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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: chum1 on August 10, 2021, 11:13:05 PM
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I’m just being honest here, do any of you feel like you missed a year & a half out of your life? Like, I’d be sick about that, but whatever. Go cats! Hope to see you soon!
This is a really good question, and no I don't. It was a different experience, but it was an experience and I had good times and bad times. I missed pickup basketball but became a CrossFit bro and made new friends in the process, I didn't get to go to Croatia but I got to go on a road trip to Oregon with some of my best friends, my kids' school experience sucked but we got to spend more time together than we had before, etc. etc.
And honestly since I've been vaxxed my life is pretty much like it was before but with more options, especially since so many concert venues are requiring vaccination. I wear masks quite a bit but who gives a crap
This topic probably deserves its own thread.
Agree
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Changes that seem to be sticking for me.
Out: two regular volunteer gigs
In: AMPLE down time
Out: career progression/advancement
In: hoarding money
Out: going to the office for work
In: never again going to the office for work
Out: going to restaurants
In: getting take out
Out: concerts, movie theaters, sporting events
In: Fortnite
Out: vacations
In: uhh, no vacations ???
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hasn't been a huge change for me in lifestyle (has in like media consumption, topic mindshare and stuff like that). work is the same, leisure time is mostly unchanged. biggest change has been (lack of) travel and i'm planning on getting back to baseline in that regard asap.
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I've come to enjoy a Friday night in the house a lot more than I did before
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2020... Pretty damn locked down until September-ish.
Still went to the beach for my usual fall vacation. Summer was limited to day trips.
Dining habits changed. We did Hello Fresh 3x a week. Once restaurants opened, we started going once a week. We've since dropped HF. Buy more meat and grill more.
Couldn't be on-track for my horses running last year except one time. That kinda sucked. Things are mostly back to normal on that front.
2021 has been mostly normal except that I'm WFH 90% with limited biz travel.
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Oh yeah I became a good cook
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hasn't been a huge change for me in lifestyle (has in like media consumption, topic mindshare and stuff like that). work is the same, leisure time is mostly unchanged. biggest change has been (lack of) travel and i'm planning on getting back to baseline in that regard asap.
This, lack of travel was the biggest restriction but all that pto (and cash) is banked and ready to be unleashed.
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I'll have to travel somewhere one day just to see if it is something that I still think is worthwhile. I currently have no strong urge to go anywhere.
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Got a little pudgy but then that made me mad so dropped that and then some and got ripped.
better cook
missed 2 trips but that didn't save any money because work sponsored.
missed 1 season of softball and hockey, that is back.
Kids: tbd. They seem to have done fine, oldest maybe missed some friends and it is a set back I think. She probably grew apart from maybe 2 good ones that she was pretty tight with but made some new ones who live closer.
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Media consumption is an interesting one. I had moved completely to streaming services (aside from live sports) before the pandemic but early into it I started watching a lot more YouTube and twitch. Now probably 80% of my media consumption is from YouTube and I love it. The pandemic got a lot of people involved in being a content creator and I think it's very cool that creative and talented people can break into the media business and make a living directly from audience support.
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Besides getting that ass, sports and traveling are my two favorite things on this planet. So yeah, the last year and half sucked. It was weird seeing NFL teams play in empty stadiums & the cats having 30 players out for a game due to covid protocols, etc. Getting furloughed sucked ass too, but I'm doing well again, so all is good there. Go cats & ass!
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hasn't been a huge change for me in lifestyle (has in like media consumption, topic mindshare and stuff like that). work is the same, leisure time is mostly unchanged. biggest change has been (lack of) travel and i'm planning on getting back to baseline in that regard asap.
This, lack of travel was the biggest restriction but all that pto (and cash) is banked and ready to be unleashed.
Mid 2020 our company went to unlimited PTO to prevent that pto bank. Not happy about it, but pretty genius in reality.
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hasn't been a huge change for me in lifestyle (has in like media consumption, topic mindshare and stuff like that). work is the same, leisure time is mostly unchanged. biggest change has been (lack of) travel and i'm planning on getting back to baseline in that regard asap.
