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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: The Big Train on June 05, 2015, 11:43:30 AM
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welp.
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ms tobias as well
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:frown:
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mrs. cire is essential.
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
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We probably need to cut taxes more. :dunno:
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http://doeskansashaveabudgetyet.com/ (http://doeskansashaveabudgetyet.com/)
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Kansas politics suck.
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It's time to move out of the state, guys. We still have some room over here in Missouri if you're interested.
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It's time to move out of the state, guys. We still have some room over here in Missouri if you're interested.
I would move to MO in an instant if MO could figure out a way to rid itself of Missourians.
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It's time to move out of the state, guys. We still have some room over here in Missouri if you're interested.
I would move to MO in an instant if MO could figure out a way to rid itself of Missourians.
This is the major problem that it presents. I try to ignore them the best I can. Usually I just throw them a roll in the back alley and all is good.
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http://doeskansashaveabudgetyet.com/ (http://doeskansashaveabudgetyet.com/)
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It's time to move out of the state, guys. We still have some room over here in Missouri if you're interested.
Some of us do great under these policies.
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:Woohoo:
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
5.5% unemployment rate = great economy
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
5.5% unemployment rate = great economy
Tax cuts not working?
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
5.5% unemployment rate = great economy
Do the furloughs raise it to like 5.8?
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
5.5% unemployment rate = great economy
Do the furloughs raise it to like 5.8?
The way the government is computing unemployment, it may actually lower it to 5.2%.
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Tax cuts working or no?
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That sucks, TBT.
I just don't understand how this can happen in our booming economy. :frown:
That the tax cuts were supposed to create
5.5% unemployment rate = great economy
Do the furloughs raise it to like 5.8?
Furloughs aren't happening. State voted unanimously to just make all state employees "essential". Still no budget, though.
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
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Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
at ms tobias' they basically just picked the receptionist to stay around and answer calls. obviously varies from dept to dept, but pretty good odds if you're "essential" you're probably involved in some of the more menial parts of that workforce
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hey ksuw didn't you hear, everyone is essential
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
You only get paid if a bill is later passed to give you your back pay. Also, "essential" employees are only those who are needed while the government is shut down. You could be essential to the office, but in the event of the office being closed, your job doesn't really matter.
And yes, if you receive a check from the state of Kansas, you should probably find a new job.
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It doesn't matter. KS legislators don't know what a budget is, which employees are essential to run the state's departments, or how to pay for any of it. When you are in politics, it seems that a pretty good idea would be to actually work on something more than trying to smear everyone else. :dunno:
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Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
at ms tobias' they basically just picked the receptionist to stay around and answer calls. obviously varies from dept to dept, but pretty good odds if you're "essential" you're probably involved in some of the more menial parts of that workforce
:lol: That's just so... governmenty. Keep the receptionist on to answer calls, send everybody else home.
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"Let me put you on hold and I will get him for you...." :shakesfist:
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It really is amazing that "conservatives" won a sweeping victory just last year, and now the debate seems to be devoted entirely to which taxes to raise, rather than cut spending by 6%. For all their bluster, these legislators really are terified of the media/teachers union.
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It really seems like a good case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
This is a really good example of why ppl don't think voting is important. R's, D's, Whatev's.
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It really is amazing that "conservatives" won a sweeping victory just last year, and now the debate seems to be devoted entirely to which taxes to raise, rather than cut spending by 6%. For all their bluster, these legislators really are terified of the media/teachers union.
State agencies take a minimum amount of staff and funding to run. Rather than cut spending by 6%, they should pick an agency they don't like and just get rid of it completely.
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It really is amazing that "conservatives" won a sweeping victory just last year, and now the debate seems to be devoted entirely to which taxes to raise, rather than cut spending by 6%. For all their bluster, these legislators really are terified of the media/teachers union.
State agencies take a minimum amount of staff and funding to run. Rather than cut spending by 6%, they should pick an agency they don't like and just get rid of it completely.
I don't know, that would have to be a pretty big agency to get to 6%. Doesn't education alone already consume over 50% of the budget? Tack on transportation and you're already up to nearly 75%? I can't recall the latest budget breakdowns, but education is just a massive part of the budget.
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It really is amazing that "conservatives" won a sweeping victory just last year, and now the debate seems to be devoted entirely to which taxes to raise, rather than cut spending by 6%. For all their bluster, these legislators really are terified of the media/teachers union.
State agencies take a minimum amount of staff and funding to run. Rather than cut spending by 6%, they should pick an agency they don't like and just get rid of it completely.
I don't know, that would have to be a pretty big agency to get to 6%. Doesn't education alone already consume over 50% of the budget? Tack on transportation and you're already up to nearly 75%? I can't recall the latest budget breakdowns, but education is just a massive part of the budget.
So there is nothing left to cut, then?
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We should just legalize marijuana and sports betting. I mean, it's obvious that our legislature doesn't have the mental faculty to actually fix any problems, so why not just pass a bill that brings in a lot of money?
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We should just legalize marijuana and sports betting. I mean, it's obvious that our legislature doesn't have the mental faculty to actually fix any problems, so why not just pass a bill that brings in a lot of money?
Cocaine, too.
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It really is amazing that "conservatives" won a sweeping victory just last year, and now the debate seems to be devoted entirely to which taxes to raise, rather than cut spending by 6%. For all their bluster, these legislators really are terified of the media/teachers union.
State agencies take a minimum amount of staff and funding to run. Rather than cut spending by 6%, they should pick an agency they don't like and just get rid of it completely.
I don't know, that would have to be a pretty big agency to get to 6%. Doesn't education alone already consume over 50% of the budget? Tack on transportation and you're already up to nearly 75%? I can't recall the latest budget breakdowns, but education is just a massive part of the budget.
So there is nothing left to cut, then?
Oh there's plenty to cut, but only if you're willing to take 50% of that 6% overall cut, or about $200mil, from education. Can you imagine the screaming if the the legislature actually proposed a real cut to school spending? :runaway:
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
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What positives come out of cutting $200M from ed? The Ed system isn't the only problem and the system that oversees the Ed system seem to be pretty shitty at their job too. Crucifying Ed seems silly, and it seems even more silly to think that you can take away $200M from such a system, that many feel need better organization and management, and think that the outcome will be anything more than disastrous given that they are governed by ppl that have their head equally up their own asses.
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there is a long history of governments cutting education funding with positive long term effects, probably.
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
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What positives come out of cutting $200M from ed? The Ed system isn't the only problem and the system that oversees the Ed system seem to be pretty shitty at their job too. Crucifying Ed seems silly, and it seems even more silly to think that you can take away $200M from such a system, that many feel need better organization and management, and think that the outcome will be anything more than disastrous given that they are governed by ppl that have their head equally up their own asses.
I'm just saying that if you cut $400mil across the board, education would absorb about half of that because they're such a huge chunk of the budget. It's not about crucifying them.
You're right, though, that cutting spending won't lead to more efficiency. The administrators, rather than trimming their own bloated ranks, would make the cuts as painful as possible.
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
well crap, someone screwed up
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Maybe the schools should just drop all sports programs. That would probably solve our budget shortfall.
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Not to put too fine a point on it but really every part of Kansas besides Riley and Johnson counties are non-essential.
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
I was furloughed and was hoping to get this week off. Start a new job next week. :curse: :curse: :curse:
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Just don't show up and tell them you were never contacted
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
This logic is exactly why we have an issue in Kansas. There is nothing of value in this post to respond to on any level. The fact is there are numerous states which have done the exact opposite of Kansas and are doing far better. For every Kansas or Wisconsin there is a Minnesota. Its great that people like KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on, but I'd rather they just move to the apex of their experiment and not turn the US into Somalia.
