Trying to be somewhat realistic. I don't think he'd leave, but would take.I know. I'm not well versed in the coaching game to know who is poachable and who is not. Aside from the obvious non options. Just wanted to give Bennett some love. He's a suave fellow.
Underwood is the obvs answer. The expensive buyout would pay for itself after a few successful seasons.Am I alone in the do not want realm? I'm still not sold on him as a P5 head coach.
Underwood is the obvs answer. The expensive buyout would pay for itself after a few successful seasons.Am I alone in the do not want realm? I'm still not sold on him as a P5 head coach.
Underwood is the obvs answer. The expensive buyout would pay for itself after a few successful seasons.Am I alone in the do not want realm? I'm still not sold on him as a P5 head coach.
I would agree that he hasn't proven himself, but I still would love to have him.
Underwood is the obvs answer. The expensive buyout would pay for itself after a few successful seasons.Am I alone in the do not want realm? I'm still not sold on him as a P5 head coach.
I would agree that he hasn't proven himself, but I still would love to have him.
He seems to have Okie State playing well as of late.
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underwoods buyout is insane as has been mentioned.
firmly on the mayor if the bulls keep tanking
I'd take Archie Miller over Underwood.
everyone who claims currie shouldn't be shot in the head claims that he's some amazing donation whisperer as their justification. if he can raise 7 million to payoff his stupidity in not hiring underwood, then perhaps he can be allowed to continue raising funds for kstate.
Mark Gottfried is now available :(
Kelvin Sampson is the obvious answer
if he can successfully go tell a bunch of people that they need to give him a million dollars or so to go hire the guy he was too stupid to hire a year ago when everyone in the world knew he needed to go hire him, then he probably is pretty good at soliciting donations.
We could be Tom Crean's soft landing! Which side does Jim take in the Sunflower Showdown?
Jank is a shittier version of oscar.Yeah, I never realized he was that bad as a non-assistant. Woof!
The top would be Hoiberg.
The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.
The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.
The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.
Thunder Dan!
Why not Lon?
The top would be Hoiberg.
The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.
The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.
The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.
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Best candidates would be Clint Kinnamon and/or Kurt Kinnamon.
The top would be Hoiberg.
The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.
The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.
The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.
Archie Miller is holding out for a top 10 job. Replace his name with Chris Holtmann
what's the board's opinion on hiring perry ellis?
The top would be Hoiberg.
The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.
The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.
The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.
Archie Miller is holding out for a top 10 job. Replace his name with Chris Holtmann
http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/miller-highest-paid-coach-atlantic/2f8Jru3hw6UF6JAZzehtgP/
you think if we offered to double his salary which isn't too much for us, he still wouldn't come?
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what's the board's opinion on hiring perry ellis?
Too old
Lowery.
Only Archie Miller:He must be an amazing coach. I just went through their last 5 recruiting classes. Only two 4 Stars and the rest are 3 or unranked.
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I love him, but i'm pretty sure he's going back to his alumni this year.
I love him, but i'm pretty sure he's going back to his alumni this year.No. His last quote that I read stated he was grateful for NCSU but life happens and you form your own way and that's where he is.
I could care less about beating KU. I want rankings, being in the running for confys, and runs in the tourney. KU wins will help, but it doesn't move the needle for me more than any other win.
oscar gets term'd, and then after some reflection, hired back to replace himself.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18400144/struggling-south-florida-fires-men-basketball-coach-orlando-antigua
This would be a good job for oscar. Warm weather to semi retire. No expectations. He does run a clean program. He likes to recruit Florida. Good lawnmowing.
Marshall is super unlikeable tho. No thanks.Why not Lon?
Gregg Marshall has earned his opportunity to coach in a power 5 conference and I think oscar could do well for a few seasons down in Wichita. Sometimes stars just align. :Carl:
Delete thread. oscar is here forever.
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Delete thread. oscar is here forever.
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Not so fast, but this helped him immensely.
We'll see what he can do against Brad.
Delete thread. oscar is here forever.
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Not so fast, but this helped him immensely.
We'll see what he can do against Brad.
