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Who is going to be the hero?
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I cannot wait to see what materializes. My personal favorite talking point that I hope shows up is the "we would've beat these guys with Cliff Alexander."
Shockers are clearly the better team. That is the only legitimate talking point, but of course, it won't show up on the phog.
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Earlier they were pissed about no flagrant when Ellis was popped in the nose.
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Couldn't be happier :)
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Will shut down for temp maint
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LuckyThirteen wrote:
big12fanatic18 wrote:
LuckyThirteen wrote: I ******* hate VV now. What a prick. What a ****** person. **** him.
People need to get a grip.
Just hate seeing him pull that **** and the refs enabling him, rather than simply calling the foul on him.
I'm telling you. This is why I don't play sports anymore. I'd suck punch him in the face and keep wailing away on his thug ass! One star me all you want, but he deserves it.
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1-2 vs the state if KS. #rcjh
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If I hear one word from the turds I work with about this, I WILL throat punch somebody!!!
After this I do NOT want a home and home with WSU. PERIOD!!!
AAAAHHHHHHHHHH CRAAAAAPPPPPPPP!
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One star me all you want!!!
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I cannot wait to see what materializes. My personal favorite talking point that I hope shows up is the "we would've beat these guys with Cliff Alexander."
Shockers are clearly the better team. That is the only legitimate talking point, but of course, it won't show up on the phog.
LOL even better. A few guys brought up Embiid and what he would have done
Those guys make me so happy
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Please hold a PC re: refs after the game..
6:29 PM
(2 votes)
Just abysmal. Changed the game completely. The missed goaltending should be a fireable offense by itself. I'm tired of getting humped over.
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WSU: 1-0
KSU: 1-1
KU: 1-2
only a half game back for second in KS standings. #rcjh
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It's a Self feeding frenzy over there.
How good a coach is he?
Our personnel called for a diff offense. What did we see?
2 game and 3 man weave..
He gets mentally demolished yearly. How good is he?
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Losing to that sh1t town is not a good feeling. Especially to that liar Marshall.
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Anyway. Kansas wins that game 6 out of 10 times. Today was one of the 4 they didn't. Oh well.
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Can you imagine how in their head Greg would be if he did end up with the TX job?
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Losing to that sh1t town is not a good feeling. Especially to that liar Marshall.
:facepalm: Pathetic attitude.
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Self has obviously had a great run here, but I think at this point we see he really struggles ( Putting it lightly) the second game of every tourney weekend. Would Stevens pick up if we called?
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Self has obviously had a great run here, but I think at this point we see he really struggles ( Putting it lightly) the second game of every tourney weekend. Would Stevens pick up if we called?
:lol:
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Would be a great pickup. Selfs best years are clearly behind him.
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:Chirp:
Would be a great pickup. Selfs best years are clearly behind him.
Absurd. He's three years removed from an NCG.
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Guys, can you imagine the juggernaut Marshall would build at KU?
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Anyway. Kansas wins that game 6 out of 10 times. Today was one of the 4 they didn't. Oh well.
Gold.
More like this please.
:drool:
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they're being really mean to self :frown:
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How mean?
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Self is one bullshit no call and a lucky shot away from being forgettable at KU.
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Real talk I'm disgusted. I'm not surprised at all but I was hoping maybe a one and done tournament would get through to this team and they would act like it mattered. And I'm sorry but I didn't see that atall. Now WSU has the bragging rights and the narrative that we were scared to play them will only enhance. And maybe they're right quite frankly. I'm so disappointed that they completely proved that they were overrated and that a 7 seed should be favored over us. And I'm especially disappointed that Coach Self is doinf nothing other than perpetuating that Kansas is indeed chokers. Cause we we are and I'm done defending it or arguing against it. We and Bill Self are huge ******* chokers. The proof is there for everyone to see.
This has easily been the worst coaching season by Self. I mean every word of that, mailing it in for various halves, calling timeouts way too late, playing guys who are f'ing up way too much, not playing guys who should clearly be playing (Svi and Mickelson), go ahead and defend him all you want, but if we got this season out of Roy we would have been all over him for it.
Am more irritated at committee for creating this narrative and this ridiculously challenging second round game than anything that the Hawks did or didn't do. That's the bs in all of this.
