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Title: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 07:47:51 AM
I personally cannot see Joe running again. Who's it going to be?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2022, 07:55:14 AM
I don't see any way it won't be Biden.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sys on November 09, 2022, 07:56:45 AM
barring health-related reasons, i agree with chum1.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2022, 07:58:03 AM
barring health-related reasons

Like death. And not much else.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: bucket on November 09, 2022, 07:59:29 AM
I disagree, I think he has to know better than to do that. I feel like he's been pretending he's going to run again because that narrative plays better for him and dems in the present.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Institutional Control on November 09, 2022, 08:02:03 AM
I don’t think he’s running.


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 08:03:55 AM
They'll roll out Sanders. Not enough time to plan for such a thing.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2022, 08:05:42 AM
I don't see any way it won't be Biden.

It’s joe and he will lose. Not just to Trump, either. If Joe keeps fumbling, the pillow guy might have a chance against him.

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 09, 2022, 08:06:25 AM
80% chance we will have to suffer thru Trump / Biden II.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Justwin on November 09, 2022, 08:08:51 AM
80% chance we will have to suffer thru Trump / Biden II.

I think Republicans will be done with Trump after this election. It was a disaster for him. If they nominate Trump again, they will deserve all the losses they will get.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I don't see any way it won't be Biden.

Agree.  No one quits power.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
I will bet someone $1,000 that if Biden runs again, he's done.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: catastrophe on November 09, 2022, 08:17:40 AM
I’d put at least even odds on Biden. Honestly no idea who else it would be. Dems are kind of idiots when it comes to rallying around a common sense candidate.

I’d love for it to be Pete or Julian Castro. Warren and Bernie are a bit too polarizing to drum up much excitement.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2022, 08:19:11 AM
I don't see any way it won't be Biden.

It’s joe and he will lose. Not just to Trump, either. If Joe keeps fumbling, the pillow guy might have a chance against him.

I think Biden would beat Trump or DeSantis. Independents are done with MAGA.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 09, 2022, 08:20:21 AM
I will bet someone $1,000 that if Biden runs again, he's done.
If the Repbulicans somehow nominate a candidate who is 1% less psycho than Trump, they defeat Biden easily.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:20:43 AM
I’d put at least even odds on Biden. Honestly no idea who else it would be. Dems are kind of idiots when it comes to rallying around a common sense candidate.

I’d love for it to be Pete or Julian Castro. Warren and Bernie are a bit too polarizing to drum up much excitement.

I'm obviously left of center, but I agree.  I'd go further in saying that most of the time Dems are idiots when it comes to rallying around anything...they cannot get stuff done.  Too much listening others views and making an attempt to create win-win situations and too little authoritarianism.  Pros and cons, I guess.

Also, Pete is a polarizing candidate too.  He's gay. 
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:21:46 AM
I will bet someone $1,000 that if Biden runs again, he's done.

I think you are right, but I don't think the Dems can keep him from running. 
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 08:22:01 AM
Biden's going to have a full 2 years of pubs performatively dragging his flunky son's BS through the ringer. I don't think he'll want to sign up for another 4 years of that in the public eye. And I don't think it would be good for his party. Though maybe it would be if it's a distraction and the nation tires of it. I don't know.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:24:06 AM
I will bet someone $1,000 that if Biden runs again, he's done.
If the Repbulicans somehow nominate a candidate who is 1% less psycho than Trump, they defeat Biden easily.

Agree.  DeSantis will bring the Independents (the very, very few real ones that even exist) and moderate republicans back by simply being less abrasive than Trump.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
I’m not sure the best cocktail of drugs in the world can keep that dude alive through 2028. 
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 08:25:49 AM
For me, it's Desantis or I don't show up to vote. This is the darkest ages of presidential candidates. It's insane both squads don't have anyone reasonable on the bench.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:27:06 AM
Dems are too big of pussies to do it, but if they could get Liz Cheny to switch sides and run for President as a very conservative Democratic nominee, that would be something that might just work.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: michigancat on November 09, 2022, 08:27:56 AM
I hope AOC spices things up a bit
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 08:28:25 AM
Maybe Hilary Clinton will have Biden murdered
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 08:30:22 AM
Dems are too big of pussies to do it, but if they could get Liz Cheny to switch sides and run for President as a very conservative Democratic nominee, that would be something that might just work.