I wouldn't say he helped himself immensely, he held serve, UT is awful.
He's two wins away from an NCAAT birth now. I 100% would say he helped himself immensely.
Would Currie replace oscar with another oscar (that he helped hired before)?
Just a random thought I had today. They have the connection and oscar has seemed to keep his nose clean at his new gig.
Would Currie replace oscar with another oscar (that he helped hired before)?
Just a random thought I had today. They have the connection and oscar has seemed to keep his nose clean at his new gig.
Forbes.
He was one of Pearl's assistants at Tennessee too.
Theory: Currie recognizes his miss on bringing back an EMAW last year, fires oscar, brings in Jank.
At what point does telling the same joke over and over again get super old?No one's laughing. :frown:
Yes, Currie is going to hire someone shitty we all hate. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
It's been acknowledged and laughed at, now can we stop reading a different variation of the same joke 68,346 times a day?
mir, what chance would you give currie of hiring someone that will have more success at kstate than underwood will have at osu over the next 5 years?
mir, what chance would you give currie of hiring someone that will have more success at kstate than underwood will have at osu over the next 5 years?
That's an excellent question. If done right I would say better than 50/50. I think Sampson is a better coach than Brad and there will be coaches to be had who have accomplished as much as Brad has like, Holtmann. The difficulty with this question is we still have no idea what's Brad's capacity to build a program. He didn't build a program at SFA, he dominated a bad conference for two years. Right now Brad is no more proven than lets say Paul Hewitt was when he went to Georgia Tech.
I'm interested in how you and others think about this, it's really an excellent hypothetical.
I want Kelvin.
I'm interested in how you and others think about this.
It is almost like running off a successful coach and then hiring a coach that just got fired from another job -- and then not firing said fired coach when beloved former assistant alum was ripe for the picking after huge low/mid-major success -- did hurt the image of our program after all.
At what point does telling the same joke over and over again get super old?
Yes, Currie is going to hire someone shitty we all hate. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
It's been acknowledged and laughed at, now can we stop reading a different variation of the same joke 68,346 times a day?
It is almost like running off a successful coach and then hiring a coach that just got fired from another job -- and then not firing said fired coach when beloved former assistant alum was ripe for the picking after huge low/mid-major success -- did hurt the image of our program after all.
eff Currie. He's killed my basketball program. I'm not sure it's ever coming back.
This sounds like a good fit for us.
Jeff Lebo, East Carolina
Lebo has been a head coach for 18 straight seasons (at four different schools) yet has never had a team reach the NCAA Tournament. And only twice (at Tennessee Tech in 2002 and Auburn 2009) has his team earned an NIT bid. In his six seasons at East Carolina, the Pirates are 99–100 overall and 37–63 in league games (four in C-USA, two in AAC).
good grief man, step off of the ledgeIt is almost like running off a successful coach and then hiring a coach that just got fired from another job -- and then not firing said fired coach when beloved former assistant alum was ripe for the picking after huge low/mid-major success -- did hurt the image of our program after all.
eff Currie. He's killed my basketball program. I'm not sure it's ever coming back.
This sounds like a good fit for us.
Jeff Lebo, East Carolina
Lebo has been a head coach for 18 straight seasons (at four different schools) yet has never had a team reach the NCAA Tournament. And only twice (at Tennessee Tech in 2002 and Auburn 2009) has his team earned an NIT bid. In his six seasons at East Carolina, the Pirates are 99–100 overall and 37–63 in league games (four in C-USA, two in AAC).
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: good one chum, killed it!
I would say Forbes needs a strong look.
Time for Currie to move on, let's name an alum with a good head, a business mind and cares about athletics to take over as interim AD to lead search for new AD, assess internal candidates in the process and lead search for new bball coach.
Somebody who doesn't just write checks because of marketing slogans, but who writes checks expecting the money to help improve results and has real, yet reasonable expectations.
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Time for Currie to move on, let's name an alum with a good head
This sounds like a good fit for us.
