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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: _33 on September 24, 2019, 05:00:34 PM
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A lot of people on twitter seem to think so. I think probably not. What say you goEMAW?
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In 1776 our democracy was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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The US is not a democracy.
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The US is not a democracy.
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Yes it is. And don't clapback with Constitutional Republic thinking you're being clever.
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_33, you're my bud, but I'm pretty sure you're the worst pit poster.
Which is kind of crazy! Especially considering you're pretty good at everything else!
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In 1776 our democracy was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
no it wasn't dumbass.
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In 1776 our democracy was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
no it wasn't dumbass.
Let the Hitchhiker’s Guide reference be
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Settle down, everyone. And to answer the OP, absolutely not. This is a Certified Fresh example of democracy at work.
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_33, you're my bud, but I'm pretty sure you're the worst pit poster.
Which is kind of crazy! Especially considering you're pretty good at everything else!
Really? That can’t possibly be correct.
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It's certainly for the best that not everyone shares 33's cavalier attitude.
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It's certainly for the best that not everyone shares 33's cavalier attitude.
I’d replace “cavalier” with “cynical” but I understand your point.
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In 1776 our democracy was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
no it wasn't dumbass.
Ya I realize that but didn't want to go figure out the actual date
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1787 and Republic.
No, the Republic is not at stake.
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:drool: Mmmm did someone say steak
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It's certainly for the best that not everyone shares 33's cavalier attitude.
I’d replace “cavalier” with “cynical” but I understand your point.
Ah. I understand the skepticism.
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I’m a bit of an optimist, but I think Trump could end up being great for our democracy because he has basically broken all the unwritten rules and made people realize we should probably write some of these down.
All it takes is a complete idiot who is also an egomaniac for people to realize that maybe the elected president should have a little less power.
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_33, you're my bud, but I'm pretty sure you're the worst pit poster.
Which is kind of crazy! Especially considering you're pretty good at everything else!
Really? That can’t possibly be correct.
it’s not - 33 does some of the best posting in the pit
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I voted for trump or didn’t vote at all and I’m sick off all this crap
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I’m a bit of an optimist, but I think Trump could end up being great for our REPUBLIC because he has basically broken all the unwritten rules and made people realize we should probably write some of these down.
All it takes is a complete idiot who is also an egomaniac for people to realize that maybe the elected president should have a little less power.
The LAST thing the founders wanted was a democracy. :buh-bye:
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I voted for trump or didn’t vote at all and I’m sick off all this crap
I voted for that Mormon guy Evan McMullin because sys said if some weird thing happened he could win the whole election maybe.
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I voted for Hillary.
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I voted for Tom
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I voted for Gary Johnson. I’m not really ashamed or proud of it.
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If you live in Kansas, it really doesn't matter who you vote for anyway.
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If you live in Kansas, it really doesn't matter who you vote for anyway.
It’s getting closer to mattering. Which is crazy to think about.
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If you live in Kansas, it really doesn't matter who you vote for anyway.
Even if you think that about President, it is still important that you vote against Kobach
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If you live in Kansas, it really doesn't matter who you vote for anyway.
Even if you think that about President, it is still important that you vote against Kobach
Oh, sure. Your vote matters in every other election.
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Many people think democracy is at stake yet again in this election. Both sides are saying it though so it's confusing how to save it. I still think it's not at stake. What say you goEMAW.com?
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Anything happen since 2019 to make you think democracy is/was at stake, _33?
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Anything happen since 2019 to make you think democracy is/was at stake, _33?
Every school has litter boxes for catkids to poo in
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It’s always great to read the amazing thoughts of #blueanon regarding democracy (in our republic). Particularly in the context of democracy as defined by #blueanon
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I’m a bit of an optimist, but I think Trump could end up being great for our democracy because he has basically broken all the unwritten rules and made people realize we should probably write some of these down.
All it takes is a complete idiot who is also an egomaniac for people to realize that maybe the elected president should have a little less power.
No, and here is why. The right ppl needed to write those down are not in power.
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Anything happen since 2019 to make you think democracy is/was at stake, _33?
No, not really. You?
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it is
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Anything happen since 2019 to make you think democracy is/was at stake, _33?
No, not really. You?
if your answer is no then i can't imagine what it would take for it to be yes!
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How would you know if you're no longer living in a democracy?
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Another good one for Betteridge's Law of Headlines.
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How would you know if you're no longer living in a democracy?
It would be on the news.
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no consequences for politicians claiming (without evidence) that a presidential election was invalid/stolen/rigged is a pretty good cause for concern that has never happened before.
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You think claims of election fraud by the losing side is new to US politics? One difference is that now there is little evidence of fraud whereas not too long ago large scale fraud was commonplace for a variety of reasons. It seems to me our democracy is more solid than it was when rampant fraud was occurring.