Liz Cheney is more conservative than any other republican. If you actually care about anything in the democratic platform, you'd rather have Trump.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 09, 2022, 08:30:55 AM
Maybe Hilary Clinton will have Biden murdered

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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:31:05 AM
Dems are too big of pussies to do it, but if they could get Liz Cheny to switch sides and run for President as a very conservative Democratic nominee, that would be something that might just work.

Liz Cheney is more conservative than any other republican. If you actually care about anything in the democratic platform, you'd rather have Trump.

I care more about democracy than the democratic platform.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:33:24 AM
I hope AOC spices things up a bit

That would be living in interesting times, for sure.  I don't want to live in interesting times. AOC doesn't give a crap about the health of the party or countering the right.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Trim on November 09, 2022, 08:37:29 AM
What’s the highest-ranking position obama could be assigned to as part of a tag team with his wife running for and being president?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 08:40:13 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 08:42:04 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:43:53 AM
What’s the highest-ranking position obama could be assigned to as part of a tag team with his wife running for and being president?
VP?


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So, the "two term limit," I guess I was wrong in thinking that was consecutive terms?  I didn't pay attention in Unekis' policy sci class.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: OK_Cat on November 09, 2022, 08:45:57 AM
I wish we could get fresh faces and fresh ideas on both sides. I get really tired of 70+ year old white men as the options most years.


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
If it's not Biden, Newsome is probably the frontrunner.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 08:49:02 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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I honestly don’t think so but I’m wrong quite often
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: bucket on November 09, 2022, 08:52:13 AM
If it's not Biden, Newsome is probably the frontrunner.

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 08:54:23 AM
If it's not Biden, Newsome is probably the frontrunner.
A Desantis v. Newsome 2024 has my gubernatorial juices flowing. Which way western man!


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2022, 08:55:49 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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I honestly don’t think so but I’m wrong quite often

True story...I was at the Tom Harkin steak fry in Iowa in 2007 in basically the front row for a lineup of Edwards, Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Dodd, and I vividly remember telling the guy next to me "Zero chance this country will elect Obama."
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 08:56:59 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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I honestly don’t think so but I’m wrong quite often

True story...I was at the Tom Harkin steak fry in Iowa in 2007 in basically the front row for a lineup of Edwards, Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Dodd, and I vividly remember telling the guy next to me "Zero chance this country will elect Obama."
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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 09:19:53 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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I honestly don’t think so but I’m wrong quite often

True story...I was at the Tom Harkin steak fry in Iowa in 2007 in basically the front row for a lineup of Edwards, Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Dodd, and I vividly remember telling the guy next to me "Zero chance this country will elect Obama."

How was your steak?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
Dems problem is that their best candidates are probably women or POC and a woman/POC absolutely will not win.

They're going to have to find a good white dude or pres desantis it is.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: michigancat on November 09, 2022, 09:34:24 AM
Dems problem is that their best candidates are probably women or POC and a woman/POC absolutely will not win.

They're going to have to find a good white dude or pres desantis it is.

nah
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 09, 2022, 09:53:39 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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A Michelle Obama candidacy would send the wacko right wing fringe into apoplexy.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 09:54:32 AM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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A Michelle Obama candidacy would send the wacko right wing fringe into apoplexy.

I don't think they could get any more weird/mad tbh. It's max already.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 09:55:54 AM
like, could your anti-vax aunt from great bend get more frothy at the mouth over politics? mine couldn't. maxed out.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: michigancat on November 09, 2022, 09:56:48 AM
I don%u2019t think Michelle can win anything imo
She%u2019d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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A Michelle Obama candidacy would send the wacko right wing fringe into apoplexy.