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Just don't show up and tell them you were never contacted
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
This logic is exactly why we have an issue in Kansas. There is nothing of value in this post to respond to on any level. The fact is there are numerous states which have done the exact opposite of Kansas and are doing far better. For every Kansas or Wisconsin there is a Minnesota. Its great that people like KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on, but I'd rather they just move to the apex of their experiment and not turn the US into Somalia.
I think my favorite part of this post was "KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on." Cause you know, when I think about the principles this country was founded on, I totally think high taxes and big government.
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
I was furloughed and was hoping to get this week off. Start a new job next week. :curse: :curse: :curse:
I doubt you would have been paid for your time off if you were furloughed. This isn't the US government.
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
I was furloughed and was hoping to get this week off. Start a new job next week. :curse: :curse: :curse:
I doubt you would have been paid for your time off if you were furloughed. This isn't the US government.
should have emphasized wanting the week off
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
This logic is exactly why we have an issue in Kansas. There is nothing of value in this post to respond to on any level. The fact is there are numerous states which have done the exact opposite of Kansas and are doing far better. For every Kansas or Wisconsin there is a Minnesota. Its great that people like KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on, but I'd rather they just move to the apex of their experiment and not turn the US into Somalia.
I think my favorite part of this post was "KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on." Cause you know, when I think about the principles this country was founded on, I totally think high taxes and big government.
Also, Minnesota. :lol: Love that part. Minnesota has some of the highest taxes in the country (5th by Forbes' most recent estimate). And Minnesota's schools don't rank appreciably better than Kansas (worse, according to most estimates) despite spending approximately $2k more per student. Yes, a real liberal paradise, that Minnesoaaaaata.
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
I was furloughed and was hoping to get this week off. Start a new job next week. :curse: :curse: :curse:
I doubt you would have been paid for your time off if you were furloughed. This isn't the US government.
should have emphasized wanting the week off
Well, if you don't need the pay, then why didn't you just quit a week earlier?
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The problem with state employees is that we have too many of them and only a handful of them want to work.
We need to Jack Welch the bottom 10% every year and back fill with kids in their 20's who dont need 12 weeks of vacation, full family benefits and a salary big enough to home school 3 children.
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Wasn't the tax cut supposed to increase revenue?
Yes. It didn't. Turns out, a lot of states aren't doing too great economically these days. And even cutting rates to zero for small business owners isn't driving new businesses and people to the dusty plains of Kansas. You know what else probably won't help bring people in? Raising taxes. Which is why we should probably just cut spending and enjoy our famously low cost of living.
This logic is exactly why we have an issue in Kansas. There is nothing of value in this post to respond to on any level. The fact is there are numerous states which have done the exact opposite of Kansas and are doing far better. For every Kansas or Wisconsin there is a Minnesota. Its great that people like KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on, but I'd rather they just move to the apex of their experiment and not turn the US into Somalia.
I think my favorite part of this post was "KSUW want to destroy the principles this country was founded on." Cause you know, when I think about the principles this country was founded on, I totally think high taxes and big government.
Really, using the purse to attack the judicial branch? Its like you've never read an American history textbook. And lets not get started on ever example of your tax policies striking against the Federalist and anti-Federalist principles. About the only group you could claim are pleiadian anti-Federalists and everyone was loling at them in 1776.
And this isn't just about education ranking dumbass.
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And even by ALEC's, known to support your bullshit, Minnesota is kicking the crap out of Kansas.
http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
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I've never been furloughed, but isn't it kind of like getting a vacation, except that after the vacation is over you get paid for all your time off? Or is a state furlough different than a federal furlough.
Also, if you're deemed a "nonessential employee" - isn't that about the time you start looking for a new job?
I was furloughed and was hoping to get this week off. Start a new job next week. :curse: :curse: :curse:
I doubt you would have been paid for your time off if you were furloughed. This isn't the US government.
i know a lot of federal govt employees who had forced furloughs a few years ago and weren't paid for the days they were forced to take off work. feel however you want to about it but getting furloughed usually means loss of pay.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
The only outlier on that list is New York. Kansas is a rural state that covers a fairly large area. I'm sure the number of schools per capita is the difference here.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
All of those are low population states except for NY, who has hugely bloated city agencies that cover much of the services handled by most states.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
I can't say that I disagree with you on the needless administration thing. I think that an education overhaul is much needed in KS and some staff inefficiencies can be eliminated. I remember when I was in school, there was one teacher and one aid in the classroom. Heck, I toured a couple schools a week or two ago and there were like 5 adults in one classroom...doesn't seem like a very efficient use of $$$ if you ask me.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
How does the number of counties have any bearing on the number of state employees?
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
How does the number of counties have any bearing on the number of state employees?
Duplicate staff for duplicate districts in the same county...etc is what KSU is trying to say I believe. I tend to agree...
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
How does the number of counties have any bearing on the number of state employees?
Duplicate staff for duplicate districts in the same county...etc is what KSU is trying to say I believe. I tend to agree...
Well I'm not aware of any state agency that sets its field office boundaries within a single county. Some might be limited to Johnson County, I guess, but that just makes sense.
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We should consolidate the govt so that Western ks is one district/county/whateves. Make the district seat in salina, and just yell at them yearly as to why they aren't doing better.
We should send them no money and let them Wild West themselves by the bootstraps.
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We should consolidate the govt so that Western ks is one district/county/whateves. Make the district seat in salina, and just yell at them yearly as to why they aren't doing better.
We should send them no money and let them Wild West themselves by the bootstraps.
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So basically just keep doing what we are doing, then?
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no. Well, maybe, but send less money.
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The problem with state employees is that we have too many of them and only a handful of them want to work.
We need to Jack Welch the bottom 10% every year and back fill with kids in their 20's who dont need 12 weeks of vacation, full family benefits and a salary big enough to home school 3 children.
I am totally good with this
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
How does the number of counties have any bearing on the number of state employees?
Duplicate staff for duplicate districts in the same county...etc is what KSU is trying to say I believe. I tend to agree...
Well I'm not aware of any state agency that sets its field office boundaries within a single county. Some might be limited to Johnson County, I guess, but that just makes sense.
I don't think we're talking apples and oranges here. I'm saying, no reason why two western KS counties can't be in the same school district. Efficiencies can be gained that way without really losing much in terms of functionality.
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The problem with state employees is that we have too many of them and only a handful of them want to work.
We need to Jack Welch the bottom 10% every year and back fill with kids in their 20's who dont need 12 weeks of vacation, full family benefits and a salary big enough to home school 3 children.
I am totally good with this
I read an article the other day that said something to the effect of 80% of the Fortune 500 Companies do a version of this very thing every year. No need to haul around dead weight. I fully support this as well.
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I'm more curious how we have more state employees per capita than like 40 some other states. We are only below Wyoming, Alaska, New York, Mississippi, Nebraska, Louisiana and Alabama.
Are we vastly overstaffed? Or is there something i'm missing...
Yes. Because we have so many friggin' counties and school districts. Each county has at least one school district and sometimes more, even in Western Kansas. That's where we're pissing away our money. Needless administration.
How does the number of counties have any bearing on the number of state employees?
Duplicate staff for duplicate districts in the same county...etc is what KSU is trying to say I believe. I tend to agree...
Well I'm not aware of any state agency that sets its field office boundaries within a single county. Some might be limited to Johnson County, I guess, but that just makes sense.
I don't think we're talking apples and oranges here. I'm saying, no reason why two western KS counties can't be in the same school district. Efficiencies can be gained that way without really losing much in terms of functionality.
School districts aren't set on county lines, though.
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furlough's what?
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We've moved from discussing furloughs to discussing how we can best organize western kansas. I like making all the territory west of Saline into one county. Maybe even just call it "the West" or something cool. But if not, we should just consolidate every 2x2 quadrant of counties into one.
