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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: OK_Cat on September 19, 2015, 03:06:34 PM
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Woof
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Blind dog woofers
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Offensively challenged. Defense is solid.
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I'm not sure if I've seen a high school team that drops as many passes as we do.
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This offense really makes me want to cry
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Pretty terrible by Prewett not to account for the boot by the QB. What play are you going to make in a run going completely away from you on 4th down? And the QB almost scored on a run the previous play. Just inexcusable.
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I think we still beat ISU and KU though
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We aren't even trying to run anymore
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The one player on this offense with a pulse gets 8 yards a carry for 2 carries and then sits
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Football is a dumb game anyway
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The 2004 team thinks this is a bad offense.
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6 wins maybe
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6 wins maybe
Maybe
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Maybe pull this one out. Maybe beat isu and ku. But who else? :(
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Think how much worse it'd be with waters :flush:
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Yeah. Joe Hubener is our best player on offense. We would be even worse with Waters.
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Yeah. Joe Hubener is our best player on offense. We would be even worse with Waters.
Silmons is the best player and for some god forsaken reason he doesn't get carries
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"I need 11 new guys" - LHC Bill Snyder about his offense.
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"I need 11 new guys" - LHC Bill Snyder about his offense.
That bad person recruits these players. Weak excuse.
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Bazooka sucks guys.
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"I need 11 new guys" - LHC Bill Snyder about his offense.
That bad person recruits these players. Weak excuse.
Agreed.
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Bazooka sucks guys.
Can't throw and run the Water's offense. Can't run either.
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Put in Banks
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Yeah. Joe Hubener is our best player on offense. We would be even worse with Waters.
Silmons is the best player and for some god forsaken reason he doesn't get carries
Now he is
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Yeah. I'm done with Hubes. Have been since game 1 though.
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Cook played at hutch reno 1/2 university
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Now the defense sucks, too.
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Someone on the opposite edge needs to watch the QB and not keep getting drawn in. Frikin rediculous.
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I'm wondering how long Sean Snyder has been running this team behind the scenes...
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I'm wondering how long Sean Snyder has been running this team behind the scenes...
He hasn't been
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I still love the cats. But this is embarrassing.
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I'm wondering how long Sean Snyder has been running this team behind the scenes...
I'm wondering how long you've been delusional
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Hubes can't throw the ball and we aren't running him.
Why even play him. Put in Banks.
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Hubes can't throw the ball and we aren't running him.
Why even play him. Put in Banks.
It doesn't matter who we put in. Win or lose our lack of overall talent on offense is extremely depressing. :flush:
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Hubes can't throw the ball and we aren't running him.
Why even play him. Put in Banks.
They look like they are still trying to save Banks' redshirt and must believe Delton will be back by OSU with the week off next week. There have been maybe 2 designed QB runs, that's the most reasonable explanation, IMO.
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Fainting Goat 2.0
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I'm wondering how long Sean Snyder has been running this team behind the scenes...
I'm wondering how long you've been delusional
Not long, but thanks guys for straightening me out. I will go back into believing that all is great and this is all a part of the Wizard's plan.
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Can't convert a turnover inside their 30 for a Touchdown and can't convert a 1st down against the 98th defense in the country to seal a game. Awful. Wow.
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Nice pass, Hubener.
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It was a good one.
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I'm going to cut the defense some slack. the DE's on every single play are being held, I don't know if it just looks normal after 4 quarters now? very odd
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I'm going to cut the defense some slack. the DE's on every single play are being held, I don't know if it just looks normal after 4 quarters now? very odd
Lol, ok.
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WTF was that crap, Joe?
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Good thing Jack's back.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
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i feel like we have a chance at 5 - 4 if we put winning before family
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i thought my guy did decently well overall :dunno:
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Who's that?
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the stud QB you hate for no good reason
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With all the trouble we have running the ball, I have to wonder if it's a line problem. We do decently in passing plays as far as giving him time for the most part. But running plays break down way too often.
Another observation; if the receivers catch the good throws, Hubes looks like a much better quarterback. He makes enough un catchable passes, that the receivers have to bring in the good throws.