I don't think they could get any more weird/mad tbh. It's max already.

yes joe biden is basically a moderate pub and he's treated like a trans communist who also hates police by maga

where do you go from that
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 09:59:28 AM
The crap you make up, mich.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 11:44:39 AM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2022, 11:46:14 AM
Rehashes
Booker
Harris
Warren
Bernie
Castro
Bloomberg
Klobuchar
Mayor Pete
We can agree zero of those although likely a VP from that group.

Bennett from Colorado?  Probably a good dude that moves the needle zero
Tim Ryan?  Precedent of not winning your own state to pres?
AOC? Can't win
Kamalola?  zero chance
Great Uncle Joe repeat?  :eek:
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 11:51:24 AM
They should nominate the most charismatic candidate they can find and stop saying things like "can't win because the bigots won't vote for them." If Joe Biden can win without campaigning, then anyone remotely likeable can beat whatever MAGA chud wins the death match.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2022, 12:32:29 PM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.

Fully agree.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 09, 2022, 12:49:57 PM
I wish Booker had more traction. He's not too progressive (relative to the other options) and is for pub things like school vouchers. Given the shitshow that is leaders in the dem party, it's odd to me that he hasn't been able to break through.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 01:08:39 PM
I wish Booker had more traction. He's not too progressive (relative to the other options) and is for pub things like school vouchers. Given the shitshow that is leaders in the dem party, it's odd to me that he hasn't been able to break through.
You guys remember when the news covered up this story real quick? It literally just evaporated into the abyss.

https://wibc.com/72189/himtoo-senator-cory-booker-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-gay-man/
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Spracne on November 09, 2022, 01:09:36 PM
I wish Booker had more traction. He's not too progressive (relative to the other options) and is for pub things like school vouchers. Given the shitshow that is leaders in the dem party, it's odd to me that he hasn't been able to break through.

He suffers from the same affliction as Beto: he's just kind of a dork. An enthusiastic dork, to be sure.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: LickNeckey on November 09, 2022, 01:12:07 PM
Pete B would be my pick but I just don't see it happening
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: OK_Cat on November 09, 2022, 01:18:59 PM
I wish Booker had more traction. He's not too progressive (relative to the other options) and is for pub things like school vouchers. Given the shitshow that is leaders in the dem party, it's odd to me that he hasn't been able to break through.
You guys remember when the news covered up this story real quick? It literally just evaporated into the abyss.

https://wibc.com/72189/himtoo-senator-cory-booker-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-gay-man/
It was nothing, even Fox News came out and said it was fake. Nice try!


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Spracne on November 09, 2022, 01:25:26 PM
Pete B would be my pick but I just don't see it happening

Pete is my guy, too. It is disappointing to see so many saying he can't get it done because there are still too many homophobes. I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 01:29:46 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
SD, do you think Biden and Clinton are far left progressive communists?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: cfbandyman on November 09, 2022, 01:37:21 PM
I don’t think Michelle can win anything imo
She’d run rule Trump in the 4th inning


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A Michelle Obama candidacy would send the wacko right wing fringe into apoplexy.

I don't think they could get any more weird/mad tbh. It's max already.

Correct, they'll find new lows but at this point they've frayed it all to the max

I wish we could get fresh faces and fresh ideas on both sides. I get really tired of 70+ year old white men as the options most years.


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Facts

The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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Facts

No clue who the dems will run, but I feel like DeSantis has to have the pub, trump clearly has overstayed his welcome and I don't think he could do it again.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: cfbandyman on November 09, 2022, 01:43:01 PM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.

Fully agree.

Second, if we can get past the stroke he would be the type of candidate dems, and really all americans, would want.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Spracne on November 09, 2022, 01:47:43 PM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.

Fully agree.

Second, if we can get past the stroke he would be the type of candidate dems, and really all americans, would want.

