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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Yard Dog on September 15, 2015, 08:06:58 AM
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That sure looks like a virus link
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Low information voter
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I can't imagine any of the Lib candidates catching a football. I like a person who respects American sports in the white house.
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I can't imagine any of the Lib candidates catching a football. I like a person who respects American sports in the white house.
Biden played college football.
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I can't imagine any of the Lib candidates catching a football. I like a person who respects American sports in the white house.
Biden played college football.
Is he running for president? Last I heard he hadn't entered the race.
If you watched the video you would know so did Marco Rubio.
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I bet you're the same guy that complains (on Facebook likely) about Obama filling out a bracket
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Caught a football? Give that man some nukes!
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Caught a football? Give that man some nukes!
I'm voting for Rob Gronkowski for president!
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Yes. The stream of First Ladies would be amaze.
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I bet you're the same guy that complains (on Facebook likely) about Obama filling out a bracket
Nope, I have never complained about that. Was actually one of his few redeeming qualities for me. I usually didn't like how he underestimated the cats and the BIGXII and he rarely made risky picks on his bracket. Seemed pretty weak sauce to me.
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate. So all hope of that is lost. I just need Rubio to have a good debate to get his numbers up.
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
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Also his audience doesn't care if he over steps
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
Liberal MSM.
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Also his audience doesn't care if he over steps
Each overstep is celebrated and strengthens their support.
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7th day Trumpists
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
Ratings. If Trump surges in the polls they will have plenty to cover for the next year on his shenanigans alone.
That, and the fact that they want to give the liberal nominee the candidate least likely to win the general.
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CNN doesn't care that he wins. Just that he is in the race. For example, they would probably benefit more from him doing poorly tonight, but ending the night by calling Carly a rat faced bitch, than if he does well and behaves.
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CNN doesn't care that he wins. Just that he is in the race. For example, they would probably benefit more from him doing poorly tonight, but ending the night by calling Carly a rat faced bitch, than if he does well and behaves.
The thing is, with Trump's base, him doing well includes calling Carly a rat faced bitch.
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well, yeah
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CNN doesn't care that he wins. Just that he is in the race. For example, they would probably benefit more from him doing poorly tonight, but ending the night by calling Carly a rat faced bitch, than if he does well and behaves.
I think there is a better chance that Dr. Carson looks like he knows what to do with his hands than the Donald deciding to behave.
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The clinton news network :curse:
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The debate has three moderators. Hugh Hewitt is brilliant and I would choose him to moderate every debate if I could. Jake Tapper is an excellent, fair reporter (right up there with Ed Henry). I don't know who the third moderator is, but I'm guessing she's a more typical MSM liberal. Still, 2 out of 3 is not bad at all.
The problem will not be moderators but the format. Putting 11 candidates on the same stage is stupid. CNN has tried to compensate by making the debate nearly three hours long, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't engage in a meaningful debate among 11 friggin' people. The canididates will not be afforded the time to all address the same issues, let alone the same questions, which doesn't allow for meaningful comparison. They could have broken the candidates into 3 randomly selected pools of 4 candidates and given them each an hour and gotten a far better result.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Right, but my point is that they don't have to be that way. The candidates are all looking for that headline-grabbing one-liner or "slam" because they're each going to get about 8-10 minutes of time tonight out of a three hour debate if they're lucky.
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Yeah, if this many people running for office becomes a regular thing for the republicans, they really should start organizing them into pods or something.
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I would like to see a Russell Simmons def debate jam on hbo
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Unless of course you are hoping that they finally get Trump to say something meaningful about his plans and policies. I can't seem to find those online anywhere.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Unless of course you are hoping that they finally get Trump to say something meaningful about his plans and policies. I can't seem to find those online anywhere.
Trump says he will unveil his new tax plan in a few weeks. It will be interesting to see how he responds to Jeb's plan. His rhetoric has been all over the place.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Unless of course you are hoping that they finally get Trump to say something meaningful about his plans and policies. I can't seem to find those online anywhere.
