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Please list things that you didn't like and liked about our most recent game.
Likes:
Silmon, Warmack, Davis, McDaniel, Dimel in pass routes, Bazooka throwing routes > 20yds, DL
Not Likes:
Bazooka running, Bazooka throwing routes under 8 yards, Jones, defensive backs not named McDaniel, Dimel running the ball, our punter (I mean for eff sake), WR's not named Davis.
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Things I'm not sure about:
OL, LB
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Cantele :thumbs:
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Likes:
Winning. Only 3 points allowed.
Not likes:
Settling for FGs. Not running Silmon more.
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Bazooka running is more a things I'm not sure about/kinda like column
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Likes:
Winning. Only 3 points allowed.
Not likes:
Settling for FGs. Not running Silmon more.
Fan, tell me what you think about Huebner. Just want your opinion.
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Burns was good in coverage. Geary and Britz were beasts. I want to see Silmon get carries when the defense isn't already worn out. The oline needs a lot of work.
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Likes: UTSA didn't score the last 55+ min, Hubener bombs, pass rush
Dislikes: penalties, Silmon only getting 6 carries, slow start
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I thought he did a lot of nice things. I like his patience as a runner. He threw nice deep balls. He seemed to get us in some good checks. No turnovers is a big plus.
He needs to manage the clock much better though. His short throws were rough. And he has to find ways not to take so many hits or he won't last. Granted, Snyder's offense leads to QB's getting hit, but he can help himself by not taking so many direct shots.
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I thought he did a lot of nice things. I like his patience as a runner. He threw nice deep balls. He seemed to get us in some good checks. No turnovers is a big plus.
He needs to manage the clock much better though. His short throws were rough. And he has to find ways not to take so many hits or he won't last. Granted, Snyder's offense leads to QB's getting hit, but he can help himself by not taking so many direct shots.
I feel like he's going to end up getting both legs amputated at the knees by the end of the year.
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He seems to get hit more middle low body where Collin took mostly shoulder hits. He'll get broken either way but maybe in a different part.
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Like, lower your shoulder... Or maybe not...probably doesn't matter
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He'll definitely be broken or concussed if he doesn't change a bit. I will say he's tougher than he looks, I thought several of those hits might break him.
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Would have liked to see Delton allowed to do something
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The Heath jersey thing is annoying still
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Less dimel/jones/bazooka runs. More other guys.
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Those bombs! 'Zooka J throws such a pretty long bomb.
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We didn't have many fans there
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That stud kid doing the KSU with their piece of trash mom acting like a piece of trash. Both adorable and infuriating.
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Our OL is kinda crappy
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
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Warmack sounded exciting in his limited time
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Is Barnett hurt hurt?
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Did Stiverson play?
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.
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Did Stiverson play?
I don't think so
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Please list things that you didn't like and liked about our most recent game.
Likes:
Silmon, Warmack, Davis, McDaniel, Dimel in pass routes, Bazooka throwing routes > 20yds, DL
Not Likes:
Bazooka running, Bazooka throwing routes under 8 yards, Jones, defensive backs not named McDaniel, Dimel running the ball, our punter (I mean for eff sake), WR's not named Davis.
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Things I'm not sure about:
OL, LB
Spot on
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I'm pretty sure laser is the only option for the Bazooka. He doesn't seem to have the touch on a deep ball. Also, he bounces and sails shorter sideline routes, Waters seemed to just sail them.
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Also, Davis appears to have solid WR abilities.
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Is Barnett hurt hurt?
yes, my diagnosis via replay was collar bone or shoulder.
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Could we get some oversized thigh pads for Joe? Seems like his thighs are not protected enough for his upright running style.
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That stud kid doing the KSU with their piece of trash mom acting like a piece of trash. Both adorable and infuriating.
yeah, I don't know why I didn't put that in my likes. that kid was fantastic.
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Also, I didn't put it in my not likes, cause I didn't know if it was just me and I was kind of nervous to bring it up, but is our center trying for a softball pitch arc when he snaps it in shotgun formation?
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Did not notice that cz, will watch for it next game
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Also, Davis appears to have solid WR abilities.
One of the biggest developments imo. Made Burton looking like trash much more tolerable.
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Burton can't, like, catch the ball. He's like a slower version of that necessary roughness QB.
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Did not notice that cz, will watch for it next game
it's not that big of a deal, I just didn't know if our shotgun snaps need a hangtime clock on them.
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
Yeah, I wonder it will come back with Delton. He doesn't seem built to run the Collin Klein offense (too short, is that a reason?)
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Is it a dimel thing? He just hates the options guts?
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I don't see Zooka Joe being real quick to get around the corner anyway.
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That run by Warmack :love:
nice to see speed with him and Silmon. i forgot what it looked like
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Yeah, I'm excited for a Delton backfield with either of those two
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
There were a few read options and at least one stretch option with QB power. I'd say 5-7 snaps of option concepts.
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
There were a few read options and at least one stretch option with QB power. I'd say 5-7 snaps of option concepts.
Shut up fan
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
There were a few read options and at least one stretch option with QB power. I'd say 5-7 snaps of option concepts.
Shut up fan
:D
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Yeah, I'm excited for a Delton backfield with either of those two
Why not run the diamond formation with both of them in there?
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
Lazers for me. bombs are nice too, but always had the feeling we got lucky, even though Waters consistently completed them. Feel like Hubener could fire out lazers all day. Seems like a tradition now to start out throwing short passes in the dirt.