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With all the trouble we have running the ball, I have to wonder if it's a line problem. We do decently in passing plays as far as giving him time for the most part. But running plays break down way too often.
Another observation; if the receivers catch the good throws, Hubes looks like a much better quarterback. He makes enough un catchable passes, that the receivers have to bring in the good throws.
interesting point here
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With all the trouble we have running the ball, I have to wonder if it's a line problem. We do decently in passing plays as far as giving him time for the most part. But running plays break down way too often.
Another observation; if the receivers catch the good throws, Hubes looks like a much better quarterback. He makes enough un catchable passes, that the receivers have to bring in the good throws.
interesting point here
This happened a lot last year and everyone just blamed Waters for not being a good runner. Our line is really good at pass blocking but they aren't able to move anyone.
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With all the trouble we have running the ball, I have to wonder if it's a line problem. We do decently in passing plays as far as giving him time for the most part. But running plays break down way too often.
Another observation; if the receivers catch the good throws, Hubes looks like a much better quarterback. He makes enough un catchable passes, that the receivers have to bring in the good throws.
And the guy sitting next to me today pointed out several times that the backs were missing the holes and running the wrong direction. Got bottled up all day long on the inside.
interesting point here
This happened a lot last year and everyone just blamed Waters for not being a good runner. Our line is really good at pass blocking but they aren't able to move anyone.
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the stud QB you hate for no good reason
Joe?
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no the tooth fairy
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Joe might set the B12 record for INT's in conference play. He's awful.
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no the tooth fairy
I hate Ertz too if that helps.
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Joe might set the B12 record for INT's in conference play. He's awful.
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he hasnt even thrown one yet you rough ridin' dingleberry
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
:thumbs:
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The 55 heart D showed up a couple times
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If our offense was as good as our defense and our defense was way better we would be in pretty good shape.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
Texas looks to be awful only on defense now, not both sides. But the rest I can get behind.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
Texas looks to be awful only on defense now, not both sides. But the rest I can get behind.
Yes, I had to chuckle tonight recalling that Charlie was blaming the offense the last couple of weeks.
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Disappointed in our D this game. I think our offense by the end of the year will look quite a bit different, but right now it's hard to imagine cracking 8 wins.
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Just keep going to bowls and building nice things is what I always say.
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Only 36 points allowed in 3 games!
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How many times are people going to say "put in Banks" without rough ridin' knowing he's red shirting. Lazy trolls! :curse:
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Hubes can't throw the ball and we aren't running him.
Why even play him. Put in Banks.
They look like they are still trying to save Banks' redshirt and must believe Delton will be back by OSU with the week off next week. There have been maybe 2 designed QB runs, that's the most reasonable explanation, IMO.
You posted this a few times but the very first play of the game was them ramming Bazooka Joe right into the line, the same damn thing that got The Cisco Kid hurt.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
Texas looks to be awful only on defense now, not both sides. But the rest I can get behind.
Cal's defense is assy thougb
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
Texas looks to be awful only on defense now, not both sides. But the rest I can get behind.
Cal's defense is assy thougb
Some guy on shaggy said this and got crucified. They annointed jerrod the next vince young and some poor bastard said um hey like cal has a garbage defense.
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3 more for a bowl, I bet they get it done.
I do too. I think we may get 4 more.
Well, Texas looks awful, KU and ISU are awful, and I have no idea what to think about Tech. WVU always derps on the road.
We will sit here and think that we should be a 6-7 win team, but they'll somehow eek out 8-9. They'll do some exciting stuff in Stillwater in two weeks, and we will get excited again.
Snyder 2.0 has just been weird that way. They are just reeling from injuries right now. Get healthy in two weeks and see what happens at OSU. This was just a crap day against a good offense. Driskell got aggressive in the second half when they smelled blood, and they have deceptive talent at the skill positions.
I'll watch again, but I feel good that they had the mental fortitude to get out of there with a win. Showed some serious character, especially Joe's last TD toss. That was nails.
agreed :thumbs: lose to the good teams and let's see what happens against the pud ones
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Hubes can't throw the ball and we aren't running him.
Why even play him. Put in Banks.
They look like they are still trying to save Banks' redshirt and must believe Delton will be back by OSU with the week off next week. There have been maybe 2 designed QB runs, that's the most reasonable explanation, IMO.