This, lack of travel was the biggest restriction but all that pto (and cash) is banked and ready to be unleashed.
Mid 2020 our company went to unlimited PTO to prevent that pto bank. Not happy about it, but pretty genius in reality.
it's a shitty policy but take advantage of it by going to weekday afternoon baseball on like a Tuesday
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Biggest hurdle for us (my wife and I) is we had our first child July of last year. It was tough not allowing any family\friends to see him. Plus with the hot Denver summer and wild fire smoke we couldn't even go on walks outside until about October. And because we couldn't go anywhere, our 13 month old now won't nap anywhere but his crib or pack n play. We had to delay our babymoon to Hawaii 3 times, but finally are going in 3 weeks!
Other than that I played a crap ton of golf, ate a ton of great takeout, became a sports gambling degen, and drank more booze than I can remember... all fun things!
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hasn't been a huge change for me in lifestyle (has in like media consumption, topic mindshare and stuff like that). work is the same, leisure time is mostly unchanged. biggest change has been (lack of) travel and i'm planning on getting back to baseline in that regard asap.
This, lack of travel was the biggest restriction but all that pto (and cash) is banked and ready to be unleashed.
Mid 2020 our company went to unlimited PTO to prevent that pto bank. Not happy about it, but pretty genius in reality.
it's a shitty policy but take advantage of it by going to weekday afternoon baseball on like a Tuesday
Yeah the biggest issue I have is I work in tech, so I constantly work after hours. And previously I could bank those hours as comp time, and save the PTO. Now comp time is no different than unlimited pto and I have no pto bank.
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oh jeez, you're really getting mumped.
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Working from home is definitely the biggest change for me. At first I loved it, and there are times I still do, but I also miss the office at times now.
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Working from home is definitely the biggest change for me. At first I loved it, and there are times I still do, but I also miss the office at times now.
Last spring I was hybrid and I went in 1-2 days a week. It was perfect because it allowed you to get out of the house, but you also had the freedom WFH provides whenever you wanted. I returned to the office full-time on Monday. :cry:
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I think I will look back on it much more fondly than it felt at the time. I got to spend massive amounts of time with my family. However, at the time I was in a pretty constant state of trying to manage my emotions and fears...I grudgingly admit it was "growth." I was pretty caught up in fear of economic insecurity, much more so than death or permanent disability, so that should tell you something about my defects of character right there. :(
I sometimes think about how much more wonderful it could have been if I had chosen to let go of all fear and be free to enjoy that time. It was still great, don't get me wrong, but it could have been so much more wonderful, and I am the reason it wasn't.
The life lesson (and one that I have had literally hundreds if not thousands of chances previously to learn) is that is that everything is OK, and it will be OK, I just don't get to know how it will be OK. That's something that I have to recommit to every single morning.
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Working from home is definitely the biggest change for me. At first I loved it, and there are times I still do, but I also miss the office at times now.
Last spring I was hybrid and I went in 1-2 days a week. It was perfect because it allowed you to get out of the house, but you also had the freedom WFH provides whenever you wanted. I returned to the office full-time on Monday. :cry:
Yes, going in 1-2 days a week would be perfect.
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Mine has been ok. Lucky both of us have jobs still, none have been sick, etc. I like working from home so that has been great. They are prob going to make me go back a couple days a week for no apparent reason, which is annoying. I don't work with anyone located in my office so its pretty pointless. Cooked more, figured out good takeout (Joes KC app and pickup :love: ). Also, managed to stay and probably get more fit during all of this. Since I'm home more, I can get a good hour/hour and a half of kicking my ass in each day, which has been great. I have discovered lately that I am really bored though. Like bored with everything. We still go out a bit, but Mrs SF is starting to worry a lot more now with cases rising and kids getting it more. Went to a couple concerts last week which was fun, but it was hard to not think about all of the unvaxed dumbasses the whole time. Not really sure what I need, but I need something to get me out of the funk that I mostly attribute to the pandemic or at least I think that is what it is.