I could be wrong, but I'm not going to hold my breath for meaningful plans and policies from Trump. He's running on emotion - not policy. People are enraged about lack of immigration enforcement, our declining American influence in the world (by Obama's "leading from behind" design) and a political establishment that has betrayed them time and again. And this isn't just conservatives who feel this way - not by a long shot.
I think Trump would be a spectacularly terrible (but entertaining) president, but he's your candidate if you want to teach the GOP a lesson or just burn it all down.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Unless of course you are hoping that they finally get Trump to say something meaningful about his plans and policies. I can't seem to find those online anywhere.
I could be wrong, but I'm not going to hold my breath for meaningful plans and policies from Trump. He's running on emotion - not policy. People are enraged about lack of immigration enforcement, our declining American influence in the world (by Obama's "leading from behind" design) and a political establishment that has betrayed them time and again. And this isn't just conservatives who feel this way - not by a long shot.
I think Trump would be a spectacularly terrible (but entertaining) president, but he's your candidate if you want to teach the GOP a lesson or just burn it all down.
True, but the last two elections ended with a "Now we know what we need to do going forward" feeling for the party. And we didn't seem to make any noticeable changes. My response to the last election was that we needed a younger person to step up and prove that it wasn't the party of rich old white men. At the time Rubio was on a lot of people's minds. I'm hoping he shines in the little time he has to speak tonight.
I am not sure how the party would respond to a Trump nomination and loss in the general election. Probably poorly.
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I think the republican party's biggest problems are that they villainize working migrants and poor people.
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I think the republican party's biggest problems are that they villainize working migrants and poor people.
That and their association so strongly with religion and how they really want to god up the country.
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I agree about the lack of productivity with 11 ppl. I don't think it matters. The debates are more contests of how to twist questions back to talking points then slamming others on stage than they are about actual issues.
I mean, 20 min online should give you enough info so that you don't need to actually watch it, unless you just like drama and slams.
Unless of course you are hoping that they finally get Trump to say something meaningful about his plans and policies. I can't seem to find those online anywhere.
I could be wrong, but I'm not going to hold my breath for meaningful plans and policies from Trump. He's running on emotion - not policy. People are enraged about lack of immigration enforcement, our declining American influence in the world (by Obama's "leading from behind" design) and a political establishment that has betrayed them time and again. And this isn't just conservatives who feel this way - not by a long shot.
I think Trump would be a spectacularly terrible (but entertaining) president, but he's your candidate if you want to teach the GOP a lesson or just burn it all down.
True, but the last two elections ended with a "Now we know what we need to do going forward" feeling for the party. And we didn't seem to make any noticeable changes. My response to the last election was that we needed a younger person to step up and prove that it wasn't the party of rich old white men. At the time Rubio was on a lot of people's minds. I'm hoping he shines in the little time he has to speak tonight.
I am not sure how the party would respond to a Trump nomination and loss in the general election. Probably poorly.
I don't think the Republican party would survive a a Trump nomination. Hell, Trump's first act upon receiving the nomination might be to officially rebrand it the Trump Party.
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I think the republican party's biggest problems are that they villainize working migrants and poor people.
That and their association so strongly with religion and how they really want to god up the country.
Yeah, that too. Of course, if they didn't associate so much with religion, I'm not sure they would be able to get more than about 30% of the votes, and that might be generous.
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They would gain a lot of normal people
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They would gain a lot of normal people
Less easy to control and manipulate. Still easy, just less so.
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
Ratings. If Trump surges in the polls they will have plenty to cover for the next year on his shenanigans alone.
That, and the fact that they want to give the liberal nominee the candidate least likely to win the general.
Goddamn, yep just as stupid as I thought. How does Donald Trump being in the race help CNN'S ratings? Do you really think Trump voters are watching This is Life with Lisa Ling, Blackfish, and AC360? Don't answer, you'll say something else really rough ridin' dumb.