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_33 do you think 1/6 was normal and not a big deal?
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Maybe it would be better to describe symptoms of democracy being at stake and then we can review with current stuff :dunno:
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I don't think it was normal, I think it was a big deal in that there was a riot at and inside the capitol. I don't think it posed any threat to democracy in the United States and the hyperbole surrounding the incident is mainly being used for political purposes as is to be expected.
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I don't think it was normal, I think it was a big deal in that there was a riot at and inside the capitol. I don't think it posed any threat to democracy in the United States and the hyperbole surrounding the incident is mainly being used for political purposes as is to be expected.
If you take that exact incident and add one detail at a time(for instance if one of them had a gun, If the SS got Pence in that car and kept him from certigying, etc) how far do you have to get before you worry?
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I don't think it was normal, I think it was a big deal in that there was a riot at and inside the capitol. I don't think it posed any threat to democracy in the United States and the hyperbole surrounding the incident is mainly being used for political purposes as is to be expected.
If you take that exact incident and add one detail at a time(for instance if one of them had a gun, If the SS got Pence in that car and kept him from certigying, etc) how far do you have to get before you worry?
This tactic isn't going to work (yours, to be clear).
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i don't think anything could rattle _33's rock solid faith in our democracy
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I don't think it was normal, I think it was a big deal in that there was a riot at and inside the capitol. I don't think it posed any threat to democracy in the United States and the hyperbole surrounding the incident is mainly being used for political purposes as is to be expected.
If you take that exact incident and add one detail at a time(for instance if one of them had a gun, If the SS got Pence in that car and kept him from certigying, etc) how far do you have to get before you worry?
I mean that would suck but what does it have to do with the survival of democracy in the United States? You know several presidents have been assassinated, right?
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
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It matters sometimes in joco
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
Yeah, it's p great.
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It matters sometimes in joco
How so?
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
I do believe we won't allow that to occur, for what it's worth.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
I do believe we won't allow that to occur, for what it's worth.
It's hard to believe that when such a large portion of the population (even elected officials) really wants it to happen.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
I do believe we won't allow that to occur, for what it's worth.
It's hard to believe that when such a large portion of the population (even elected officials) really wants it to happen.
It's just my belief, but I've been wrong 3 times before--most notably on the Dobbs case.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
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147 elected officials walked across broken glass and feces to vote against certifying the election.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
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147 elected officials walked across broken glass and feces to vote against certifying the election.
this is much more harmful for our democracy than if an elected official got assassinated, but i'm pretty sure _33 knows that
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
If you are asking for an example of when a free country decided to stop being one, those are sort of hard to find. I guess you could point to Iran. I don't think things are better for men in Iran today than they were in the 60s, but at least they don't live the nightmare that women do. I wouldn't exactly say they were free in the 60s either, though.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
literally never.
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If Trump had retained power in January 2021, the safety and property and liberty of his opponents, in his party and outside, would absolutely be in jeopardy regardless of ethnicity/sex.
I mean, there were people ready to kill the republican pro-life conservative white vice president for him on 1/6.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
I heard a stat 2 weeks ago that the avg age expectancy of a man in russia right now is 57. :dunno:
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
If you are asking for an example of when a free country decided to stop being one, those are sort of hard to find. I guess you could point to Iran. I don't think things are better for men in Iran today than they were in the 60s, but at least they don't live the nightmare that women do. I wouldn't exactly say they were free in the 60s either, though.
I'm not asking for any of that. I'm saying white men in America will not be impacted by election results at any time, even if an election is wrongfully overthrown. you brought up white Russian men for some reason
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
If you are asking for an example of when a free country decided to stop being one, those are sort of hard to find. I guess you could point to Iran. I don't think things are better for men in Iran today than they were in the 60s, but at least they don't live the nightmare that women do. I wouldn't exactly say they were free in the 60s either, though.
I'm not asking for any of that. I'm saying white men in America will not be impacted by election results at any time, even if an election is wrongfully overthrown. you brought up white Russian men for some reason
You only have to overthrow one election for elections to no longer matter. What country has a dictatorship that white men are doing well in?
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It matters sometimes in joco
How so?
I mean locally I guess not got for pres
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OK, I'm putting Rage Against The McKee down for 'yes'.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
I heard a stat 2 weeks ago that the avg age expectancy of a man in russia right now is 57. :dunno:
imagine making it to 28 and knowing its half over.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
I heard a stat 2 weeks ago that the avg age expectancy of a man in russia right now is 57. :dunno:
imagine making it to 28 and knowing its half over.
I mean, I am 44. I get it.
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This reminds me of people who were in denial over COVID. Or climate change. Or whatever people don't want to believe is actually happening.
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_33, could you expand on why you don't think a coup is a threat to democracy? Are you under the impression that trump would have followed the constitution and just gone on with business as usual if the plan had succeeded?