On the other hand, he is not so easy on the eyes. That seems to matter to some people.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: mocat on November 09, 2022, 01:49:03 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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lolwut
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 01:52:00 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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lolwut
What do you disagree with there?


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: cfbandyman on November 09, 2022, 01:53:43 PM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.

Fully agree.

Second, if we can get past the stroke he would be the type of candidate dems, and really all americans, would want.

On the other hand, he is not so easy on the eyes. That seems to matter to some people.

Understand, but is DeSantis or trump a dreamboat? As long as he ain't facing Kennedy he could do ok
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 01:57:30 PM
The democratic primary is pretty weird. Different states want different things from the party and it's really hard to predict who will emerge victorious. The republicans have always been a whole lot easier to predict, with the exception of Trump making the entire party his personal bitch in 2016.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Spracne on November 09, 2022, 02:00:01 PM
First of all, the Dems will view what happened last night as a win for Biden instead of the huge L for maga. So they'll wheel his weekend at Bernie's ass out there for the next two years, let's call it "the grassley."

Let's play fantasy tho. If Fetterman can recover from his stroke, he'd actually be a good choice. He's got progressive chops in a nice populist package who can't personally be attacked by bigots. Otherwise I think we're looking at Whitmer vs. Pete.

Fully agree.

Second, if we can get past the stroke he would be the type of candidate dems, and really all americans, would want.

On the other hand, he is not so easy on the eyes. That seems to matter to some people.

Understand, but is DeSantis or trump a dreamboat? As long as he ain't facing Kennedy he could do ok

Fair point, but you legit see idiots (including on this board) making memes are advancing the inscrutable position that those guys are, in fact, dreamboats. I'm going to need to see his wife before I make any conclusions.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 02:02:40 PM
 :lol: So mad.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: mocat on November 09, 2022, 02:04:13 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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lolwut
What do you disagree with there?


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boring and moderate does not disqualify you from advancing through dem primaries. recent history would suggest the opposite actually
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 02:07:14 PM
Hur Hur... #Politics

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(https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5fadc068fe21cd4e4317cbdb/2:3/w_1000,h_1500,c_limit/Pol_PA-Fetterman_11-12_PROMO.jpg)
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 02:09:16 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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Did you forget who the president is and what happened with him and the rest of the moderates during the primary season?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 02:10:59 PM
Pre stroke Fetterman would beat your ass then steal your girl, and by your I mean your, not mine.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 02:12:55 PM
They should nominate the most charismatic candidate they can find and stop saying things like "can't win because the bigots won't vote for them." If Joe Biden can win without campaigning, then anyone remotely likeable can beat whatever MAGA chud wins the death match.

The 2024 guy or gal won't have the benefit of running against trump. The few independents and third party voters left will be much more discerning with their vote.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 02:13:45 PM
The thing about Pete, Booker, etc. is that they are boring and moderate AF and can’t get past a primary. Same with any moderate pubs.


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Did you forget who the president is and what happened with him and the rest of the moderates during the primary season?
I HOPE SO


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 02:14:21 PM
Pre-stroke Fetterman was very good at arming himself and chasing down unarmed black men.

Ol' Shotgun (pointed at black dudes) John Fetterman





Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 09, 2022, 02:15:58 PM
Pre stroke Fetterman would beat your ass then steal your girl, and by your I mean your, not mine.
I would never be scared of losing a girl to that Mongoloid
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 02:17:10 PM
They should nominate the most charismatic candidate they can find and stop saying things like "can't win because the bigots won't vote for them." If Joe Biden can win without campaigning, then anyone remotely likeable can beat whatever MAGA chud wins the death match.

The 2024 guy or gal won't have the benefit of running against trump. The few independents and third party voters left will be much more discerning with their vote.

I wouldn't write Trump off just yet.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 02:23:36 PM
Come on, it's going to be ol racist war monger Creepy Joe again.

