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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: WavetheWheat on April 29, 2010, 10:24:43 AM
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I am deeply concerned. Thanks in advance for your answer.
We are one step away from rabbit ears. I see them coming soon.
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Really looking forward to the first awkward moment when ku fans do the "rip his rough ridin' head off" thing and Gill calls a timeout to stare them down.
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Me too. I have never done said cheer, that is until this year.
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Just pray (haha, get it) that you never see Gill wearing a cowboy hat. You guys are still fracked though.
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This is interesting...
Does anyone have a link...transcript or video?
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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I am deeply concerned. Thanks in advance for your answer.
We are one step away from rabbit ears. I see them coming soon.
What were they pledging to do, or not do?
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http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/12/kus-gill-lead-pledge-against-drugs/
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Although he has had his hands full with football so far, Kansas University football coach Turner Gill has found plenty of ways to demonstrate how important community is to him.
KU officials announced recently that during halftime of the Jayhawks’ April 24 Spring Game, Gill plans to lead a group of youths and their parents in a pledge against the use of drugs.
In a letter sent to all of Lawrence’s elementary schools last week, Gill wrote: “I want you to know that we teach our players what you are learning in your health and science classes at school — drugs are not fun and they can harm you, your friends and your family. Together, we can all take the pledge and promise to live a drug-free lifestyle.”
The reading of the pledge, which can be obtained upon entering Memorial Stadium the day of the game, will be led by Gill and senior defensive back Chris Harris.
In addition, the first 500 youths who arrive can pick up a “Drug-Free Jayhawk” bracelet and the first 5,000 fans will receive a free T-shirt.
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:love: :love:
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:eek:
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OMG just like Nancy Reagan :eek:
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Becoming evident that when coaches do things (pledges, read a lot of books, etc) other than focus on coaching, they're in over their cowboy hat.
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lol
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:lol:
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http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/12/kus-gill-lead-pledge-against-drugs/
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Although he has had his hands full with football so far, Kansas University football coach Turner Gill has found plenty of ways to demonstrate how important community is to him.
KU officials announced recently that during halftime of the Jayhawks’ April 24 Spring Game, Gill plans to lead a group of youths and their parents in a pledge against the use of drugs.
In a letter sent to all of Lawrence’s elementary schools last week, Gill wrote: “I want you to know that we teach our players what you are learning in your health and science classes at school — drugs are not fun and they can harm you, your friends and your family. Together, we can all take the pledge and promise to live a drug-free lifestyle.”
The reading of the pledge, which can be obtained upon entering Memorial Stadium the day of the game, will be led by Gill and senior defensive back Chris Harris.
In addition, the first 500 youths who arrive can pick up a “Drug-Free Jayhawk” bracelet and the first 5,000 fans will receive a free T-shirt.
must not have used drugs before :excited: :bong: :drink: :driving:
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How does Gill justify working for Lew?
And do we have a nickname for Gill yet? Or is he THAT much of a non-threat?
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And do we have a nickname for Gill yet?
Turder Gill imo
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Turner, No Hooch Gill.
Now someone needs to take this:
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and photoshop him holding a ginger ale or something
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Blazing Saddles.
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
I can't wait until we outnumber them in their own stadium (again) and rip their goalposts down.
Then it should be followed by copious amounts of vandalism. Setting fires to cars, couches, trees, etc.
:garr:
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
I can't wait until we outnumber them in their own stadium (again) and rip their goalposts down.
Then it should be followed by copious amounts of vandalism. Setting fires to cars, couches, trees, etc.
:garr:
beating ku is not a big deal.
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
I can't wait until we outnumber them in their own stadium (again) and rip their goalposts down.
Then it should be followed by copious amounts of vandalism. Setting fires to cars, couches, trees, etc.
:garr:
beating ku is not a big deal.
Agreed. I'm just up for burning other people's couches.
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
I can't wait until we outnumber them in their own stadium (again) and rip their goalposts down.
Then it should be followed by copious amounts of vandalism. Setting fires to cars, couches, trees, etc.