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I thought he did a lot of nice things. I like his patience as a runner. He threw nice deep balls. He seemed to get us in some good checks. No turnovers is a big plus.
He needs to manage the clock much better though. His short throws were rough. And he has to find ways not to take so many hits or he won't last. Granted, Snyder's offense leads to QB's getting hit, but he can help himself by not taking so many direct shots.
No TOs by the offense was great.
No TOs by the D thru two games, not so much.
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Dislike- the same play being ran twice in a row because Dimel's daddy is the offensive coordinator and daddy really wanted to give the TD to his little boy.
Like- Delton. Western Kansas represent!
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I asked in chat if warmack would get a chance, but was told no cause he sucks. But then he didn't suck.
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I asked in chat if warmack would get a chance, but was told no cause he sucks. But then he didn't suck.
I don't remember this at all, I remember the chat being very pro Warmack.
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I asked in chat if warmack would get a chance, but was told no cause he sucks. But then he didn't suck.
I don't remember this at all, I remember the chat being very pro Warmack.
It was after he got his chance
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Positives: Cantele might not choke 100% of the time anymore.
Also, that Will Geary suplex (think it was him) was pretty BA. Plus also, that Davis guy seems to be pretty good.
Plus also as well: 3 points in two games.
Negatives: Just watching some other Big 12 games, I'd probably rather have any other team's QB right now, even though I still like Bazooka Joe.
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Positives: Cantele might not choke 100% of the time anymore.
Also, that Will Geary suplex (think it was him) was pretty BA. Plus also, that Davis guy seems to be pretty good.
Plus also as well: 3 points in two games.
Negatives: Just watching some other Big 12 games, I'd probably rather have any other team's QB right now, even though I still like Bazooka Joe.
Have you been watching OU?
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Positives: Cantele might not choke 100% of the time anymore.
Also, that Will Geary suplex (think it was him) was pretty BA. Plus also, that Davis guy seems to be pretty good.
Plus also as well: 3 points in two games.
Negatives: Just watching some other Big 12 games, I'd probably rather have any other team's QB right now, even though I still like Bazooka Joe.
Have you been watching OU?
I'll wait for a statistically significant sample size first, but I know Hubes missed a lot of pretty easy passes. If he doesn't shore that up quickly, decent teams will have a field day with us.
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.
our WRs have such terrible hands. maybe moonshotz would land softer?
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Positives: Cantele might not choke 100% of the time anymore.
Also, that Will Geary suplex (think it was him) was pretty BA. Plus also, that Davis guy seems to be pretty good.
Plus also as well: 3 points in two games.
Negatives: Just watching some other Big 12 games, I'd probably rather have any other team's QB right now, even though I still like Bazooka Joe.
Have you been watching OU?
I'll wait for a statistically significant sample size first, but I know Hubes missed a lot of pretty easy passes. If he doesn't shore that up quickly, decent teams will have a field day with us.
Joe has only taken a meaningful snap in two football games in his entire life. I think he will improve faster than most QBs do because he shouldn't be nearly as close to his ceiling as a typical college QB is.
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.
our WRs have such terrible hands. maybe moonshotz would land softer?
Moonshots are only better if you have a wide receiver who's managed to get himself wide open deep downfield.
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Our passing attack game-plan needs to be better. I don't know what we were trying to achieve with it.
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Positives: Cantele might not choke 100% of the time anymore.
Also, that Will Geary suplex (think it was him) was pretty BA. Plus also, that Davis guy seems to be pretty good.
Plus also as well: 3 points in two games.
Negatives: Just watching some other Big 12 games, I'd probably rather have any other team's QB right now, even though I still like Bazooka Joe.
Have you been watching OU?
I'll wait for a statistically significant sample size first, but I know Hubes missed a lot of pretty easy passes. If he doesn't shore that up quickly, decent teams will have a field day with us.
Joe has only taken a meaningful snap in two football games in his entire life. I think he will improve faster than most QBs do because he shouldn't be nearly as close to his ceiling as a typical college QB is.
This is probably true, which is why I said "right now." I do think we have a pretty solid running game, and if Hubes can shore up the intermediate passing, we could have a solid offense IF the WRs step up.
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I really like Bazooka Joe as a runner. Have since last season. He's Klein-esque. I think if he can continue to connect on some deep throws we will be in good shape, he needs to improve on the sideline throws and the short passes, but he's shown a QB that could win 9 games this year if this D is legit.
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He's patient, he holds onto the ball, he doesn't panic, I like his boring ass for what it is ('cept dem long bombs ain't boring!)
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I really hope this game was a coming out for Andre. We aren't going to get past seven wins if Burton and Cook are the go to receivers.
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I really hope this game was a coming out for Andre. We aren't going to get past seven wins if Burton and Cook are the go to receivers.
This. But also I really want Cook to be good so we can call him Captain Cook.
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I really hope this game was a coming out for Andre. We aren't going to get past seven wins if Burton and Cook are the go to receivers.
This. But also I really want Cook to be good so we can call him Captain Cook.
He catches more like Captain Hook right now. Ba dump bump.
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I really hope this game was a coming out for Andre. We aren't going to get past seven wins if Burton and Cook are the go to receivers.
This. But also I really want Cook to be good so we can call him Captain Cook.
He catches more like Captain Hook right now. Ba dump bump.
2.5 tacos
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I asked in chat if warmack would get a chance, but was told no cause he sucks. But then he didn't suck.
I don't remember this at all, I remember the chat being very pro Warmack.
I don't remember it either. Are we sure this everyone shut up guy was even in the chat?