I mean  :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 02:34:42 PM
They should nominate the most charismatic candidate they can find and stop saying things like "can't win because the bigots won't vote for them." If Joe Biden can win without campaigning, then anyone remotely likeable can beat whatever MAGA chud wins the death match.

The 2024 guy or gal won't have the benefit of running against trump. The few independents and third party voters left will be much more discerning with their vote.

I wouldn't write Trump off just yet.

I'd love it if he somehow won the nomination but the diminishing returns for maga can't be ignored and I don't know how they're going to turn it around.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 02:37:50 PM
They should nominate the most charismatic candidate they can find and stop saying things like "can't win because the bigots won't vote for them." If Joe Biden can win without campaigning, then anyone remotely likeable can beat whatever MAGA chud wins the death match.

The 2024 guy or gal won't have the benefit of running against trump. The few independents and third party voters left will be much more discerning with their vote.

I wouldn't write Trump off just yet.

I'd love it if he somehow won the nomination but the diminishing returns for maga can't be ignored and I don't know how they're going to turn it around.

Elon will put him back on Twitter and he will say something stupid to get himself on Fox News "saying what needed to be said" every day. It's very effective with the Republican base.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 09, 2022, 02:43:25 PM
True story - I worked with Fetterman on a community improvement project when he was mayor of Braddock about 10 years ago. Didn't work super closely with him, but he was pretty involved and the project was successful as part of his attempt to revitalize a horrifically depressed town (if anyone wants an example of a formerly legit town that completely went to crap after all the middle class manufacturing jobs left, Braddock is a great example).

Back then - I'm sure he's been compromised at this point - he was quite genuine, forward-thinking, no-bullshit, etc. and he was very engaging when he was invited to address our entire organization at a retreat. Didn't follow his career too closely after that, but in thinking about how he was back then, it's surprising he is where he's at now (hence the compromise comment).
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 02:44:33 PM
He seems like a genuinely good human being


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 02:49:04 PM
Great guy - even when he's chasing down unarmed black guys and holding them at gunpoint

But he explained that he's not really that kind of guy, and that will pass all day in #blueanon world. 



Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Trim on November 09, 2022, 02:54:43 PM
As is customary when posted cryptically more than once, here is what google indicates dax is talking about:

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 02:56:12 PM
Affirming that #blueanon never fully understands the background of their candidates

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2022, 02:56:44 PM
no one is writing trump off.  The red wave just took such a n emasculating beatdown they have to blame someone for a few days.  trump cannot go away, he is broke and needs to keep the grift going so he will find something moronic to sell to mike lindell and crew.

hopefully he doesn't shatter the GOP by running independent
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: OK_Cat on November 09, 2022, 02:57:00 PM
Jesus you guys, why didn’t we get together at our last blueanon meeting and go over the past ten years of a guy running for office in another state


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Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 02:57:52 PM
Affirming that #blueanon never fully understands the background of their candidates

dax, I don't think he's a candidate for anyone here. southiecat69 hasn't posted in ages.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 02:58:25 PM
Yep, not a high profile race at all, great point OKC

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: OK_Cat on November 09, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Yep, not a high profile race at all, great point OKC
Sorry, grandpaofdaxjones, most of us don’t do extensive background checks on candidates that we can’t vote for


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Title: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: catastrophe on November 09, 2022, 03:00:17 PM
SD, do you think Biden and Clinton are far left progressive communists?
I think these are actually both correct. Dems always act like they can’t handle a truly moderate nominee until it’s time to choose and they panic pick the most uninspired but recognizable moderate face. It’s infuriating.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2022, 03:01:09 PM
Yep, not a high profile race at all, great point OKC
Sorry, grandpaofdaxjones, most of us don’t do extensive background checks on candidates that we can’t vote for


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I voted for him like 6 times by mail bro.  #blueanon   :gocho:
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:01:22 PM
Yep, not a high profile race at all, great point OKC
Sorry, grandpaofdaxjones, most of us don’t do extensive background checks on candidates that we can’t vote for


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Background check  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Plus, that was posted by the dude who claims to be old, and can't spark it up because he's old and tired all the time already.

