.
1. KU, Because in state rivals are always fun, especially when you've only lost like 4 games to them in your entire lifetime, and they exhibit zero amounts of humility.
2. ISU Their fans are genuinely more annoying as a fanbase, but genuinely nice in person.
3. OSU pretty much identical to us, only in Oklahoma. Did you know Gary Busey went there?
4. TT also no real hate, they had the pirate (RIP), gave the world Mahomes and they are never really good, nor terrible. Plus the ladies in Lubbock are easy.
5. Colorado Hahaha welcome back losers.
6. Utah Solid addition in my opinion and will fit in nicely.
7. TCU, they were in the right place at the right time, but have been able to pull their own weight.
8. Cincy, Beginning of the four ambivalent schools. I think ultimately will also benefit from the jump up, and will I think in due time get their footing and will be a valuable asset. Has played in the CFP so that's good for the conference too.
9. WVU. No hate, also not a lot of care. Morgantown is fun though.
10. Zona. Great for basketball, w/e for football.
11. Central Florida, I think the school that will benefit the most about going to P5. I'll have to see if they were a worthwhile addition to the conference.
12. BYU About to discover things are much more difficult than the WAC or Mountain West.
13. Arizona State. They just seem gross, don't seem to really wanna be here. Giant party/large school overall but feels just as commuter school as UCF but not going to help us that much football.
14. Houston, probably cause the city is dirty and we've got enough Texas stuff already. This was more of a numbers game and I don't think they bring much.
16. Baylor They don't belong in a Power-anything conference. They scammed their way into the original Big XII, they've raped, murdered, and cheated their way through the years, and it finally payed off for them. They are the dirtiest athletic department in the conference and bring nothing of worth to any of the other members. eff these guys.
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After the first week time to overreact and tier these teams
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
Oklahoma
K-State
A tier (still good and could be there)
Texas
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
UCF
Cincy
KU
TCU (even with the loss, left a lot of points out there)
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
Okie State worse
West Virginia better
Iowa State better
Texas Tech worse
D tier (going to be a long season)
BYU
Houston
F tier (complete ass)
Baylor
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I'd move UCF up next to Texas. Probably move OSU down.
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I'd move UCF up next to Texas. Probably move OSU down.
I didn’t watch UCF, were they pretty good?
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I'd move UCF up next to Texas. Probably move OSU down.
I didn’t watch UCF, were they pretty good?
Not sure how bad Kent State is, but after watching Baylor, OSU, and Tech, the 50 point win seems pretty good.
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Just from an interest perspective all of the western teams are intriguing to me for various reasons. I have a hard time thinking much about the eastern additions. Maybe that will change in time. Dunno. Just feels like BYU and the 4 corners “feel” B12. Kind of Houston too, but not as much.
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I think that's probably also cause those schools are coming from P5 or were independent. It's hard for me to source UCF and Cincy into my brain about them being in the Big12. Houston being in Texas just feels like it was a when not if scenario.
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I feel pretty confident, looking at the schedule.
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As of right now UCF and @Texas are the potentially most difficult games. Based entirely on watching one week of football.
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This game against Troy might be the third toughest. Easiest schedule we have had in a very long time.
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I am not sure UCF will be a challenge. They played a perennial bottom-feeder and I was not really impressed.
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This game against Troy might be the third toughest. Easiest schedule we have had in a very long time.
oh no
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I'd move UCF up next to Texas. Probably move OSU down.
I didn’t watch UCF, were they pretty good?
We'll find out in a couple of weeks.
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After week two overactions. Baylor and TT wins could've made this a banner weekend for the Big 12.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
Tejas (beating Bama at Bama is an accomplishment no matter what, even if Bama is probably going to lose a game or two more)
K-State (no change, we still look solid despite the second quarter scary)
A tier (still good and could be there)
OU (SMU isn't shitty, but that seemed pedestrian by OU)
Cincy (they get a nod as beating Pitt on the road is a solid accomplishment, and I think they've proven to me that while they probably won't go to Jerry world, they will probably win 8-9 games)
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
UCF (I'd bump them up, but a last second win at Boise St is a lil concerning TBH for them)
KU (They did a good job vs Illinois, but kinda let them back in, they're definitely solid though)
TCU (decent bounce back, but lil worried for them)
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
Okie State (win on the road is solid, but it's Arizona St, not a believer)
West Virginia (holding pat, they are the definition of "ok")
Iowa State (had a decent comeback vs Iowa, they are weirdly an ok team to me)
Texas Tech (despite being 0-2, that was solid performance, the wins will start coming)
BYU (maybe not as bad as I thought, but they need to prove they are to stay in C tier)
D tier (going to be a long season)
Baylor (what moving up with a loss? yes, Utah is decent and Baylor let it go, but they aren't ass)
F tier (complete ass)
Houston (lol, even with the comeback, you shouldn't need to come back vs Rice, to only lose in OT)
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I agree that OU doesn’t belong in the A group yet.