You posted this a few times but the very first play of the game was them ramming Bazooka Joe right into the line, the same damn thing that got The Cisco Kid hurt.
Yeah, I was surprised by that.
Then he got like 4 or 5 more designed runs the rest of the game and gave it on all reads. I think someone said "what are you doing, we've got one QB" and it changed.
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How many times are people going to say "put in Banks" without rough ridin' knowing he's red shirting. Lazy trolls! :curse:
Wackster, just because someone is red shirting doesn't mean they are, like, hidden away in a box somewhere. They could play him, even though they won't.
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The time has come for a redshirt informational thread
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How many times are people going to say "put in Banks" without rough ridin' knowing he's red shirting. Lazy trolls! :curse:
Wackster, just because someone is red shirting doesn't mean they are, like, hidden away in a box somewhere. They could play him, even though they won't.
You can burn a red shirt at any time dumbass
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Would someone get steffy on the line...
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I like Hubener at QB. He throws a lot of deep balls and has no interceptions. I'm sure he will throw a few at some point, but I like watching him play.
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the difference between 3 or 5 conference wins with this team will be razor thin ........I can't remember a single offensive skill player making a dude miss or breaking a tackle ........I mean crist on a crutch...
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ny replays of this game? I only got to watch the first half. :frown:
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This team so far seems like a combo of 2010's offense, 2011's resilience/ability to come back, and 2013's proclivity for WTF moments. Not sure what that means but we will probably have a lot of fun and frustrating games like Saturday.
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
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Is this the eye test/hot takes/ hyperbole(stats can GTFO) thread?
If so, #75 on D is probably the biggest stud on campus.
Hubes would be a 3rd string QB on half of the Big12's teams.
Cook is Spiderman.
Hubes ran worse than Jake this game.
Our offensive line is horrible at running the ball. The worst.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
This team would have won the NDSU game.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
This team would have won the NDSU game.
I am not 100 about that.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
This team would have won the NDSU game.
i disagree. NDSU might score less but we would certainly score less.
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
This team would have won the NDSU game.
i disagree. NDSU might score less but we would certainly score less.
With Banks at qb we win the NDSU game.
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Offensively challenged. Defense is solid.
Defense won't be solid much longer, the offense's ineptitude is going to tire them out.
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The defense was already getting tired in the 2nd quarter.
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The defense was already getting tired in the 2nd quarter.
But it's cool. I mean, Joe didn't get hurt by running a few more times.
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You guys remember 2013 @Ok State? This year's game will be exactly that with less scoring. I even think its the same gametime and weekend of football.
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I thought it was a frustratingly exciting game by our youngsters, what a game, cats
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Is this the eye test/hot takes/ hyperbole(stats can GTFO) thread?
If so, #75 on D is probably the biggest stud on campus.
Hubes would be a 3rd string QB on half of the Big12's teams.
Cook is Spiderman.
Hubes ran worse than Jake this game.
Our offensive line is horrible at running the ball. The worst.
People keep talking about the defense and their run blocking, did any of you see Silmon's rushing stats? Also it seems inconsistent to complain about the offensive play calling and the oline. Should the o line have been able to block all 8 guys in the box because our play calling with regard to the run lacked creativity?
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Is this the eye test/hot takes/ hyperbole(stats can GTFO) thread?
If so, #75 on D is probably the biggest stud on campus.
Hubes would be a 3rd string QB on half of the Big12's teams.
Cook is Spiderman.
Hubes ran worse than Jake this game.
Our offensive line is horrible at running the ball. The worst.
People keep talking about the defense and their run blocking, did any of you see Silmon's rushing stats? Also it seems inconsistent to complain about the offensive play calling and the oline. Should the o line have been able to block all 8 guys in the box because our play calling with regard to the run lacked creativity?
Is this the eye test/hot takes/ hyperbole(stats can GTFO) thread?
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Silmon averaged 4.8 ypc. Jones averaged 4.7. We just need to give up the idea of a fullback as a running back, get Hubener to stop throwing balls into the dirt, and get our receivers to catch passes that hit them between the numbers. Our offense is far less efficient than it should be. That starts with Dana Dimel.