#lowenergy

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 03:03:13 PM
Jesus you guys, why didn’t we get together at our last blueanon meeting and go over the past ten years of a guy running for office in another state


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I've been following him closely for three years, he's the most prominent progressive in the country, not in Congress. He's been open about the indecent with the gun, unlike dax, I actually care about black men being chased by a gun and I'm fine with his explanation and the fact that he hasn't tried to sweep it under the rug.

I think he's genuine but he's certainly smart enough to know that being a progressive while walking around in Carhartt is good for the brand
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:04:12 PM
If a Pub candidate did that #blueanongE would be on page 279 on a thread all about them by now

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 03:06:21 PM
If a pub candidate did that they wouldn't be open and apologetic about it and more importantly their platform wouldn't be reflective of someone who isn't regretful of chasing black people with a gun.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:06:58 PM
If a pub candidate did that they wouldn't be open and apologetic about it and more importantly their platform wouldn't be reflective of someone who isn't regretful of chasing black people with a gun.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're so full of crap, dude.

Goodness
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
If a pub candidate had done that, he would have pulled the trigger.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2022, 03:08:02 PM
If a Pub candidate did that #blueanongE would be on page 279 on a thread all about them by now

I have decided to do some background research on candidate herschel walker even though I have no chance whatsever of voting for him in any capacity. 

Be right back!
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:09:58 PM
No need to keep affirming that you're part of the resident #blueanon confederacy of not knowers, Dug. 

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Trim on November 09, 2022, 03:11:14 PM
:lol:

Quote
What does the jogger say happened?

Miyares, in a letter to The Inquirer, disputed some of Fetterman’s account.

“He knew my race. The gun was aimed at my chest while he loaded five red shells into the tube of the 12-gauge TAC shotgun,” Miyares wrote in February 2021. “Once he finished, he aimed it at my face out of the Ford F-150 Truck.”

While Fetterman has maintained he heard gunshots, Miyares has said the noise was bottle rockets. Two other people in the area reported gunshots to police, according to the police report.

Miyares also told The Inquirer their encounter shouldn’t stop Fetterman from becoming a senator.

“Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man’s life,” Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. “I hope he gets to be a Senator.” (That last line was underlined three times.)

Miyares didn’t expect Fetterman to change his account.

“Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”

He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”

Where is Miyares now?

Miyares wrote to The Inquirer in response to a letter seeking his side of the story. Miyares is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work.

According to the criminal complaint, the victim told investigators Miyares pulled out a knife after asking her a series of personal questions, driving a route not in the direction of her job, and locking all the car doors. She forced her door open, escaped, and flagged down nearby drivers for help as Miyares drove off. He later sent her a text message saying he knew where she lived and worked.

Miyares was paroled in July 2021 but was incarcerated for violating his parole that October. He was paroled again in January 2022, and violated his parole in March. He was released from SCI Smithfield, which is near Huntingdon in the Allegheny Mountains, on April 25, according to the Department of Corrections.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:13:54 PM
Looks like the youngster is a victim of the hardcore sentencing that the current President and the previous Dem nominee championed.

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 03:15:20 PM
Looks like the youngster is a victim of the hardcore sentencing that the current President and the previous Dem nominee championed.



lol
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Gooch on November 09, 2022, 03:15:24 PM
Lol, victim. Dude literally can't stop re-offending .
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2022, 03:17:23 PM
If a Pub candidate did that #blueanongE would be on page 279 on a thread all about them by now

I have decided to do some background research on candidate herschel walker even though I have no chance whatsever of voting for him in any capacity. 

Be right back!

I have horrible news for you about walker
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:23:01 PM
A person went on to commit crimes, so that makes a soon to be Dem Senator chasing him down with a loaded shotgun perfectly acceptable.

Perfect series of posts for the life and times thread.