:garr:
beating ku is not a big deal.
Agreed. I'm just up for burning other people's couches.
that and getting drunk. Sounds like a kstate fan to me....
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Gill jumped the shark in my mind as soon as I saw that B.E.L.I.E.V.E. video. And I even liked the guy at first.
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Thank you Gill. I appreciate you giving me something to get excited about for football season.
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http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/12/kus-gill-lead-pledge-against-drugs/
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Although he has had his hands full with football so far, Kansas University football coach Turner Gill has found plenty of ways to demonstrate how important community is to him.
KU officials announced recently that during halftime of the Jayhawks’ April 24 Spring Game, Gill plans to lead a group of youths and their parents in a pledge against the use of drugs.
In a letter sent to all of Lawrence’s elementary schools last week, Gill wrote: “I want you to know that we teach our players what you are learning in your health and science classes at school — drugs are not fun and they can harm you, your friends and your family. Together, we can all take the pledge and promise to live a drug-free lifestyle.”
The reading of the pledge, which can be obtained upon entering Memorial Stadium the day of the game, will be led by Gill and senior defensive back Chris Harris.
In addition, the first 500 youths who arrive can pick up a “Drug-Free Jayhawk” bracelet and the first 5,000 fans will receive a free T-shirt.
must not have used drugs before :excited: :bong: :drink: :driving:
yeah, to say drugs are not fun is completely irresponsible. The rest may be true, but drugs are definitely fun.
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This really is going to be fantastic. Looking forward to the free tickets to Memorial (dump track around the field) Stadium like the good ol' days. :ksu:
I can't wait until we outnumber them in their own stadium (again) and rip their goalposts down.
Then it should be followed by copious amounts of vandalism. Setting fires to cars, couches, trees, etc.
:garr:
beating ku is not a big deal.
Doesn't mean it's not fun :dunno:
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Hope Gill succeeds greatly in life.
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Gill jumped the shark in my mind as soon as I saw that B.E.L.I.E.V.E. video. And I even liked the guy at first.
We should all like the guy. He's going to do wonders for KSU.
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Blazing Saddles.
Where are all the white women at?
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Can't wait til this guy gets a DUI...
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Can't wait til this guy gets a DUI...
And starts yelling about how much he hates Jews.
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Can't wait til this guy gets a DUI...
And starts yelling about how much he hates Jews.
LOLLERS! Would not be surprised in the slightest.
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Can't wait til this guy gets a DUI...
And starts yelling about how much he hates Jews.
LOLLERS! Would not be surprised in the slightest.
Agreed. In my experience, the guys who aare overtly religious and jam it down everyone's throat, usually have some vicious skeletons in their closet.
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Blazing Saddles.
Where are all the white women at?
:opcat: :opcat: :opcat:
"Pledges? We don't need no stinking pledges!"
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Can't wait til this guy gets a DUI...
And starts yelling about how much he hates Jews.
LOLLERS! Would not be surprised in the slightest.
Agreed. In my experience, the guys who aare overtly religious and jam it down everyone's throat, usually have some vicious skeletons in their closet.
Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
THEREBIG! :pbj:
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
What about in the winter? Just throw open the window?
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Beems, what are your thoughts on Gill making students say drugs aren't fun?
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
THEREBIG! :pbj:
real gooch. moontower. omg. it's really him. :runaway:
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Read rumblings from KUers about his recruiting style being similar to Prince's.
SECURE THE BORDER!!
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Read rumblings from KUers about his recruiting style being similar to Prince's.
SECURE THE BORDER!!
Any WaffleHouse mentions?
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
THEREBIG! :pbj:
real gooch. moontower. omg. it's really him. :runaway:
Who is the "gooch" who was at OKCPak then? Another 'clams imposter situation? :runaway:
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Garbage fans, turning on each other.
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They would of been better off keeping Mangino, and letting him beat their players than hiring Turner Gill who could barely succeed at the MAC level. :lol: :lol:
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
So what BCS game did the Buffalo Bulls go to for winning their conference? I dont remember seeing them
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
So what BCS game did the Buffalo Bulls go to for winning their conference? I dont remember seeing them
They didn't. It's a garbage hire, and gets funnier everyday.