Jeff Lebo, East Carolina
Lebo has been a head coach for 18 straight seasons (at four different schools) yet has never had a team reach the NCAA Tournament. And only twice (at Tennessee Tech in 2002 and Auburn 2009) has his team earned an NIT bid. In his six seasons at East Carolina, the Pirates are 99–100 overall and 37–63 in league games (four in C-USA, two in AAC).
Indiana Basketball – Five reasons Tom Crean should stay and another five he should go
by Kent Sterling
February 25, 2017
Indiana coach Tom Crean has three years left on his contract.
Indiana Athletic Director Fred Glass will wait until the season ends and then evaluate the basketball program. The decision will be made to either retain Tom Crean as the basketball coach or relieve him of his responsibilities.
There are two sects of Indiana Basketball fans – those who view Crean as the hero of IU hoops who rode in on a white horse to save the program during its darkest moment with diligence and excellent recruiting, and those who see him as an overmatched schemer whose hyperactivity and inability to teach defense has frustrated players and fans.
Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
Indiana will play the final home game of a very disappointing season tonight against Northwestern, a team enjoying its finest year. Indiana is 5-10, in 13th place among 14 teams in the Big 10.
For many fans who spend the majority of their idle time ruminating about Indiana Basketball, the result of a season that began with such promise is unacceptable.
Let’s take a quick look at the pros and cons or firing and retaining Crean to see if we can find a little clarity or common ground. Here are five reasons – in no particular order – to hold on to Crean:
Who is a better replacement? The names being thrown around as the next coach are either pie in the sky pipe dreams or uninspiring. Brad Stevens (Celtics), Steve Alford (UCLA), Archie Miller (Dayton), Tony Bennett (Virginia), Chris Mack (Xavier), Dane Fife (assistant at Michigan State), Will Wade (VCU), and Kevin Keatts (UNC Wilmington) are among the names that come to mind as potential leaders, but do any give you the notion that a sixth banner is right around the corner? Maybe one of them would either agree to come or provide IU with its next great coach.
Injuries robbed this Indiana team of chance to succeed. Collin Hartman would have brought steady delivery of fundamentals and leadership, and O.G. Anunoby can defend all five spots as an athletic freak. James Blackmon Jr. was gone for a few games too. With a healthy roster, Indiana might have been good enough. With Hartman healthy, it can be assumed that IU would have been one point better @ IPFW – a game lost in overtime). With Hartman and Anunoby playing, they likely would have been a bucket better against Minnesota and a point better than Iowa. By being four points better, Indiana would be 18-10 and 7-8 in the Big 10, and inside the bubble for the NCAA Tournament. It’s likely IU might have found a way to be a bit better than that.
Indiana has won two Big 10 championships in last five seasons. The NCAA Tournament is a crapshoot, and winning four straight games in March to advance to the Final Four is tough. Winning more Big 10 games than anyone else in the conference is a test of basketball and intestinal fortitude.
Hoosiers program better today than 10, 15, or 20 years ago. After Damon Bailey’s graduation, Indiana under Bob Knight started recruiting all over the place, and the result was an uneven mess. Mike Davis was unready to lead IU by his own admission. Kelvin Sampson was an amoral and corrupt leader (according to NCAA rules at the time) of a previously pious and chaste program. Crean inherited a mess, and cobbled together rosters that became very competitive in his fourth season. From 1995-2012, Indiana advanced to one Sweet 16 and shared one Big 10 regular season championship. From 2013-2016, Indiana won two Big 10 titles outright, and has advanced to three Sweet 16s.
Maybe this is as good as it gets for IU. Indiana is not Louisville, Kentucky, North Carolina, or Duke. It’s also not the consistent winner that Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Michigan are. A close comp over the past six years is West Virginia. Is there a coach out there like John Calipari was after the grim and brief Billy Gillespie era at Kentucky, or a Roy Williams following Matt Doherty and Bill Guthridge at UNC who can resurrect Indiana to it’s former greatness?
Okay, let’s compare the reasons to keep Crean with some that call for a regime change:
Style does not sync with Indiana heritage. Even when winning, Indiana fans are baffled by the Hoosiers inability to defend and take care of the ball. For generations Indiana players appeared smarter and better prepared to compete than their opponents. Today’s Hoosiers either out-talent opponents or lose.