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Mine has been ok. Lucky both of us have jobs still, none have been sick, etc. I like working from home so that has been great. They are prob going to make me go back a couple days a week for no apparent reason, which is annoying. I don't work with anyone located in my office so its pretty pointless. Cooked more, figured out good takeout (Joes KC app and pickup :love: ). Also, managed to stay and probably get more fit during all of this. Since I'm home more, I can get a good hour/hour and a half of kicking my ass in each day, which has been great. I have discovered lately that I am really bored though. Like bored with everything. We still go out a bit, but Mrs SF is starting to worry a lot more now with cases rising and kids getting it more. Went to a couple concerts last week which was fun, but it was hard to not think about all of the unvaxed dumbasses the whole time. Not really sure what I need, but I need something to get me out of the funk that I mostly attribute to the pandemic or at least I think that is what it is.
have you ever been to therapy? I know it can be hard to find folks but my wife had really good luck with betterhelp.com
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I think I will look back on it much more fondly than it felt at the time. I got to spend massive amounts of time with my family.
Same Pete. Honestly if we had to go back to full lockdown for a time I wouldn’t be terribly upset.
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as someone who was just starting to begin my mixed martial arts career, covid has really had a big impact on me
the gyms have been very limited in terms of training time and a lot of sparing is done via AR. i’ll be ok but it’s just a tough hill to climb when you have goals like I do in the art
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It was/is going to be biggest weird period of my life.
Working from home is mostly awesome, but there are a lot of benefits in the office, IDK, I wish you could have a lot of the personal interactions that isn't so cold and remote as teams but also not needing to dress up or commute to work. Those both suck and I don't even really dress that much up or drive that far, but still, shows how much I don't enjoy that. Like I never missed being cut off, or just weird ass drivers, or crappy parkers, etc.
I think living by myself during that period taught me a lot about myself, but it wasn't a lot of overall good things and I found there is definitely too much time to yourself. I think I found myself drinking a lot more, became more short with people, and I guess resented the fact I had to interact with anyone more then than when I do it now more on a regular basis being back in the office or going out. Basically being personable became harder work because I wasn't around people all the time. I also paradoxically I think worked more or at least put in more hours as it was harder to get away. I did learn to cook more/better and it was also nice to in general spend less on things, so those were positives.
I also thing the lack of sports and other "going out" activities also taught me how, almost forced it seems like doing a lot of the activities are, like, I don't need to go to a game, I don't need to go out if I don't want to, it'll be ok. Overall I think in a good way FOMO kinda evaporated. What is there to miss out on everything is missed out on? And that feeling has kinda kept going.
I think overall what it really reinforced was my natural tendency to want to be alone, but I need socialization because too much of being alone is not good and you need personal interactions and contact. And if I weren't to be alone it better be with someone I don't mind spending that much time with.
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Mine has been ok. Lucky both of us have jobs still, none have been sick, etc. I like working from home so that has been great. They are prob going to make me go back a couple days a week for no apparent reason, which is annoying. I don't work with anyone located in my office so its pretty pointless. Cooked more, figured out good takeout (Joes KC app and pickup :love: ). Also, managed to stay and probably get more fit during all of this. Since I'm home more, I can get a good hour/hour and a half of kicking my ass in each day, which has been great. I have discovered lately that I am really bored though. Like bored with everything. We still go out a bit, but Mrs SF is starting to worry a lot more now with cases rising and kids getting it more. Went to a couple concerts last week which was fun, but it was hard to not think about all of the unvaxed dumbasses the whole time. Not really sure what I need, but I need something to get me out of the funk that I mostly attribute to the pandemic or at least I think that is what it is.
have you ever been to therapy? I know it can be hard to find folks but my wife had really good luck with betterhelp.com
I thought that is what this was? Kidding, I've thought about it. Pretty sure my company even pays for it. I think I'm just in a bit of a rut and will see how it goes for a bit. Thanks for the tips.