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Quad Heeds, that sort of thing.... :fatty:
Just drive by his house and see if the fratton is in the yard with a space heater and a fan on it.
THEREBIG! :pbj:
real gooch. moontower. omg. it's really him. :runaway:
Who is the "gooch" who was at OKCPak then? Another 'clams imposter situation? :runaway:
I have a fake clams now :blush:
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
That year they had a record that was tied for fourth in the conference, even though they were in the much easier division. Then they pretty much got lucky with every break in the title game.
He was at a mid-major. If you don't completely suck as a coach, you'll be decent about every 4 years whe you have a couple stud players with experience.
^Perspective^
Anyways, if you're seriously happy with him, then good for you I guess.
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
So what BCS game did the Buffalo Bulls go to for winning their conference? I dont remember seeing them
They're not in a BCS conference, dumbass.
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
So what BCS game did the Buffalo Bulls go to for winning their conference? I dont remember seeing them
They didn't. It's a garbage hire, and gets funnier everyday.
The guy hasn't even had a chance to coach at a BCS program, yet. STFU, hater.
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BMW, i understand you want to defend your coach and all, but come on..... He's a terrible hire and you know it. We all knew ron prince blew male genitals. Just stop denying it.
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We all knew ron prince blew male genitals.
This is about as ridiculous as beems yelling about hating on an unproven coach, given that 90% of KU fans widely panned the Ron Prince hire at the onset. Hell, I was one of them. It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
I don't think that Gill is as nearly as full of crap as Prince, but he does seem to be jumping the shark on this whole morality thing. Then again, maybe he did that at Buffalo, and nobody heard about it because nobody covers Buffalo football. He could still be a damn good hire, or he could send KU back to wandering in the wilderness again. For me, I'd like to see Gill's in-game coaching for a few games for KU before passing judgment.
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We all knew ron prince blew male genitals.
This is about as ridiculous as beems yelling about hating on an unproven coach, given that 90% of KU fans widely panned the Ron Prince hire at the onset. Hell, I was one of them. It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
I don't think that Gill is as nearly as full of crap as Prince, but he does seem to be jumping the shark on this whole morality thing. Then again, maybe he did that at Buffalo, and nobody heard about it because nobody covers Buffalo football. He could still be a damn good hire, or he could send KU back to wandering in the wilderness again. For me, I'd like to see Gill's in-game coaching for a few games for KU before passing judgment.
the biggest difference that i can see so far is prince brought in FreEMAW and was inheriting a fairly experienced team while Gill is starting with a bare cupboard and no big recruits. at this point it is pretty rediculous to completely throw Gill under the bus, but outside of putting together a decent coaching staff (which prince also did his first season) i don't see a whole lot to be optimistic about just yet, at least not compared to any optimism felt in prince's first yr.
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It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
Spring 2006 for some of us.
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It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
Spring 2006 for some of us.
I was all about giving him a chance until the first game. Then he called a hail mary deep ball on his first play and I hated him. Over the next year and a half I tried to talk my self back into liking him a few times, with varying success. The lst year and a half I hated him...I hated him hard.
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It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
Spring 2006 for some of us.
I was all about giving him a chance until the first game. Then he called a hail mary deep ball on his first play and I hated him. Over the next year and a half I tried to talk my self back into liking him a few times, with varying success. The lst year and a half I hated him...I hated him hard.
I couldnt of said it better.
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We all knew ron prince blew male genitals.
This is about as ridiculous as beems yelling about hating on an unproven coach, given that 90% of KU fans widely panned the Ron Prince hire at the onset. Hell, I was one of them. It took until 2007 to get KSU fans really soured on Prince. Before then, Prince was on the way to resurrecting the program in the eyes of EMAWs, even on ksufans.