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Likes: win
Dislikes: we had to play in a dome
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Our passing attack game-plan needs to be better. I don't know what we were trying to achieve with it.
I love it and I bet everyone else who watched KSU 1997-2000 does too. #BombsAway
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Our passing attack game-plan needs to be better. I don't know what we were trying to achieve with it.
I love it and I bet everyone else who watched KSU 1997-2000 does too. #BombsAway
Yeah, it was great. UTSA put 8 or 9 in the box and we tried to beat them deep in one on one coverage. Snyder was intent on ramming Hubener and Jones against that front early and finally opened it up.
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The other good thing is no picks. The biggest knock I've heard about Hubener from the past is that he had a strong arm but didn't show the ability to throw accurate and often forced things in practice leading to interceptions. This was a big reason Ertz won the job, but so far Hubener doesn't seem to have that problem though maybe tougher competition will bring that out.
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Is the Crane broken?
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This was a trap game and everyone knew it, but we shut the haterzzzzz up. Go cats! Still can't believe hubs last start at qb was HS JV. Another great "family" story for K-State ;)
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likes: Jerry MAcgwire, Space Jams, Dunks, etc
dislikes: royals2ksu_fans' signature because it's gonna give me a goddamn seizure change that thing like yesterday or stop posting
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I went back and watched every play on offense. I completely agree with the observations about the absurd paradox on Hubes' long balls being nice and the short stuff being really bad. How does that happen? Seems Chuck Knoblockish to me.
I don't think Hubes is a "good" runner at all. I think he made some opportunistic decisions (which is good). I am no Bear Bryant, but I personally don't expect to see those kinds of opportunities available when we play Big 12 games (KU notwithstanding). I also agree that he will be injured early and often with that upright running style.
I wasn't convinced by a single thing in our running game. Did not like it. Those were non-power 5 yards yesterday. I fully expect us to struggle massively running the ball in the Big 12. This is probably why we throw deep so much, merely to open up the running game a little bit.
Burton is infuriating. Cody Cooks Can Catch. Davis and Heath are encouraging.
Not too many people talking about how we have burned Delton's redshirt. I see that as huge. I know we can still red shirt him in a later year (Beasley), but with Hubes' absurd collision style of running and our inability to move the ball in short yardage situations any other way, Delton is going to get a chance to play this year. Once he does, I pray he puts a choke hold on this thing (until Bill and Dana spaghetti brain him).
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At times there is so much WTF in Dana Dimel play calling.
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At times there is so much WTF in Dana Dimel play calling.
If only he had your brain!
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Wut
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Delton burning a redshirt is not that talked about because it was absolutely necessary. It sounds like Delton is the clear #2 QB this year, and you do not want him waiting on the sidelines without a single in game snap.
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Delton burning a redshirt is not that talked about because it was absolutely necessary. It sounds like Delton is the clear #2 QB this year, and you do not want him waiting on the sidelines without a single in game snap.
I completely agree, but it also would not have happened with a healthy Ertz. I want Delton to start NOW. Let's take our lumps with him and invest in the future. Hubes is a waste of time, IMO.
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I went back and watched every play on offense. I completely agree with the observations about the absurd paradox on Hubes' long balls being nice and the short stuff being really bad. How does that happen? Seems Chuck Knoblockish to me.
I don't think Hubes is a "good" runner at all. I think he made some opportunistic decisions (which is good). I am no Bear Bryant, but I personally don't expect to see those kinds of opportunities available when we play Big 12 games (KU notwithstanding). I also agree that he will be injured early and often with that upright running style.
I wasn't convinced by a single thing in our running game. Did not like it. Those were non-power 5 yards yesterday. I fully expect us to struggle massively running the ball in the Big 12. This is probably why we throw deep so much, merely to open up the running game a little bit.
Burton is infuriating. Cody Cooks Can Catch. Davis and Heath are encouraging.
Not too many people talking about how we have burned Delton's redshirt. I see that as huge. I know we can still red shirt him in a later year (Beasley), but with Hubes' absurd collision style of running and our inability to move the ball in short yardage situations any other way, Delton is going to get a chance to play this year. Once he does, I pray he puts a choke hold on this thing (until Bill and Dana spaghetti brain him).
1. Re: short/long throws. It is actually a bit more typical than you think and he seems at least as competent a thrower as sophomore Ell or Junior yr Klein. I am encouraged thus far. They both struggled with zipping accurate balls out on bubble screens/slants/hitches and overthrew or bounced throws. But they both developed in to very effective passers within the system that did more than keep D's offense, they hurt other teams with big pocket throws on 3rd down and play-action deep. IT IS EARLY!!
2. Go back and look at film of Klein, or hell go back and look at film of Jonathan Beasley running. You will see slow/plodding/"lucky" runs. It is patience reading the blocks and a good understanding of how to cut back against overpursuit. There will absolutely be times when he gets hit for a 3-5 yard loss or is stuffed at the hole. As long as he isn't fumbling a la Waters, it won't be that bad and you will appreciate all the yards he does get. The 3rd down scrambles for 1st downs are absolutely crushing for defenses and particularly with our TOP offensive scheme they will pay big dividends beyond even beyond the immediate gains. I am not simply relying on watching Hubes this year, but also how well he looked in garbage time last year against UT and TCU who both have solid D's with solid athletes. He was fantastic. I am encouraged by QB run game.