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We've moved from discussing furloughs to discussing how we can best organize western kansas. I like making all the territory west of Saline into one county. Maybe even just call it "the West" or something cool. But if not, we should just consolidate every 2x2 quadrant of counties into one.
We should consolidate Wyandotte and Johnson counties.
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We've moved from discussing furloughs to discussing how we can best organize western kansas. I like making all the territory west of Saline into one county. Maybe even just call it "the West" or something cool. But if not, we should just consolidate every 2x2 quadrant of counties into one.
We should consolidate Wyandotte and Johnson counties.
Johnson County would lead an uprising if anybody tried to do that. The dott's where the poors live (they've got the Legends, though). And Johnson County has Olathe, so maybe they're not as high and mighty as they pretend to be.
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I think we have the right number of counties. I like the idea of smaller government and more local control.
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We've moved from discussing furloughs to discussing how we can best organize western kansas. I like making all the territory west of Saline into one county. Maybe even just call it "the West" or something cool. But if not, we should just consolidate every 2x2 quadrant of counties into one.
We should consolidate Wyandotte and Johnson counties.
I cannot imagine it would change much. If you have effectively insulated yourself deep enough in the heart of JOCO you are immune from negative things. Basically, if you are in the Blue Valley SD you cannot be harmed
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We've moved from discussing furloughs to discussing how we can best organize western kansas. I like making all the territory west of Saline into one county. Maybe even just call it "the West" or something cool. But if not, we should just consolidate every 2x2 quadrant of counties into one.
We should consolidate Wyandotte and Johnson counties.
It could save KCK from becoming KCMO, though.
Johnson County would lead an uprising if anybody tried to do that. The dott's where the poors live (they've got the Legends, though). And Johnson County has Olathe, so maybe they're not as high and mighty as they pretend to be.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
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We should consolidate the govt so that Western ks is one district/county/whateves. Make the district seat in salina, and just yell at them yearly as to why they aren't doing better.
We should send them no money and let them Wild West themselves by the bootstraps.
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How about instead of calling it a town name, we call it something easier to remember, like a number? Its more efficient that way with less characters. And then when these school districts want more money could send students to Topeka to advocate on their behalf. We could have tests of strength and skill. Hell we could even help cleave off some of the population and make them fight to the death and the winner gets to take money back to their district.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
Talk to someone in education and stop listening to dick wipes who run with talking points that have no knowledge of education in Kansas. Consolation has already been taking place and it has decimated services in rural areas. Not really effective to have superintendents who can't visit their in a reasonable amount of time.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
Talk to someone in education and stop listening to dick wipes who run with talking points that have no knowledge of education in Kansas. Consolation has already been taking place and it has decimated services in rural areas. Not really effective to have superintendents who can't visit their in a reasonable amount of time.
See? "Decimated services" etc. It's the same old excuse every time.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
Talk to someone in education and stop listening to dick wipes who run with talking points that have no knowledge of education in Kansas. Consolation has already been taking place and it has decimated services in rural areas. Not really effective to have superintendents who can't visit their in a reasonable amount of time.
See? "Decimated services" etc. It's the same old excuse every time.
Please respond with facts and less talking points, k-thanks-bye.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
Talk to someone in education and stop listening to dick wipes who run with talking points that have no knowledge of education in Kansas. Consolation has already been taking place and it has decimated services in rural areas. Not really effective to have superintendents who can't visit their in a reasonable amount of time.
See? "Decimated services" etc. It's the same old excuse every time.
Please respond with facts and less talking points, k-thanks-bye.
Says the person whose model of government is Minnesota. :lol: What facts do you need? It's already been mentioned that KS has one of the highest number of counties and school districts per capita in the entire country. People can use their own judgment as to whether that's efficient.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
Yeah, sounds like a good reason to keep them open.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
If you like laying off unnecessary employees, lets decriminalize drugs, shut down like half the prisons, and layoff half the guards and half the police force. Bam! Money in our pocket.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
If you like laying off unnecessary employees, lets decriminalize drugs, shut down like half the prisons, and layoff half the guards and half the police force. Bam! Money in our pocket.
Sounds like there might be a downside to that approach. I don't think most druggies are in prison for weed. Could be wrong though.
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Idk about just ks, but the national numbers are huge.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
Talk to someone in education and stop listening to dick wipes who run with talking points that have no knowledge of education in Kansas. Consolation has already been taking place and it has decimated services in rural areas. Not really effective to have superintendents who can't visit their in a reasonable amount of time.
See? "Decimated services" etc. It's the same old excuse every time.
Please respond with facts and less talking points, k-thanks-bye.
Says the person whose model of government is Minnesota. :lol: What facts do you need? It's already been mentioned that KS has one of the highest number of counties and school districts per capita in the entire country. People can use their own judgment as to whether that's efficient.
Do you understand how rural areas work? You need to stop with the schtick that makes these counties and SDs out to be all the size of Johnson county.
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Does anyone know how government became stereotyped as inefficient, inflexible and tedious?
Does anyone know how government employees became stereotyped as lazy, selfish and rude?
Because none of those things scream of "not enough money" or "not enough people"
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So feel free to check my math, but looks like as of 2012 KS had the 10th highest number of school districts per capita, and the 7th highest number of counties per capita. That doesn't sound very efficient at all. But I guess I just "don't know how rural counties work."
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
Yeah, sounds like a good reason to keep them open.
What benefit do I derive from paying higher taxes so Gove County, Kansas can have three school districts? Three school districts, three sets of administrators, in a county of less than 3,000 people.
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I don't believe Gove county has three school districts. The entire county can't be more than 1200 people. I'd bet there are less than 300 kids in all of Gove county.
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Yea, I don't want anything to do with the dot! All joking aside though and back to the point, consolidation in KS in (but not limited to) government and school would be a solid thing that could help us get our budget back in order.
And you know why it will never happen? "Saving money" and "efficiency" also equals a lot of layoffs. Those unnecessary school districts are the lifeblood of some of those small towns.
Yeah, sounds like a good reason to keep them open.
What benefit do I derive from paying higher taxes so Gove County, Kansas can have three school districts? Three school districts, three sets of administrators, in a county of less than 3,000 people.
The number of school districts in Gove County is completely irrelevant. Districts are based around cities, not counties, and there is at least one district that I am aware of that is consolidated across 2 counties. There is no money at the state level to be saved by consolidating counties. There may be some money to be saved on your county mill levy, but that comes at a cost of a loss of local control, which is a basic principal of conservative governance.
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Why are we even educating these hayseeds? if you want schoolin' move to civilization
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Why are we even educating these hayseeds? if you want schoolin' move to civilization
Because of the God damned activist judges, that's why. :curse:
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If all these schools are broke, why didn't they just raise their mill levy?
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man these furlough's really pissed everybody off
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If all these schools are broke, why didn't they just raise their mill levy?
I think the state sets a cap on how high a district can go with it.
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I honestly didn't notice the furloughs. Did they actually happen or is this something that's about to happen.
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If all these schools are broke, why didn't they just raise their mill levy?
I think the state sets a cap on how high a district can go with it.
Man, the state really holds all the keys, don't they.
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I honestly didn't notice the furloughs. Did they actually happen or is this something that's about to happen.
They were averted. The legislature stopped them from happening by passing a bill that temporarily declares all state employees "essential". Nobody gets paid until a budget is passed, though.
If all these schools are broke, why didn't they just raise their mill levy?
I think the state sets a cap on how high a district can go with it.
Man, the state really holds all the keys, don't they.
Yes, it's a joke.
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I don't believe Gove county has three school districts. The entire county can't be more than 1200 people. I'd bet there are less than 300 kids in all of Gove county.
They sure do. USDs 291, 292, and 293. I know, it's amazing.
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http://www.usd505.org/?template=m
This district is in Neosho and Labette Counties. Which county is being supported by your tax dollars, K-S-U?