I don't think that Gill is as nearly as full of crap as Prince, but he does seem to be jumping the shark on this whole morality thing. Then again, maybe he did that at Buffalo, and nobody heard about it because nobody covers Buffalo football. He could still be a damn good hire, or he could send KU back to wandering in the wilderness again. For me, I'd like to see Gill's in-game coaching for a few games for KU before passing judgment.
the biggest difference that i can see so far is prince brought in FreEMAW and was inheriting a fairly experienced team while Gill is starting with a bare cupboard and no big recruits. at this point it is pretty rediculous to completely throw Gill under the bus, but outside of putting together a decent coaching staff (which prince also did his first season) i don't see a whole lot to be optimistic about just yet, at least not compared to any optimism felt in prince's first yr.
Gill isn't starting with a bare cupboard. Mangino brought in some pretty good recruiting classes in his last couple years, with guys like McDougald, Opurum, Kande, etc. KU returns most of its defense and its starting offensive line from last season. If Kale Pick can add another dimension to the offense with his ability to scramble, I could see KU being pretty decent next season (anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4). Keep in mind also that the schedule gets much easier next year with KU going back to the South rotation of Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M.
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
A MAC TITLE!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
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Wave just hasn't been the same since Mangino was fired. Heaven forbid a program fire a coach who lost seven straight games to finish off the season, and a coach who had one winning conference season in eight years. At least give Gill a chance before you start comparing him to Ron Prince. IIRC, Prince had no head coaching experience, and never won three national championships as an assistant.
Just a heads up BMW, a coach who had one winning season in four years at a MAC school got promoted to your head coach.
Just sayin :dunno:
That program had five wins total in the six seasons before Gill took over. He won the conference by his third year. Get some perspective, or GTFO.
So what BCS game did the Buffalo Bulls go to for winning their conference? I dont remember seeing them
They're not in a BCS conference, dumbass.
That's my point you a$$ clown, let's get excited about a coach who won a title in some noname conference- I'd be excited too!
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
A MAC TITLE!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
Notre Dame's new head coach started in the MAC. So did Urban Meyer. Keep trying to diminish what Gill did at Buffalo, though. I've come to expect nothing less from powerespect nation.
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I see an account cancellation on the horizon.
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I like how Beems calls us "haters" like we should be offended by it. I don't anyone here has denied hating UK.
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
A MAC TITLE!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
Notre Dame's new head coach started in the MAC. So did Urban Meyer. Keep trying to diminish what Gill did at Buffalo, though. I've come to expect nothing less from powerespect nation.
Urban Meyer coached and won a BCS game while he was at Utah- kinda like Mark Mangino did at KU, but I gues Gill will be better than Mangino- right?
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
A MAC TITLE!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
Notre Dame's new head coach started in the MAC. So did Urban Meyer. Keep trying to diminish what Gill did at Buffalo, though. I've come to expect nothing less from powerespect nation.
Many good coaches have come from being assistants in the ACC too, but Ron Prince still sucked...
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Turner Gill....... :lol:
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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) = thinking that ku's Garbage second team could beat a conf opponent.
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KU football this year............ :lol: x's 100
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the biggest difference that i can see so far is prince brought in FreEMAW and was inheriting a fairly experienced team while Gill is starting with a bare cupboard and no big recruits. at this point it is pretty rediculous to completely throw Gill under the bus, but outside of putting together a decent coaching staff (which prince also did his first season) i don't see a whole lot to be optimistic about just yet, at least not compared to any optimism felt in prince's first yr.
Gill isn't starting with a bare cupboard. Mangino brought in some pretty good recruiting classes in his last couple years, with guys like McDougald, Opurum, Kande, etc. KU returns most of its defense and its starting offensive line from last season. If Kale Pick can add another dimension to the offense with his ability to scramble, I could see KU being pretty decent next season (anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4). Keep in mind also that the schedule gets much easier next year with KU going back to the South rotation of Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M.
their offensive line and defense were both terrible last season, but if you want to lean on that, thats fine. prince in his first season inherited a starting QB Meier, RB Clayton, a couple of all big 12ers in WR Figures and LB Archer, and some solid senior role players in DT Echols and LB Diles and DB K. Williams. It obviously showed since even prince was able to get them to a bowl. Gill returns nothing except hope that some mediocre/bad players improve, plus a better schedule (though the non-con is one of ku's toughest in years.) I see 4 or 5 wins at most.