Crean can no longer recruit Indiana. Four high school seniors from Indiana are ranked in the top 30 nationally, and none will play for Indiana. IU continues to offer Indiana kids, but none seems as keen on playing in Bloomington as Cody Zeller or Yogi Ferrell were. If Crean can’t recruit the home state hot bed, how can they compete with the programs that can. Gary Harris, Trey Lyles, Zak Irvin, Caleb Swanigan, and Kyle Guy would have helped Indiana win games if not championships.
Incoming class not a game changer. Clifton Moore, Al Durham, and Justin Smith are doubtless nice young men who have a great talent to play basketball, but they comprise a recruiting class not ranked in the top 40 in the country. Their arrival will coincide with the almost certain departure of Anunoby, Blackmon, and Thomas Bryant. Fans are not bullish that brighter days are ahead based upon the current state of Crean’s recruiting.
Alternative to firing is an extension. If Crean is invited to return to Bloomington by not being asked to leave, he will have three years remaining on his contract, and as his buyout drops to $1-million on July 1st, he will ask for an extension that rewards him for the success that had been lacking for 15 years prior to his arrival. Can Indiana justify extending the contract of a coach whose presence in Bloomington has motivated thousands of empty seats in Assembly Hall over the last month.
Failed to post winning Big 10 record three of last four seasons. Indiana’s record over the last four Big 10 seasons is 36-33 with three non-winning seasons. That is a mediocre result that includes one very nice 15-3 season. Taking the unfair step of removing the 2016 campaign, Indiana is 21-30 in conference play in 2014, 2015, and 2017. If past is prologue, the future looks dim indeed.
The distilled result of the five reasons to replace Crean is an apathy among longtime fans and donors that might compel action.
basketball is so easy to turn around that its laughable.. sustaining success is a different animal thoughIt is almost like running off a successful coach and then hiring a coach that just got fired from another job -- and then not firing said fired coach when beloved former assistant alum was ripe for the picking after huge low/mid-major success -- did hurt the image of our program after all.
eff Currie. He's killed my basketball program. I'm not sure it's ever coming back.
basketball is so easy to turn around that its laughable.. sustaining success is a different animal though
I'm ok with us hiring an AAU coach at this point every 2 years or an AAU coach as an asst.basketball is so easy to turn around that its laughable.. sustaining success is a different animal though
This is true.
A month or so ago when things started going south on this season, I read multiple fans talking about how firing oscar would set the program back 3-5 years. That's just not true, look at Dixon and Brad this year for examples. The right coach can come in and compete for an NCAA tournament next year, but can they build and maintain the program?
We might also want to accept that fact that we have become a consistent "basketball coach stop over" program. No coach has been here longer than 6 years since Hartman retired 30 years ago (and we fired both of the 6 year guys). 30 years with an average coaching stay of about 4.3 years. It is what we are at this point.
We might also want to accept that fact that we have become a consistent "basketball coach stop over" program. No coach has been here longer than 6 years since Hartman retired 30 years ago (and we fired both of the 6 year guys). 30 years with an average coaching stay of about 4.3 years. It is what we are at this point.
For what I feel are realistic choices (that would come here), Kelvin is the top of my list. But we probably wouldn't hire him.had some discussion this morning on tim jank., thoughts? i like the 5 guard speed play just as an entertainment value but i have no clue how good of a coach he actually is
After that, I'm probably all in on Forbes.
After that, no idea.
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any super cute assistants at high-majors this year? I'd say Capel but he fell flat on his face with Coach K out.I don't want a squawk, but I guess I'd take a squawk.
CB McGrath :dunno:
we need to go fight NC State for Kevin Keatts, probs won't happen
Kansas vs the Carolinas :lol:we need to go fight NC State for Kevin Keatts, probs won't happen
Mrs. Keats ain't moving to Kansas, unless two Brinks trucks full of McScrouge gold is following the moving van.
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Kansas vs the Carolinas :lol:we need to go fight NC State for Kevin Keatts, probs won't happen
Mrs. Keats ain't moving to Kansas, unless two Brinks trucks full of McScrouge gold is following the moving van.