3. The RB by committee thus far has not been effective. I think Warmack and Silmon are clearly showing more than Jones, but a lot of his specialty has been taken over by Dimel. I agree that the RZ use of Dimel has been annoying, but it has been stubbornly effective and he is as good as Gronk in the system already, he is a player. I think our pop passing game is still a threat and I hope to see some more wrinkles off of it in conference season. Again, it is early, but there are legit concerns here that teams will be able to stop the running game with only 7 or 8 in the box.
4. The WR is concerning. Heath is ok, but is always going to have a lot of limitations given his size/speed/hands. He has been helpful so far. Cody Cook seems to be our best possession guy/willing and able to go over the middle. Burton, and I am not trying to be too mean here, is a slightly better catching Terrell Miller without any of the blocking ability. Feel free to call that Preslumptuous . Davis has been ok thus far. A lack of explosiveness/YAC/deep threats is my biggest concern.
5. The Defense is legit. I am concerned by the lack of big plays, turnovers, and QB pressure but Geary and Britz seem very capable against the run and Bryant, Davis, McDaniel and Burns are all playmakers, losing Barnett has hurt, but so far so good.
6. Special Teams unclear. Not sure what we will get out of this yet. How long is McCrane out? Leg injuries for kickers, even if it is the plant foot are NOT good. KO returns have been pretty good thus far, but both punt units have been poor. I am very concerned if we get in to a bad way with our kicking game as we need that margin in our favor to get past 7 wins.
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Delton burning a redshirt is not that talked about because it was absolutely necessary. It sounds like Delton is the clear #2 QB this year, and you do not want him waiting on the sidelines without a single in game snap.
I completely agree, but it also would not have happened with a healthy Ertz. I want Delton to start NOW. Let's take our lumps with him and invest in the future. Hubes is a waste of time, IMO.
What are you watching? I am all for Delton getting snaps this year, but I don't see the need to rush him. Maybe I will feel differently after our first loss, but Hubes seems very capable of going 9-3 with this defense and this schedule.
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Delton burning a redshirt is not that talked about because it was absolutely necessary. It sounds like Delton is the clear #2 QB this year, and you do not want him waiting on the sidelines without a single in game snap.
I completely agree, but it also would not have happened with a healthy Ertz. I want Delton to start NOW. Let's take our lumps with him and invest in the future. Hubes is a waste of time, IMO.
Give him a year to learn and get bigger and better while we beat up another QB. He'll start next year and for the years after that. No reason to get our future injured in a year he can't do much any way.
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I want Bazooka Joe, Silmon and Gronkowski in the backfield.
That is all.
:crossfingers:
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
There were a few read options and at least one stretch option with QB power. I'd say 5-7 snaps of option concepts.
that's not what i'm talking about fan and you know that.
:don'tcare:
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seems like the option has completely been eliminated from our playbook. kind of a bummer.
There were a few read options and at least one stretch option with QB power. I'd say 5-7 snaps of option concepts.
that's not what i'm talking about fan and you know that.
:don'tcare:
Maybe Hubes can't pitch the ball. :dunno:
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Any insider news on Stiverson? Seems like we're really missing him. Hayes and Kleisorge have been pretty terrible so far.
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Kat kid is full of crap. Hubes is poop!
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
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I mean, I guess I will grant you that Heubner can indeed throw very long balls that our receivers are not good at catching.
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Every one wants delton, pete. Not sure who you are lobbying here?
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Delton burning a redshirt is not that talked about because it was absolutely necessary. It sounds like Delton is the clear #2 QB this year, and you do not want him waiting on the sidelines without a single in game snap.
I completely agree, but it also would not have happened with a healthy Ertz. I want Delton to start NOW. Let's take our lumps with him and invest in the future. Hubes is a waste of time, IMO.
Did you stomp your foot like a child with that, "I want Delton to start NOW." statement?
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
What in the world?!
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Every one wants delton, pete. Not sure who you are lobbying here?
Stupid Kat Kid is who!
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I WILL SHOW KAT KID!
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
What in the world?!
No gE, man. Hubes is the worst, IMO, since before Chad. I really can't see how that is that bold of a statement.
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IDK if you remember schwin, but I can guarantee you that the last three words of his last name, is the opposite of what he did for us.
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G^2 and Coffman reeked poop daily. Webb and Dylan too.
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Until I see Bazooka Joe pitch it to a Defensive End , Schwin will retain the title.
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Every one wants delton, pete. Not sure who you are lobbying here?
Stupid Kat Kid is who!
Oh so he did. Carry on with the assault.
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Remember our Nic, Vic, and Thick goal line package? That's where I want to see Winston used, I have seen enough of him as a single back. Someone think of a catchy nickname of a Gronk, Dimel, and Silmon backfield.
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Likes: Only points came from 51 yard field goal. Joe's long arm.
Dislikes: First half kinda sucked. Joe's short arm.
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The QB situation this year is already better than 04 or 05. Hubes is better than Evridge/Webb and probably Meier.
And that's with Ertz injured.
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The QB situation this year is already better than 04 or 05. Hubes is better than Evridge/Webb and probably Meier.
And that's with Ertz injured.
Evridge went on to start games at Wisconsin. He was better than Hubes, come on man.
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The QB situation this year is already better than 04 or 05. Hubes is better than Evridge/Webb and probably Meier.
And that's with Ertz injured.
Evridge went on to start games at Wisconsin. He was better than Hubes, come on man.
Not while he was at State. He was barely marginal.
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Evridge was better. better at getting destroyed
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But for a Tearious George personal foul, Evridge wins is the game at Lincoln, almost without throwing a single pass.
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You people do realize that they ONLY QB's who you will say are worse than Hubes (save for Schwinn) are those that resulted in the only non-bowl game years since 1992, right?
