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Title: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: renocat on January 22, 2017, 08:53:55 PM
3 of next 4 are on the road.  @ Tennessee should be a win.  The Iowa whirlies scare me, but IMO.50/50.   Baylor.  But things do happen in the Big 12.  So how tough will ISU be?
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 22, 2017, 10:39:58 PM
Is tenn any good?
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Post by: That_Guy on January 22, 2017, 11:23:00 PM
Is tenn any good?

They're 10-9 and play Kentucky on Tuesday.


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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 23, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
I just watched a video of ISU Coach Prohm.  He seemed concerned about playing us.  Most cyclone furoms freaking about Claws and DJamer.
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Post by: SdK on January 23, 2017, 11:46:25 PM
Is tenn any good?

They're 10-9 and play Kentucky on Tuesday.


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So another l
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Post by: SdK on January 23, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
Can we just pencil all games VS UK in as an L
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Post by: SdK on January 23, 2017, 11:47:27 PM
Thanks
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Post by: That_Guy on January 24, 2017, 12:17:29 AM
Can we just pencil all games VS UK in as an L

I basically did that with a friend a few years ago. Bet Kentucky would go undefeated regular season one drunken night in the 'Ville. Good friend, dude paid up. $100. If I loss I only had to pay $10.


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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2017, 12:27:46 AM
Iowa State believes we are tough minded.
Ihttp://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_3a2a4ade-e1bc-11e6-b56e-7b6f0fc1843b.hall
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2017, 07:46:01 AM
We are ranked as the.second best ttotal.defensive team in the league and 4th in total offense.  This shows promise to.me.
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 08:16:25 AM
We are ranked as the.second best ttotal.defensive team in the league and 4th in total offense.  This shows promise to.me.

You are reading dumb stats that probably don't take into account tempo.

At this point there is no valid measure that says our defense is good. We have the 8th efficiency defense in the league (1.08 ppp), 9th eFG% defense (54.7%), worst 3PT% defense (44.2%), and 8th OR% (allowing 36.2%). Fortunately we lead in forcing TOs (24.6%) and are 3rd in 2PT% defense (48.8%). We have a long way to go on defense and if we don't get better we will be fortunate to win 9 league games.
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Post by: Steffy08 on January 24, 2017, 09:21:39 AM
If we steal a win in Ames, I am back to being officially emotionally invested in this team again.

Even if we don't win tonight, I think we beat Tennessee on Saturday.
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 24, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
If we steal a win in Ames, I am back to being officially emotionally invested in this team again.

Even if we don't win tonight, I think we beat Tennessee on Saturday.
We are better than an L tonight

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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 09:46:20 AM
We can beat ISU and this would be another big step for this team, but I'm not jumping off if ISU beats us.

Both teams have bad eFG% defenses. Both teams force turnovers at a high rate. ISU's biggest strength offensively is not turning it over (they lead the league), which will be interesting against our defense which leads the league in defensive TO%.

The Cats should have an advantage inside; ISU allows the 9th worst 2PT% and K-State is best in the league on offensive 2PT%.

K-State allows oboards, but ISU doesn't really try to oboard, so that could be a wash.

Another stat where someone will have to give; K-State leads in FT rate and ISU leads in not allowing opponents to get to the FT line.

Finally, 3PT% will come into play; ISU takes 40% of their shots from there and we allow teams to make 44%.

I'll be an optimist and say Cats 74 - Clones 71.

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Post by: catastrophe on January 24, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
Safe to say that a W or L tonight depends on how well ISU is shooting the 3?
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 10:37:49 AM
Safe to say that a W or L tonight depends on how well ISU is shooting the 3?

That will be a big factor.

I'd say whoever wins that TO battle will be huge as well.

But you never know about a wildcard like rebounding. Neither team is good at getting oboards or defending against them, but someone may have one of those unusual nights where they get a bunch of them. I'd say that is more likely to be us because I'm not sure ISU even tries to oboard. I think Prohm is one of "those guys" (though he wasn't at Murray State).