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I’m not even sure which election we are talking about at this point. Figured _33 was talking about mid terms.
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I’m not even sure which election we are talking about at this point. Figured _33 was talking about mid terms.
The Lake lady in Arizona already said she won’t accept the outcome of the AZ vote if she loses.
We are going to see this for a while.
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The non incumbent not accepting the result of the election is a new kind of special.
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I mean to be fair ANY election results or a even a more disastrous 1/6 coup probably won't impact white men in any meaningful way
I think Trump managing to hold onto power after losing would have affected all of us very meaningfully. Third world dictatorships aren't good for anyone.
would the health, safety, or property of white men be threatened?
I don't know. How are white men doing in Russia?
Don't know. They were definitely poorer than American ones before the war started but they're probably fine. :dunno:
They are all poor enough that it's worth their time and effort to steal large appliances from war zones and try to get that crap back home.
This. Life in russia for all but a few is an absolute horrorshow
But when has it not been?
If you are asking for an example of when a free country decided to stop being one, those are sort of hard to find. I guess you could point to Iran. I don't think things are better for men in Iran today than they were in the 60s, but at least they don't live the nightmare that women do. I wouldn't exactly say they were free in the 60s either, though.
I'm not asking for any of that. I'm saying white men in America will not be impacted by election results at any time, even if an election is wrongfully overthrown. you brought up white Russian men for some reason
You only have to overthrow one election for elections to no longer matter. What country has a dictatorship that white men are doing well in?
This is a really weird discussion.
There are tons of examples of white people doing great in other country’s dictatorships, they usually do quite well, but “white” is a pretty weird term to apply globally as it has a very specific meaning in the US and some different meanings in other countries. Like did white settlers do well in apartheid South Africa is pretty different from did white Catholics do well in Northern Ireland or if Romani do well now.
It is also a little rich acting like American democracy goes back to 1776 or that it is some unbroken chain of free and fair elections since our current constitution. Do people even know what the electoral college is?
When Dax gets all butt hurt about election fraud Like Truman or even JFK he never even bothers to mention that huge numbers of black people couldn’t vote in those elections. This isn’t just ancient history. And I know it is 22 years on, but Bush v Gore is right there. It isn’t that hard to find an election that had some, uh, question marks.
What all the people claiming Trump would’ve thrown them in jail or “turned this nation fascist” don’t want to reckon with is we have already done that crap around here before. It wasn’t trump, it was always here. It was here the whole time and a farce like Trump didn’t create it and he was always going to be too dumb and too lazy to really wield the type of power they fear. The type of power that has been wielded for years in this country against all kinds of people, and only occasionally do the people that are outraged at Trump dropping the mask have to be confronted with it, but never really face the consequences of it.
The worst part is the fantasy about Trump and the coup being the worst thing in American history or some grave existential threat is that it is mostly just embarrassment about being wrong about what America was. Obama made them feel good and feel proud and then this rough ridin' grotesquerie started speaking for them and it made them feel bad. Between that and the creeping existential horror about the environment and capitalism people just shoved all that on the bad guy (who was genuinely bad!) instead of reckoning with the bigger issues. It is why the same crew held out such great hopes for the FBI and Mueller and Comey and RBG and Pelosi and whoever else was supposed to “hold him accountable” and “fix it” and none of them could.
So _33 is right in the sense that he doesn’t have anything to worry about and Michigancat is probably effectively making that point that even if Trump would’ve done it, it would’ve mostly been a farce and there wouldn’t be camps the next day. Because as some people here are finding out, perhaps for the first time, our institutions are complete figments of our imagination and most of the rah rah American exceptionalism crap that KSU used to serve up was always bullshit.
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I can absolutely imagine things getting worse for white people. Think about the widening divide between the middle and upper classes. And I'm certainly not going to rule it out based on a fallacious inference from a factually inaccurate claim that it hasn't happened before.
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I don't see it happening (to white males) based on the results of the upcoming election. Does a "widening gap between the middle and upper classes" really make a difference to 33? no
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I can absolutely imagine things getting worse for white people. Think about the widening divide between the middle and upper classes. And I'm certainly not going to rule it out based on a fallacious inference from a factually inaccurate claim that it hasn't happened before.
Me too but that has very little to do with WHITE and a lot to do with CLASS.
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LMAO, a coup.
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I’m not even sure which election we are talking about at this point. Figured _33 was talking about mid terms.
The Lake lady in Arizona already said she won’t accept the outcome of the AZ vote if she loses.
We are going to see this for a while.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
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https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1582336598511095808
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Yeah, this fits in to my thesis that Republicans are the baddies, and the Democrats are just moonlighting as concerned citizens.