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Who needs prison guards, public schools, and nursing homes? More KSUWnomics devastating this state.
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Kansas-House-faces-vote-on-raising-taxes-to-6312971.php
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http://www.usd505.org/?template=m
This district is in Neosho and Labette Counties. Which county is being supported by your tax dollars, K-S-U?
You keep bringing this up and I'm not sure why. I never said districts are defined by counties. I said it was silly that there are sometimes multiple school districts in sparsely populated counties. Would it make you feel better if I said sparsely populated areas? :dunno:
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http://www.usd505.org/?template=m
This district is in Neosho and Labette Counties. Which county is being supported by your tax dollars, K-S-U?
You keep bringing this up and I'm not sure why. I never said districts are defined by counties. I said it was silly that there are sometimes multiple school districts in sparsely populated counties. Would it make you feel better if I said sparsely populated areas? :dunno:
It would make you sound smarter, anyway.
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So feel free to check my math, but looks like as of 2012 KS had the 10th highest number of school districts per capita, and the 7th highest number of counties per capita. That doesn't sound very efficient at all. But I guess I just "don't know how rural counties work."
Could be related to having the 11th highest square miles per capita.
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So feel free to check my math, but looks like as of 2012 KS had the 10th highest number of school districts per capita, and the 7th highest number of counties per capita. That doesn't sound very efficient at all. But I guess I just "don't know how rural counties work."
Could be related to having the 11th highest square miles per capita.
To a point, yes, but it's still not very efficient. We're not exactly Alaska. Counties could be 50 miles across instead of 30.
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
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Guys, listen. This whole problem is very straight forward and easy to change.
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Probably. We have a ton of roads. We also have the 6th highest total number of local governments in the country, and the 5th highest number of total local governments per capita. Turns out we are a very well-governed state. Liberals should love it here!
By comparison, the entire state of California has 4,425 local governments. We have 3,826.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html (http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html)
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Most blue sky per capita as well. WTF?
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Probably. We have a ton of roads. We also have the 6th highest total number of local governments in the country, and the 5th highest number of total local governments per capita. Turns out we are a very well-governed state. Liberals should love it here!
By comparison, the entire state of California has 4,425 local governments. We have 3,826.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html (http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html)
Liberals (and you, apparently) like bigger government. More counties give you less.
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too many school districts around kansas city and wichita, wtf
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OMFG Cherokee County has 5 districts. 5! :angry:
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Kansas has the 4th highest total miles of roads and the 6th most per capita.
http://blog.cubitplanning.com/2010/02/road-miles-by-state/ (http://blog.cubitplanning.com/2010/02/road-miles-by-state/)
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too many school districts around kansas city and wichita, wtf
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That map is just terrific. We should consolidate by at least another third.
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Kansas has the 4th highest total miles of roads and the 6th most per capita.
http://blog.cubitplanning.com/2010/02/road-miles-by-state/ (http://blog.cubitplanning.com/2010/02/road-miles-by-state/)
Sounds like some stud thing we should be bragging about.
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Probably. We have a ton of roads. We also have the 6th highest total number of local governments in the country, and the 5th highest number of total local governments per capita. Turns out we are a very well-governed state. Liberals should love it here!
By comparison, the entire state of California has 4,425 local governments. We have 3,826.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html (http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html)
Libs love federal government, pubs love local government
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Probably. We have a ton of roads. We also have the 6th highest total number of local governments in the country, and the 5th highest number of total local governments per capita. Turns out we are a very well-governed state. Liberals should love it here!
By comparison, the entire state of California has 4,425 local governments. We have 3,826.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html (http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html)
Libs love federal government, pubs love local government
Again, to a point. We probably don't need a different local government for every 5.6 families or whatever it works out to.
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Doesn't Kansas also have one of the most miles of roads per capita?
Probably. We have a ton of roads. We also have the 6th highest total number of local governments in the country, and the 5th highest number of total local governments per capita. Turns out we are a very well-governed state. Liberals should love it here!
By comparison, the entire state of California has 4,425 local governments. We have 3,826.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html (http://www.governing.com/gov-data/number-of-governments-by-state.html)
Libs love federal government, pubs love local government
Again, to a point. We probably don't need a different local government for every 5.6 families or whatever it works out to.
If we had a local government for every family, then everyone could just do what they want. It would be great.
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let's reshape kansas, together! you tell me which counties and USDs to consolidate, and i'll update my map. let's #caseclosed this albatross
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USD 226 should consume both 225 and 483 (because they already consume them in sports :gocho: )
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My county's first order of business would be to legalize pot sales. Brownback can sue if he likes. I'll make enough tax revenue to fund 3 vacations by the time he gets through the courts.
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is it OK if i go away from the numbering scheme and we give these exotic lands human-y names?
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I really enjoy KSUW acting like all these local government spots are :kstategrad:
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My county's first order of business would be to legalize pot sales. Brownback can sue if he likes. I'll make enough tax revenue to fund 3 vacations by the time he gets through the courts.
johnson county? work with me, people
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If kids in old west Kansas don't want to have to wake up at 4am to ride a bus 2 hours to school, then maybe they should move to the real world!
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My county's first order of business would be to legalize pot sales. Brownback can sue if he likes. I'll make enough tax revenue to fund 3 vacations by the time he gets through the courts.
johnson county? work with me, people
No, I'd form a new county. Best case is it's just my family, but I could probably support a couple more if I have to.
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USD 226 should consume both 225 and 483 (because they already consume them in sports :gocho: )
you are now superintendent and permitted to work remotely (cost savings)
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(that's like four counties, wow)
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First Orders Of Business For Meade Consolidated Steve Dave Land (sd elected mayor and governor or whatever):
-huge billboards with the middle finger pointing outwards in the direction of the surrounding school districts so they know who's the Alpha in all sports.
-let the new former SW Heights and Fowler kids know that this isn't some lazy ass school where they can just show up and get playing time because their teams suck so terrible. it will probably take a few years before the culture of winning seeps into their genes but letting them attend practices with the finely tuned Meade athletes will eventually pay off.
-since we're probably now like 5A or something we will need to start an immediate rivalry with whoever the current (former) Alpha program is. like, drive a caravan of cars to their town and do donuts on their football field and have keystone light roadies.
-stadium expansion
-mandatory summer workouts for 3rd graders and up starting yesterday
-start a HS baseball team for christ sake. this legion ball with your buds drunken dad as coach is great but we have to get serious here.
-recruit parents of good athlete kids from neighboring counties to move to Meade and get some cushy job with the county or city or something. immediately fire them once they quit reproducing and their offspring have completed 12th.
-Meade lake now allows tubing and water ski'ing. don't give me this "it's not big enough" bullshit. just do a slow turn instead of going straight. or make the lake bigger if you have to. whatever.
-you can no longer be suspended for three days for having a pocket knife in school. this is a stupid rule that doesn't translate to the Meade culture of knives, gun racks, extended cab pickups with the window that opens to the bed of the pickup for getting beers out of it, etc.
-no more 4H
-the Sonic has to re-open
-airport expansion. daily Frontier flights to Denver and AA flights to both ORD and DFW.
-someone has to finally buy the abandoned Lakeway building and do something cool with it
-school board is cancelled. only crazy people run for it anyway. look at me, I am the school board now.
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too many school districts around kansas city and wichita, wtf
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That map is just terrific. We should consolidate by at least another third.
This map is the visual proof that we need to consolidate. There's no reason that any county west of Salina needs more than 2 districts. I'd be hard pressed for reasons why there should be more than 1 personally.
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Lakeway building = Sidewinder dojo
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seward, gray, ford, and meade must all have >1 district per county due to steve dave land USD
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Managing a school district the size of New Jersey in the middle of desolate plains sounds pretty rad.
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Managing a school district the size of New Jersey in the middle of desolate plains sounds pretty rad.