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I love Lisa Ling
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
Garbage
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
Garbage
Excuse me?
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
Garbage
Excuse me?
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Can you believe how spoiled we were that LL and Anderson Cooper were on channel 1 greeting us with news everyday? My god
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Can you believe how spoiled we were that LL and Anderson Cooper were on channel 1 greeting us with news everyday? My god
and that serena azshul or whoever that went to mtv
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Oh man I forgot about her. We truly lived in a great age
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
Ratings. If Trump surges in the polls they will have plenty to cover for the next year on his shenanigans alone.
That, and the fact that they want to give the liberal nominee the candidate least likely to win the general.
Goddamn, yep just as stupid as I thought. How does Donald Trump being in the race help CNN'S ratings? Do you really think Trump voters are watching This is Life with Lisa Ling, Blackfish, and AC360? Don't answer, you'll say something else really rough ridin' dumb.
I should have included during the debate. It was three hours long which means a lot of ad revenue. I heard that ads were selling on the channel for Super Bowl pricing.
I was being a little bit ridiculous. But, when you are a 24 hour news show, it is nice having something to fill in the spaces that you know drive viewers to your channel. IE further ad revenue.
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
Garbage
Excuse me?
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;)
Whew, that was close, I didn't want to have to go in on you
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I love Lisa Ling
she's my channel1 crush
Garbage
Excuse me?
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;)
Whew, that was close, I didn't want to have to go in on you
Those days are over. :cheers:
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That's a better reason than 1/3 of these dumbass republicans voting for a reality TV star who bankrupts companies to avoid paying bills, spends most of his time demeaning women, and has no policy views at all.
I sincerely hope he oversteps himself tonight and finally loses his audience in the debate. But, we all know that it is in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good during the debate.
I'm gonna regret asking this but why is it in CNN's best interest to make Trump look good?
Ratings. If Trump surges in the polls they will have plenty to cover for the next year on his shenanigans alone.
That, and the fact that they want to give the liberal nominee the candidate least likely to win the general.
Goddamn, yep just as stupid as I thought. How does Donald Trump being in the race help CNN'S ratings? Do you really think Trump voters are watching This is Life with Lisa Ling, Blackfish, and AC360? Don't answer, you'll say something else really rough ridin' dumb.
I should have included during the debate. It was three hours long which means a lot of ad revenue. I heard that ads were selling on the channel for Super Bowl pricing.
I was being a little bit ridiculous. But, when you are a 24 hour news show, it is nice having something to fill in the spaces that you know drive viewers to your channel. IE further ad revenue.
Check your source re: Super Bowl because it is an idiot
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I enjoyed Rubio's "We all look alike" comeback zinger. Probably not enough to win my vote, but his chances are substantially higher than before the debate started. :D
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If his name was rick rubio he might have a shot.
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If his name was rick rubio he might have a shot.
i may or may not have made a post last night in which I actually thought that was his first name
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if he had a better haircut, he would be on top of the pub field.
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Makes trumps accomplishments more impressive really
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If his name was rick rubio he might have a shot.
i may or may not have made a post last night in which I actually thought that was his first name
Well now I feel like a big fraud
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https://www.facebook.com/SenatorMarcoRubio/videos/1072016126157084/?pnref=story
:love::love::love::love::love::love::love:
He is so amazing!
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Yard Dog, are you willing to defend his haircut?
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Yard Dog, are you willing to defend his haircut?
It is better than the current front runners, that is for sure. I don't honestly think it looks all that bad. I mean, he is married to a former Miami Dolphins cheerleader, so if she likes it who am I to say he should change it?
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A professional cheerleader? Wow!
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A professional cheerleader? Wow!
I'm guessing she knows more about hair fashion (or whatever you call it) than I do.
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What is wrong with Marco Rubio's haircut? He's Cuban. What are you, a racist?