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But for a Tearious George personal foul, Evridge wins is the game at Lincoln, almost without throwing a single pass.
lol, he threw 27 of them (completed 5, intercepted once). We were in that game late but it was despite terrible QB play.
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our offense has serious problems. qb play isn't in the top 3 of those problems.
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Remember our Nic, Vic, and Thick goal line package? That's where I want to see Winston used, I have seen enough of him as a single back. Someone think of a catchy nickname of a Gronk, Dimel, and Silmon backfield.
Glenn, Win and Thin (huebner)
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our offense has serious problems. qb play isn't in the top 3 of those problems.
don't tease us, what are the top three?
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Evridge was better. better at getting destroyed
The very best. It's like whenever he saw a defender coming he just froze and stood there on his tippy toes.
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The QB situation this year is already better than 04 or 05. Hubes is better than Evridge/Webb and probably Meier.
And that's with Ertz injured.
Evridge went on to start games at Wisconsin. He was better than Hubes, come on man.
He also sucked for them.
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our offense has serious problems. qb play isn't in the top 3 of those problems.
don't tease us, what are the top three?
1. WR
2. Charles Jones
3. Run Blocking
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But for a Tearious George personal foul, Evridge wins is the game at Lincoln, almost without throwing a single pass.
lol, he threw 27 of them (completed 5, intercepted once). We were in that game late but it was despite terrible QB play.
holy crap he was 5/27, that is real. the things you forget.
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Remember Smargesso? That guy was a totem pole stuck in concrete.
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our offense has serious problems. qb play isn't in the top 3 of those problems.
don't tease us, what are the top three?
1. WR
2. Charles Jones
3. Run Blocking
Run blocking seemed fine for the other two tailbacks
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our offense has serious problems. qb play isn't in the top 3 of those problems.
don't tease us, what are the top three?
1. WR
2. Charles Jones
3. Run Blocking
Run blocking seemed fine for the other two tailbacks
i still put that above qb play
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Remember our Nic, Vic, and Thick goal line package? That's where I want to see Winston used, I have seen enough of him as a single back. Someone think of a catchy nickname of a Gronk, Dimel, and Silmon backfield.
Glenn, Win and Thin (huebner)
Pretty good but the 3rd needs to be Jones, Silmon, or Warmack. Nic, Vic, and Thick was a 3 back set.
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nah jones silmon and warmack's names all screw it up. they're not allowed in.
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
What in the world?!
No gE, man. Hubes is the worst, IMO, since before Chad. I really can't see how that is that bold of a statement.
You are wrong. Allen Evridge, for starters. Go back and look at the completion percentages of soph and junior Ell or the number of turnovers during the late snyder era.
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I see a hot sizzling steak in Delton and Silmon/Warmack. And I am forced to eat Cream of Wheat in Hubes and Jones.
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I see a hot sizzling steak in Delton and Silmon/Warmack. And I am forced to eat Cream of Wheat in Hubes and Jones.
I think you're seeing hot sizzling steak vs 3rd stringers.
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I see a hot sizzling steak in Delton and Silmon/Warmack. And I am forced to eat Cream of Wheat in Hubes and Jones.
the king is back. long live the king
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I see a hot sizzling steak in Delton and Silmon/Warmack. And I am forced to eat Cream of Wheat in Hubes and Jones.
I think you're seeing hot sizzling steak vs 3rd stringers.
Delton and Warmack are pure hot sex on wheels, regardless of the competition they're playing
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Likes: Weather was 72 degrees all game. Beer was served. Riverwalk breakfast this morning was delicious.
Dislikes: Not much
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
What in the world?!
No gE, man. Hubes is the worst, IMO, since before Chad. I really can't see how that is that bold of a statement.
You are wrong. Allen Evridge, for starters. Go back and look at the completion percentages of soph and junior Ell or the number of turnovers during the late snyder era.
OK, OK, Hubes is only the second worst. You guys win, I fold.
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:lol:
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I see a hot sizzling steak in Delton and Silmon/Warmack. And I am forced to eat Cream of Wheat in Hubes and Jones.
I think you're seeing hot sizzling steak vs 3rd stringers.
Silmon and Warmack got their carries against starters bub.
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Dylan (RIP) was better than Bazooka Joe. Mostly because of that hair :love:
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I'm beginning to think that Bazooka Joe is going to be just fine at QB. I don't really like how emotional he is on the field though.
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I'm beginning to think that Bazooka Joe is going to be just fine at QB. I don't really like how emotional he is on the field though.
I think it's kind of fun, because I share the same emotions when he fucks up.
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I don't think Hubes was nearly as bad as what some of you are saying.
I will say that Wacks has turned into a huge tuck who probably needs to take it on over to Wabash Station.
Del and Dana still pull some unbelievably bad stuff out of the playbook
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Maybe I'm in a weird mood, but I really enjoyed watching the last two games. :billdance: Maybe it's having very low expectations this year.
Although, something tells me that mid-season me will look back at this me and think I was being douchey or something.
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It's debatable, but I think Heubner is the very worst quarterback to start a game for LHC Bill Snyder since 1993.
Jeff Schwin is a decent argument, but I would still take Jeff. I think Dylan and both Allen's were better runners and better short passers.
What in the world?!
No gE, man. Hubes is the worst, IMO, since before Chad. I really can't see how that is that bold of a statement.
You are wrong. Allen Evridge, for starters. Go back and look at the completion percentages of soph and junior Ell or the number of turnovers during the late snyder era.