He's a good coach who has been inflated by two big breaks: The kid from Davidson missing that shot in 2008 and Kendall Marshall getting hurt in 2012. The crackdown on physical play has hurt him, as has the one-and-done era. His inability to recruit point guards has been perhaps his biggest downfall in recent years.
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This has easily been the worst coaching season by Self. I mean every word of that, mailing it in for various halves, calling timeouts way too late, playing guys who are f'ing up way too much, not playing guys who should clearly be playing (Svi and Mickelson), go ahead and defend him all you want, but if we got this season out of Roy we would have been all over him for it.
The best part about this one is that the guy created a thread for it titled "One star me to death..."
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Funny how just a week ago almost no one over there would fire Self for Cal
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Funny how just a week ago almost no one over there would fire Self for Cal
They probably still don't want Cal.
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Self vs. Seed
8:16 PM
(5 votes)
In 12 years Self has exceeded his seed twice and played to his seed twice. The other 8 times he has played below his seed, Six of those 8 times Self has actually lost 2 games early. The last 3 years that has been the case. It's becoming a pretty bad trend. He looks tight and his teams play tight. I wonder how this compares to other elite coaches.
Seasons over. Time to get behind football. I think we have a really good young coach. It's going to take a while but he's going to get us going in the right direction.
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This is starting to remind me of Mike Shanahan's last few years in Denver. Sometimes things just get stale.[/quote
Maybe Self will run off to the NBA when his kid graduates. Too bad Larry Brown is closing in on 80 years old.
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Locker room areas
7:58 PM
(1 vote)
Does anyone have any footage this year of self and Marshall interacting behind the scenes? I want to see if self silver backed Marshall off the court. That really showed that self is th better man and concerned about what matters in a basketball team.
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Self is one bullshit no call and a lucky shot away from being forgettable at KU.
eh his amount of big 12 trophies would keep him from being forgettable.
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Self is one bullshit no call and a lucky shot away from being forgettable at KU.
eh his amount of big 12 trophies would keep him from being forgettable.
I was just assuming that was C/P'd off of Phog.
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Self is one bullshit no call and a lucky shot away from being forgettable at KU.
eh his amount of big 12 trophies would keep him from being forgettable.
I was just assuming that was C/P'd off of Phog.
my bad. that makes a lot more sense.
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Locker room areas
7:58 PM
(1 vote)
Does anyone have any footage this year of self and Marshall interacting behind the scenes? I want to see if self silver backed Marshall off the court. That really showed that self is th better man and concerned about what matters in a basketball team.
Silver backed?
Is that like a chicken wing?
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Well, this proves it.
8:15 PM
(14 votes)
Big 12 was weak this year, and the only reason we won league was because we sucked a little less than everyone else. 1 star away.
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Its clear that Self needs to get back to recruiting nothing but hard nosed players that give 110% all the time. His teams at Illinois were so much fun to watch...the 08 team was built that way and so was the Releford/Reed team that made it to the title game.
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We are more talented most tourneys but lose more than we should for some reason.
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FWIW, I witnessed in person one of West Virginia's reserve bigs come off the floor and tell the entire bench "they soft as hell!" during the game at AFH this year. That pretty much confirmed what j had believed.
KU hasn't won the last two Big 12 titles. Allen Fieldhouse has.
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So what is the point of the ridiculous schedule?
6:58 PM
(5 votes)
2 years in a row, the "most brutal schedule ever," and 2 years in a row, we get bounced in the 2nd round.
Play the Champions Classic game, a Thanksgiving tournament, your Big 12/SEC game, and schedule cupcakes the rest of the non-con. If we are going to get bounced early, we might as well be 33-4 instead of 28-9.
What exactly is the point if it doesn't pay off in March?
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Well, this proves it.
8:15 PM
(14 votes)
Big 12 was weak this year, and the only reason we won league was because we sucked a little less than everyone else. 1 star away.
oh this is great
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They can't appreciate how good they have it with Self. They're disgusting.
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They deserve oscar.
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They deserve oscar.
no one does
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Am more irritated at committee for creating this narrative and this ridiculously challenging second round game than anything that the Hawks did or didn't do. That's the bs in all of this.
These are my favorite
Wichita State is a legit top 15 team this year, that got seeded at 7 because the committee is creating storylines like it's WWE.