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Has anyone tried to hire Randy Bennett away from St Mary's?
http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Basketball/2017/03/01/ETSU-doles-out-bonus-to-keep-Forbes.html?ci=stream&lp=2&p=p
Lock the thread up until next year.Let's see if he Frank's 1st on senior night at home. That would be telling.
Lock the thread up until next year.
Lock the thread up until next year.
I was wondering who was going to be the first person was going to be who knew the decision of our non-existent athletic director.
Find me an example of any AD in the history of college athletics who within the first month of their job fired a basketball coach who made the NCAAT that same season, or an acting/interim AD who has fired a coach after making the tournament.Lock the thread up until next year.
I was wondering who was going to be the first person was going to be who knew the decision of our non-existent athletic director.
Find me an example of any AD in the history of college athletics who within the first month of their job fired a basketball coach who made the NCAAT that same season, or an acting/interim AD who has fired a coach after making the tournament.Lock the thread up until next year.
I was wondering who was going to be the first person was going to be who knew the decision of our non-existent athletic director.
Find me an example of any AD in the history of college athletics who within the first month of their job fired a basketball coach who made the NCAAT that same season, or an acting/interim AD who has fired a coach after making the tournament.Lock the thread up until next year.
I was wondering who was going to be the first person was going to be who knew the decision of our non-existent athletic director.
I think people should prepare for what's coming though.
If oscar somehow wins the next 2 (Tech and BU/ISU/WVU) he likely goes dancing. Laird is not going to fire that and everyone knows it.
But he may lose to Tech at home.
Who knows?
Want oscar gone before we hire an AD? Cheer for him to win to make him more attractive to a mid-major suitor. There will be a lot of non P5 jobs open up between now and when we hire an AD.
Why would oscar leave for a mid major?
Can you imagine the level of apathy and angst surrounding this program if Oscar came back next year?
Apparently professionals that get paid six to seven figures a year to figure these things out can't imagine, but we have it nailed.
He would be better off money wise letting himself not get extended (if he believed that is even a possibility). The mid major job is there for him anyway. No need to waste a year of major conference salary.
Interest would be fine. They'll build up a good record in an easy non-con and win enough to keep fan interest decent throughout conference play. Just like this year.Can you imagine the level of apathy and angst surrounding this program if Oscar came back next year?
Apparently professionals that get paid six to seven figures a year to figure these things out can't imagine, but we have it nailed.
It certainly won't be worse than it would be for Steve Forbes or some mid major coach I've never heard of.
I'd say it's better than 50%.He would be better off money wise letting himself not get extended (if he believed that is even a possibility). The mid major job is there for him anyway. No need to waste a year of major conference salary.
Any guesses an the percentage he gets extended? My guess is roughly 3%. Then he's going into another season where he's going to have to replace at least two players from a seven man rotation, at least a small rebuild from a team that snuck into the tournament. I don't know how much he believes in himself but how can next season be anything but a death march?
I think people should prepare for what's coming though.
If oscar somehow wins the next 2 (Tech and BU/ISU/WVU) he likely goes dancing. Laird is not going to fire that and everyone knows it.
But he may lose to Tech at home.
Who knows?
What are the odds of winning both of those games, though? 1/8 maybe?
I'd be ok with Forbes, too. I'm just saying he's not going to make a major bump in fan support next year compared to retaining oscar.It certainly won't be worse than it would be for Steve Forbes or some mid major coach I've never heard of.
I'd be okay with Forbes, but he vs Weber is probably a wash when you just look at basketball results. I just want Weber gone because I'm tired of him.
Things I hate besides losing:
I hate how he has to be on the court pointing to spots for his players to stand
Things I hate besides losing:
I hate how he has to be on the court pointing to spots for his players to stand
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/837302328109649920
Things I hate besides losing:
I hate how he has to be on the court pointing to spots for his players to stand
I hate how you can hear him yell "Barry" or whoever when we are on the other end, over over
I hate his ExBruces with a passion
I hate how he doesn't cuss at the refs, cause you know, he is a nice guy
Things I hate besides losing:
I hate how he has to be on the court pointing to spots for his players to stand
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/837302328109649920
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/837302328109649920
Has the thing with him constantly shouting "BOX OUT" while the opponent shoots free throws been mentioned? It may be the bush league-ist thing any college basketball coach does on a routine basis.