Efficient, too. :lol:
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who wants which jersey? (we should probably hire an efficiency expert and/or have the temp maximize the number of jerseys)
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Second orders of business:
-another stop light somewhere. no more one light town jokes
-Dalton Days is expanded to be a 5 day festival and Speedy Ortiz plays at the concert instead of whatever Alabama cover band usually plays. The "Dalton" character actors can once again take their "shoot outs" indoors in local businesses without permission including riding horses like that time when I was little at the bank because they were all boozed up and everyone made a big stink of it.
-the digital bank sign that says which townies birthday and anniversary is that day now also has royals scores
-we get uber
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should we have a diagonal jersey to the southeast of I35?
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Tobias, go ahead and carve me out a nice Rhode Island somewhere in the NCK-NEK area plz.
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What if Kansas school districts were Game of Thrones Houses?
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So, in consolidating districts, is KSU-w also recommending consolidating all of those schools? Seems like a bad idea, and a good way to kill jobs. I mean, unless we want those people to be on welfare.
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Tobias, go ahead and carve me out a nice Rhode Island somewhere in the NCK-NEK area plz.
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What if Kansas school districts were Game of Thrones Houses?
:lol:
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man, SEKS jersey kinda looks like a sad horse
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i guess they did just get #gluefactory'd, tho
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meade mascot and nickcame is/are now a pet cow(s). the meade 5a pet cows.
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middle school teams are known as the 4h heifers.
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man, SEKS jersey kinda looks like a sad horse
With all of those New Jersey's lurking, I know how this story ends...
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What if while cutting state funds, we opened up sponsorships in Western KS schools. A laboratory of democracy and bastion of local control.
"Today's math lesson is brought to you by Knight Feedlot in Lyons, KS."
Or maybe better yet, we just open up some "on the job" technical ed training sites. Consolidated Farm and Credit sponsor? #synergy
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New idea: yoink all land west of Hays, give it to Native Americans and have a white person trail of tears to Wichita.
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the meade 5a pet cows are going to destroy reservation league football, aren't they?
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Tobias, go ahead and carve me out a nice Rhode Island somewhere in the NCK-NEK area plz.
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my first act as supreme chancellor and divine ruler of Roid Island will be to conquer my homeland, USD 345.
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I like how Roid Island appears to have Vatican City'd part of USD 339.
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"Re-open the Sonic" :lol: :lol:
NC is county based schools. It isn't perfect. We live less than 3 miles from 3 high schools, but we live 100 yards into the neighboring county. Our public high school is 30 miles away. ( :lol: at public schools, but it is an issue for some people)
Miles of roads...they have to be counting county roads that are not paved. No way KS is top ten of actual road miles of normal highways. In NC, they passed a law several years ago that every home would have a paved road that leads to it. They have built 3 miles or more of paved roads to simply reach a single house. Even the people that live out there in the sticks think it is stupid.
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:lol: at public schools, but it is an issue for some people
what do you mean by this?
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Wow, North Carolina sounds like a transportation utopia with a shitty public school system that K-S-U would love.
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"Re-open the Sonic" :lol: :lol: SD had this in his first order of business as mayor/governor of the consolidated schools of Meade and outlying areas.
:lol: at public schools, but it is an issue for some people I mean that I don't worry about public schools because my kids don't go there. (While my kids do go to private school, this part was just gE'ing, I think public schools are great.)
what do you mean by this?
Don't you even dobber? It's pretty standard stuff...
1. Jump all over sd's nuts from time to time.
2. Brag about my kids.
3. Be sarcastic in doing the first two things whenever possible.
4. Bring absolutely nothing of value to gE with at least 98% of my posts.
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:lol: at public schools, but it is an issue for some people I mean that I don't worry about public schools because my kids don't go there. (While my kids do go to private school, this part was just gE'ing, I think public schools are great.)
what do you mean by this?
Don't you even dobber? It's pretty standard stuff...
1. Jump all over sd's nuts from time to time.
2. Brag about my kids.
3. Be sarcastic in doing the first two things whenever possible.
4. Bring absolutely nothing of value to gE with at least 98% of my posts.
i meant just the public school stuff. i misquoted the sonic stuff. that i understood. i was surprised that you would be down on public schools. did you not go to a public school? i would imagine the vast majority of gEers went to public schools.
you should worry about public schools though. your kids are going to be surrounded by and dealing with people that go/went to them for most of their lives. better they not be awash in violent idiots.
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:lol: at public schools, but it is an issue for some people I mean that I don't worry about public schools because my kids don't go there. (While my kids do go to private school, this part was just gE'ing, I think public schools are great.)
what do you mean by this?
Don't you even dobber? It's pretty standard stuff...
1. Jump all over sd's nuts from time to time.
2. Brag about my kids.
3. Be sarcastic in doing the first two things whenever possible.
4. Bring absolutely nothing of value to gE with at least 98% of my posts.
i meant just the public school stuff. i misquoted the sonic stuff. that i understood. i was surprised that you would be down on public schools. did you not go to a public school? i would imagine the vast majority of gEers went to public schools.
you should worry about public schools though. your kids are going to be surrounded by and dealing with people that go/went to them for most of their lives. better they not be awash in violent idiots.
:cheers:
2% post: Yes, I went to public schools and I give a crap ton about public schools, even though my kids don't use them now. I have had multiple conversations with county commissioners and gone to several meetings to at least provide my opinions as they relate to public schools.
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Wow, North Carolina sounds like a transportation utopia
It's called infrastructure and if I understand the obamatard correctly, it's literally crumbling beneath our feet, and we need more of it or else the economy will continue to be the shitadequate, or whatever libtards claim it is today.
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Yeesh, a lot of libtard rage in this thread.
I didn't realize we had so many hayseeds abhorred by the notion that Gove probably doesn't need 3 school districts.
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Wow, North Carolina sounds like a transportation utopia
It's called infrastructure and if I understand the obamatard correctly, it's literally crumbling beneath our feet, and we need more of it or else the economy will continue to be the shitadequate, or whatever libtards claim it is today.
That is a good point that it doesn't make much sense to build new infrastructure if you can't maintain what you already have. Hopefully North Carolina isn't letting their bridges collapse.
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Yeesh, a lot of libtard rage in this thread.
I didn't realize we had so many hayseeds abhorred by the notion that Gove probably doesn't need 3 school districts.
If those hayseeds can make it work, more power to them.
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Yep, bridges are collopsing round the clock and here's kansas rolling in the most miles of road per capita. The litany of coherent, rational and thoughtful analysis is just piling up.
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Yep, bridges are collopsing round the clock and here's kansas rolling in the most miles of road per capita. The litany of coherent, rational and thoughtful analysis is just piling up.
Kansas actually does a really good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Maybe NC does, too. I don't know much about them.
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I have decided that Texas will invade Kansas and turn all their districts into one giant charter school
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don't forget to study for your 160th of 365 standardized tests
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I have decided that Texas will invade Kansas and turn all their districts into one giant charter school
good luck fuckface. meade consolidated could probably hold you off by itself. if there is anyone on this planet that likes guns more than texans it's meade county residents.
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you know that weird statistic about there being more guns in the usa than people? that's because of meade county probably.
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
accepted
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
accepted
the home base has to be liberal instead of colby
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
remind me of your western ks definition again
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one true capital?
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For the purposes of this discussion we can say west of salina even tho that's obviously not the real border
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
accepted
the home base has to be liberal instead of colby
That's fine, I only picked colby because I know where it is
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I have decided to consolidate all of Western KS minus stevedave land into one district with one school in Colby and parents are forced to ship their kids away like boarding school and also I get to liberally indoctrinate them
accepted
the home base has to be liberal instead of colby
I was thinking maybe Hays or Hutch.