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Democracy functions perfectly when everyone agrees with us, and does what we say . . . #blueanon
Anything outside of that paradigm means only one thing . . . democracy (as we define it) is threatened . . . #blueanon
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Democracy functions perfectly when everyone agrees with us, and does what we say . . . #blueanon
Anything outside of that paradigm means only one thing . . . democracy (as we define it) is threatened . . . #blueanon
Have you considered what has gone wrong in your life to bring you to this eff-Around moment, dax?
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Politicians saying that the election was stolen are just pandering, they don't actually believe it.
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Politicians saying that the election was stolen are just pandering, they don't actually believe it.
Perhaps, but did they cause this comma splice? People are talking ...
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Democracy functions perfectly when everyone agrees with us, and does what we say . . . #blueanon
Anything outside of that paradigm means only one thing . . . democracy (as we define it) is threatened . . . #blueanon
Have you considered what has gone wrong in your life to bring you to this eff-Around moment, dax?
Have you considered how absurd you and the most of the people in this thread sound (and read)?
Listening and reading the American political left continually talk about threats to (our) Democracy has become both extremely humorous and absolutely amazing in every respect.
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Oh. Cool. :thumbs:
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Oh. Cool. :thumbs:
Spracs corner throws in the towel . . . as usual
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Politicians saying that the election was stolen are just pandering, they don't actually believe it.
Sure, but that makes their actions worse. Not better.
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I’m not even sure which election we are talking about at this point. Figured _33 was talking about mid terms.
The Lake lady in Arizona already said she won’t accept the outcome of the AZ vote if she loses.
We are going to see this for a while.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
She won the popular vote, you dumb bitch.
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LMAO, she’s an avowed election outcome denier, just like Stacy Abrams, and just like a host of other Dems
Popular vote . . . LMAO
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I have no clue what all you guys are talking about, but I saw this today:
https://twitter.com/AndyGrewal/status/1582515066427297792?s=20&t=gR8KPJc_B-_oa8knCccEJg
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I went back to the beginning of this thread to see if anyone made a "The US is not a democracy hur dur" post and boy I was not disappointed!
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I just wish I could change my vote on the poll.
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The best part are the people who have never figured out the the US is a Constitutional Republic.
What's even more fun is watching #blueanon melting down and either 1. Wanting to change the Constitution 2. Ignore it completely . . . when they don't get their way or the outcome(s) they want
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I'd like to change the constitution regardless of outcome.
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That pesky constitution getting in the way again . . . :frown:
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I have a bigger beef with morons who shout ‘mainstream media!’ than I do with morons who think elections are stolen.
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Mainstream media is a real thing and it's predominately controlled by #blueanon thought leaders. That isn't really all that hard to understand.
I mean, the NYT's fired it's editor for publishing a guest editorial from Tom Cotton . . . :lol: :lol: :lol:
As open minded as a closed rusty bear trap :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Unfortunately conspiracy right wing news is now mainstream so I have to agree with the public on this one.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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he's extra weepy today. I predict this will send him into a crying fit
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
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And I believe ok cat worked at a TV station, so maybe he went to JMC at K-State, but that only furthers my point, of a journalism lib hating that term and not believing in it. It's a thing.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
Earthy, granted. But what about organic? You need to be pretty well-heeled to shop at Whole Paycheck.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
Earthy, granted. But what about organic? You need to be pretty well-healed to shop at Whole Paycheck.
You definitely wouldn't want to be sick or injured if shopping there.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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This is some #slowdug level posting right here.
This has nothing to do with fake news.
I'm talking about the predominance of mainstream media and the individuals within having a left lean, and most of them are registered Democrats.
Again, don't be a #slowdug level DeflectoCon and stop with the strawman "fake news" bullshit. You're better than that.
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Ordinarily, Luttig told me, he wouldn’t get involved in a case like this. But Moore v. Harper, he explained, is the natural outgrowth of the extraordinary behind-the-scenes role he played in the final Götterdämmerung days of the Trump Presidency.
https://twitter.com/JaneMayerNYer/status/1582798296929619969
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Chum, please tell us your handle. I won't be satisfied leaving this earth, until I see the drivel you follow every day. :pray:
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In #blueanon world, it's always the end of Democracy if something happens they don't like or agree with . . .
#blueanon: A life triggered
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Chum, please tell us your handle. I won't be satisfied leaving this earth, until I see the drivel you follow every day. :pray:
I would, but I don't follow anyone like that. I just start with whatever liberal mainstream reporter comes to mind and go down rabbit holes from there.
I like Philip Bump, whose WaPo article on partisan views of threats to democracy you posted above. I thought it was good! Did you read it?
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:thumbs: I didn't.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
You post a lot of dumb crap and this is definitely one of them.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
You post a lot of dumb crap and this is definitely one of them.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/7/13/faculty-survey-political-leaning/
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I know you love yourself some Boston, bud!