Regarding OU vs SMU
“We got beat 28-11, give them credit, but I think we all know the game is a lot closer than that," SMU coach Rhett Lashlee said. "Give them credit. In the last 12 minutes, they beat us 14 to nothing. So they deserved that part. But for three and a half quarters, it was pretty much evenly matched.”
https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap/_/gameId/401525830
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UCF is interesting to me. They deserve a lot of credit winning on the road at a decent program, two time zones away, at 2000 feet more elevation, on weird blue turf.
BUT, they couldn’t score many points, and just the week before Washington crushed Boise.
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I know Illinois is ass but KU should probably get equal credit as Cincinnati
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i think ucf is pretty good, like 20-25 good
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I know Illinois is ass but KU should probably get equal credit as Cincinnati
Road vs home is my difference in my mind. Like same reason I was going to bump up UCF had that been less of a nail bitter for them. Like ku could rise if they whip up on @ Nevada, but it has to be a whippin since Nevada is complete ass, way worse that Illinois is. If Nevada keeps it closer than they did against Idaho it's hard for me to raise ku to A tier, yet. Plus I think Pitt is better than Illinois.
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Week 3 overreactions. Cats first loss has them slip. Overall a pretty mixed week for the Big 12
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
Tejas, the forerunner, Wyoming wasn't great but still 3-0 is 3-0
OU, Tulsa sucks but that was an ass whipping and they get the nod
A tier (still good and could be there)
K-State, didn't do enough for the win despite a lot of chances. Going to need to pick it up especially with UCF coming
KU, Nevada is garbage but a win on the road and 3-0 gets them the bump
UCF, 3-0 and now we'll see how they do against easily their hardest game to date.
BYU, huge movers with the win of the week at Arkansas and are 3-0, proving me wrong
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
Cincy, maybe their wtf game? Still losing to Miami Ohio is pretty bleh
TCU, it's still a conference win, but Houston. No change for now.
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
West Virginia, solid win in a rivalry game. Definitely on watch to rise.
Texas Tech, it's Tarleton, so not going up. But maybe more wins to come?
D tier (going to be a long season)
Baylor, still solidly sucky but not ass
Iowa State, maybe they deserve ass, but it was on the road and only by 3, that is reserved for some other school
F tier (complete ass)
Houston, keep dat ass going
Oklahoma State, wow. It's one thing to lose to a lesser school. That's bad. It's another to completely be demolished by them, at home no less. Probably time for the mullet to hang it up.
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Week 4 overreactions. Big 12 play underway
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
Tejas, no movement, still the pace car, their ultimate kryptonite is on deck (KU)
OU, Cincy ain't great, but a 2 TD win is a 2 TD win, I do expect a few loses for them eventually
A tier (still good and could be there)
K-State, was not so great at times, and then really great in other, a complete game needs to happen at some point
KU, solid win vs a solid team, now Tejas is on deck.
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
TCU, no movement up yet, but a solid win vs SMU, another win they are A tier (or if WV wins they make A tier)
UCF, a decent performance, but just don't have the depth/defense to compete in the league I feel
BYU, too many mistakes to allow them to win, but they will win plenty
West Virginia, welcome to the B tier, and Neal is making that seat not warm at all. Only loss to good Penn State team and they did ok in that? Good for them
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
Cincy, don't have the horses for this yet
Iowa State, win and you're up, even if Okie State is ass.
D tier (going to be a long season)
Texas Tech, I have to drop them, 1-3 is unacceptable for a "dark horse" team. Very disappointing, another loss they are ass, especially if that loss is to Houston
F tier (complete ass)
Baylor, I get Tejas is good, but they are ass
Houston, keep dat ass going, at least they are champions of an ass city (Houston)
Oklahoma State, keep dat ass going, ISU ain't great, but Okie State is ass
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Maybe I'm just not gE enough and I'm doing it wrong but don't you want your conference to be filled with a bunch of teams you don't like?
The way all fans have gotten during realignment makes it hard to mock rednecks for sec-sec-sec.
We don't get to form a gang with the teams in our conference and go fight the other conferences/gangs.
I hate all teams in our conference that aren't the KSU Cats. In the words of Robert Muldoon "They should all be destroyed"
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That tech game was one of the hardest games left on WVU's schedule. If I were a fan I'd be pissed, it's really obvious they aren't going anywhere but he's going to squeeze a bowl game out of this team. It's post Jake Waters LHC Bill Snyder.