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What is wrong with Marco Rubio's haircut? He's Cuban. What are you, a racist?
He's American you racist
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What is wrong with Marco Rubio's haircut? He's Cuban. What are you, a racist?
He's American you racist
I'm not the one making fun of the hair of a son of hard-working Cuban immigrants, bigot. Sounds like a dog whistle to me... :whistle1:
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sad
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I'm just saying that if he brought the sides in tight and razored that part, he would be the front runner.
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I went ahead and gave him a photoshop haircut:
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It might be because he has big goofy ears?
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Marco has the best men's haircut in the field.
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he looks like then son of a cuban immigrant named taran killam in that photo
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It's like he has the same barber as Scott drew
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Ted Cruz has nice hair
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Ted Cruz has nice hair
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Ted Cruz is too fat for anyone to care.
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What happened to the Cult Aggie guy who bought glasses to not seem so stupid?
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What happened to the Cult Aggie guy who bought glasses to not seem so stupid?
Sensing that his campaign wasn't going anywhere financial backers started pulling out and he could no longer afford to run a campaign. So, he was the first nominee to drop out of the race.
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rubio seems like a fairly good human. bush too.
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They're saying he's got a chance!
http://labs.time.com/story/how-marco-rubio-is-winning-the-republican-twitter-primary/
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rubio seems like a fairly good human. bush too.
Agree on rubio, undecided on Bush (though I think his brother and especially father were decent people)
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Cap Gains Tax Cut to 0 :Yuck: :flush: :facepalm:
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Good news for fans of Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina (and by extension, America). Turns out that not only did they clearly win the CNN debate, but Americans actually appear to have noticed that they won the CNN debate. (That makes Rubio two for two, by the way, but Carly was at the kiddie table for the first round).
Latest poll by CNN shows a significant surge in support for both candidates, at Trump's expense. Full results here: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf)
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Love Carley. If she was black, she would be my dream candidate, but I would vote for her anyway.
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Good news for fans of Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina (and by extension, America). Turns out that not only did they clearly win the CNN debate, but Americans actually appear to have noticed that they won the CNN debate. (That makes Rubio two for two, by the way, but Carly was at the kiddie table for the first round).
Latest poll by CNN shows a significant surge in support for both candidates, at Trump's expense. Full results here: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf)
im not sure this passes the yard dog test:
Interviews with 1,006 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC
International on September 17 - 19, 2015. The margin of sampling error for
results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The sample also includes 924 interviews among registered voters (plus or
minus 3 percentage points).
This sample includes 606 interviews among landline respondents and 400
interviews among cell phone respondents.
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fiorina was a horrible ceo. at some point, if she approaches credibility, people will start to bring that up. even legitimately good business leaders have struggled to appeal as politicians, its hard to imagine someone that flamed out in business (admittedly, after rising to the top), is going to have much appeal.
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I think she was an above average ceo during a below average market. It's not like she drove the stock into the ground, and she took over right before the tech bubble burst. She may have even saved HP from bankruptcy even though she wasn't there to see her strategy succeed.
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fiorina was a horrible ceo. at some point, if she approaches credibility, people will start to bring that up. even legitimately good business leaders have struggled to appeal as politicians, its hard to imagine someone that flamed out in business (admittedly, after rising to the top), is going to have much appeal.
Carly helped herself out a lot by appearing to know what she was talking about in regards to national defense during the debate. She was specific and used locations and numbers. I have no idea if she was accurate, but nobody called her on it, so it doesn't matter.
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I think she was an above average ceo during a below average market. It's not like she drove the stock into the ground, and she took over right before the tech bubble burst. She may have even saved HP from bankruptcy even though she wasn't there to see her strategy succeed.
she drove for an acquisition that led to a write down and which the current ceo is essentially unwinding in the current split. share price lagged all competitors and she was dismissed acrimoniously. you may choose to view her as above average, but the market did not agree.