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Self vs. Seed
8:16 PM
(5 votes)
In 12 years Self has exceeded his seed twice and played to his seed twice. The other 8 times he has played below his seed, Six of those 8 times Self has actually lost 2 games early. The last 3 years that has been the case. It's becoming a pretty bad trend. He looks tight and his teams play tight. I wonder how this compares to other elite coaches.
Seasons over. Time to get behind football. I think we have a really good young coach. It's going to take a while but he's going to get us going in the right direction.
In 2012, Purdue choked away the Rd of 32 game late vs Ku. Had the ball and 3 pt lead with about 1 min left, and totally pissed down their leg
If they don't, Ku in the past 6 yrs, would have been bounced 4x in Rd of 32 as a 1/2 seed, lost in Sweet16 as a 1 seed, and let a 11 seed beat you as a 1 seed in the Elite 8. Which would have meant that Ku would have gotten 3 wins beyond the 1st Rd in 6 years as a 1 or 2 seed.
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Izzo is 13-1 in rd of 32 games. He's 8-4 in Sweet 16, and 6-2 in Elight 8.
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The quote is about the Gregg Marshall presser.
Says after today he's fine with the series just like it is- in other words he's cool and so is every WSU fan on the globe, with not playing KU, that way they can thump their chests for another 24 years!! Guess what WSU fan and GM- I'm fine with not paying your asse$ either- if you want to hang your program's hat on this win- do it
I always love when people post things like a$$.
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Izzo is 13-1 in rd of 32 games. He's 8-4 in Sweet 16, and 6-2 in Elight 8.
Holy crap that is amazing
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What does wsu stand to gain from playing a team like ku?
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What does wsu stand to gain from playing a team like ku?
wait, is the a phog gem or a FSD original? because they stand having people watch one of their games before the tourney
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Locker room areas
7:58 PM
(1 vote)
Does anyone have any footage this year of self and Marshall interacting behind the scenes? I want to see if self silver backed Marshall off the court. That really showed that self is th better man and concerned about what matters in a basketball team.
Silver backed?
Is that like a chicken wing?
I don't what they mean either, but it's the phrase of the day over there. Silverback gorilla somehow meaning dominate male?
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That hoops board is a cesspool. Always has been. Always will be. There are a few Ape Room and Gridiron board regulars that bring some substance, but otherwise it's pure t-shirt fan trash.
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That hoops board is a cesspool. Always has been. Always will be. There are a few Ape Room and Gridiron board regulars that bring some substance, but otherwise it's pure t-shirt fan trash.
Agreed. Some of the most delusional, falsely self-entitled, "I got my gear at WalMart" types. My favorite was the post claiming they would have won with Embid. Yes, and they probably would have won with Wilt Chamberlain, Jo Jo White, and scores of others.
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The only thing missing is the mid majors being allowed in the tourney narrative, and they'll have covered all the bases.
WSU will NEVER be better than Kansas. Even if we never win another game, our record for the last 100+ years and our tradition will always make our program better than a mid-major.
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The entire VanVleet thread is just rough ridin' amazing. I'm not even sure what the dynamics are. It's like watching Arrested Development from a cold start in season 3. You have no idea who the characters are, but you recognize that something wonderful and unique is unfolding before you:
What a stupid ass post!! You are a real douche bag!!! Get the F off this board with ***** comments like this you dumb$$$$!! What a snobbish low class comment by YOU!!!
Van Vleet made some eye opening comments that many of us could see.
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The only thing missing is the mid majors being allowed in the tourney narrative, and they'll have covered all the bases.
WSU will NEVER be better than Kansas. Even if we never win another game, our record for the last 100+ years and our tradition will always make our program better than a mid-major.
This is delusional. They just pantsed us on national television in a matchup they've been wanting for almost a generation. They certainly were better, and right now, at this moment, they're the best team in the state. Someone cut the power to the junior high computer lab for God's sake.
Oh yeah, well how is a junior high computer lab going to be open at 1 in the morning Einstein? Jokes on you pal
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I can't really find it in myself to give a goddam about guys like Oubre who come in and underachieve for 6 months before bolting for perceived greener pastures. Best of luck to him I guess. :bball:
And then on the flip side you have guys like Selden that you really wish would go pro just so he isn't back in the program the following year. He's ceiling out and never going to be much better than he is right now, with also the capability to put up 0 points like today.