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It was difficult for us married folks in the lifestyle to adapt for a long while. But post-vaccination, things have been on the upSWING, iykwim.
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as someone who was just starting to begin my mixed martial arts career, covid has really had a big impact on me
the gyms have been very limited in terms of training time and a lot of sparing is done via AR. i’ll be ok but it’s just a tough hill to climb when you have goals like I do in the art
Hope everyone at your dojo is healthy, obviously, but it would be nice if they let you vaccinated guys and gals get back in there.
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My job is one of those currently experiencing massive attrition because there’s practically no separation of work and life in the full flex WFH world. They keep trying to throw money at us which I guess is nice in the long run.
I think things will be better overall in a couple years but it’s definitely been an adjustment.
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as someone who was just starting to begin my mixed martial arts career, covid has really had a big impact on me
the gyms have been very limited in terms of training time and a lot of sparing is done via AR. i’ll be ok but it’s just a tough hill to climb when you have goals like I do in the art
Hope everyone at your dojo is healthy, obviously, but it would be nice if they let you vaccinated guys and gals get back in there.
mind’s eye a needle on the front of my foot like roadhouse but it’s filled up with vaccines
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Glad everyone here is doing so well.
A reminder of how the other half lives:
At the end of January, the data indicated, more than 24 million adults had not had enough to eat sometimes or often in the previous seven days. That is five million more than in August 2020, when food hardship was already higher than before the pandemic. Human Rights Watch found that more than half of food-insecure households include children, raising serious concerns about the long-term consequences on children’s health and their academic outcomes. More than 45 percent of food-insecure households are in the lowest income quartile, making less than $35,000 a year. Racial disparities are high, with Black and Latinx adults living in food-insufficient households at more than twice the rate of white adults.
Low-income households were particularly likely to have lost work or income. Among households making less than $35,000 a year, 57.3 percent experienced income or employment loss during the pandemic, compared with 34.6 percent of those making more than $150,000 a year.
Tens of millions of households are estimated to be facing multiple stress factors simultaneously, including no work in the previous week, income loss, food and housing insecurity, or symptoms of depression. Low-income households are particularly prone to compounded layers of stress factors. One in nine adults living in households with an annual income below $35,000 experienced at least one of the five stress factors; 60 percent experienced at least two, and 30 percent struggled to manage three at the same time. Concurrent stress factors are much less frequent among highest earners, with only 18 percent currently experiencing more than one stressor.
People of color are also more likely to experience overlaying stress factors. Close to 45 percent of Black and Latinx adults live in a household that faces multiple stressors, compared to 30 percent of white and Asian adults
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/02/united-states-pandemic-impact-people-poverty (https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/02/united-states-pandemic-impact-people-poverty)
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yes we are very very lucky
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A reminder of how the other half lives:
Appreciate this, for sure. There's norhing just about any of it.
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Yes, got to keep things in perspective for sure
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Glad everyone here is doing so well.
A reminder of how the other half lives:
At the end of January, the data indicated, more than 24 million adults had not had enough to eat sometimes or often in the previous seven days. That is five million more than in August 2020, when food hardship was already higher than before the pandemic. Human Rights Watch found that more than half of food-insecure households include children, raising serious concerns about the long-term consequences on children’s health and their academic outcomes. More than 45 percent of food-insecure households are in the lowest income quartile, making less than $35,000 a year. Racial disparities are high, with Black and Latinx adults living in food-insufficient households at more than twice the rate of white adults.
Low-income households were particularly likely to have lost work or income. Among households making less than $35,000 a year, 57.3 percent experienced income or employment loss during the pandemic, compared with 34.6 percent of those making more than $150,000 a year.
Tens of millions of households are estimated to be facing multiple stress factors simultaneously, including no work in the previous week, income loss, food and housing insecurity, or symptoms of depression. Low-income households are particularly prone to compounded layers of stress factors. One in nine adults living in households with an annual income below $35,000 experienced at least one of the five stress factors; 60 percent experienced at least two, and 30 percent struggled to manage three at the same time. Concurrent stress factors are much less frequent among highest earners, with only 18 percent currently experiencing more than one stressor.