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Online schooling like they do in rural alaska. Just get online, watch a vid, farm the rest of the day, and pay taxes. No organized capital. I think allowing Wester Kansas County the right to organize could eventually be a bad thing.
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For the purposes of this discussion we can say west of salina even tho that's obviously not the real border
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this map is great
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guys Operation Consolidation is going well except for this one holdout
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:lol:
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42 :lol:
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we are now down to 184 districts, ranging in size from 1,259,850,053,758 ft^2 (conconconconconconcon land) to 310,656,735 ft^2 (USD 207)
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Holy crap 42 finally posted the map!
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Holy crap 42 finally posted the map!
our mapping department got furlough'd
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we are now down to 184 districts, ranging in size from 1,259,850,053,758 ft^2 (conconconconconconcon land) to 310,656,735 ft^2 (USD 207)
I'd consolidate everything south of Johnson County with steve dave land.
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i'm not sure if they'll be agreeable to those conditions?
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i'm not sure if they'll be agreeable to those conditions?
eff 'em, ban 'em.
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we are now down to 184 districts, ranging in size from 1,259,850,053,758 ft^2 (conconconconconconcon land) to 310,656,735 ft^2 (USD 207)
I'd consolidate everything south of Johnson County with steve dave land.
Kanohoma County.
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we are now down to 184 districts, ranging in size from 1,259,850,053,758 ft^2 (conconconconconconcon land) to 310,656,735 ft^2 (USD 207)
I'd consolidate everything south of Johnson County with steve dave land.
Kanohoma County.
stevita
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we are now down to 184 districts, ranging in size from 45191 mi^2 (conconconconconconcon land) to 11 mi^2 (USD 207)
^edited for mocat
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T-Y
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guys Operation Consolidation is going well except for this one holdout
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Roid Island really expanded it's territory in the last three hours.
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I want a fence that runs north to south, Nubb to Okies, between Eastern KS and Conconconconconconcon Land.
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New idea: yoink all land west of Hays, give it to Native Americans and have a white person trail of tears to Wichita.
After the aquifer dries up of course
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let's make every KS citizen take a standardized test and if they score below a certain level, let's ship them off to Oklahoma.
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let's make every KS citizen take a standardized test and if they score below a certain level, let's ship them off to Oklahoma.
We should just keep the under perfoming ones as farmer labor and ship them west of the fence.
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This whole process is invalid because the USD 457 fighting ese's can have literally all of Mexico come up and whip Meade's asses with switchblades
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Every time I go into a state office building, I'm stunned by how many agencies I've never heard of or sound like a duplicate of the same thing.
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Every time I go into a state office building, I'm stunned by how many agencies I've never heard of or sound like a duplicate of the same thing.
you are easily rough ridin' stunned
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The legislature actions on the budget reminds me of a teenage nut racking fight, stupid, meaningless, and painful.
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i saw at work today that they are building a new elementary school in liberal :surprised:
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LIBERAL
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i saw at work today that they are building a new elementary school in liberal :surprised:
Edutards
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Congrats 'Pubs like KSUW on passing the largest tax increase ever in Kansas, slamming middle class families and the poor, so corporations didn't have to pay a dime. Must feel great.
http://cjonline.com/news/2015-06-12/house-breaks-gridlock-narrowly-approves-tax-increases-early-morning-vote
Also nice work passing a bill that wasn't even printed yet. I guess you're not the only party that passes something to know whats in it.
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can't wait to pay that tax :Woohoo:
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Republican leadership only gained the razor-thin majority needed for passage after intensely working the phones during the 3 a.m. hour and implementing a call of the House to keep members in their seats while state troopers searched for absentees.
:lol:
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What happened to pubs? Spend, spend, spend. Tax, tax, tax.
Enough already.
It's getting old.
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You guys should be rejoicing, not making fun. Kansas 'Pubtards have evolved.
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Though dozens of Republicans in the end voted to raise taxes, they wrung their hands at the same time, often making a point of voicing their displeasure with the legislation. Rep. John Whitmer, R-Wichita, spoke through tears as he explained his yes vote.
“I voted for something I am not proud of,” Whitmer said, “but I feel it’s what the folks need.”
I mean...
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Is that a politician coming to terms with finding out that his lifelong political philosophy may be wrong?
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i'm picturing ksuw doing that walk-on, somebody dunked and i'm holding back the bench thing right now. v weird
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lol
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Ksuw is doing the soup eating in everybody's face at the office
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i'm picturing ksuw doing that walk-on, somebody dunked and i'm holding back the bench thing right now. v weird
No, he wanted them to cut spending by 6% across the board.
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Is that a politician coming to terms with finding out that his lifelong political philosophy may be wrong?
He is coming to terms that he is a huge loser.
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i'm picturing ksuw doing that walk-on, somebody dunked and i'm holding back the bench thing right now. v weird
No, he wanted them to cut spending by 6% across the board.
HOLD THE LINE
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i'm picturing ksuw doing that walk-on, somebody dunked and i'm holding back the bench thing right now. v weird
Maybe not holding back the bench. Maybe holding back the team?
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Tax shifting the tax burden to the poor and middle class, go neocon kansas, go!
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What a bunch of pathetic cowards. At least 2016 isn't too far off.
So what's the details on the tax increase? Hopefully mostly sales tax? If they're going to raise my taxes, I'm hoping it will at least primarily target the poor. I also heard they wanted to cut a bunch of deductions, too, so I'm pretty concerned this morning.
I also had several more HOLD THE LINE gifs ready to go, all for nothing...
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What a bunch of pathetic cowards. At least 2016 isn't too far off.
So what's the details on the tax increase? Hopefully mostly sales tax? If they're going to raise my taxes, I'm hoping it will at least primarily target the poor. I also heard they wanted to cut a bunch of deductions, too, so I'm pretty concerned this morning.
I also had several more HOLD THE LINE gifs ready to go, all for nothing...
Sales tax and cigarettes. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they eliminated most of the deductions they were talking about, but I haven't seen that yet. Also, the bill hasn't passed the Senate yet. You can still hope they hold the line if you like disappointment.
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Cheer up KSUW, the House bill would still require an additional $50M in cuts by the Gov.
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Cheer up KSUW, the House bill would still require an additional $50M in cuts by the Gov.
Yeah, but that's not very much at all. By my estimate, this is going to cost me about $200 more in sales tax alone, plus more if they also reduce deductions. See everybody? This is what happens when you elect a bunch of tax&spend pubtards.
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What a bunch of pathetic cowards. At least 2016 isn't too far off.
So what's the details on the tax increase? Hopefully mostly sales tax? If they're going to raise my taxes, I'm hoping it will at least primarily target the poor. I also heard they wanted to cut a bunch of deductions, too, so I'm pretty concerned this morning.
I also had several more HOLD THE LINE gifs ready to go, all for nothing...
Sales tax and cigarettes. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they eliminated most of the deductions they were talking about, but I haven't seen that yet. Also, the bill hasn't passed the Senate yet. You can still hope they hold the line if you like disappointment.
Much like Obamacare, there's no stopping the train now. The House was the last real hurdle.
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I just hope people don't stop smoking. We would have to raise taxes yet again next year if they do.
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Cheer up KSUW, the House bill would still require an additional $50M in cuts by the Gov.
Yeah, but that's not very much at all. By my estimate, this is going to cost me about $200 more in sales tax alone, plus more if they also reduce deductions. See everybody? This is what happens when you elect a bunch of tax&spend pubtards.
Could be funny if Brownback didn't rely on voters like you to oust reasonable conservatives.
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Time to build a Super Walmart at 435 and Stateline
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Cheer up KSUW, the House bill would still require an additional $50M in cuts by the Gov.
Yeah, but that's not very much at all. By my estimate, this is going to cost me about $200 more in sales tax alone, plus more if they also reduce deductions. See everybody? This is what happens when you elect a bunch of tax&spend pubtards.