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We were dominating when we ran behind the fullback with Silmon. But for some reason we keep going back to Hubes in Shotgun trying zone reads. Cats need to start the game running Silmon behind the fullback before the second half. And if they don't use someone in the Wildcat that the defense has to at least think there might be a pass, you might as well scrap it especially in the redzone.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
Agreed. Way too much living with the CK and then Waters/TLBL line of thinking anyways.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
Agreed. Way too much living with the CK and then Waters/TLBL line of thinking anyways.
This CK type battering ram runs have got to stop. Hubes runs worst than the Fainting Goat and does not have CK's ability to find holes.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
My frustration reached near peak level when 'zook ran the zone read on the 6-yd line. He had the right read, pulled the ball and had daylight to the goal line until he ran his face into the nearest linebackers chest and collapsed for only a 3-yd gain.
Agreed. Way too much living with the CK and then Waters/TLBL line of thinking anyways.
This CK type battering ram runs have got to stop. Hubes runs worst than the Fainting Goat and does not have CK's ability to find holes.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
To say that Snyder is lazy because he doesn't have the offense running smooth, after losing two of his top three quarterbacks in the first two games, is a comment beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
To say that Snyder is lazy because he doesn't have the offense running smooth, after losing two of his top three quarterbacks in the first two games, is a comment beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such.
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yeah, but those quarterbacks may be able to get redshirted (medical??), so consider that in your analysis next time steffy before making such outlandish comments
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I have no idea what's going on with the offensive play calling but anyone with two eyes can see that it has been absolutely horrendous. Saturday's crap show is 100% on Dana and Del and we deserve an explanation for their inefficacy. :shakesfist:
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has anybody tabulated the total number of yards/TDs gained through the Wildcat since DT left? I'd like to know.
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you would have to exclude dsams because he would skew them in an unrealistic way
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you would have to exclude dsams because he would skew them in an unrealistic way
yeah, excluding the dual-threat QB who's actually a threat to pass the football, how many yards/TD do we have out of the Wildcat?
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kinda feels like 2013's team if you took away TLBL and hubert.
Simon was our first 100yd back since Hubert on Saturday
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
We can win if we're positive on the TO margin. I really hope we've been showing the wildcat to get teams to waste time prepping for it, then just unleash Silmon and throw bombs.
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
We can win if we're positive on the TO margin. I really hope we've been showing the wildcat to get teams to waste time prepping for it, then just unleash Silmon and throw bombs.
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Honestly, how much time could it possibly take to prep for our Wildcat play? Thirty minutes at most?
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
We can win if we're positive on the TO margin. I really hope we've been showing the wildcat to get teams to waste time prepping for it, then just unleash Silmon and throw bombs.
have we forced a turnover on defense yet? serious question
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
We can win if we're positive on the TO margin. I really hope we've been showing the wildcat to get teams to waste time prepping for it, then just unleash Silmon and throw bombs.
have we forced a turnover on defense yet? serious question
First one against LT fumble and recovery. No INT's yet.
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Ya. Weird team. Not that hopeful for our game in Stillwater in two weeks. Might be a fun season, though? Dunno.
We can win if we're positive on the TO margin. I really hope we've been showing the wildcat to get teams to waste time prepping for it, then just unleash Silmon and throw bombs.
have we forced a turnover on defense yet? serious question
Fair. Lee's hit on driskel dislodged the ball but it got trapped between their pads and he held on to it on the way down. Crazy play. But ya we've sucks on forcing to's
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
To say that Snyder is lazy because he doesn't have the offense running smooth, after losing two of his top three quarterbacks in the first two games, is a comment beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such.
I agree with this statement. Anyone of us who sits on these boards for hours at a time calling Snyder lazy makes me question all of my life choices.
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taking everything said on this site at face value is beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such
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taking everything said on this site at face value is beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such
I agree with that statement as well
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
To say that Snyder is lazy because he doesn't have the offense running smooth, after losing two of his top three quarterbacks in the first two games, is a comment beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such.
I agree with this statement. Anyone of us who sits on these boards for hours at a time calling Snyder lazy makes me question all of my life choices.