People of color are also more likely to experience overlaying stress factors. Close to 45 percent of Black and Latinx adults live in a household that faces multiple stressors, compared to 30 percent of white and Asian adults
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/02/united-states-pandemic-impact-people-poverty (https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/02/united-states-pandemic-impact-people-poverty)
What about all of this crap I've been reading about the stimulus lifting people out of poverty?
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
the issue is they pay less than a living wage
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
the issue is they pay less than a living wage
I saw a sign on a pizza restaurant while on vacation advertising $20/hour. Pretty good pay for a pizza joint.
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
the issue is they pay less than a living wage
I believe it. But either way just seems like a broken economy. Employers struggling to find work and workers struggling to makes ends meet. You’d think price would just adjust to the demand, but maybe the concern is that demand evaporates if price increases?
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I believe it. But either way just seems like a broken economy.
wages are rising and productivity is increasing. the market is working. it's pretty textbook.
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
the issue is they pay less than a living wage
I saw a sign on a pizza restaurant while on vacation advertising $20/hour. Pretty good pay for a pizza joint.
I thought about being a high schooler in this economy. These are the richest high schoolers ever.
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$20 an hour is great if you can piece together 40 hours a week and get benefits as well. I wonder how many of these jobs are offering full-time employment and health care? If they are offering that and still cannot fill the job in the midwest, what the heck is the working environment like? Makes me question the employer.
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Overall, I came out of the pandemic in better shape than I went into it. There were a few rough months, though. It really bothered me that I couldn't go to the grocery store and reliably get whatever cut of meat or piece of produce I had in mind for a meal. If anything, it was an experience that taught me what pampered, privileged, unappreciative little shits all of us are, and just how much harder life would have been had we been born even 50 years earlier. Hopefully I can keep that perspective moving forward.
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One thing I have absolutely noticed is service industry type jobs having trouble filling vacancies. I don’t quite understand the issue, but I am constantly noticing signs on restaurants about “now hiring all positions.”
yeah, eating out is tough in a lot of spots. Went to a place before the Garth show this week and they told us they couldn't seat anyone right now because they were closing off sections because 2 people didn't show up. Felt bad for those working. Other places I've been are similar. Just short staffed all around and wait times are brutal. I'm def sympathetic and tip way more than normal just because I know these poor fuckers are just getting yelled at all day by assholes.
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These are the richest high schoolers ever.
Not ever when adjusted for inflation. But it's been a while. Far too long.
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It's probably still harder for high schoolers to find work than it used to be, but I'm guessing that if the job shortage continues, more employers will get desperate enough to hire them.
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It's not from my experience. My kid got hired on her first application at local mall.
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I believe it. But either way just seems like a broken economy.
wages are rising and productivity is increasing. the market is working. it's pretty textbook.
Yep
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It's probably still harder for high schoolers to find work than it used to be.
it's super easy!
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$20 an hour is great if you can piece together 40 hours a week and get benefits as well. I wonder how many of these jobs are offering full-time employment and health care? If they are offering that and still cannot fill the job in the midwest, what the heck is the working environment like? Makes me question the employer.
This isn't about full-time career type jobs though. This is just a response to the earlier discussion about service industry jobs being so hard to fill for some reason. Largely (and especially in resort areas) these jobs are going to be temporary, seasonal jobs perfect as summer employment for high school kids or as a fill-in during off season months in winter resort towns. People working these jobs aren't in it for full time employment and benefits per se.
$20 an hour for a summer job at a pizza joint is pretty dang good. Two years ago they'd be lucky to get $10/hr for that same job. If I'm a high schooler that wants to save up for a car or for college or something it would be great. Not sure why employers are having so much trouble filling those positions.
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$20 an hour is great if you can piece together 40 hours a week and get benefits as well. I wonder how many of these jobs are offering full-time employment and health care? If they are offering that and still cannot fill the job in the midwest, what the heck is the working environment like? Makes me question the employer.