Some guys think they can throw on the Kansas jersey and that makes them good. That is what these guys thought. They had tons of talent but were the most heartless, stupid group of players I have seen in years. They just took for granite they were KU players.
NEVER TAKE KU FOR GRANITE!
Supposed OADs better be polished when you get them, because they're not going to be around long enough to coach them up.
This team played like crap 3/4 of the season. They won some tight games that could have gone either way. They somehow won the Big 12, which, after this weekend shows that they were a bunch of chumps.
Ellis is a great kid but he's highly introverted and looks like he's sad all the time. Selden and Jamari are space cadets.
On Selden reportedly being the cockiest player on the team:
Which is hilarious, because he is far and away the worst player on the team. He's had a few big games, but not enough to warrant the liability of having him on the court. I honestly wish him and Greene would just transfer, because they are clearly of the opinion that putting on a Jayhawks uniform entitles them to not give a flip and/or play horrendously. I would include Jamari too, but I like him, and he's capable of hustling like a maniac. Hopefully he develops big time over the summer.
Losing to a commuter school full of dorks who couldn't hack it at KU hurts.
I'm so glad I haven't lived in Wichita in 17 years.
This is a classic:
They are inferior to us and they are out hustling us. Out toughing us. Etc. This is embarrassing. We are losing due to effort and coaching. That's not acceptable. I'm fine with us losing to better players but that's not what's happening.
Them beating us means nothing.... makes them the same as VCU or Northern Iowa..... a mid major with a complex.
next season we should only schedule mid majors during the non conference. screw playing the ranked teams. what exactly is the point of having the #1 SOS if you are just going to get embarrassed by a mid major in the ncaa tournamant? not to mention winning the big 12 only to see half of the big 12 teams lose on the first day of the touranament. yeah big 12 is the best conference... what a joke.
OOOOOOOOOH MY!
Definitely sucks living in wichita. My phone has been blowing up non stop with the s*** talking. Funny thing is that 50% of the wsu fanbase was diehard ku fans until their final four run. The bandwagon is growing fast.
What's worse I can't even drink this away because I'm about to pop out another one in less than a month. I'll just give it a few days and will feel better after that.
I just included this one for the random @ing
Why? Did they move Wichta State's campus to a different city? The positives and negatives of playing them are no different today than they were a week ago. It's not like KU is booking guaranteed wins. Do we not remember our game @Temple this year? This doesn't change anything. We still gain less playing @WSU than we do @ any good team in a different recruiting area.
A debate on confy champs vs tourney runs (very delicious)
One team wins this stupid crap shoot of a tourney. One.
Losses like today are why we have so many fans who devalue what happens in the tournament. We dominate the little 12 and then procede to piss down our leg in March. If it were the other way around, nobody would give a sh*t whether we win the conference or not. But since it's not that way, so many fans put way too much stock into these worthless Big 12 titles.
Anyone who does not value conference championships is not a real KU fan. Who else do you want o win them? K-State?
The two are not mutually exclusive. However, for the sake of this argument, I would guess that OU or West Virginia would decline the opportunity to trade places with KU right now. And I am only slightly less confident that Iowa State would gladly give up its Big XII tourney title in exchange for two more points against UAB.
Play to seed and ku should definitely have more FR and NCs
Maybe we should start chanting "National Champs" instead of "B12 Champs" before every game.
Izzo gets a lot of credit, but he has underperformed in the FF where it matters most.
This is amazing, also:
Sure he hasn't won it in 15 years but he's also recruiting to East Lansing and MSU and not Lawrence and KU
Sky is falling:
look guys, this loss is serious damage to our national reputation as a program. we just won't be taken as seriously. we were underdogs at tip in the round of 32 as a 2 seed for god's sake. and it was justified. we just dropped a notch or 2 or 3. and rightfully so, for the moment.
we do however, still, have the best home court advantage in the nation. but this will probably hurt recruiting. we've gone down twice in a row as a 2 seed in the 2nd round, and this last time the nation saw it coming and yet it still happened, against a mid-major. couldn't be a worse development.
Wait, nope:
I disagree, KU won't have any trouble recruiting. Not like players were choosing Kansas over Kentucy anyway.