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https://www.kpcnews.com/opinions/article_72a36307-576f-517e-8a43-64eb7f024e27.html
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Those ratios are closer to current day than when you attended, but I get not wanting to accept the truth. Sam Briwnbacks own daughter who went complete lib during my time at the university, which granted, I totally understand, got a pass for the headline “Synder retires!” at the collegian as the director editor of the newspaper. That’s not a wacky typo btw, everyone told us to shut up in class for her. #JMC
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Those ratios are closer to current day than when you attended, but I get not wanting to accept the truth. Sam Briwnbacks own daughter who went complete lib during my time at the university, which granted, I totally understand, got a pass for the headline “Synder retires!” at the collegian as the director editor of the newspaper. That’s not a wacky typo btw, everyone told us to shut up in class for her. #JMC
That's how you hold a grudge, folks
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The best to ever do it
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Those ratios are closer to current day than when you attended, but I get not wanting to accept the truth. Sam Briwnbacks own daughter who went complete lib during my time at the university, which granted, I totally understand, got a pass for the headline “Synder retires!” at the collegian as the director editor of the newspaper. That’s not a wacky typo btw, everyone told us to shut up in class for her. #JMC
That's how you hold a grudge, folks
Bro! It's the biggest story of our collegiate journalistic lives and our professors are telling us to cut her some slack for not catching the lead misspelling. :lol: Stop! It was hilarious!
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Also I couldn't help it but I did some googling and see who she married and no way in hell she's a lib
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Also I couldn't help it but I did some googling and see who she married and no way in hell she's a lib
Not sure if you know how politics work, but congrats on google. She was and was revolting hard back then.
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Lol, no.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
You post a lot of dumb crap and this is definitely one of them.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/7/13/faculty-survey-political-leaning/
Any of you want to address these numbers?
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The correlation between level of education and political affiliation seems pretty straightforward to me. Start with how MAGAs embrace and celebrate their ignorance and disinterest in things like facts and evidence.
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Educated people tend to be democrats while less educated people tend to be republicans. Not that hard, wacky.
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Dax, do you think all the ‘mainstream media’ get together and come up with a plan for fake news?
Like, I understand that there are several companies that own a lot of local news stations, but for the most part they work independently.
There isn’t a big conspiracy. I realize I typed this all for nothing and you’ll come back with a response using hilarious names, but just trying to help.
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Do you know how liberal journalism schools are and their professors? Holy crap, it's bad, man. But it's whatever. You have to be pretty earthy to live on 20-30K a year.
You post a lot of dumb crap and this is definitely one of them.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/7/13/faculty-survey-political-leaning/
Any of you want to address these numbers?
I wouldn't say it's necessarily bad, but J-schools have always leaned dem/liberal/prog more than your typical fields of study like mathematics, engineering, tech, business, etc. To be fair, they've been lapped in this regard by the social sciences.
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But "mainstream media!" :curse: IT'S NOT REAL!!! :lol: Now it's that 'pubs are just dumb. Nice heel turn, dorks. :lol:
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*strums guitar* we could all use a heal turn couldn't we
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But "mainstream media!" :curse: IT'S NOT REAL!!! :lol: Now it's that 'pubs are just dumb. Nice heel turn, dorks. :lol:
The last two years, minimum wage employees with no college education have been arguing that science is fake, news is fake, elections are fake, despite the evidence showing otherwise. Being dumb is kind of on-brand.
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Did anyone deny that the mainstream media leans left? Of course they do. You pretty much have to have a degree to work in that field.
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@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. :lol:
https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf
The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.
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@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. :lol:
https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf
The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.
Fanning, you’re not really helping your argument that maga pubs aren’t brain dead morons
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Just amazing . . .
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Ok cat, you said you hate the term "mainstream media" because it isn't real. It's rough ridin' real, bozo. I guess we're turning this into an education discussion now tho. :frown:
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So who won at kickball?
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Can we get this thread back on track? Democracy is (maybe) at stake.
Rob Reiner is convinced that our form of government will not last long unless everyone votes blue.
https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1583101969643675651
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Ok cat, you said you hate the term "mainstream media" because it isn't real. It's rough ridin' real, bozo. I guess we're turning this into an education discussion now tho. :frown:
ok cat, take the education argument. 'pubs will take the $ and lol at left leaning journalist!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/?sh=4898cdbb3e83
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guys shut up
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guys shut up
You!
https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1583110297069694976?s=20&t=HM0CfhxIcoV5wUYbxS3ZpA
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man i didn't realize rob reiner was such a chud on twitter
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https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1583101969643675651
Rob prob building an underground bunker in his back yard as we speak.
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The classic pinnacle of first world problems #blueanon Twitter screeds.
Probably material for some great cellphone chats rants for Rob as he drives from the during the week house in Brentwood, out to the Malibu weekend home.