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fiorina was a horrible ceo. at some point, if she approaches credibility, people will start to bring that up. even legitimately good business leaders have struggled to appeal as politicians, its hard to imagine someone that flamed out in business (admittedly, after rising to the top), is going to have much appeal.
Carly helped herself out a lot by appearing to know what she was talking about in regards to national defense during the debate. She was specific and used locations and numbers. I have no idea if she was accurate, but nobody called her on it, so it doesn't matter.
Nothing about defense, yet
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/carly-fiorina/
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Good news for fans of Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina (and by extension, America). Turns out that not only did they clearly win the CNN debate, but Americans actually appear to have noticed that they won the CNN debate. (That makes Rubio two for two, by the way, but Carly was at the kiddie table for the first round).
Latest poll by CNN shows a significant surge in support for both candidates, at Trump's expense. Full results here: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/20/rel10a.pdf)
im not sure this passes the yard dog test:
Interviews with 1,006 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC
International on September 17 - 19, 2015. The margin of sampling error for
results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The sample also includes 924 interviews among registered voters (plus or
minus 3 percentage points).
This sample includes 606 interviews among landline respondents and 400
interviews among cell phone respondents.
It still boggles the mind that that small of a sampling only means a variance of 4%. But, if I am to grow and "trust in science" as I have been told be more than a few angry libs I would have to say I am pleased by those poll results.
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Cap Gains Tax Cut to 0 :Yuck: :flush: :facepalm:
Would you compromize by phasing in a progressive tax structure for capital gains? If it meant cutting them to zero for, say, the first $20k in cap gains, I'd be ok with gradually increasing them from there.
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They're saying he's got a chance!
http://labs.time.com/story/how-marco-rubio-is-winning-the-republican-twitter-primary/
I've seen similar things indicating that Marco, to the extent he's not the first choice, is the overwhelming second choice. This sets up well for him and could lead to a chain reaction of escalating support if he can stay in the race long enough. Looks like his fundraising is doing quite well.
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They're saying he's got a chance!
http://labs.time.com/story/how-marco-rubio-is-winning-the-republican-twitter-primary/
I've seen similar things indicating that Marco, to the extent he's not the first choice, is the overwhelming second choice. This sets up well for him and could lead to a chain reaction of escalating support if he can stay in the race long enough. Looks like his fundraising is doing quite well.
Well, that was timely. Scott Walker is rumored to be leaving the race. http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?_r=0)
Guess who Scott Walker supporters' second choice is? Rubio (but I'm not counting out Fiorina getting some of his support).
I liked Walker, BTW. He was the best candidate on paper, but not enough charisma to break through. CNN did him no favors with the talking time at the debate, either.
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Liberal media :curse:
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Walker was tied with Santorum as the worst candidate in the field, and I'm glad he's gone.
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Walker has an unfortunate look.
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Scott Walker would've been a perfect fit (looks wise) for the Wisconsin basketball team
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Scott Walker would've been a perfect fit (looks wise) for the Wisconsin basketball team
I think he might have eligibility
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I think he might have eligibility
could he get a medical redshirt?
FORT MILL, SC—Subjecting his body to intense and highly dangerous levels of stress, an out-of-control Scott Walker was said to be severely hurt Monday after careening wildly between several different stances on immigration. “The human frame simply isn’t meant to handle the kind of physical strain that Governor Walker imposed on himself by veering so quickly and so recklessly between contradictory viewpoints,” said physician James Soroka, who added that the injuries the candidate suffered after he attempted multiple 180-degree pivots in rapid succession on the issue of birthright citizenship were some of the worst he had ever seen on the campaign trail. “Occasionally you see a candidate try something like this, thinking they’re invincible, but no one can tumble that violently across the political spectrum and walk away unharmed. Sadly, the trauma was so severe that he may never make a full recovery.” At press time, Walker had reportedly been severed in half at the torso while attempting to simultaneously hold two completely divergent positions on economic inequality.