This isn't about full-time career type jobs though. This is just a response to the earlier discussion about service industry jobs being so hard to fill for some reason. Largely (and especially in resort areas) these jobs are going to be temporary, seasonal jobs perfect as summer employment for high school kids or as a fill-in during off season months in winter resort towns. People working these jobs aren't in it for full time employment and benefits per se.
$20 an hour for a summer job at a pizza joint is pretty dang good. Two years ago they'd be lucky to get $10/hr for that same job. If I'm a high schooler that wants to save up for a car or for college or something it would be great. Not sure why employers are having so much trouble filling those positions.
well, I mean, they aren't offering $20 an hour for fast food jobs in general despite this anecdote would be the main reason
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much much more family time for me. last year around may or so me and some buddies started our own gym. it started out at my house in my shop and then grew to another buddies garage that has a dual split system in it. pretty tight knit group but I do miss some meeting new people at the gym I used to go to. also do feel like some friends that I used to occasionally hangout with I don't see too much of anymore. definitely cooking more, cooking so much that you don't even know what the hell to make anymore.
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I believe it. But either way just seems like a broken economy.
wages are rising and productivity is increasing. the market is working. it's pretty textbook.
Yep
THEN WHY DID I SPEND 15 MINUTES IN A WENDY’S DRIVE THRU? (That was plastered with a “hiring all positions” sign)
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i’m conflicted because I don’t like it when people conflate a minimum wage and a livable wage, the two things are not the same and shouldn’t be. but at the same time, mcdonald’s made $5b in net income last year and can afford to pay folks a few bucks more to flip some burgers.
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Agreed! Restaurants have like a 17% success rate. Whatever pizza place that is that’s willing to pay $20 an hour to staff, better have a low overhead with this model moving forward or they’re doomed!
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Agreed! Restaurants have like a 17% success rate. Whatever pizza place that is that’s willing to pay $20 an hour to staff, better have a low overhead with this model moving forward or they’re doomed!
I’m not 100% certain you see the flaw in this model tbh
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I’m definitely not a finance expert, but $20 an hour sounds pretty aggressive for a restaurant that’s trying to pay overhead, supplies, etc. and depending on customers to return the favor by showing up/ordering. I love the idea of paying minimum wage jobs more, but I think fast food / restaurants are a bad place for it. Just my :th_twocents: as a former Sonic/Wendys cook, waiter/bartender of many places.
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Especially after the pandemic when a lot of these places had to shut down & are trying to make a comeback after taking a loan to stay alive. If they could barely keep their heads above water before covid, how can they do it now paying $20 an hour for a dough boy?
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Got super fat, changed jobs, moved twice
Other than not attending college or professional sporting events from March 3, 2020 to July 6, 2021 and still no theatre, no change to the day-to-day routines.
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what do you guys think a 20% increase in your burger flipper wages does to the price of your big mac (assuming all bullshit is out and it flows cleanly into the cost)? like, labor is such an inconsequential piece of whatever people pay for restaurant food it should be ignored. every eatery would be well served to pay $2, $3, $4, whatever more than everywhere else to get the best talent (would require them actually screening for and holding talent to that which isn't happening but we are doing an economic model here). other factors actually have or will make your big mac more expensive though. crap's expensive right now (not because your server/cook gets paid more).
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what do you guys think a 20% increase in your burger flipper wages does to the price of your big mac (assuming all bullshit is out and it flows cleanly into the cost)? like, labor is such an inconsequential piece of whatever people pay for restaurant food it should be ignored. every eatery would be well served to pay $2, $3, $4, whatever more than everywhere else to get the best talent (would require them actually screening for and holding talent to that which isn't happening but we are doing an economic model here). other factors actually have or will make your big mac more expensive though. crap's expensive right now (not because your server/cook gets paid more).
where do you get that from? payroll is their highest expense
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Frankly, pretty insignificant when looking at fast food.