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That tech game was one of the hardest games left on WVU's schedule. If I were a fan I'd be pissed, it's really obvious they aren't going anywhere but he's going to squeeze a bowl game out of this team. It's post Jake Waters LHC Bill Snyder.
Yeah, they probably go 4-4 down the stretch to finish 7-5.
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That Mizzou game left such a bad taste in my mouth that it’s going to take probably 4 more wins in a row to cleanse my palate. Luckily, we will probably get them.
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That Mizzou game left such a bad taste in my mouth that it’s going to take probably 4 more wins in a row to cleanse my palate. Luckily, we will probably get them.
Agree with this entire statement, being 4-0 would feel so different. Next 4 are very winnable
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That tech game was one of the hardest games left on WVU's schedule. If I were a fan I'd be pissed, it's really obvious they aren't going anywhere but he's going to squeeze a bowl game out of this team. It's post Jake Waters LHC Bill Snyder.
Bowl game or not, Neal Brown likely was going to retain his job after this year. His buyout is still $13m even after this season.
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
TCU, Baylor, TTU all have the resources and fan support to be contenders. Once OSU rids themselves of Gundy they can be solid again too.
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Ha ha eff TCU. They seem like a dirty team, they hurt a lot of players.
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
TCU, Baylor, TTU all have the resources and fan support to be contenders. Once OSU rids themselves of Gundy they can be solid again too.
Seems to me that Mike Gundy is the best thing not named Boone Pickens to happen to OSU football since the invention of the Apple IIe. Weird take. "Get rid of that one exceptionally successful head coach, you guys, and the sky's the limit!"
Maybe Gundy's spray tan or his politics annoy you. Get over it, and stop giving moustache aggie bad advice.
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Week 5 overreactions.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
Tejas, was interesting there for a bit, but they walked away with an easy win over blue wings
OU, was interesting also for a bit, but some pick 6s made it too easy
A tier (still good and could be there)
K-State, sleepycat.gif
West Virginia, holy crap, are they actually a decent team? Another solid win.
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
TCU, tough loss, but WVU is kinda legit
BYU, first Big 12 win, even if it's not really a big 12 win. But they're a solid team
KU, I get it, Texas is good, and really this is more cause they couldn't keep it close, tough loss.
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
No one this week
D tier (going to be a long season)
Texas Tech, a win, but Houston made that too interesting for too long, no movement yet
Baylor, you get a bump for that crazy comeback, but ass is there
Cincy, not a bad game, but still not looking great now
UCF, I mean, wow, how do you do that, biggest drop of the week
Iowa State, I still gotta bit of a soft spot I guess, not a good performance, they will have to keep themselves from F tier if not careful
F tier (complete ass)
Houston, keep dat ass going
Oklahoma State, keep dat ass going on bye week
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Sonny Dykes will run TCU into the ground if they don’t run him out of town quick.
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
I tend to agree, there really though isn't much to say why not us for the foreseeable future
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
What the hell has Colorado done to be included on that list? KU is a better program, by miles right now.
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You tell 'em, MIR!
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Aside from KSU, Utah and CU under Prime, this conference is poop. We should be in the ccg at least every other year.
What the hell has Colorado done to be included on that list? KU is a better program, by miles :D right now.
I think all the signs are there that the Primes will continue to rise until Deion moves on. Don’t think it will be more than 5 years total, but they will get dudes on dudes imo. KU and the PrimeBuffs are about equal rn iyam. I’m more sold on Prime/CU than Lance/KU.
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UCF is going to continue to stack talent. They have 9(!) 4 star recruits in the 2024 class.
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UCF is going to continue to stack talent. They have 9(!) 4 star recruits in the 2024 class.
For sure. Now that they're a P4 program, Florida talent will seriously consider their program over UF, Miami, and FSU.
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Let this season be a forebearer to the new PAC 4 next season. The 4 new teams have a total of 1 win so far, and the only win was when they played each other. The hateful 8 won't lay down. Also, I got this overwhelming feeling that neither Texas nor OU will be in the CCG.
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Let this season be a forebearer to the new PAC 4 next season. The 4 new teams have a total of 1 win so far, and the only win was when they played each other. The hateful 8 won't lay down. Also, I got this overwhelming feeling that neither Texas nor OU will be in the CCG.
Brah, our very own ksu cats are the only thing standing in the way of OUT flipping all of us the double bird otw out of here and leaving every new-new B12 team feeling like chumps.
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O/UT is coming after YOU. The 'cats are just standing in the way.