As I say, #blueanon circles the wagons better than anyone



Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Trim on November 09, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
A person went on to commit crimes, so that makes a soon to be Dem Senator chasing him down with a loaded shotgun perfectly acceptable.

Perfect series of posts for the life and times thread.

As I say, #blueanon circles the wagons better than anyone





Went on to commit crimes, get imprisoned, and write letters of support for his assailant/candidate.

Gooo Fetterman!
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:29:50 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: passranch on November 09, 2022, 03:33:48 PM
It's kind of interesting to juxtapose the current conversation against the George Floyd situation.  But maybe I'm just trying too hard here.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
You mean the George Floyd situation where generational #blueanon politicians did nothing about a bad cop.

But most of their careers prospered.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: catastrophe on November 09, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation
Dax, do you think the black victim in this case is credible?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 03:44:16 PM
It's kind of interesting to juxtapose the current conversation against the George Floyd situation.  But maybe I'm just trying too hard here.

Care to expand on this?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 03:47:15 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation
Dax, do you think the black victim in this case is credible?

Credible or not, that doesn't change the fact that JF committed assault with a deadly weapon.



Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2022, 03:49:41 PM
I nailed the timing on this sucker for sure though

https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1590461380658081792
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2022, 03:51:32 PM
Come on, it's going to be ol racist war monger Creepy Joe again.

I mean  :lol: :lol:

Yes, listen to this guy who was still adament in September 2020 that Hillary would be the nominee.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: catastrophe on November 09, 2022, 04:04:14 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation
Dax, do you think the black victim in this case is credible?

Credible or not, that doesn't change the fact that JF committed assault with a deadly weapon.
So you don’t care about Fetterman or this guy’s version of the story?
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2022, 04:05:33 PM
I nailed the timing on this sucker for sure though

https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1590461380658081792

It's my intention to be 210 lbs with 12% body fat by 2024 too.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation
Dax, do you think the black victim in this case is credible?

Credible or not, that doesn't change the fact that JF committed assault with a deadly weapon.
So you don’t care about Fetterman or this guy’s version of the story?

I believe the jogger's version of the story, fwiw.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
I nailed the timing on this sucker for sure though

https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1590461380658081792

It's my intention to be 210 lbs with 12% body fat by 2024 too.

Dang diesel
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: passranch on November 09, 2022, 04:19:59 PM
It's kind of interesting to juxtapose the current conversation against the George Floyd situation.  But maybe I'm just trying too hard here.

Care to expand on this?

Meh, it's probably nothing.  I'm not trying to gotcha anyone here, just kind of interesting to me is all.
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
I nailed the timing on this sucker for sure though

https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1590461380658081792

Reads like Joe not wanting to be a lame duck for as long as possible, imo
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 04:41:33 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

Congrats to Joe for his early precog adaptation
Dax, do you think the black victim in this case is credible?

Credible or not, that doesn't change the fact that JF committed assault with a deadly weapon.
So you don’t care about Fetterman or this guy’s version of the story?

Your movement literally never accepts explanations of this type.

Can you admit that Joe Fetterman committed assault with a deadly weapon, or not?

Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2022, 04:44:44 PM
Come on, it's going to be ol racist war monger Creepy Joe again.

I mean  :lol: :lol:

Yes, listen to this guy who was still adament adamant in September 2020 that Hillary would be the nominee.

Fixed it for you.

Yes, I was excruciatingly adamant that Hillary was going to run.  You nailed it as always.

Democrats:  Party of old white racist pedophiles







Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2022, 08:45:34 PM
 :gocho:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1590470476257697795
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: Skipper44 on November 09, 2022, 09:35:30 PM
As is customary when posted cryptically more than once, here is what google indicates dax is talking about:

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html
this is incident will help Fetterman if he makes it to a national election - it is basically a Texags  post IRL
Title: Re: 2024 Dem Candidate
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2022, 08:42:31 AM
:gocho:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1590470476257697795

Lol at the end "maybe he's just a really nice guy"