Minimum wage:
NYC - $11
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labor costs account for around 25-30 percent of a fast food operation’s total operating cost. for each 10 percent rise in the minimum wage, food prices rise around four percent. average mcdonald’s dude makes $9/hour. to get him to $15/hr, an increase of 75 percent, food cost would increase by quite a bit, the average cost of a Big Mac could rise from $5.50 to $7.15.
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If these lowly employees put stake in the game, I’d understand the increase, they don’t though. They need a starter job & Sonic needs Ppl to flip burgers & spit in their History teacher’s burger, who’s head coach of the cheerleading team & telling my first love I’m a danger! :gocho:
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I wouldn't expect the pandemic to change the tendency of many to side with rich owners over low income workers. Deeply entrenched American values at work there.
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I wouldn't expect the pandemic to change the tendency of many to side with rich owners over low income workers. Deeply entrenched American values at work there.
”The rich owners” are not profiting right now. Especially in the food industry.
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I wouldn't expect the pandemic to change the tendency of many to side with rich owners over low income workers. Deeply entrenched American values at work there.
”The rich owners” are not profiting right now. Especially in the food industry.
They are (1) still rich and (2) glad to have you on their side.
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labor costs account for around 25-30 percent of a fast food operation’s total operating cost. for each 10 percent rise in the minimum wage, food prices rise around four percent. average mcdonald’s dude makes $9/hour. to get him to $15/hr, an increase of 75 percent, food cost would increase by quite a bit, the average cost of a Big Mac could rise from $5.50 to $7.15.
But the question is are restaurants actually not willing to pay market prices for labor, or are the market participants simply not interested in the work?
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I wouldn't expect the pandemic to change the tendency of many to side with rich owners over low income workers. Deeply entrenched American values at work there.
”The rich owners” are not profiting right now. Especially in the food industry.
They are (1) still rich and (2) glad to have you on their side.
How many culture war fronts can we handle at once? I guess we'll find out.
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Here's the thing. Maybe, just maybe you shouldn't be able to go to McDonalds and get 12 burgers for $4.75. :dunno:
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Here's the thing. Maybe, just maybe you shouldn't be able to go to McDonalds and get 12 burgers for $4.75. :dunno:
McDonalds really isn't that cheap and hasn't been for awhile.
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I think Laura Ingraham and the Bar Rescue guy say it pretty well
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1426017141724270597
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what do you guys think a 20% increase in your burger flipper wages does to the price of your big mac (assuming all bullshit is out and it flows cleanly into the cost)? like, labor is such an inconsequential piece of whatever people pay for restaurant food it should be ignored. every eatery would be well served to pay $2, $3, $4, whatever more than everywhere else to get the best talent (would require them actually screening for and holding talent to that which isn't happening but we are doing an economic model here). other factors actually have or will make your big mac more expensive though. crap's expensive right now (not because your server/cook gets paid more).
where do you get that from? payroll is their highest expense
mostly financial podcasts. here is one write up. chipotle is usually used as the example when it's discussed. will be interesting to see what their margins are coming out of this and what percent of that change was driven by the wage increase v. other inflationary factors.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/what-would-a-15-minimum-wage-mean-for-the-price-of-your-burrito-51615939295
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/08/chipotle-hikes-prices-to-cover-the-cost-of-raising-wages.html
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See you guys in the pit soon!
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another thing I learned in the pandemic is baking is harder than I'd realized and cooking is a lot easier than I realized (thanks Samin Nosrat)
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another thing I learned in the pandemic is baking is harder than I'd realized and cooking is a lot easier than I realized (thanks Samin Nosrat)
hell yeah, baking sucks bigtime.
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hell I barely realized cooking and baking were different things pre-pandemic (shame yourself thread)
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I probably got to spend more time with my newborn than I would have without the pandemic and for that I am thankful. Just little 30-60 minute outings that were taken off the table which add up over the course of a year.
Other than that, I worked more than I ever have in my life so for that reason I am kind of done with the pandemic.
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Oh yeah, and I also learned to cook.
Several things that I had not attempted before.