OK, OK, Hubes is only the second worst. You guys win, I fold.
Brian Kavanaugh
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Grant Gregory
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Marc Dunn
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Dylan Meier (sorry Dyls)
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Allen Webb
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Carson Coffman
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Collin Klein junior season
Ell Roberson soph
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Carson Coffman
Enough is enough, you are out of line.
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Here are the benchmarks he has to hit to get to Klein/Roberson 1st year starter territory:
Klein 2011
Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
161 281 57.3 1918 6.8 6.8 13 6 125.6
Rushing
Plays Yds Avg TD
317 1141 3.6 27
Roberson 2001
Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
54 136 39.7 855 6.3 4.2 4 8 90.5
Rushing
Plays Yds Avg TD
142 643 4.5 9
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He will do better than Roberson and worse than Klein.
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Coffman JR year
Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
6 71 117 60.7 860 7.4 6.2 2 4 121.2
Rushing
Plays Yds Avg TD
54 64 1.2 2
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He's been better than H3O in a lot of the categories I look for in a Cat QB. He's far from ideal, but still.
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If the oline can learn to block better on running plays and we find one legitimate deep threat I think we can have a solid nine to ten win season. And Bazooka's stats will end up being better than Beasley's first year stats if he isn't killed midseason....or this offense could end up as shitty as 09 and we end up with six wins and a sucky bowl. What an exciting time for K-State Cats football.
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He's been better than H3O in a lot of the categories I look for in a Cat QB. He's far from ideal, but still.
Did have a redzone TO. but 2-0 record is good.
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He's been better than H3O in a lot of the categories I look for in a Cat QB. He's far from ideal, but still.
Did have a redzone TO. but 2-0 record is good.
Doesn't get sacked whenever the D penetrates (lol, enterprise, etc.), no 3&O's that I recall, and hasn't lost to a D2 team.
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He's been better than H3O in a lot of the categories I look for in a Cat QB. He's far from ideal, but still.
Did have a redzone TO. but 2-0 record is good.
Doesn't get sacked whenever the D penetrates (lol, enterprise, etc.), no 3&O's that I recall, and hasn't lost to a D2 team.
we value a lot of the same things
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He's been better than H3O in a lot of the categories I look for in a Cat QB. He's far from ideal, but still.
Did have a redzone TO. but 2-0 record is good.
Doesn't get sacked whenever the D penetrates (lol, enterprise, etc.), no 3&O's that I recall, and hasn't lost to a D2 team.
we value a lot of the same things
The bar's been set pretty low recently.
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What an enjoyable read... So many clueless dumbasses outing themselves despite _Fan & KK *trying* to offer a clue.
We are 2-0 & have outscored our two opponents 64-3 thus far with almost entirely all new skill position players and everybody's bitching about something.
It ain't perfect, but based on everybody's pre-season doom & gloom predictos, it's obviously way better than expected.
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I don't think I've been this excited about a QB after 2 starts (1 technically, but still) since Josh Freeman.
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What an enjoyable read... So many clueless dumbasses outing themselves despite _Fan & KK *trying* to offer a clue.
We are 2-0 & have outscored our two opponents 64-3 thus far with almost entirely all new skill position players and everybody's bitching about something.
It ain't perfect, but based on everybody's pre-season doom & gloom predictos, it's obviously way better than expected.
not everyone had pre-season doom & gloom predictions
no one predicted we would lose either of our first two games, we won them as we should have
no one knows how good this team is at this point in the season
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bookie pimp calling other people dumbasses :lol:
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bookie pimp calling other people dumbasses :lol:
I see your hard on for me has lasted more than 4 weeks... probably time to call a doctor.
:popcorn:
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Remember our Nic, Vic, and Thick goal line package? That's where I want to see Winston used, I have seen enough of him as a single back. Someone think of a catchy nickname of a Gronk, Dimel, and Silmon backfield.
Glenn, Win and Thin (huebner)
Pretty good but the 3rd needs to be Jones, Silmon, or Warmack. Nic, Vic, and Thick was a 3 back set.
Winnie and the Pooh's
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Glenn, Win, and, 'stin.
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What an enjoyable read... So many clueless dumbasses outing themselves despite _Fan & KK *trying* to offer a clue.
We are 2-0 & have outscored our two opponents 64-3 thus far with almost entirely all new skill position players and everybody's bitching about something.
It ain't perfect, but based on everybody's pre-season doom & gloom predictos, it's obviously way better than expected.
I think most expected to be 3-0 to start the season. It's the next 5 games in a row that could very easily all be Ls.
that's a concern.
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What an enjoyable read... So many clueless dumbasses outing themselves despite _Fan & KK *trying* to offer a clue.
We are 2-0 & have outscored our two opponents 64-3 thus far with almost entirely all new skill position players and everybody's bitching about something.
It ain't perfect, but based on everybody's pre-season doom & gloom predictos, it's obviously way better than expected.
I think most expected to be 3-0 to start the season. It's the next 5 games in a row that could very easily all be Ls.
that's a concern.
My point is that while most everybody expected 2-0 &/or 3-0, most everybody also predicted that we'd "barely win" these first couple games... Not everybody, but a lion's share of the predictos were like that.
This team is WAY better at this point of the season than even I expected and I was pretty optimistic based on reports from current players & coaches that I've gotten.
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Glenn, Win, and, 'stin.
Oh man, that's the one!
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Just Gronk Dim
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Dim Gronks Jo'
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Dim Gronks Jo'
I enjoy this
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Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat
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I like the thought that if we get down late in a game we don't have to accept defeat (Kleins junior year) because bazooka Joe can find a man deep.