Lock the thread up until next year.
The school has been gauging the interest of potential candidates for the past few weeks, sources told ESPN. California's Cuonzo Martin is among the names on their list. Dan Parker & Associates have been retained to handle the search for a replacement, sources told ESPN.
This hot board is sizzlin'.Looks just like ours would/will
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0 (https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0)
We'll have much lower expectations. I've already read on this board that guys like Steve Forbes and the UNC-Wilmington guy are out of our league.This hot board is sizzlin'.Looks just like ours would/will
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0 (https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0)
This hot board is sizzlin'.
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0 (https://missouri.rivals.com/news/hoops-hot-board-v1-0)
I would think Cronin would want out of the AAC, not sure a job west of the Mississippi is right for him
I would think Cronin would want out of the AAC, not sure a job west of the Mississippi is right for him
I'd take Archie Miller over Underwood.
You don't want to do that.
Forbes sounds intriguing. Why hire him? Why not hire him?
Forbes sounds intriguing. Why hire him? Why not hire him?
because he would be acceptably intriguing enough that i would root for kstate to win in games he coached. because he's not brad underwood.
why on god's green earth would that bother me? they do a great job at wsu and play angry is the best thing in college basketball.
i do.
we can't do better than a 3rd year head coach from the southern conference :lol:
People that are enamored with Forbes and think Jank is terrible are weird to me.
Glad we all agree Steve Henson is bad.
People that are enamored with Forbes and think Jank is terrible are weird to me.
Glad we all agree Steve Henson is bad.
The top would be Hoiberg.
The best Huggins type hire is Sampson.
The best K-State connection hire is obviously Brad. Some may say Jank or the real big reach of Steve Henson.
The best up and comer coach is tougher. Archie Miller is clearly the best, but a long shot. Will Wade (Shaka's replacement at VCU) has had success, but at only 2 years each at 2 schools). Kevin Keatts at UNC Willmington looks like he might be a solid young coach. Some might say Dan Muller at Illinois State, but this is really his first really good year. I'm sure there are others and someone will only become an up and comer when they win a NCAA game or two as underdogs.
in the battle of the steves, i just don't see a big difference between the two career assistants. what is it that makes forbes so much different than henson?
forbes did do really well at Tennessee until that show cause arrived. but really, no one really knows the roll henson had in kruger's recruiting. i'd have to think that kruger's top assistant played some roll in recruiting though, don't you?
This thread is gonna be really long by March 2018.......... :buh-bye:
The only coach mentioned itt that would piss me off is Tom Crean.
forbes bounces around a lot, it seems like every couple years he's on to something new. that's not concerning? how much credit can we give him for impacting a program when he's only been at a place a year.
How do we feel about Thad Matta?I thought we were done hiring people who were (could) be fired for being losers?
You're kidding, right?How do we feel about Thad Matta?I thought we were done hiring people who were (could) be fired for being losers?
I still want Gregg :don'tcare:
I still want Gregg :don'tcare:
Why do people here hate him as a candidate? I never caught wind of it
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I heard rumors that Fred Hoiberg might get fired by the bulls this year?I don't have the slightest clue on probability of a purple Hoib, but would love it so hard
I still want Gregg :don'tcare:
Why do people here hate him as a candidate? I never caught wind of it
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No one hates him as a candidate here. He is a gigantic dickhead and he would have a very hard time in an athletic department where he doesn't call all of the shots. All that being said if we landed him there would be universal praise. However, no one is talking about him because we all remember that he very publicly turned down the Texas job last year, he isn't coming here.
I've always hated the name Thad MattaThad is a really shitty name. I mean, it's like Todd but way worse. Todd gets to make fun of Thad's name. Let that sink in.
P5 football $
We actually care - 4k student section at midcourt
Facilities
oscar is not a tough act to follow
I guess :AA: is all we got for Mrs K