So much angst, tho
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Apparently he played his IRL character in wolf of wall street when someone calls him during his programming and he flips his crap.
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Can we get this thread back on track? Democracy is (maybe) at stake.
Rob Reiner is convinced that our form of government will not last long unless everyone votes blue.
https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1583101969643675651
Red bs Blue is the reason for this season.
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I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.
But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.
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I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.
But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.
I think for most it's just the fear of the guy losing the election staying in power, anyway.
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I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.
But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.
I think for most it's just the fear of the guy losing the election staying in power, anyway.
Lol, correct. This shouldn't need to be stated.
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I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.
But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.
I mean, some are faced with voting blue or voting for an election denier to oversee state elections.
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There were 'election deniers' in the house after 2000 and 2004 and 2016. And probably tons of other times. There's always had to be a choice between voting for an 'election denier' or someone else.
It's just that 'election denier' is the new partisan pandering term meant to influence voters.
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There were 'election deniers' in the house after 2000 and 2004 and 2016. And probably tons of other times. There's always had to be a choice between voting for an 'election denier' or someone else.
It's just that 'election denier' is the new partisan pandering term meant to influence voters.
I don't think we've had 'election deniers' run for secretary of state before, though. The people in charge of elections have traditionally been pretty by the book.
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People who think Biden won the election can't win a republican primary.
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Oh Christ, _33. Yes, people have raised questions about particularly close elections since time and memoriam. (BTW, Trump's loss in 2020 wasn't particularly close.) However, it was not until now that we've seen a party make that belief a prerequisite for election to offices that actually oversee elections. Do you truly not understand the difference?
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Like I said though, none of them actually believe it. It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on. No biggie.
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Most of them actually believe it.
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Like I said though, none of them actually believe it. It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on. No biggie.
why do you think they don't believe it?
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There's a difference between the status of democracy and what people say about it. There are also differences between the types of people who say things about the status of democracy. And there are also differences between what people say about it. How obstinate do you have to be to be like, "these things are all the same."
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Like I said though, none of them actually believe it. It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on. No biggie.
I remember when I thought the Supreme Court wouldn't overturn Roe. I got an embarrassing amount of egg on my face, as a result.
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Also, if a house member votes against certifying an election, does it matter if he actually believes it was stolen?
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I mean, that article that Chum posted and that Wacky refused to read was about an actual case that is going to be heard by the Supreme Court about whether the future Trumps can make the future Pence not certify elections and what that means. If this doesn’t prove that this very thing is indeed up for action right now by powerful groups of ppl who actually believe it, then I am not sure what would.
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To be fair, I never read anything Chum links on here. I’m sure nobody reads my crap either. Ignorance is bliss kinda thing.
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To be fair, I never read anything Chum links on here. I’m sure nobody reads my crap either. Ignorance is bliss kinda thing.
You must be blissful
:D
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lol
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To be clear, it was wacky who posted the article that wacky himself did not read
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Also, if a house member votes against certifying an election, does it matter if he actually believes it was stolen?
it does not matter.
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You guys need to quit dog piling on _33 he’s just asking questions
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I don't think there was dog piling. And I should know because I've been dog piled (I hit a game winning shot at the buzzer in 7th grade bball no big deal)
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oh crap that was you?!?!
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@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. :lol:
https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf
The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.
I called you dumb for intimating that supposed liberal college professors influence media coverage.
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@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. :lol:
https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf
The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.
I called you dumb for intimating that supposed liberal college professors influence media coverage.
Liberals do. Liberal professors push their agenda too. It all meshes together in todays mainstream media. Remember when daily press conferences were like must watch TV under Trump? Amazing how that vanished under Biden. Dude can't even find his way off the stage or know whos alive and actively working on the hill, but the media gives him softballs, because orange man bad is gone. :dunno:
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double down on the crazy
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(https://media.tenor.com/g7nzxqrG9GIAAAAC/girl-sure-jan.gif)
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
These chicks got it way worse than these chicks. They all said equally dumb crap, but got covered differently by the media and SNL. Spot the difference.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox29.com/www.fox29.com/content/uploads/2022/09/764/432/Sarah-Sanders.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/05/01/gettyimages-1211465069_wide-8228304b4a2879e3d54b25aa70819b8e41747b15-s1100-c50.jpg)
Vs.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/05/05/USAT/de176efa-3a99-406c-a43c-03837b2deb34-AP_Biden_Press_Secretary.jpg)
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I disagree Dream Weaver. I think the White House Press Conferences were must watch TV under the previous administration for a couple reasons, but that may be better discussed in a different thread.
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
These chicks got it way worse than these chicks. They all said equally dumb crap, but got covered differently by the media and SNL. Spot the difference.
:lol: this crap is hilarious. You don't even watch press conferences, all you know about them are from Clay tweets when he cuts half of the exchanges with Doocy.