I don't like that every pass seems to be behind and low so the receivers have to go to the ground to catch it. I think we only got a handful of catches that allowed the receivers to keep running and earn yards after the catch.
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like: deep bombs
don't like: that Bazooka won't have enough time to throw deep bombs against better competition
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I like the thought that if we get down late in a game we don't have to accept defeat (Kleins junior year) because bazooka Joe can find a man deep.
I don't like that every pass seems to be behind and low so the receivers have to go to the ground to catch it. I think we only got a handful of catches that allowed the receivers to keep running and earn yards after the catch.
after seeing how many balls Burton dropped last game, yards after catch should be the least of our concerns. let's just focus on the catch part. baby steps.
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I am choosing to support Heubner. I have decided that that is the right thing to do.
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I still love the crap out of Delton, don't get me wrong on that one.
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silmon should go deep every 3 plays. he needs the ball.
thoughts?
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Glenn, Win, and, 'stin.
Yes! it also works for Warmack
Glenn, Win and, 'vin
sorry Charlie
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I am choosing to support Heubner. I have decided that that is the right thing to do.
good man. I mean, anybody with Bazooka in his name ought to be worthy of support.
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
I already posted this itt bro, except I didn't have to type it out.
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come on MIR, don't suppress the zeal!
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Dimel has lots of goaline carries, i think his average will rise. Like: Will Davis
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Yeah, how about Will Davis? There's someone who I fully expected to suck huge ass but was seemingly fine.
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Yeah, how about Will Davis? There's someone who I fully expected to suck huge ass but was seemingly fine.
we'll see on him. not sold on his not suckiness just yet. he did have a nice pass deflection at the goal line when our entire secondary forgot that in football you're allowed a forward pass.
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.
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The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.
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The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.
Nothing like benching the one guy who continuously gets us national media attention.
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The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.
Nothing like benching the one guy who continuously gets us national media attention.
Retaining popular people isn't a kstatesports objective.
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I'm furious about it. A normal coach/father wouldn't give their son any carries until maybe his senior year to make sure people didn't think he was favoring him.
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I'm furious about it. A normal person wouldn't give their son any carries until maybe his senior year to make sure people didn't think he was favoring him.
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I coached my 6 year old daughters t-ball team this summer and she rode the bench the entire year, because I'm actually a good coach/father.
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.
Except they're not. He got several carries Saturday in 5+ yards to go situations. Those are the ones most of us want him not to get because he is not a good option for those situations. He's good, maybe great as a short yardage back/lead blocker, but bad at longer distances.
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.
Except they're not. He got several carries Saturday in 5+ yards to go situations. Those are the ones most of us want him not to get because he is not a good option for those situations. He's good, maybe great as a short yardage back/lead blocker, but bad at longer distances.
Agreed. That trip over the lineman's legs was extremely :facepalm:.
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Dimel's use is pretty simple.
In the field, he's a blocker and a pass route threat; his primary role as a runner is as a redzone back.
Of his 16 carries, 14 have come inside the redzone. The other 2 where inside the opponent's 30. 10 have come in goal to goal situations. The logic seems to be that the coaching staff trusts him as a tough runner who will stay downhill and get positive yards. This seems to be true as he only has 1 negative yardage carry in these situations. I don't believe that they think Gronk has this skill set as he has very few carries in any situation. My take is that Gronk is faster and a better athlete, but Dimel is a little more compact and a better downhill runner and blocker.
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I'm not going against you _FAN because that's obviously what the staff thinks, but to suggest that Gronk, given Dimel's 16 carries, wouldn't have avg'd 2.9 yards a carry and as many touchdowns is just silly.
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I'm not going against you _FAN because that's obviously what the staff thinks, but to suggest that Gronk, given Dimel's 16 carries, wouldn't have avg'd 2.9 yards a carry and as many touchdowns is just silly.
I don't necessarily disagree. My assumption comes from their usage and some things I've heard. Winston already has twice as many carries in his career as Gronk.
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There's no denying Dimel's skill set. He's definitely better at being the offensive coordinators son than everyone else.
I don't dislike Winston Dimel it just rubs me the wrong way is all.
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I never heard anybody clamoring for more Gronk carries until Dana and Julie Dimel Family Fullback entered the picture.
seems to me this argument has less to do with Gronk's running ability and more to do with disliking Dana Dimel.
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I never heard anybody clamoring for more Gronk carries until Dana and Julie Dimel Family Fullback entered the picture.
seems to me this argument has less to do with Gronk's running ability and more to do with disliking Dana Dimel.
To me its curious that a coaching staff that almost always chooses to play the incumbent starter ahead of the any newcomer (no matter how talented the newcomer) until either a) the incumbent plays himself out of the role or b) new comer proves himself on ST or with excellent, sustained play in mop-up duty now finds itself with a position player who did neither before earning playing time.
I'm not saying Dimel isn't good but it seems as though he skipped through the first few steps and was virtually anointed into being an integral part of our offense. So yeah, dad and stuff.
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Mods, please add "(another Winston Dimel thread)" to the title for accuracy. Thanks.
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
I don't like it about myself. But I am pretty set in my ways.
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Those bombs! 'Zooka J throws such a pretty long bomb.
SD, your name for BJ is spreading like wildfire across the sports world. :Carl:
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.
This is true per eye test last year. None of the present WR's could catch a Waters pass, but do seem to be able to catch a few BJ laser beams.
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fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:
waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs. which is preferable? both are aesthetically pleasing.