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the biggest difference that i can see so far is prince brought in FreEMAW and was inheriting a fairly experienced team while Gill is starting with a bare cupboard and no big recruits. at this point it is pretty rediculous to completely throw Gill under the bus, but outside of putting together a decent coaching staff (which prince also did his first season) i don't see a whole lot to be optimistic about just yet, at least not compared to any optimism felt in prince's first yr.
Gill isn't starting with a bare cupboard. Mangino brought in some pretty good recruiting classes in his last couple years, with guys like McDougald, Opurum, Kande, etc. KU returns most of its defense and its starting offensive line from last season. If Kale Pick can add another dimension to the offense with his ability to scramble, I could see KU being pretty decent next season (anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4). Keep in mind also that the schedule gets much easier next year with KU going back to the South rotation of Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M.
their offensive line and defense were both terrible last season, but if you want to lean on that, thats fine. prince in his first season inherited a starting QB Meier, RB Clayton, a couple of all big 12ers in WR Figures and LB Archer, and some solid senior role players in DT Echols and LB Diles and DB K. Williams. It obviously showed since even prince was able to get them to a bowl. Gill returns nothing except hope that some mediocre/bad players improve, plus a better schedule (though the non-con is one of ku's toughest in years.) I see 4 or 5 wins at most.
Kale Pick would not beat out Carson, of CK, or Harper. And that is big trouble in a conf that even bad teams routinely put up 28pts.
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Beems talent evaluation also led him to believe last year's ku second team could beat KSU.
Lols at Ben evaluating football talent. The cupboard is bare in Lawrence.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/01/19/coaching.reportcard/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)
Kansas (Turner Gill, Buffalo head coach): A
The former Nebraska star returns to the Big 12, where he will now go head-to-head with the Huskers. What Gill pulled off at Buffalo -- taking over the worst program in Division I-A, bar none, and leading it to a MAC title three years later -- is one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the past decade. And his ties to the Heartland should help elevate Kansas' recruiting profile.
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The cupboard is not bare, hater. Think whatever you want, though. No one is stopping you from looking like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
A MAC TITLE!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
Notre Dame's new head coach started in the MAC. So did Urban Meyer. Keep trying to diminish what Gill did at Buffalo, though. I've come to expect nothing less from powerespect nation.
Many good coaches have come from being assistants in the ACC too, but Ron Prince still sucked...
Gill has SEC/Big 12 assistants as his defensive/offensive coordinators. He also has guys like Reggie Mitchell and Darrell Wyatt who can recruit with the best of them. I really see no similarities at all between Gill and his coaching staff compared to Prince's.
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Still relieved they didn't hire Tuberville. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ksufans.com%2Fforums%2FSmileys%2Fksufans%2Fsweat.gif&hash=f3070cc194c85606c1895496e075e052e67cdd7f)
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I got some inside :peek: info that Kale Pick cussed during practice and got in some big time trouble, prolly won't start the first couple of games :runaway:
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History is still waiting turner.
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Pretty sure Prince had good assistants once upon a time...he just chased them away.
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Pretty sure Prince had good assistants once upon a time...he just chased them away.
Come on now, that can't be true, we all know fired college coaches are better than NFL head coaches any day of the week.
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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) = thinking that ku's Garbage second team could beat a conf opponent.
A lot of that "garbage" second team consisted of guys like Bradley McDougald, Jamal Greene, Prinz Kande, Quinton Woods, Huldon Tharp (who started by the end of the season and was first team freshman all american), Kale Pick, Lubbock Smith, etc. These are guys that will be contributing a lot next year, and who made big strides toward the end of last season. Mangino also had a bunch of guys in the doghouse, like Steven Johnson and Anthony Davis, for example, who would have been big time contributors last year if given a chance.