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
These chicks got it way worse than these chicks. They all said equally dumb crap, but got covered differently by the media and SNL. Spot the difference.
:lol: this crap is hilarious. You don't even watch press conferences, all you know about them are from Clay tweets when he cuts half of the exchanges with Doocy.
I'd like to report a murder
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:confused:
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If SNL can’t lampoon both sides evenly then democracy is in fact dead, you guys.
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If SNL can’t lampoon both sides evenly then democracy is in fact dead, you guys.
Huh? :confused:
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The best part is watching our current White House spokesperson go pure Biden and shuffle through the note cards looking for the default pre-scripted response.
#blueanon: Democracy is always at stake when we don’t get our way
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
These chicks got it way worse than these chicks. They all said equally dumb crap, but got covered differently by the media and SNL. Spot the difference.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox29.com/www.fox29.com/content/uploads/2022/09/764/432/Sarah-Sanders.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/05/01/gettyimages-1211465069_wide-8228304b4a2879e3d54b25aa70819b8e41747b15-s1100-c50.jpg)
Vs.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/05/05/USAT/de176efa-3a99-406c-a43c-03837b2deb34-AP_Biden_Press_Secretary.jpg)
Just directly referencing the words you just typed WokeyCat let me know if you need any additional clarification. Hope that helps!
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Press spokesmen are all huge liars, they do it to varying abilities. The difference with the Trump people is the absurd theatre of what lies trump would make them tell like Sean Spicer trying to say the inauguration crowd was the biggest and best ever.
None of that matters really except it makes liberals feel bad because they think the West Wing is real.
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You know the president schedules press conferences, right? The media can't cover them every day if he isn't dumb enough to put himself in front of a camera every day.
These chicks got it way worse than these chicks. They all said equally dumb crap, but got covered differently by the media and SNL. Spot the difference.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox29.com/www.fox29.com/content/uploads/2022/09/764/432/Sarah-Sanders.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/05/01/gettyimages-1211465069_wide-8228304b4a2879e3d54b25aa70819b8e41747b15-s1100-c50.jpg)
Vs.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/05/05/USAT/de176efa-3a99-406c-a43c-03837b2deb34-AP_Biden_Press_Secretary.jpg)
Just directly referencing the words you just typed WokeyCat let me know if you need any additional clarification. Hope that helps!
I never said democracy was dead because most media leans heavy left tho. I was just presenting a fact about our current state of politics/media. You picked and chose the thread title and mixed it up with a side conversation. Drink some water, bud.
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Very cool behavior
https://twitter.com/NicoleSGrigg/status/1583663180013674497
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Please ignore if you're one of the posters here who doesn't believe that things can vary in degree or happen incrementally.
https://twitter.com/Milbank/status/1583557612033146880
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The only reason I saw this video is because it was a reply right under that article on Twitter. Will the Russians try to interfere again and put democracy at stake? Hopefully they are too busy with the war and stuff.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1566463210957455364
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I wonder who the democrats will try to hang at the capitol if the election doesn't go their way.
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I wonder who the democrats will try to hang at the capitol if the election doesn't go their way.
That was just political posturing
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If the vote doesn’t go #blueanon’s way the illegitimate subterfuge will begin immediately. Complete with claims of hacking, voter suppression coupled with wild conspiracy theories and lots of talk of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Many urban neighborhoods will be reduced to smoldering ruins (again).
See also 2016 - See also groundwork being laid by icons of the #blueanon movement for 2022/2024
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Ken (not Kenn) has entered the chat
Nicname —
I've spent more than four decades making films that tell America’s stories, and examining the crises – internal and external – that we have faced as a nation, including threats to our democracy.
From the Civil War to the Great Depression, from the First and Second World Wars to the COVID-19 pandemic, these crises have challenged us to live up to the essential promise of our nation, preserving a democratic system of government that respects the rights and addresses the needs of all its citizens.
Today, challenges to our republic are rampant, the democratic values that make up the very fabric of our nation are under assault and at risk of unraveling. It’s never been more important to safeguard our fragile democracy: as Benjamin Franklin so wisely put it, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
That’s why I’m reaching out. With a 50-50 split in the Senate, the fate of our Democratic majority—and our very democracy—hinges on what happens in New Hampshire and Wisconsin.
Maggie Hassan is a vital voice in the Senate, and we cannot afford to lose her tireless work on behalf of Granite Staters—and in fact all Americans. This November, she's up against a far-right election denier who believes a woman’s most personal decisions about abortion—decisions about her own body—belong in the hands of Republican “gentlemen” lawmakers.
Our country stands at a crossroads, and it's up to us to decide which direction we’ll take. Either we plunge down the path of extremism that Maggie's opponent has taken, or we choose the other way—the higher road—and come together to support leaders like Maggie who will fight to protect our future.