I just started reading this thread and responded to your post not realizing you would elaborate on your earlier post. #shouldhaveknowen
I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
I don't like it about myself. But I am pretty set in my ways.
i screwed the pooch on my post. meant to say: not like
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The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).
Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.
Dimel has the lowest average on the team.
Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.
I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.
I need more Gronk!!!!! 2 carries 8.0 per carry :emawkid:
I also need lots more Silmon!!! 12 carries 7.6 per carry :ksu:
All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.
Nope, considering he has 3 goal line TDs in 16 carries
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Dimel's use is pretty simple.
In the field, he's a blocker and a pass route threat; his primary role as a runner is as a redzone back.
Of his 16 carries, 14 have come inside the redzone. The other 2 where inside the opponent's 30. 10 have come in goal to goal situations. The logic seems to be that the coaching staff trusts him as a tough runner who will stay downhill and get positive yards. This seems to be true as he only has 1 negative yardage carry in these situations. I don't believe that they think Gronk has this skill set as he has very few carries in any situation. My take is that Gronk is faster and a better athlete, but Dimel is a little more compact and a better downhill runner and blocker.
How many negative yardage carries does Charles Jones have period, because like #FamilyFullback, it seems like a whole lot of 0-3 yard carries?
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
What else are the coaches being questioned about?
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
What else are the coaches being questioned about?
lol
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
I don't like it about myself. But I am pretty set in my ways.
i screwed the pooch on my post. meant to say: not like
Me too, bro
LUUUUUKE
Because, you know, someone is his rough ride'n father.
:dunno: :ksu:
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
What else are the coaches being questioned about?
coaching
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like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way
What else are the coaches being questioned about?
lol
i mean the list is pretty long and consists of almost- every starter, every back up, every play call, every recruiting decision, every BSFS decision...there's more I'm just tired right now and am going to bed
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there's an 85 response thread bitching about out fullback
-too many snaps
-wrong full back getting snaps
-general goEMAW hilarious miscellany but not really hilarious pointing out other FB coaching guffaws
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there's an 85 response thread bitching about out fullback
-too many snaps
-wrong full back getting snaps
-general goEMAW hilarious miscellany but not really hilarious pointing out other FB coaching guffaws
So just Winston Dimel, okay. Good night old man.
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If anything this thread should be more critical of the coaches. This is a message board for eff sakes.
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This is why I actually like Steve Dave and not the fake "jump on his nuts" like Steve Dave.
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(But that's not really fake either)
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If anything this thread should be more critical of the coaches. This is a message board for eff sakes.
if anything
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for eff sakes
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for effs sakes
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i don't know what you're talking about :users:
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How long is McCrane out?
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard anything?
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there's an 85 response thread bitching about out fullback
-too many snaps
-wrong full back getting snaps
-general goEMAW hilarious miscellany but not really hilarious pointing out other FB coaching guffaws
So just Winston Dimel, okay. Good night old man.
I'd also add bazooka/ertz/delton and Jones/Silmon/Warmack for starters.
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How long is McCrane out?
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard anything?
Also, I think a powerrespect on the other site is suggesting Delton is now injured. Any bits of tid would be appreciated.
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How long is McCrane out?
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard anything?
Also, I think a powerrespect on the other site is suggesting Delton is now injured. Any bits of tid would be appreciated.
My sources are telling me ACL.
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there's an 85 response thread bitching about out fullback
-too many snaps
-wrong full back getting snaps
-general goEMAW hilarious miscellany but not really hilarious pointing out other FB coaching guffaws
So just Winston Dimel, okay. Good night old man.
I'd also add bazooka/ertz/delton and Jones/Silmon/Warmack for starters.
I haven't seen a single serious post pissed about who was picked to start qb, not one. No one expected a true freshman to start at qb.
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I want real clams back. This guy just flails around
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Could we get some oversized thigh pads for Joe? Seems like his thighs are not protected enough for his upright running style.
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Was thinking something like this.
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:buh-bye:
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I want real clams back. This guy just flails around
i wonder if MiR was being serious earlier or not, he couldn't have been. could he?
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:sdeek:
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Could we get some oversized thigh pads for Joe? Seems like his thighs are not protected enough for his upright running style.
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Was thinking something like this.
Hubes isn't making it through the season if he keeps getting knee tackled while standing straight up and down. This is the most worrying thing about this season, to me.
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Hubes isn't making it through the season if he keeps getting knee tackled while standing straight up and down. This is the most worrying thing about this season, to me.
I would expect that we could start seeing a change in play calling to protect him. Similar to what we saw last year with Waters.
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The play calling only changed for Waters after he got hurt, I would suspect that will be the case with Hubes as well (as it was with pretty much any other quarterback for Snyder).
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The play calling only changed for Waters after he got hurt, I would suspect that will be the case with Hubes as well (as it was with pretty much any other quarterback for Snyder).
It might change now that Delton is hurt, though.
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The play calling only changed for Waters after he got hurt, I would suspect that will be the case with Hubes as well (as it was with pretty much any other quarterback for Snyder).
It might change now that Delton is hurt, though.
Possibly, but Snyder has proven over his career that he will do what it takes to win games when it comes to how he uses banged up players.
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The play calling only changed for Waters after he got hurt, I would suspect that will be the case with Hubes as well (as it was with pretty much any other quarterback for Snyder).
It might change now that Delton is hurt, though.
Possibly, but Snyder has proven over his career that he will do what it takes to win games when it comes to how he uses banged up players.
https://youtu.be/gc_5tx7xRlg?t=2m34s