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They will get this, no doubt (may cats champs) the question is how many wins
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Week 6 overreactions.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
OU, big win, crazy game, best in the league rn
Tejas, no shame in a crazy game, but loss is a loss
A tier (still good and could be there)
West Virginia, sleepymountaineer.gif
KU, legit good, great win for them
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
BYU, sleepymormon.gif
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
K-State, horribly game, and yet still in it. But horrible game, going to have to figure it out vs a TT turning it around finally.
Texas Tech, a win, and Baylor is ass, but righting the ship
Iowa State, big win vs TCU, they got a shot of going bowling
TCU, if they aren't careful they will fall to d-tier. They just don't have it. But a ton of t-rex's is hard to overcome tbh.
D tier (going to be a long season)
Cincy, sleepybearcat.gif
Oklahoma State, big win, outplayed the cats, but will it stick?
F tier (complete ass)
Houston, keep dat ass going while sleepycougar.gif
Baylor, back to ass
UCF, what a fall, they are ass
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ucf belongs no lower than d tier
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Week 6 overreactions.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
OU, sleepydirtburglar.gif
Tejas, sleepybevo.gif
A tier (still good and could be there)
None this week
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
K-State, defense had some moments, but wow is Avery good. Hard to argue this team when the offense clicks. Turning around TCU next
KU, and the regression came, is OSU actual not that bad? Is ku good? They seem to fade in games. OU awaits
Iowa State, they are a decent team, no other way to say it. They should be bowling, maybe even 7 wins.
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
TCU, no movement, but a very impressive win.
OSU, turns out it did stick, and that was an impressive win.
WVU, had to fall a lot, it was Houston.
D tier (going to be a long season)
BYU, what an ass whooping, careful or they maybe ass
Houston, probably shouldn't get out of ass, but a win is a win and you get out the doghouse
Texas Tech, I get it was a freshman QB, but the other team had one too and that went from a close game to a laugher.
F tier (complete ass)
Cincy, I think it's time to face it they are ass, ISU is actual a decent team, but wow
Baylor, sleepybear.gif
UCF, sleepyknight.gif
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Can you elaborate on ranking OSU below both KSU and KU?
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At this point, I’d bet on Bedlam Part 2 as the Big 12 championship game.
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Can you elaborate on ranking OSU below both KSU and KU?
I don't believe in them still and neither team got destroyed by South Alabama. But we'll see.
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
So you think OSU goes 8-1 with a loss in bedlam 1.0 and UT goes 7-2 or worse and misses out?
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Week 8 overreactions.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
OU, still top, but UCF was coming hard, they are lucky
Tejas, still second, but Houston was coming hard as well, they are lucky
A tier (still good and could be there)
Okie State, ok, they proved me very wrong, and that's fine. Definitely got the mullet off any hot seat talk
K-State, the best quarter of football ever played, the rest of the game was still fairly good but stepped off the accelerator. Houston will still not great is now playing well.
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
KU, sleepyhawk.gif, don't get to rise just cause of a bye. They could easily if they beat OU
Iowa State, sleepyclone.gif, they got a chance to get themselves into the A, which is kinda crazy
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
BYU, rising a bit, a win vs a faltering TT will do that, see what happens vs Tejas
D tier (going to be a long season)
WVU, Okie State has completely turned around, and so has WVU, in the wrong direction
TCU, I get it was a freshman QB, but that was an abysmal defense.
Houston, not moving down even with the loss, they played Texas very tough, and had a chance, not ass (for now)
Baylor, a win keeps you off dat ass
F tier (complete ass)
Texas Tech, they ass, sorry
Cincy, keep dat ass going
UCF, hard to keep them as ass with that performance vs OU, but you also don't get to rise so there's that
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
So you think OSU goes 8-1 with a loss in bedlam 1.0 and UT goes 7-2 or worse and misses out?
No, I think OSU beats OU in Stillwater. Does it come down to rankings if OSU, OU, and UT all have one loss?
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Houston, most definitely is, was, and will be ass for the conceivable future
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Houston, most definitely is, was, and will be ass for the conceivable future
So you think Texas just isn't that good, or played down to their competition?
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Week 8 overreactions.
S tier (will be in Jerry World)
OU, still top, but UCF was coming hard, they are lucky
Tejas, still second, but Houston was coming hard as well, they are lucky
A tier (still good and could be there)
Okie State, ok, they proved me very wrong, and that's fine. Definitely got the mullet off any hot seat talk
K-State, the best quarter of football ever played, the rest of the game was still fairly good but stepped off the accelerator. Houston will still not great is now playing well.