Great post.
If anything Snyder works too hard at it and thinks too much about football.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
indeed
This is what always happens on a message board....a valid point gets extended too far, such that it is ridiculous.
stfu steffy
To say that Snyder is lazy because he doesn't have the offense running smooth, after losing two of his top three quarterbacks in the first two games, is a comment beyond stupid and needs to be noted as such.
I agree with this statement. Anyone of us who sits on these boards for hours at a time calling Snyder lazy makes me question all of my life choices.
anyone of us who sits on these boards for hours at a time and doesn't know how to read makes me question nothing because i already realize that the world is full of dumbasses
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lol at _fan and canary agreeing with steffy when steffy didn't address a damn thing that pissclams said. What steffy did to 'clams post should be used to illustrate what a strawman in for the rest of time.
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lol at _fan and canary agreeing with steffy when steffy didn't address a damn thing that pissclams said. What steffy did to 'clams post should be used to illustrate what a strawman in for the rest of time.
I believe the quote said they "choose to be old and lazy with the play calling" but I may have read that wrong. I'll go look at it a third time.
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Yep, that's what pissclam said. Since he only mentioned Snyder and Miller in his post, when he said "they" that's about whom you would naturally assume he was speaking. But I'm no grammar teacher...anymore.
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lol at _fan and canary agreeing with steffy when steffy didn't address a damn thing that pissclams said. What steffy did to 'clams post should be used to illustrate what a strawman in for the rest of time.
I believe the quote said they "choose to be old and lazy with the play calling" but I may have read that wrong. I'll go look at it a third time.
You should because 'clams was clearly addressing Snyder's loyalty to his washed offensive coordinators. I don't know what the hell that has to do with quarterbacks being hurt.
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I don't think anyone is completely washed up.
I do think they may be trying to do stuff that doesn't necessarily fit the pieces they have.
I think quarterback depth and injuries certainly changes how you call offense.
I think that Snyder and his staff have always had a big weakness in over-thinking the game, which often shows up in how they call games.
I think Snyder and his staff have a young offense without a lot of explosive players.
I'm satisfied with 3-0 to this point, but clearly last Saturday showed a ton off issues with this offense that must be fixed unless we just want to (maybe) scrape out 6 wins and bowl eligibility.
I do think some of the issues can be fixed.
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lol at _fan and canary agreeing with steffy when steffy didn't address a damn thing that pissclams said. What steffy did to 'clams post should be used to illustrate what a strawman in for the rest of time.
I believe the quote said they "choose to be old and lazy with the play calling" but I may have read that wrong. I'll go look at it a third time.
You should because 'clams was clearly addressing Snyder's loyalty to his washed offensive coordinators. I don't know what the hell that has to do with quarterbacks being hurt.
I did reread it. Still stand by my comment. That is what pissclam said.
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And I agree that the play calling has been awful or at least the execution of it has been.
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This is all part of Snyder's plan. Lots of people were pointing at Dana as Bill's logical successor but he wants Sean to succeed him, so what does he do? Hands the offensive keys completely over and let's Dana coach his way out of any HCIW discussion. 'Grats, HOFHCBS. Nobody in the world wants to see Dana take over now.
Probably not true, but it's fun to think about Bill as a master puppeteer pulling all of these strings behind the curtain.
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HEY YOU GUYS! Canary can't read.
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This is all part of Snyder's plan. Lots of people were pointing at Dana as Bill's logical successor but he wants Sean to succeed him, so what does he do? Hands the offensive keys completely over and let's Dana coach his way out of any HCIW discussion. 'Grats, HOFHCBS. Nobody in the world wants to see Dana take over now.
Probably not true, but it's fun to think about Bill as a master puppeteer pulling all of these strings behind the curtain.
#Schemed
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HEY YOU GUYS! Canary can't read.
I couldn't quite sound out what you wrote there.
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it's pretty sad to see snyder, who at one point in his career ran college football's most creative offenses, allow himself to be hamstrung by his loyalty to del miller
they know how to do more but instead choose to be old and lazy with the play calling
I'm not sure what I misread. Care to help me out with that?
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They is referring to our co-offensive coordinators.
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They is referring to our co-offensive coordinators.