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Wish he would of endorsed Rubio. This guy can inspire. He is the answer to old gummed democrats running.
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Walker has an unfortunate look.
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Drunk Chris Parnell.
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Wish he would of endorsed Rubio. This guy can inspire. He is the answer to old gummed democrats running.
He endorsed literally every candidate that isn't Trump.
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id really enjoy it if renocat and tobias can collaborate on a nickname chart for the republican candidates remaining
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(https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/silver-gop-five-ring-circus-0921.png?w=610&h=613)
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Those vennnns don't match up with my perceptions very much
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i think we should establish what "establishment" means in this application
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seems about right iyam
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Carly is the shortest distance for them all to move to.
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seems about right iyam
Near perfect.
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Carly is the shortest distance for them all to move to.
Rubio is just to the right of Fiorina. SCIENCE!!
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Rubio is inspirational. I get a bigger thrill taking a monster movement than I get from other candidates. Trump speaks about optimism, but only fosters guttural anger.
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‘The body wasn’t even cold yet and Rubio's New Hampshire staff was picking off dazed Walker supporters,’ says one New Hampshire Republican.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/marco-rubio-wins-scott-walker-exit-politico-caucus-214037
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Rubio is inspirational. I get a bigger thrill taking a monster movement than I get from other candidates. Trump speaks about optimism, but only fosters guttural anger.
This seems to be what a whole lot of the far right want, though. Complain, get angry, have no real workable ideas.
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Rubio is inspirational. I get a bigger thrill taking a monster movement than I get from other candidates. Trump speaks about optimism, but only fosters guttural anger.
This seems to be what a whole lot of the far right want, though. Complain, get angry, have no real workable ideas.
I think "a whole lot" is a misnomer. What does he have? 30% support in the poles? So he has some support, but not a whole lot of it.
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Rubio is inspirational. I get a bigger thrill taking a monster movement than I get from other candidates. Trump speaks about optimism, but only fosters guttural anger.
This seems to be what a whole lot of the far right want, though. Complain, get angry, have no real workable ideas.
I think "a whole lot" is a misnomer. What does he have? 30% support in the poles? So he has some support, but not a whole lot of it.
Its been two weeks or so, and I have posted this back then, but he was listed as the first or second choice of the majority of pubs polled. Also, won 44% in a hypothetical poll btwn bush, himself, and carson.
I get the idea of a vocal minority. It seems like this is more than that.
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Rubio is inspirational. I get a bigger thrill taking a monster movement than I get from other candidates. Trump speaks about optimism, but only fosters guttural anger.
This seems to be what a whole lot of the far right want, though. Complain, get angry, have no real workable ideas.
I think "a whole lot" is a misnomer. What does he have? 30% support in the poles? So he has some support, but not a whole lot of it.
probably more than 30% near the poles, but i imagine support thins out closer to the center.
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NPR interviewed Rubio about Russia's relationship with Assad and made Rubio some really great points.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/28/443986579/marco-rubio-president-obama-has-strengthened-putins-hand
I have also heard murmurs that establishment support is moving from Jeb to Marco's camp.
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Rubio seems to be on a very good trajectory. He's going to shine at every debate - only Fiorina, Christie, and Cruz come close and even they aren't really in the same league. More importantly, he's doing decent with fundraising and is just now starting to build his ground game in the early primary states.
The more dead wood that gets cleared from the field, the stronger Rubio is going to burn. Jeb! folding in the next few months would be a bonanza for Rubio in terms of donor support. Still not sure that's going to happen, but there are reportedly rumblings that Jeb! is on the verge of risking donor defections due to his anemic polling.