Could be funny if Brownback didn't rely on voters like you to oust reasonable conservatives.
The "reasonable conservatives" are the ones who voted for this, dumbass. The tea partiers wanted cuts. If you are referring back to the folks ousted in 2012, those were liberals running as "Republicans" because they couldn't get elected in this state as Dems. :lol: if you're really describing those guys as "reasonable conservatives."
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
Polish it!
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
Polish it!
AND - if I can somehow shift a few thousand in purchases from local businesses to tax-free online stores, that tax savings should completely offset the .35% increase on everything else. Trouble is gas and groceries, which make up a huge chunk of the spending.
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
Polish it!
AND - if I can somehow shift a few thousand in purchases from local businesses to tax-free online stores, that tax savings should completely offset the .35% increase on everything else. Trouble is gas and groceries, which make up a huge chunk of the spending.
I already do this as much as possible, so I don't have a good way to avoid this tax hike. :frown:
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If Missouri were smart, they'd do the opposite of what we did. Drop the sales tax to zero, raise income taxes to compensate, and just watch their economy boom.
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
I think I've made it quite clear that I'm not rich. I'm a HENRY.
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
I think I've made it quite clear that I'm not rich. I'm a HENRY.
A buzzword coined in a 2003 Fortune Magazine article to refer to a segment of families earning between $250,000 and $500,000, but not having much left after taxes, schooling, housing and family costs.
Wow! That is even more impressive than being rich!
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
KC Star calls it the biggest tax increase in the history of the state.
KSUW: "just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut"
:lol:
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If Sam was a genius politician, he would ride all this crap out then veto the bills face off, cut the $400M, be a Tea Party god, and Pub' Scott Walker's face off in the upcoming primaries as the candidate who is the most conservative.
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If Sam was a genius politician, he would ride all this crap out then veto the bills face off, cut the $400M, be a Tea Party god, and Pub' Scott Walker's face off in the upcoming primaries as the candidate who is the most conservative.
"Oh, you didn't go to college, Scott? Well, I defunded all of the colleges in my state, so beat that you son of a bitch."
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
KC Star calls it the biggest tax increase in the history of the state.
KSUW: "just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut"
:lol:
I'm just playing along, but you raise an interesting point. You just know that if Davis was elected and the Dems were responsible for this (who knew the pubtards would pull such a complete betrayal of their own base?), the KC Star would be describing it exactly as I did.
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
It's no secret that ksuw out spends his means :frown:
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
It's no secret that ksuw out spends his means :frown:
Not to get too serious on this strange day, but this is one of favorite socialist one-liners. "Stop whining about taxes and just live within your means!" This sentiment is especially rich in irony because it only seems to apply to the people paying the freight - not the welfare recipients, government, etc.
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
It's no secret that ksuw out spends his means :frown:
Not to get too serious on this strange day, but this is one of favorite socialist one-liners. "Stop whining about taxes and just live within your means!" This sentiment is especially rich in irony because it only seems to apply to the people paying the freight - not the welfare recipients, government, etc.
Live within your means (50% of gross), damnit!
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if you can't live with your means, just work harder, yeesh.
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if you can't live with your means, just work harder, yeesh.
A two in one! Well played. :thumbs:
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
I think I've made it quite clear that I'm not rich. I'm a HENRY.
A buzzword coined in a 2003 Fortune Magazine article to refer to a segment of families earning between $250,000 and $500,000, but not having much left after taxes, schooling, housing and family costs.
Wow! That is even more impressive than being rich!
his family doesn't earn over $250k a year. he lets craig's list weirdos come over to his house and tear crap out of it to save money.
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Do rich earners like KSU-w actually align politically based on the difference of a few hundred bucks a year? The way they talk, you would think its like a $10k difference
I think I've made it quite clear that I'm not rich. I'm a HENRY.
A buzzword coined in a 2003 Fortune Magazine article to refer to a segment of families earning between $250,000 and $500,000, but not having much left after taxes, schooling, housing and family costs.
Wow! That is even more impressive than being rich!
his family doesn't earn over $250k a year. he lets craig's list weirdos come over to his house and tear crap out of it to save money.
Wrong about the income, right about Craigslist. We HENRYs are resourceful.
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This is the worst type of "get your dick out"
Gonna win 'em all!
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This is the worst type of "get your dick out"
Gonna win 'em all!
Agreed.
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You guys wanna know how much I make?
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You guys wanna know how much I make?
OH BOY DO I?!!!!!!!!
Gonna win 'em all!
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we know you do slobber, I don't think that question was meant for you
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
KC Star calls it the biggest tax increase in the history of the state.
KSUW: "just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut"
:lol:
The KC Star is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). But, biggest tax increase in history should resonate well with the libtards. I'm sure they'll propaganda hard that the increase only affects poors.
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Silver lining to all of this is that I'm still paying less in taxes than I was a few years ago before the income tax cut. So, I guess to borrow the parlance of the education fight, this isn't really a tax increase at all - just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut.
KC Star calls it the biggest tax increase in the history of the state.
KSUW: "just a reduction in the amount of my tax cut"
:lol:
The KC Star is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). But, biggest tax increase in history should resonate well with the libtards. I'm sure they'll propaganda hard that the increase only affects poors.
Your Gov just became the biggest fool in KS history. No big whoop
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Did you alreqdy forget about Kathleen Sebelius?
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Did you alreqdy forget about Kathleen Sebelius?
Brownback has made everyone forget about her
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She got fired from the Obama administration for incompetence. Think about how incredible that is
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She got fired from the Obama administration for incompetence. Think about how incredible that is
Closer to Washington than Sam will ever get
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She got fired from the Obama administration for incompetence. Think about how incredible that is
Closer to Washington than Sam will ever get
He's a former U.S. Senator.
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She got fired from the Obama administration for incompetence. Think about how incredible that is
Closer to Washington than Sam will ever get
He's a former U.S. Senator.
I meant executive branch but true
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:lol:
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Sibelius was 10x the governor than Brownback and there is pretty much no metric you can apply that says otherwise. Except maybe the KSUW/FSD feelz test which no one gives a eff about.
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Sibelius was 10x the governor than Brownback and there is pretty much no metric you can apply that says otherwise. Except maybe the KSUW/FSD feelz test which no one gives a eff about.
At least you back it up with facts, unlike those two losers KSU-W and FSD.
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Sibelius was 10x the governor than Brownback and there is pretty much no metric you can apply that says otherwise. Except maybe the KSUW/FSD feelz test which no one gives a eff about.
At least you back it up with facts, unlike those two losers KSU-W and FSD.
I mean if you want to look at libtard things like balanced budgets, unemployment %, "real unemployment%", taxation policy, distribution on wealth, and economic growth.....
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Sibelius was 10x the governor than Brownback and there is pretty much no metric you can apply that says otherwise. Except maybe the KSUW/FSD feelz test which no one gives a eff about.
At least you back it up with facts, unlike those two losers KSU-W and FSD.
I mean if you want to look at libtard things like balanced budgets, unemployment %, "real unemployment%", taxation policy, distribution on wealth, and economic growth.....
:White flag:
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Oh man, I totally forgot about the social justice metric. :lol:
When you use those other metrics it actually makes sam look like a rough ridin' genius, relativ3 to the disaster he inherited.
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Oh man, I totally forgot about the social justice metric. :lol:
When you use those other metrics it actually makes sam look like a rough ridin' genius, relativ3 to the disaster he inherited.
Disaster he inherited? LOL balanced budgets that retain government services are for communists!
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Oh man, I totally forgot about the social justice metric. :lol:
When you use those other metrics it actually makes sam look like a rough ridin' genius, relativ3 to the disaster he inherited.
oh you mean like this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/10/sam-brownback-lgbt-discrimination_n_6656620.html
rough ridin' bigot
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
And what was happening than? Oh Kansas doesn't work in a vacuum? How about Brownback shuddering the state while we have a record stock market, decreasing unemployment, and economic growth. That takes talent.