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I found out I have no real hobbies nor did I decide to embark in any during this time. Guess dining out, drinking, travel, sports watching is as dynamic I'll ever be. Unless making my home "smart" bit by bit can be considered a "hobby"
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With expanded delivery and ease of take-out, I have pretty much stopped cooking altogether. Big time benefit of the pandemic
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I found out I have no real hobbies nor did I decide to embark in any during this time. Guess dining out, drinking, travel, sports watching is as dynamic I'll ever be. Unless making my home "smart" bit by bit can be considered a "hobby"
Substitute horse betting for drinking and that's essentially my entertainment as well. Not a big hobby guy.
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I think Laura Ingraham and the Bar Rescue guy say it pretty well
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1426017141724270597
Oh Taffer, that's disappointing. I haven't seen his show but he makes occasional appearances on Le Batard and I like him a lot.
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labor costs account for around 25-30 percent of a fast food operation’s total operating cost. for each 10 percent rise in the minimum wage, food prices rise around four percent. average mcdonald’s dude makes $9/hour. to get him to $15/hr, an increase of 75 percent, food cost would increase by quite a bit, the average cost of a Big Mac could rise from $5.50 to $7.15.
But the question is are restaurants actually not willing to pay market prices for labor, or are the market participants simply not interested in the work?
some of both. (some) restaurants are reluctant to raise wages because they aren't sure that high demand/willingness to pay higher prices will stick. some potential employees are reluctant to work in a restaurant because they either found a better job, think they can find a better job, or aren't in as dire need of a job as of right now..
enhanced unemployment expires on sept 6 and one way or another it seems likely to me that after that participants in the labor market will more expeditiously converge (although it is my understanding that data from states that refused to implement enhanced unemployment is pretty mixed).
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oth, my best guess is that some people are never coming back to work (early retirement yolos) and others won't be anytime soon (mothers not sending children to school in person) and while those groups probably didn't make up a ton of restaurant workers, the shortage cascades to them.
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oth, my best guess is that some people are never coming back to work (early retirement yolos) and others won't be anytime soon (mothers not sending children to school in person) and while those groups probably didn't make up a ton of restaurant workers, the shortage cascades to them.
I was opining about these groups just last week when someone started "nobody is working" declarer. Lots of people I feel like realized they don't need to be double income and are enjoying their new life. Even more found a new career. Seeing that a lot with the hospitality industry folks I know and that's not just part time / low pay positions.
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I think Laura Ingraham and the Bar Rescue guy say it pretty well
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1426017141724270597
Oh Taffer, that's disappointing. I haven't seen his show but he makes occasional appearances on Le Batard and I like him a lot.
You should totally watch Bar Rescue. My favorite episode is the one where he got so outraged at these idiot bar owners that he yelled "SHUT IT DOWN!!" and stormed off like he wasn't going to help them out.
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oth, my best guess is that some people are never coming back to work (early retirement yolos) and others won't be anytime soon (mothers not sending children to school in person) and while those groups probably didn't make up a ton of restaurant workers, the shortage cascades to them.
I was opining about these groups just last week when someone started "nobody is working" declarer. Lots of people I feel like realized they don't need to be double income and are enjoying their new life. Even more found a new career. Seeing that a lot with the hospitality industry folks I know and that's not just part time / low pay positions.
LOL, immediately thought of this NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE! thing:
https://youtu.be/tZ49YFCMt2k
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I think Laura Ingraham and the Bar Rescue guy say it pretty well
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1426017141724270597
Oh Taffer, that's disappointing. I haven't seen his show but he makes occasional appearances on Le Batard and I like him a lot.
You should totally watch Bar Rescue. My favorite episode is the one where he got so outraged at these idiot bar owners that he yelled "SHUT IT DOWN!!" and stormed off like he wasn't going to help them out.
Yeah that's a good episode
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Spinoff thread image doing your first job today
My first job was as a guitar teacher. I bet I could make that work remotely. Also, I bet the parents would still let their kids come to the studio, for various reasons.