Also keep in mind that I was basing my prediction on a K-State team that lost, 52-21, in Lawrence the year before. Let's not forget that K-State started Carson Coffman at the beginning of the year and lost to Louisiana-Lafayette. I give Snyder all the credit in the world for playing small ball and squeezing every ounce of talent out of that team last year. I still believe that KU had more talent than K-State last year, with guys like Stuckey, Briscoe, Meier, and Reesing, but for whatever reason, that team quit halfway through the season. KU was a couple plays away last year from beating Mizzou at Arrowhead and Colorado in Boulder, but the coaching (and the refusal to utilize a power running game) ultimately cost KU a solid 7-5/8-4 type of season. Hell, KU was up on Texas Tech, 21-14, at the end of the 3rd quarter (in Lubbock). KU also gave Nebraska all they could handle.
I know you're really proud that K-State was able to squeak out a boring 17-10 win in Manhattan last year, but honestly, that game was a total fluke. KU missed two or three field goals and had some really uncharacteristic turnovers in that game by way of the fumble. K-State limited the possessions and basically snuck out with a flukey win, in a game that seemed like it only lasted for about three quarters. Regardless, I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) = thinking that ku's Garbage second team could beat a conf opponent.
A lot of that "garbage" second teams consists of guys like Bradley McDougald, Jamal Greene, Prinz Kande, Quinton Woods, Huldon Tharp (who started by the end of the season and was first team freshman all american), Kale Pick, Lubbock Smith, etc. These are guys that will be contributing a lot next year, and who made big strides toward the end of last season. Mangino also had a bunch of guys in the doghouse, like Steven Johnson and Anthony Davis, for example, who would have been big time contributors last year if given a chance.
Also keep in mind that I was basing my prediction on a K-State team that lost 52-21 in Lawrence the year before. We're also talking about a K-State team that started Carson Coffman at the beginning of the year and lost to Louisiana-Lafayette. Give Snyder credit for playing small ball and squeezing every ounce of talent out of that team last year. Like it or not, KU had more talent than K-State last season, they just didn't have LHC Bill Snyder coaching them over there on the sidelines.
Anyone who watched the game knows that isn't true.
Losers make excuses while winners go nail the prom queen. Which are you?
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All that "talent" showed n tht 17-10 loss eh?
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PS. In 52-21, Prince had a lot of would-be contributors in the doghouse who would have made a difference.
We just didn't have Mangino coaching. Would have won easily if we had.
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PS. In 52-21, Prince had a lot of would-be contributors in the doghouse who would have made a difference.
We just didn't have Mangino coaching. Would have won easily if we had.
Yeah, K-State would have easily made up those 31 points if Carson Coffman was starting in place of Josh Freeman.
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2 things I'd like to clear up here....
1) KU fans, administration, media, marketing department (myself included) got incredibly cocky after the Y.O.D. There really isn't any arguing it. We did say some stupid things, we put a 80 ft tall banner of our current QB on outside of our stadium, tried to launch a stadium expansion (after 1 year...1 year...of sellouts) and launched the now incredibly ironic "history awaits" campaign. I don't blame myself, as a matter of fact I am glad we exploited the YOD as it was incredible for us and I loved every minute of it. Including going to a freaking Orange Bowl, staying in South Beach, and WINNING. I loved the YOD. I hope someday in my lifetime we have another YOD. So for those making fun of us celebrating our YOD.....screw you....it was a magical year.
2) Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
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2 things I'd like to clear up here....
1) KU fans, administration, media, marketing department (myself included) got incredibly cocky after the Y.O.D. There really isn't any arguing it. We did say some stupid things, we put a 80 ft tall banner of our current QB on outside of our stadium, tried to launch a stadium expansion (after 1 year...1 year...of sellouts) and launched the now incredibly ironic "history awaits" campaign. I don't blame myself, as a matter of fact I am glad we exploited the YOD as it was incredible for us and I loved every minute of it. Including going to a freaking Orange Bowl, staying in South Beach, and WINNING. I loved the YOD. I hope someday in my lifetime we have another YOD. So for those making fun of us celebrating our YOD.....screw you....it was a magical year.
2) Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
Good post, thanks for being realistic- unlike BMWJ
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You actually had to edit that post to include MORE limp dick excuses?
Just relax. So ksu football is back out in front of ku again, it can turn around at some point...maybe.
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great post
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2 things I'd like to clear up here....
1) KU fans, administration, media, marketing department (myself included) got incredibly cocky after the Y.O.D. There really isn't any arguing it. We did say some stupid things, we put a 80 ft tall banner of our current QB on outside of our stadium, tried to launch a stadium expansion (after 1 year...1 year...of sellouts) and launched the now incredibly ironic "history awaits" campaign. I don't blame myself, as a matter of fact I am glad we exploited the YOD as it was incredible for us and I loved every minute of it. Including going to a freaking Orange Bowl, staying in South Beach, and WINNING. I loved the YOD. I hope someday in my lifetime we have another YOD. So for those making fun of us celebrating our YOD.....screw you....it was a magical year.
2) Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
Good post, Wave. The thing that gives me confidence about Gill is the fact that he brought in a coaching staff that has experience at the BCS level, and a coaching staff that has proven it can recruit top talent. I agree that the pledges and stuff are pretty cheesy, and it's not really my style, but there were plenty of things I didn't like about Mangino as well. Let's just give this guy a chance first before we compare him to the joke of a coach that was Ron Prince.
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2 things I'd like to clear up here....
1) KU fans, administration, media, marketing department (myself included) got incredibly cocky after the Y.O.D. There really isn't any arguing it. We did say some stupid things, we put a 80 ft tall banner of our current QB on outside of our stadium, tried to launch a stadium expansion (after 1 year...1 year...of sellouts) and launched the now incredibly ironic "history awaits" campaign. I don't blame myself, as a matter of fact I am glad we exploited the YOD as it was incredible for us and I loved every minute of it. Including going to a freaking Orange Bowl, staying in South Beach, and WINNING. I loved the YOD. I hope someday in my lifetime we have another YOD. So for those making fun of us celebrating our YOD.....screw you....it was a magical year.
2) Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
Good post, Wave. The thing that gives me confidence about Gill is the fact that he brought in a coaching staff that has experience at the BCS level, and a coaching staff that has proven it can recruit top talent. I agree that the pledges and stuff are pretty cheesy, and it's not really my style, but there were plenty of things I didn't like about Mangino as well. Let's just give this guy a chance first before we compare him to the joke of a coach that was Ron Prince.
Agreed. With Wave and Beams.
Anyone who doesn't believe that Snyder would have hired Chuck Long if he could have got him is dumb.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
I think that we can all agree that when it comes to programs that aren't in the top 10 historically, "all time series" numbers are ridiculous. It's about how well you have done during the lifetime of potential recruits and their parents.
KU basketball enjoys this exemption, because they are a top 10 basketball program historically. So, even if KSU rattled off a series of MBB wins, KU would still recruit very well because they have quite a bit to hang their hat on. Similarly, just because KU won a couple in football under a now infamously dirty coach, it doesn't really count for that much because over the course of recruits and their parents lives, KSU has been vastly better at football.
You'll see, it will play out that way (in football) over the next five years. Trust me.
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Bunch of assistants who got a better pay day today, and will be looking for a better opportunity tomorrow if they have an inkling of success at ku. the ones with bcs experience aren't going to hang around and work for that guy.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
Because those favor you. Therefore, I like my way better. Also, mine exists within my lifetime, during a time period that I went to games and what not.
Curious as to KU's record against during the time period you want to games. I'm guessing pretty close to 4-2.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
Because those favor you. Therefore, I like my way better. Also, mine exists within my lifetime, during a time period that I went to games and what not.
Curious as to KU's record against during the time period you want to games. I'm guessing pretty close to 4-2.
KU was 4-1 against K-State in football during my time at KU. The only loss was in '05, in another low scoring fluke of a win for K-State.