Also you're still a rough ridin' bigot.
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If Brownback would just allow a 1% tax on corporations in KS, then this would all be a moot point. The fact that businesses pay nothing infuriates me. I'm not saying steal from the rich, give to the poor...but everyone should be accountable in one way or another.
Taxing cigs more and those tax/budget gimmicks won't work in the long run.
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
It's interesting that the "tax and spend liberal" chose to cut spending to get out of her deficit, while Governor Brownback championed a tax hike.
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
It's interesting that the "tax and spend liberal" chose to cut spending to get out of her deficit, while Governor Brownback championed a tax hike.
lulz
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Sebelius, the best moderate Republican governor Kansas has had in 50 years.
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
This all sounds very Pub'ey. Same team, FSD.
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I find the comparison bw Sebelius and Brownback pretty pointless. But I'll go ahead and concede that Sebelius was way better than Brownback when it comes to (1) happening to be gov during a booming national economy, (2) "social justice", and (3) killing babies. She was George Tiller's best bud! :cheers:
Anyway, Brownback's pretty much been a crap show, too, so again this debate seems pretty dumb.
Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
But I'm sure you're ok with peoples' careers being ruined for committing the sin of donating money to a pro-traditional marriage cause.
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
But I'm sure you're ok with peoples' careers being ruined for committing the sin of donating money to a pro-traditional marriage cause.
Can you give an example of a pro-traditional marriage cause?
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
It's interesting that the "tax and spend liberal" chose to cut spending to get out of her deficit, while Governor Brownback championed a tax hike.
I've made this joke on multiple occassions.
Two things are being debated:
1. Bigger idiot: Brownback or Sebelius - I maintain that sebelius is a bigger idiot bc ACA website.
2. Whether Edna's chosen metrics (sans "social justice" bc it is not a metric) show brownback or sebelius to be more effective. Those metrics unequivocally favor Brownback. Only vague and unfounded Edna adjustments leading to self-serving conclusory Edna statements of fact show otherwise.
Your Welcome,
Sugar Dick
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Social Justice = working class people working harder so other people can have more without working at all, and government sponsored gay marriage. :ROFL:
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I was going to get straight married, but didn't want to spend the $70 license fee. Now my life is ruined. I demand social justice!!!!! :ROFL:
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In the argument of who the bigger idiot is, we need to include Kansans. I mean, look who we are putting up for office.
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In the argument of who the bigger idiot is, we need to include Kansans. I mean, look who we are putting up for office.
Any adult who would willingly live in topeka is pretty suspect...
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Largest budget ever = slashing services in libtard propaganda land
Sebelius, the fiscal disciplinarian, and preserver of services:
Kansas, like many other states, is facing a $186 million gap for fiscal year 2009 and according to early estimates approximately $1 billion deficit for fiscal year 2010.[1][2]However, more recent estimates place FY 2010's shortfall at $654 million. Governor Kathleen Sebelius recommended $600 million in budget cuts for FY 2010 which includes eliminating programs, closing facilities, freezing new hires, and reducing spending.
It's interesting that the "tax and spend liberal" chose to cut spending to get out of her deficit, while Governor Brownback championed a tax hike.
I've made this joke on multiple occassions.
Two things are being debated:
1. Bigger idiot: Brownback or Sebelius - I maintain that sebelius is a bigger idiot bc ACA website.
2. Whether Edna's chosen metrics (sans "social justice" bc it is not a metric) show brownback or sebelius to be more effective. Those metrics unequivocally favor Brownback. Only vague and unfounded Edna adjustments leading to self-serving conclusory Edna statements of fact show otherwise.
Your Welcome,
Sugar Dick
Find me one quantifiable metric where Brownback is better. I've already stated unemployment (direction of trend as well), state of the economy, and most importantly the state of the budget. None of those can be chalked up in favor of Brownback.
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
But I'm sure you're ok with peoples' careers being ruined for committing the sin of donating money to a pro-traditional marriage cause.
Who has this happened to?
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UE rate 4.3%, down from 7%+.
State of the Economy - Growing as opposed to shrinking
State of the Budget - Balanced with surplus as opposed to "I'm bailing for the HHS"
WTF are you talking about?
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
But I'm sure you're ok with peoples' careers being ruined for committing the sin of donating money to a pro-traditional marriage cause.
Who has this happened to?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/mozillas-gay-marriage-litmus-test-violates-liberal-values/360156/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/mozillas-gay-marriage-litmus-test-violates-liberal-values/360156/)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/07/indiana-gay-protection-memories-pizza-eich-column/25373045/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/07/indiana-gay-protection-memories-pizza-eich-column/25373045/)
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UE rate 4.3%, down from 7%+.
State of the Economy - Growing as opposed to shrinking
State of the Budget - Balanced with surplus as opposed to "I'm bailing for the HHS"
WTF are you talking about?
So congrats on riding the Obama wave of reduced unemployment, yet still flagging significantly behind national trends.
You claim that the economy is a plus for Brownback when we are no where near the recovery levels almost everywhere else is experiencing, but blame Sebelius for a down turn during the worst global crisis in 3 generations. The issue there is that one is directly caused by the governor and one is caused by outside circumstances.
What balanced budget are you looking at? Sebelius left the state in decent shape with the budget considering the circumstances. Right now we just left the longest session, which created the largest tax hike in KS history, and we still need to find $50 million to cut to make it "balanced." All of that is assuming we don't have any more "hiccups" with revenue projections (which this admin has shown they are total failures at projecting properly because of their policy's damaging effects on the economy) and we have to hope no one decides to stop smoking or their grandma doesn't die (nursing home tax!) because that would cause the state to lose revenue and unbalance the budget even further.
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Ok, back to screaming BIgOT!!!!!
Its funny when people can have their lives ruined. Like :Woot: omgz those gays :ROFL: why can't they choose something else. :excited:
But I'm sure you're ok with peoples' careers being ruined for committing the sin of donating money to a pro-traditional marriage cause.
Who has this happened to?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/mozillas-gay-marriage-litmus-test-violates-liberal-values/360156/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/mozillas-gay-marriage-litmus-test-violates-liberal-values/360156/)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/07/indiana-gay-protection-memories-pizza-eich-column/25373045/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/07/indiana-gay-protection-memories-pizza-eich-column/25373045/)
Those are just cases where the free market worked. Also LOL at "vandalizing" a Yelp page.
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UE rate 4.3%, down from 7%+.
State of the Economy - Growing as opposed to shrinking
State of the Budget - Balanced with surplus as opposed to "I'm bailing for the HHS"
WTF are you talking about?
You are right, fsd. But, blah blah blah unsubstantiated libtarded talking points
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UE rate 4.3%, down from 7%+.
State of the Economy - Growing as opposed to shrinking
State of the Budget - Balanced with surplus as opposed to "I'm bailing for the HHS"
WTF are you talking about?
You are right, fsd. But, blah blah blah unsubstantiated libtarded talking points
Bitch made response to quantifiable data. I'll take your tapout notice and let you head out of the thread with hat in hand.
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Sugar Dick wins again. :ksu:
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clearly these people aren't from USD Meade Max Fury Road or we'd have some tridents sticking out of peoples' heads already
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http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article24640072.html (http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article24640072.html)
Look at the totality of the picture. When you look at that, it is a tax cut.
The minority party put forward no proposals to solve this issue. None. They just wanted to see it fail.
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It's KS. There is no minority party.
Also, is this budget a 3 yr budget retroactively effecting 2012 to now? I mean, WTF? It's pretty amazing what some ppl say with a straight face.
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Right winged media :shakesfist:
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