B tier (looked good but still iffy long term)
KU, sleepyhawk.gif, don't get to rise just cause of a bye. They could easily if they beat OU
Iowa State, sleepyclone.gif, they got a chance to get themselves into the A, which is kinda crazy
C tier (either better than I thought or worse than I thought)
BYU, rising a bit, a win vs a faltering TT will do that, see what happens vs Tejas
D tier (going to be a long season)
WVU, Okie State has completely turned around, and so has WVU, in the wrong direction
TCU, I get it was a freshman QB, but that was an abysmal defense.
Houston, not moving down even with the loss, they played Texas very tough, and had a chance, not ass (for now)
Baylor, a win keeps you off dat ass
F tier (complete ass)
Texas Tech, they ass, sorry
Cincy, keep dat ass going
UCF, hard to keep them as ass with that performance vs OU, but you also don't get to rise so there's that
I would argue the beat quarter of football ever played was the 1Q against bama, but otherwise I find this assessment mostly agreeable
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
So you think OSU goes 8-1 with a loss in bedlam 1.0 and UT goes 7-2 or worse and misses out?
No, I think OSU beats OU in Stillwater. Does it come down to rankings if OSU, OU, and UT all have one loss?
Tiebreaker is head-to-head game outcome?
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UT would be on the outside looking in for that scenario I believe.
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
So you think OSU goes 8-1 with a loss in bedlam 1.0 and UT goes 7-2 or worse and misses out?
No, I think OSU beats OU in Stillwater. Does it come down to rankings if OSU, OU, and UT all have one loss?
Multiple-Team Ties
In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tiebreaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
1. Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not, every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.
2. Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.
1.When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.
3. Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie).
4. Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule).
5. Total number of wins in a 12-game season. The following conditions will apply to the calculation of the total number of wins:
1. Only one win against a team from the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision or lower division will be counted annually.
2. Any games that are exempted from counting against the annual maximum number of football contests per NCAA rules. (current Bylaw 17.10.5.2.1) shall not be included.
6. Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.
7. Coin toss
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I do acknowledge that ranking the best teams is different than ranking the odds for the conference championship game, but to me OSU’s remaining schedule appears to be setup perfectly.
So you think OSU goes 8-1 with a loss in bedlam 1.0 and UT goes 7-2 or worse and misses out?
No, I think OSU beats OU in Stillwater. Does it come down to rankings if OSU, OU, and UT all have one loss?
Multiple-Team Ties
In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tiebreaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
1. Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not, every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.
2. Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.
1.When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.
3. Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie).
4. Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule).
5. Total number of wins in a 12-game season. The following conditions will apply to the calculation of the total number of wins:
1. Only one win against a team from the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision or lower division will be counted annually.
2. Any games that are exempted from counting against the annual maximum number of football contests per NCAA rules. (current Bylaw 17.10.5.2.1) shall not be included.
6. Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.
7. Coin toss
Assuming OSU, OU, UT win out (except for Bedlam), and all finish at 8-1 (which is very unlikely), I think OSU is getting left out because of their loss to ISU under Multi-Team Tiebreaker Rule 2. In this scenario, OU and UT would have played and beat ISU, and OSU lost to ISU.
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Houston, most definitely is, was, and will be ass for the conceivable future
So you think Texas just isn't that good, or played down to their competition?
super bowl/blind squirrel, nut
even after the Texas game their team efficiencies are in the 60s, by far the least efficient FBS team we've played, damn near 20 points lower than Troy.
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Yeah if Houston isn’t the worst team in the league they’re darn close.
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guess we're just going to have to beat texas
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guess we're just going to have to beat texas
Yep, that game will be do or die for both teams. Win that one, and the winner has a good chance of winning on out and making Arlington. Lose, and you're almost surely eliminated from the race.
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I think they have quite a few key players injured, might be catching them at just the right time
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OSU could be ranked anywhere from #2-12 completely depending on the availability of Ollie Gordon. If he plays, they're one of the best teams in the conference.
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OSU could be ranked anywhere from #2-12 completely depending on the availability of Ollie Gordon. If he plays, they're one of the best teams in the conference.
I don't do as good a job on keeping up on other teams/players any more, and had no idea who this guy was or is, but you're right. He's performing like an all conference 1st teamer. OSU is a solid team with him playing significant snaps.
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OSU could be ranked anywhere from #2-12 completely depending on the availability of Ollie Gordon. If he plays, they're one of the best teams in the conference.
I don't do as good a job on keeping up on other teams/players any more, and had no idea who this guy was or is, but you're right. He's performing like an all conference 1st teamer. OSU is a solid team with him playing significant snaps.
I have heard that he rode the bench in the beging of the season. Seems the Mullet and the OC didn't know what they had.