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Republicans could do a lot worse than rubio
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only rubio and bush are capable of winning the general. everyone else is too repulsive, but thats what it takes to win the nomination
its the 'pub paradox and 'pubs should be freaking out about this
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only rubio and bush are capable of winning the general. everyone else is too repulsive, but thats what it takes to win the nomination
its the 'pub paradox and 'pubs should be freaking out about this
Not really. Candidates typically run more towards their base in the primary and try to tack a bit more to the center in the general. That's hardly a "paradox," or limited to the GOP. The Dems have an even tougher task than the GOP this year with Bernie Sanders - a socialist - currently topping some polls and Clinton imploding.
Moreover, Romney 2012 kinda disproves your point, doesn't it? Romney won the primary as the more moderate candidate - then lost the general because the conservative base stayed home.
And I would say that Rubio is the most likely to secure the nomination.
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no its a paradox and im totally right
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Sounds like a paradox :dunno:
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only rubio and bush are capable of winning the general. everyone else is too repulsive, but thats what it takes to win the nomination
its the 'pub paradox and 'pubs should be freaking out about this
Not really. Candidates typically run more towards their base in the primary and try to tack a bit more to the center in the general. That's hardly a "paradox," or limited to the GOP. The Dems have an even tougher task than the GOP this year with Bernie Sanders - a socialist - currently topping some polls and Clinton imploding.
Moreover, Romney 2012 kinda disproves your point, doesn't it? Romney won the primary as the more moderate candidate - then lost the general because the conservative base stayed home.
And I would say that Rubio is the most likely to secure the nomination.
The conservative base staying home is probably the most ridiculous thing that has happened on voting for a while. Giving up on a guy that isn't 100% your guy to all but ensure the guy who wins is an even smaller % your guy.
ReasonINO
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only rubio and bush are capable of winning the general. everyone else is too repulsive, but thats what it takes to win the nomination
its the 'pub paradox and 'pubs should be freaking out about this
Not really. Candidates typically run more towards their base in the primary and try to tack a bit more to the center in the general. That's hardly a "paradox," or limited to the GOP. The Dems have an even tougher task than the GOP this year with Bernie Sanders - a socialist - currently topping some polls and Clinton imploding.
Moreover, Romney 2012 kinda disproves your point, doesn't it? Romney won the primary as the more moderate candidate - then lost the general because the conservative base stayed home.
And I would say that Rubio is the most likely to secure the nomination.
The conservative base staying home is probably the most ridiculous thing that has happened on voting for a while. Giving up on a guy that isn't 100% your guy to all but ensure the guy who wins is an even smaller % your guy.
ReasonINO
And yet, it happened. And will almost certainly happen again in 2016 unless these candidates shape up. And I include Rubio on that list. Rubio's only signficant weakness is the Gang of Eight immigration fiasco. Ironically, I don't think this is going to keep him from the nomination, but it will cost him the general unless he takes a harder line stance.
Liberals and "moderates" will scoff at this, but I'm right. Not only will a hardline, enforcement first immigration policy not hurt the GOP, I think it will actually help them in heavy union/manufacturing states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
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I like rubio as a person, but he looks way in over his head in the debates and talks in constant robotic compassion voice. He should fix that instead of bowing to the nutters like ksuw
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In turn, it will chase off moderates, too. I understand that parties gather bases and let the moderates fall where they may, but it's crazy.
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I will never understand the "I don't like any of them, so I'm not going to vote" mentality.
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That's because you're a party shill
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I know talking about this is stupid, but campaigns seem to be getting more stupid. This is the first real questionable move the Rubio campaign has made. Its not that big of deal but gives opponents ammo for really no reason.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/28/for-250-you-can-save-a-rubio-staffer.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/28/for-250-you-can-save-a-rubio-staffer.html)
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I know talking about this is stupid, but campaigns seem to be getting more stupid. This is the first real questionable move the Rubio campaign has made. Its not that big of deal but gives opponents ammo for really no reason.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/28/for-250-you-can-save-a-rubio-staffer.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/28/for-250-you-can-save-a-rubio-staffer.html)
That's actually pretty funny. I like a campaign with a sense of humor.
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That's because you're a party shill
I don't always vote democrat.