More on OADs
The whole OAD thing has worked for Kentucky because they are allow to just play. For what ever reason Bill Self is just not successful with OAD.
we do better with gritty vets than he does with flashy six-month types. If we had our same talent combined with WSU's heart, we would be unstoppable.
(NOTE: I cut out all the "THAT LIAR MARSHALL" posts for brevity)
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I havent scoured the entire thread, has moving to the big 10 to play against decent competition been brought up?
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Some guys think they can throw on the Kansas jersey and that makes them good. That is what these guys thought. They had tons of talent but were the most heartless, stupid group of players I have seen in years. They just took for granite they were KU players.
NEVER TAKE KU FOR GRANITE!
oh, man :drool:
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allen field house has no where near the atmosphere that cameron indoor stadium does
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It was, basically, a replay of the Big 12 tournament final loss — so much so that Self opened his postgame press conference by congratulating Iowa State, before correcting himself to Wichita State.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article16057400.html
:eek:
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My heart is broken and the tears are finally flowing. #rcjh #kubball
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They really worry about getting "1 star'd". :frown:
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Thanks for the heroes in this thread. Great read.
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Definitely sucks living in wichita. My phone has been blowing up non stop with the s*** talking. Funny thing is that 50% of the wsu fanbase was diehard ku fans until their final four run. The bandwagon is growing fast.
This guy is such a boss. I mean, his phone is blowing up you guys!
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If you're a KU fan, are there phog alternatives out there? Some kind of getembeakers.com? I feel like we're picking on the squawks by only trolling the bottom.
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I havent scoured the entire thread, has moving to the big 10 to play against decent competition been brought up?
If it's consistent with other Phog threads, they can't wait for the conference to blow up so they can have their pick of the conference lucky enough to get their legendary basketball program. When I get time, I'll look.
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Wow, its really mean over there. Its like they don't realize how god dam thunderstruck lucky they were by landing Self after Roy left.
I almost want self to leave just to watch them freak out when their new coach goes 22-10 (11-7 t3rd) and gets a 6 seed his first year.
self is a great coach but i do believe his best days may be behind him. and it doesn't make me less of a ku fan for saying that.
Bill Self risks becoming a guy like Bob Stoops or Mike Shanahan in Denver… guys who became complacent and stubborn to change.
JOHN THUNDERSTRUCK BEILEIN IS CLOSING FAST!!!!
K
Cal
Izzo
Pitino
Roy
are all clearly better than him at this point. And guys like Sean Miller, Bo Ryan and John Beilein are closing fast.
Bill has betting on the wrong horses both in recruiting and who gets minutes. Selden has been a double-whiff thus far. Perhaps he can turn it around but he blocked Frankamp last year, Svi, Graham, and Oubre (partially) this year, from playing and developing. I'll never understand why Mickelson didn't get more time this year. It would've been huge to have someone who could block some shots. Baffling. And then we get guys like Wiggins, Alexander, and Oubre. Good (Wiggins) to decent (Alexander) players but Okafor's, Winslow's, Russell's they are not. He's just not getting the right kind of talent.
Guyz, they figured it out. They need less 5 star's and more DITR gritters who will play hard and hit 3's.
Great coach.
Perhaps could evaluate how he puts together a roster. Seems to pass on local, Midwestern guys who are ballers, play hard and can consistently hit '3's.
We need more Travis Relefords.
Quit passing on guys like Wessel, TRelly's lil' bro and Tyler Kalinoski, who won A-10 POY.
HEAVEN FORBID OUR COACH IS COMPARABLE TO A HOF BASEBALL COACH
He is the Bobby Cox of college basketball.
ITS ALL BGL's FAULT!
Self took a lot of ish from the local media over the Morrii, Robinson, TT and Sherron being "thugs". We had the KC Star routinely writing articles bashing our players for their attitudes and KK was calling for the school to cancel the program. As stupid as that stuff was, it prolly didn't sit well with BGL. Ever since that group of players, he's gone out and recruited exclusively S-A-W-F-T players, both in personality and physical play.
I thought Cliff was goin to bring some of that attitude to the team, but we know how that worked out.
Just makes me wonder if Bill was told he needs to recruit more "image-friendly" players.