ISU also doesn't attack the basket and rarely gets to the FT line, something else he changed from his Murray State days.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: Steffy08 on January 24, 2017, 10:58:12 AM
Safe to say that a W or L tonight depends on how well ISU is shooting the 3?

Yes we are due for a game in which the opponent can't throw it in the ocean.  OSU shot >50% against us from 3 (softest rims I've ever seen); OSU and WVU combined to shoot like 95% against us from free throw line.  Those games could've been blow outs in our favor.

It would be nice to be the recipient of a bad shooting night by ISU.  Also, we will need to make our free throws tonight.  The fact that we beat WVU given the difference in free throw percentage says something about how well this team is starting to play.
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Post by: PIPE on January 24, 2017, 11:07:32 AM
We play tonight?
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Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 24, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
We play tonight?

HEY GUYS!  LOOK AT PIPE LETTING EVERYONE KNOW HE DOESN"T PAY ATTENTION TO CATS BBALL BY POSTING ABOUT IT IN THE BBALL FORUM!
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: Yard Dog on January 24, 2017, 12:36:42 PM
To be fair to PIPE, basketball season does this to me every year. Since the day we play on sometimes shifts around I often open the ol' ESPN app and say "oh, we play tonight?" about as often as I rush through whatever I'm doing to flip on ESPN to realize we don't play till the next day.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: Steffy08 on January 24, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
To be fair to PIPE, basketball season does this to me every year. Since the day we play on sometimes shifts around I often open the ol' ESPN app and say "oh, we play tonight?" about as often as I rush through whatever I'm doing to flip on ESPN to realize we don't play till the next day.

It happens to the best of us
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 01:21:38 PM
The flip flops from Tuesdays to Wednesdays and back during Big 12 play are annoying. I wish they were all on Wednesdays.
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Post by: meow meow on January 24, 2017, 01:38:34 PM
schedule makers!!!  :shakesfist:
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Post by: Skipper44 on January 24, 2017, 02:58:25 PM
I really don't like the 6 pm tips and the 6 pm Mondays are a bad joke
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Post by: Tobias on January 24, 2017, 02:59:11 PM
those put like 50% of chat'rs in a bind
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2017, 03:03:36 PM
We play tonight?

HEY GUYS!  LOOK AT PIPE LETTING EVERYONE KNOW HE DOESN"T PAY ATTENTION TO CATS BBALL BY POSTING ABOUT IT IN THE BBALL FORUM!
:lol:
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 24, 2017, 03:23:12 PM
If you were all real cat fans you would know every week.

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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: Havs on January 24, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Logic tells me K-State will win tonight. My gut tells me ISU wins.
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Post by: Tobias on January 24, 2017, 03:23:56 PM
kick their asses greg :thumbs:
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 24, 2017, 08:35:54 PM
Hot rough ridin' garbage. 

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Post by: SdK on January 24, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
 :bawl:
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2017, 08:48:47 PM
http://www.our-happy-cat.com/images/xcat-tearing-toilet-roll.jpg.pagespeed.ic.UJzA5xh9HJ.jpg
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2017, 08:56:35 PM
This is disappointing, but not "this season is over" worthy.

Our defense is pretty bad though. Its got to get much, much better.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: PIPE on January 24, 2017, 08:58:16 PM
This is a joy to watch
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2017, 10:03:40 PM
Horse farts!!
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 24, 2017, 10:12:36 PM
Is tenn any good?

Hmmm
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Post by: CHONGS on January 24, 2017, 10:14:20 PM
We'll destroy Tennessee
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: renocat on January 25, 2017, 06:35:18 AM
Is tenn any good?