Maggie won her last race by just 1,017 votes. That was one of the closest margins in American history. And Republicans are targeting her race with $55 million in attack ads. With just 12 days left until the election, we need to have the resources necessary to turn out every last vote.
So I'm asking you now, Nicname: will you help meet this moment by splitting a donation between Maggie Hassan and Mandela Barnes today?
Thank you,
Ken
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https://twitter.com/annalecta/status/1709950683749797997
I wasn't sure where to post. These people are just fancy whores.
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Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?
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Have we kept democracy though? :th_twocents:
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I think so. But I rarely watch the news so you'd know better than me.
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this is the most important election of our lifetime
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We'll decide what is/isn't democracy based on whether we get our way or not . . . #blueanon
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Only one of the candidates running in the current election has tried to throw out the election results in the world's oldest and most powerful democracy!
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Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?
Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.
So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.
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Only one of the candidates running in the current election has tried to throw out the election results in the world's oldest and most powerful democracy!
Posted by a member of a party who has challenged the election results of every Pub win since Reagan and worked triple time to delegitmize the win in 2016 while openly calling for a total restructuring of the election process as outlined by the founders of our nation because they didn't get the results they wanted (while also calling for fascistic dictatorial control of the nations highest court)
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Is democracy even worth saving?
https://youtu.be/Zx-693s3PZc
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Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?
Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.
So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.
Phew! Close one!
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#blueanon - we tend to start calling for impeachment about 8 to 12 days into a new Pub presidential term.
But Democracy and everything, tho
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Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?
Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.
So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.
Phew! Close one!
Yep. Lucky for all of us that Pence did not do what Trump asked him to do.
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this thread is a fun read
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Democracy is not at stake yet…we are objectively not yet in a constitutional crisis. If the Supreme Court rules on something (or strategically chooses not to weigh in and instead defer to a lower court’s ruling), and Trump goes against them, then we will officially be in a constitutional crisis, and democracy will be at stake.
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Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.
https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059
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does CPAC just like, have a convention every week or what?
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Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.
https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059
Very very very concerning, but until we have a Supreme Court decision(s) and a chance to watch Trump react, everyone is forced to wait and watch.
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I like Pete's new coping mechanism of being optimistic. I've chosen apathy.
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Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.
https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059
Very very very concerning, but until we have a Supreme Court decision(s) and a chance to watch Trump react, everyone is forced to wait and watch.
Not gEing here. I really appreciate your optimism.
Congress has already relinquished all of their power to the presidency. It is basically just a forum where they generate sound bites attacking or supporting the president based on who is in/out of the White House.
Not sure we should expect the current admin to abide by SCOTUS rulings that are at odds with "Saving the Country."
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It's adorable that some of you seem to think scotus is adversarial to trump.
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Yeah, I just don't see how the supreme court giving a ringing endorsement of everything Trump does, no matter what it is would be saving democracy.
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To answer OP: yes
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/trump-el-salvador-deportations-immigrants.html
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If the question is: are we doing the same types of crap that nascent dictatorships do?
Then the answer is: yes, definitely. Without question.
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Viewers of this blog are once again reminded that #blueanon/#blueanongE fully supports/supported:
-An administration that put the Patriot Act on steroids
-An administration that gave itself permission to propagandize the population (multiple wings of that mechanism are being dismantled - thankfully, one just yesterday in fact. Lead by a person who believes that government propaganda is good)
-A leader of a government funded broadcast system who believes that the got damn truth often gets in the way of a good story and/or getting things done
-An administration that practiced extrajudicial assassinations of US citizens
-An administration that floated the concept of indefinite detention of US citizens without charge
-A movement that is filled with political apparatchiks and thought leaders who regularly espouse the need to intern self perceived political enemies
-A movement that openly talks about assassination (again)
-An administration that outsourced censorship of US citizens to foreign NGO's and intelligence agencies
-An administration that attempted to create a ministry of truth
-An administration that had a secret domestic terrorism plan that reads like something you'd find in 1939 Germany only instead of Jews - It's targeting their self perceived political enemies
Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
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Now do openly defying 9-0 Supreme Court orders.
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There's all kinds of mechanisms to fight that cat . . . that's out in the open for all to see.
Cat: A perpetual state of DerpCon One
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A survey of more than 500 political scientists finds that the vast majority think the United States is moving swiftly from liberal democracy toward some form of authoritarianism.
In the benchmark survey, known as Bright Line Watch, U.S.-based professors rate the performance of American democracy on a scale from zero (complete dictatorship) to 100 (perfect democracy). After President Trump's election in November, scholars gave American democracy a rating of 67. Several weeks into Trump's second term, that figure plummeted to 55.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5340753/trump-democracy-authoritarianism-competive-survey-political-scientist
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Until they start deporting whites without a trial, I still say "no"