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Definitely sucks living in wichita. My phone has been blowing up non stop with the s*** talking. Funny thing is that 50% of the wsu fanbase was diehard ku fans until their final four run. The bandwagon is growing fast.
This is pretty accurate.
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Sawft?
Gonna win 'em all!
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
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Definitely sucks living in wichita. My phone has been blowing up non stop with the s*** talking. Funny thing is that 50% of the wsu fanbase was diehard ku fans until their final four run. The bandwagon is growing fast.
This is pretty accurate.
Your screen name and his association with the winning program is not lost on me...
:thumbs:
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
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Felix = hero
thanks for the work
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Marshall probably said some baller stuff like: "It doesn't make it any more special that it was against a state school, we beat the opponent in front of us and we're in the sweet 16 now". And KU fans just know that this was their super bowl!
:shakesfist:
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
I think it's all about the semantics argument from the last 3-4 years about whether Gregg making jokes on stage at an event in wichita to Seff about playing constitutes him "calling" Seff for a game.
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I just found the perfect vine for KU fans, who love to fancy themselves as a top tier basketball program
https://vine.co/v/MYQ12vPlmIa
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Yea, I think it has to do with their belief that if anyone other than Self is passive aggressive they're a douche/liar/etc. Self is classy about it tho.
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
I think it's all about the semantics argument from the last 3-4 years about whether Gregg making jokes on stage at an event in wichita to Seff about playing constitutes him "calling" Seff for a game.
I still don't understand
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They are just don't like getting silver backed.
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
I think it's all about the semantics argument from the last 3-4 years about whether Gregg making jokes on stage at an event in wichita to Seff about playing constitutes him "calling" Seff for a game.
I still don't understand
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ITS ALL BGL's FAULT!
Self took a lot of ish from the local media over the Morrii, Robinson, TT and Sherron being "thugs". We had the KC Star routinely writing articles bashing our players for their attitudes and KK was calling for the school to cancel the program. As stupid as that stuff was, it prolly didn't sit well with BGL. Ever since that group of players, he's gone out and recruited exclusively S-A-W-F-T players, both in personality and physical play.
I thought Cliff was goin to bring some of that attitude to the team, but we know how that worked out.
Just makes me wonder if Bill was told he needs to recruit more "image-friendly" players.
holy crap!
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Marshall probably said some baller stuff like: "It doesn't make it any more special that it was against a state school, we beat the opponent in front of us and we're in the sweet 16 now". And KU fans just know that this was their super bowl!
:shakesfist:
But the Shockers are still involved. In the process, questions over scheduling Kansas were pushed aside.
“They may want to play now. Who knows?’’ Marshall said. “I have no idea. I’m not worried about that. I’m fine letting the series lay the way it is right now. The series is good with me at this point.’’
http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2015-03-22/kevin-haskin-shockers-attack-jayhawks-vulnerabilities-advance-sweet-16
Tom
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
I think it's all about the semantics argument from the last 3-4 years about whether Gregg making jokes on stage at an event in wichita to Seff about playing constitutes him "calling" Seff for a game.
I still don't understand
Google gregg marshall chhickenhawks. I think the sequence was that after they won the nit, he said at the pep rally that the squawks were scared to play wsu and called them chickenhawks. Zulu said Gregg needs to watch his mouth. When pushed on his claim that he'd called Seff about a game, Gregg explained he meant his comment on the hoopapalooza (?) stage or something. Squawks say stage remarks don't equal calling, and thus he's a liar. Like Izzo.
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Bald ex vtech coach says it's not KU's job to help WSU build their program. I agree. It would be more fun for everyone if the 3 teams all played each other. But I agree KU doesn't have anything to gain by playing them. The state of KS would benefit ad a whole if they all played. Provided WSU and KSU hold up their end of the program bargain.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/3/23/8273395/wichita-state-kansas-is-not-a-rivalry-but-it-gave-the-shockers-the (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/3/23/8273395/wichita-state-kansas-is-not-a-rivalry-but-it-gave-the-shockers-the)
Even on the message boards, the pockets of the most extreme fandom, there was no real vitriol to be found. Up until Friday morning, there was no KU hate — nothing even about gaining respect — on the ShockerNet.net basketball forum, and the only real hatred came from a KU fan, who hoped Wichita State fans were ready for the "whoopin" the Jayhawks were going to put on their "sorry ass program." That incited some bickering, but the reaction was more of a surprised, "uhh ... what?"