:dunno:
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does, "dod" mean anything to you BMW
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KU was 4-1 against K-State in football during my time at KU. The only loss was in '05, in another low scoring fluke of a win for K-State.
:dunno:
That's very good timing Beems. Congrats
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
Because those favor you. Therefore, I like my way better. Also, mine exists within my lifetime, during a time period that I went to games and what not.
Curious as to KU's record against during the time period you want to games. I'm guessing pretty close to 4-2.
KU was 4-1 against K-State in football during my time at KU. The only loss was in '05, in another low scoring fluke of a win for K-State.
:dunno:
I guess being 0-4 vs K-State when I was at KU is why I am a k-state fan. :dunno:
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I don't think ku even crossed the 50 in my 4 years.
The asst coaches are decent. Long is just filthy and dirty enough to offset Gill's over the top, bible in-your-faceness.
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during my 4 years at kstate, Cats went 4-0 with a total score of 181-41.
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Hiring Gill is the equivlant to taking Tebow in the first round.
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I'll take a recent BCS Bowl victory and three out of the last four wins over one bowl in six years any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'll take 14 of the last 17 (kinda guessing on that) over 3 of 4. I would also take a conference championship over a BCS win (provided its not the title game) and no conf championship appearances. So I guess we're both happy with what we got.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. KU won in '04, '06, '07, and '08. KU also leads the all-time series 65-37.
So 13 of 17? Not bad
Why stop at 17? How about 37 of 102? Or maybe we could just shorten it to 2 out of 6?
Because those favor you. Therefore, I like my way better. Also, mine exists within my lifetime, during a time period that I went to games and what not.
Curious as to KU's record against during the time period you want to games. I'm guessing pretty close to 4-2.
KU was 4-1 against K-State in football during my time at KU. The only loss was in '05, in another low scoring fluke of a win for K-State.
:dunno:
I guess being 0-4 vs K-State when I was at KU is why I am a k-state fan. :dunno:
KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
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KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
Good resume builder.
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KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
Good resume builder.
Jealousy noted.
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KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
Good resume builder.
Jealousy noted.
The 'jealousy noted' defense mechanism has been beaten to death. Just give it up.
/in b4 'jealousy noted'
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KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
Good resume builder.
Jealousy noted.
Fitz?
Please respond to this by calling me a hater.
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KU lost to K-State twice in football and basketball combined during my time at KU. I was also able to enjoy an Orange Bowl and a National Championship during that same time period.
Good resume builder.
Jealousy noted.
Fitz?
Please respond to this by calling me a hater.
Somebody in the Creepster thread did mention that Fitz and BMW have never been seen in the same place at the same time. The evidence is mounting up. :runaway:
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Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
I have never been so pissed to be right in my life. T. Gill = abortion of a football coach.
Some good BMW quotes for you all to digest in this beauty.
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Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
I have never been so pissed to be right in my life. T. Gill = abortion of a football coach.
Some good BMW quotes for you all to digest in this beauty.
Pretty sure the T. Gill pledge forbids you from thinking or talking about abortions of any sort.
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When will moonbeams return:
• When Shelby is declared eligible.
• When the sqwawks are "more competitive" for three quarters that K-State against a common opponent.
• When K-State loses.
• When BB season starts.
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Turner Gill was an incredible reach and an incredible gamble hire. I am not sure how anybody can debate it. His resume is weak and unimpressive. He does seem like a guy that can motivate and the players seem to "like him" We will see which way works better. I have always been under the belief system that football coaches are not your "friend" and with that many kids in one team, it goes from being a "friend" to walking all over somebody very quickly. I think Turner's pledge is hokey. I think his chants and acronyms are sophomoric and will not work long term. He does have some good assistants who have shown the ability to recruit at other places. We will see if that translates to Lawrence. I will tell you what I have told everybody. I hope this experiment works. My confidence level on it, however, is somewhere around 2 out of 10. There are too many red flags already.
I have never been so pissed to be right in my life. T. Gill = abortion of a football coach.
Some good BMW quotes for you all to digest in this beauty.
Does less than one game count?