And where in that quote was it stated or implied? He mentioned Snyder and Miller by name. That is where in my limited reading ability I surmised they meant those two.
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They is referring to our co-offensive coordinators.
And where in that quote was it stated or implied? He mentioned Snyder and Miller by name. That is where in my limited reading ability I surmised they meant those two.
:facepalm:
The way I read it is if you allow yourself to be hamstrung then you are no longer in control. There for not linked to the offensive play calling. :th_twocents:
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They is referring to our co-offensive coordinators.
And where in that quote was it stated or implied? He mentioned Snyder and Miller by name. That is where in my limited reading ability I surmised they meant those two.
:facepalm:
The way I read it is if you allow yourself to be hamstrung then you are no longer in control. There for not linked to the offensive play calling. :th_twocents:
Ok
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Class dismissed.
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I'm guessing you think you taught me something there. I would like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Oh snap.
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It's all about layers my friend.
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Oh snap.
Just perspective.
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It's all about layers my friend.
Not that kind of layer.
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Oh snap.
Just perspective.
Fitting way to end a debate starting with a clams message. All burner team smack.
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It's all about layers my friend.
Not that kind of layer.
I smirked
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
maybe what steff dog is suggesting is that snyder's staff, ever the workaholics, have simply forgotten their entire playbook with the exception of the 4 plays we've ran over the past 5 seasons
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is there another team in the world (aside from Army and IvyLeague Schools) that runs a double-fullback set?
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
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where are you even getting these rules at?
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is there another team in the world (aside from Army and IvyLeague Schools) that runs a double-fullback set?
I haven't watched a ton of Stanford football closely, but I think they might. Or maybe they put some tight ends in formations that make a 2 TE set look like a 2 FB set, or maybe they have a FB, H-Back, and TE in some sets, but I'm pretty sure Stanford runs some big sets.
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Did other people notice we were lining up Gronk at TE for several snaps? I think that's a good idea. Dimel can give quality reps at FB, and TE its a great way to get Gronk on the field another 10 or so reps (at least). Plus, it doesn't look like our young TEs are anything special.
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Did other people notice we were lining up Gronk at TE for several snaps? I think that's a good idea. Dimel can give quality reps at FB, and TE its a great way to get Gronk on the field another 10 or so reps (at least). Plus, it doesn't look like our young TEs are anything special.
Has BJ thrown to a TE other than Party Time. :dunno:
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
I may or may not be....but you can't infer that from my lack of googling redshirt rules, because googling redshirt rules is not my job.
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
I may or may not be....but you can't infer that from my lack of googling redshirt rules, because googling redshirt rules is not my job.
Take a rough ridin' lap you two, Jesus.
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don't encourage it, just leave it
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I think we could kick Arkansas' ass with 2 fullbacks.
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
I may or may not be....but you can't infer that from my lack of googling redshirt rules, because googling redshirt rules is not my job.
#unionmemberrules
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
I may or may not be....but you can't infer that from my lack of googling redshirt rules, because googling redshirt rules is not my job.
#unionmemberrulesisrules
fyp
Gonna win 'em all!
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Even if it was meant the way steffy went with, there's a huge difference between calling someone lazy and calling the play calling lazy.
No, there really isn't. It's splitting hairs.
If I call it lazy posting for not just googling redshirting rules it doesn't mean I'm necessarily calling you lazy
If my job is to google redshirt rules, and you call me lazy at googling redshirt rules, you are calling me lazy.
Message Board Rule 12: When you say something stupid, pretend that you didn't say it by splitting hairs; if that doesn't work, state that people shouldn't take stuff on message boards seriously. Never, ever, admit that you were wrong.
Ok, then you're lazy
I may or may not be....but you can't infer that from my lack of googling redshirt rules, because googling redshirt rules is not my job.
#unionmemberrulesisrules
fyp
Gonna win 'em all!
:thumbsup:
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Did other people notice we were lining up Gronk at TE for several snaps?
I did not.. Honestly I looked like royalswild out in the parking lot
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Did other people notice we were lining up Gronk at TE for several snaps?
I did not.. Honestly I looked like royalswild out in the parking lot
Seagram's, huh?