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If everyone's perfectly honest with themselves though, as things stand today, WSU has more to lose from a series with KU.
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If everyone's perfectly honest with themselves though, as things stand today, WSU has more to lose from a series with KU.
yes. I agree. Not gEing.
They have proven that they are better than KU. If they play again and lose, then this recent victory is brushed aside as 'luck'.
Gonna win 'em all!
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If everyone's perfectly honest with themselves though, as things stand today, WSU has more to lose from a series with KU.
Well, unless KU gives up a home game.
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It would create a Sophie's Choice of T-Shirt fanbases. No longer would these people be able to buy both.
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oscar should schedule a series with WSU.
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We have everything to gain and nothing to lose!
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It would create a Sophie's Choice of T-Shirt fanbases. No longer would these people be able to buy both.
I don't think that's true. Wichita folk are shameless in their bandwagon sports fan logic. They have perfected living with constant cognitive dissonance.
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I just thought I'd take a peek at the Ape Room, since I hadn't been in a while
Addicted to Ass
03/06/2015
(14 votes)
Does anyone else have this problem? I have an uncontrollable addiction to staring at hot ass. Particularly in yoga pants. I dont mean I just enjoy looking... I have a serious problem with getting distracted from work, grocery shopping, talking etc. I could be having a totally professional conversation with a co-worker, but the minute that hottie walks by me in her yoga pants... its over.I Lose all focus and can only think about said ass. Does anyone else have this issue?
good grief, what trash
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Sheesh. That thread!
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There should be a thread titled, "Addicted to Haase"
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Locker room areas
7:58 PM
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Does anyone have any footage this year of self and Marshall interacting behind the scenes? I want to see if self silver backed Marshall off the court. That really showed that self is th better man and concerned about what matters in a basketball team.
Silver backed?
Is that like a chicken wing?
I don't what they mean either, but it's the phrase of the day over there. Silverback gorilla somehow meaning dominate male?
So I just googled this term and the definition does not belong on this family blog. Just despicable what's going on over there.
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Why is Marshall a liar? Totally in the dark about this rhetoric.
Yeah, I was curious about this, too.
I think it's all about the semantics argument from the last 3-4 years about whether Gregg making jokes on stage at an event in wichita to Seff about playing constitutes him "calling" Seff for a game.
I still don't understand
Google gregg marshall chhickenhawks. I think the sequence was that after they won the nit, he said at the pep rally that the squawks were scared to play wsu and called them chickenhawks. Zulu said Gregg needs to watch his mouth. When pushed on his claim that he'd called Seff about a game, Gregg explained he meant his comment on the hoopapalooza (?) stage or something. Squawks say stage remarks don't equal calling, and thus he's a liar. Like Izzo.
Well if that isn't some good ole fashion silver backin' I don't know what is!!!!
(I still don't know what is, is)
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Oh man I so hope Self leaves. Can you imagine who Zulu would hire? Probably Tom Penders or Florida's 2nd assistant coach or something like that.
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Oh man I so hope Self leaves. Can you imagine who Zulu would hire? Probably Tom Penders or Florida's 2nd assistant coach or something like that.
Worked when they hired Roy.
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I just thought I'd take a peek at the Ape Room, since I hadn't been in a while
Addicted to Ass
03/06/2015
(14 votes)
Does anyone else have this problem? I have an uncontrollable addiction to staring at hot ass. Particularly in yoga pants. I dont mean I just enjoy looking... I have a serious problem with getting distracted from work, grocery shopping, talking etc. I could be having a totally professional conversation with a co-worker, but the minute that hottie walks by me in her yoga pants... its over.I Lose all focus and can only think about said ass. Does anyone else have this issue?
good grief, what trash
KU fan just silver backing that ass.
