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Title: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: CHONGS on February 19, 2016, 04:10:46 PM: (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FF57xv.png&hash=ca68a46cda92d693a4b816015209a0239768a437)

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Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 19, 2016, 05:35:12 PM: having the lower (better) ranks at the top is very non-intuitive for me.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: CHONGS on February 19, 2016, 05:44:06 PM: Well i swear you fuckers complained when I did it the other way previously.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2016, 06:23:18 PM: I like it that way chings
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 19, 2016, 07:07:39 PM: Quote from: Chingon on February 19, 2016, 05:44:06 PM
Well i swear you fuckers complained when I did it the other way previously.

prolly other posters did. maybe i did too, who knows.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 19, 2016, 07:11:30 PM: on first glance, it looks like the last three years were highly variable. but on reflection, really just 2014 was highly variable. in 2015 and 2016, kenpom's initial prediction was just inaccurate and those inaccuracies resolved over the course of those seasons.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2016, 07:22:23 PM: what game caused the ridiculous drop last season?
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 19, 2016, 07:47:16 PM: the first big drop looks like pittsburg, the second was the three game run of texas southern, georgia and osu.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2016, 07:53:51 PM: Long Beach wasn't the first big one? Or was them Pittsburgh performance incredibly awful?

There was also a bad one later in the season. TCU?
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 19, 2016, 08:12:43 PM: there was a medium big drop with long beach, but they got it all back against purdue. pitt was a 23 pt loss to a mediocre team. in those early games, kenpom is also fading out last year's data, so the game results themselves aren't the only impacts.

the late drop was a 17 pt road loss to tech.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: steve dave on February 19, 2016, 08:17:42 PM: I have enjoyed this recent stretch of kenpom not being quite ready to make the call that we suck crap. lol in his face.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: nicname on February 20, 2016, 05:35:47 AM: Boy, we really suck ass under oscar. Who would have thought?
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 08:02:43 AM: i'm dumb about graphs, is each plotted point a week of the hoops season?
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2016, 10:03:30 AM: Quote from: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 08:02:43 AM
i'm dumb about graphs, is each plotted point a week of the hoops season?

kenpom has a column that shows the ranking for each game.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2016, 12:16:42 PM: Kenpom can't predict oscar worth crap. I would like to see a chart of just oscar, Illinois last two years + KSU. Then an overlay of oscar vs Frank.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: Trim on February 20, 2016, 12:20:25 PM: Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
Kenpom can't predict oscar worth crap.

Maybe he was on Currie's search committee.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2016, 12:39:35 PM: Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
I would like to see a chart of just oscar, Illinois last two years + KSU. Then an overlay of oscar vs Frank.

Unfortunately the game by game updated kenpom ranking isn't part of his stats until 2011, so what Chingon provided is all we have.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: sys on February 20, 2016, 01:20:02 PM: Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on February 20, 2016, 12:39:35 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
I would like to see a chart of just oscar, Illinois last two years + KSU. Then an overlay of oscar vs Frank.

Unfortunately the game by game updated kenpom ranking isn't part of his stats until 2011, so what Chingon provided is all we have.

he could do 2011 and 2012 illinois instead of 2011 and 2012 kstate though, as m-n suggested.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: CHONGS on February 20, 2016, 02:43:21 PM: Quote from: sys on February 20, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on February 20, 2016, 12:39:35 PM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
I would like to see a chart of just oscar, Illinois last two years + KSU. Then an overlay of oscar vs Frank.

Unfortunately the game by game updated kenpom ranking isn't part of his stats until 2011, so what Chingon provided is all we have.

he could do 2011 and 2012 illinois instead of 2011 and 2012 kstate though, as m-n suggested.
Ha i did, just haven't posted it yet
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: CHONGS on February 22, 2016, 08:23:56 AM: (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FUPdUj.png&hash=969b2451f8728d9c6925e7f820e88b68dc3fb6a6)
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2016, 08:43:10 AM: 2011 team was pretty dec.
Title: Re: KSU BBall kenpom and the past 6 years
Post by: slobber on February 22, 2016, 08:55:41 AM: Kenpom Rebounder of the Year Award 3 years running! (It's on the 'Try Hard' chart)

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