Hmmm
Hmmmmmm?   Are we better than Kentuckers?
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2017, 07:07:25 AM
Tennessee is not a good shooting team, nor do they shoot a lot of 3s. That should bode well for us.
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Post by: Canary on January 25, 2017, 07:39:51 AM
This is back to the earlier games; we have to play defense for 40 minutes.  There were times when we showed how good we can be. And then there were stretches where there was no intensity at all. Frustrating, but also fun to watch the second half comeback. 
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Post by: pissclams on January 25, 2017, 07:43:31 AM
i'd be interested in seeing how much better teams shoot against us versus their season average
when you consider our line up, we should be so much better than we are on perimeter defense.  maybe oscar should switch to a 1-2-2

regardless, we will lose to tennessee because road game
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: renocat on January 25, 2017, 07:49:19 AM
Can we.win any more?
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2017, 07:56:38 AM
Can we.win any more?

Oh we will, and we will win more road games cause oscar will oscar. I believe he will sneak this team into the tournament, because he's good enough to do that. But we also will have plenty of frustrating losses along the way.

This is a solid, fun K-State team. They should have 2 more road wins (minimum) and be in the discussion with KU and BU for a league title.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next 4 games.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2017, 08:17:56 AM
This is a joy to watch
SO EDGY!
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: meow meow on January 25, 2017, 08:49:16 AM
Can we.win any more?

Oh we will, and we will win more road games cause oscar will oscar. I believe he will sneak this team into the tournament, because he's good enough to do that. But we also will have plenty of frustrating losses along the way.

This is a solid, fun K-State team. They should have 2 more road wins (minimum) and be in the discussion with KU and BU for a league title.

SHOULD!   :lol:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2017, 08:57:10 AM
I agree _fan. It's a fun bunch of guys.
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Post by: meow meow on January 25, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
K-State Basketball...Where Fun > Winning!
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2017, 09:08:53 AM
K-State Basketball...Where Fun > Winning!
:love:
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Post by: meow meow on January 25, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
 :lol:
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Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 25, 2017, 09:21:44 AM
:lol:

Have to admit.  I  :lol: at that as well. 
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2017, 09:33:55 AM
K-State Basketball...Where Fun > Winning!

No.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: meow meow on January 25, 2017, 10:03:56 AM
relax, it's Wednesday
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
relax, it's Wednesday

True. One person on one of the K-State facebook groups I post on pointed out that we are now 0-3 on Tuesday road games. That must be it.
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Post by: sys on January 25, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
we are now 0-3 on Tuesday road games.

well, well, well.  looks like the schedulemakers are finally giving us a break.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 26, 2017, 02:09:40 PM
Can we.win any more?

Oh we will, and we will win more road games cause oscar will oscar. I believe he will sneak this team into the tournament, because he's good enough to do that. But we also will have plenty of frustrating losses along the way.

This is a solid, fun K-State team. They should have 2 more road wins (minimum) and be in the discussion with KU and BU for a league title.
Lol if we beat WVU in Morgantown sorry Cdubz. 

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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: Bookcat on January 28, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
Is tenn any good?
Today, yes,  next average team they face will smoke them

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Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: SdK on February 04, 2017, 05:28:07 AM
Yep. Ugly.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: renocat on February 04, 2017, 06:17:24 AM
Every time I purdick Cat road win they lose.  Cats get the pussy, including the meow, stomped out of them today.  A premonition - I saw a dead cat in the road; squished by an 18 wheeler.  Some guy was standing at the edge of the road yelling at the cat to play harder, move.  Drew is starting to panic.  The old vodoo is going to work.
Title: Re: Roadie Cats. Next away games.
Post by: renocat on February 04, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Every time I purdick Cat road win they lose.  Cats get the pussy, including the meow, stomped out of them today.  A premonition - I saw a dead cat in the road; squished by an 18 wheeler.  Some guy was standing at the edge of the road yelling at the cat to play harder, move.  Drew is starting to panic.  The old vodoo is going to work.
Wel this new tact works.  Voodooed the Bears.