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I just thought I'd take a peek at the Ape Room, since I hadn't been in a while
Addicted to Ass
03/06/2015
(14 votes)
Does anyone else have this problem? I have an uncontrollable addiction to staring at hot ass. Particularly in yoga pants. I dont mean I just enjoy looking... I have a serious problem with getting distracted from work, grocery shopping, talking etc. I could be having a totally professional conversation with a co-worker, but the minute that hottie walks by me in her yoga pants... its over.I Lose all focus and can only think about said ass. Does anyone else have this issue?
good grief, what trash
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:sdeek:
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Were squawks mad about today's PTI?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IBYuD41uQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IBYuD41uQ
:lol:
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Do they realize this is their golden age?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IBYuD41uQ
No mention of silverbacking?
:dunno:
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K-State facebook fans bringing the heat!
Bill Self reportedly left Omaha yesterday on a recruiting trip to Mexico. He has two prospects that will fit right into the program...Juan & Don!
:frown:
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K-State facebook fans bringing the heat!
Bill Self reportedly left Omaha yesterday on a recruiting trip to Mexico. He has two prospects that will fit right into the program...Juan & Don!
:frown:
:opcat: :opcat: :opcat:
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On the topic of hummus...
I like it but it certainly makes me uncomfortable liking muslim food. I've been feeling a little terrorist-y lately.
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RIP
Most pathetic bought and paid for officiating I have seen in 45+ years following basketball.
I haven't seen reffing that bad since the 2001 Title game where Duke "beat" Arizona. Go back and watch that game, then watch this game. Probably the 2 worst reffed games I've ever seen. And they both gave Duke a title.
It's one thing to blow calls live but when you have clear, conclusive video evidence and still get it wrong? That's when we have a problem. But the entire country knew the refs would do anything they could to help Duke.
I'm sure I will get roped into the NCAA torunament again next year, but I need to remind myself that the outcome is pre-determined and not get so involved.
No clue. But I know Wisconsin fouls less than any team in the country. They had kids getting ran over and still got fouls called on them.
Okafor must have had 8 fouls alone, himself. Pathetic.
Absolutely disgusting what this sport has turned into. What a bunch of ********
Duke players were literally throwing themselves into Wisconsin's players and falling over and won a title doing it. Not only did Duke get a bunch of free trips to the line, it changed the way Wisconsin was defended. The way the game was officiated (or mis-officiated) changed the momentum of the game. Credit to Duke for taking advantage, but I've never seen a title game tilted by officiating like that
I'm a KU fan and had only passing interest in this game so I'm kind of a neutral observer.
This game was CLEARLY officiated for Duke. They called fouls on Duke in the first half and early in the second.
But when it mattered, and after the demi-god K got on the refs at halftime, the game was over.
The number of non-calls on Duke's "aggressiveness" on offense was staggering.
I used to love college basketball. Never missed a KU game. But this tarnishes the sport almost as much as the silent UNC scandal.
**** the NCAA.
I gotta ask: is Duke's 2015 championship as legit as Colorado's 5th down championship?
it's an awful game right now... just awful. Duke has benefited mightily from it too. They will just start next season in the double bonus and stay there. K got into the refs after half, and he's got 5 now. Good for him; he gets away with it.
The beginning of the end was Laettner not getting tossed for the stomp, then they flopped Maryland out of a title shot in '01, then ass-mauled Butler to get another one... and here we are.
I miss what a fluid, lovely game this used to be
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I'm a KU fan and had only passing interest in this game so I'm kind of a neutral observer.
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Phog is so cute. Ranking the last 10 champs, they actually believe their 2008 is only bested by UK 2012 team...lol
09 UNC team trailed 5:20 the whole tourney and won each game by 10+. Fla 07 team is clearly better. And they weren't even the best team in 08. Memphis had an impressive tourney b4 putting 2 hands around their throat up 9 with 125 secs left
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i was actually amazed at all of the calls wisconsin was getting in the first half. they had, what, 2 team files deep, deep into the 1st half? then it seemed to even out in the second half.
but what do i know, i'm just an IBiot. :frown:
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I would post some more but my god it is an asylum over there, they're really, really mad :curse:
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They really think about Duke a lot.
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They really think about Duke a lot.
Well, it's what they aspire to be. There are only 6 teams with more titles than them and Duke is one of them.
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I'm not really in the mood to listen to Wisconsin (or KU fans) complain about officiating, even though they had a couple of legit gripes.
Okafor and Winslow were in foul trouble for most of the game. I thought the fourth foul on Okafor was kind of sketchy at best given the amount of contact that was allowed for most of the game.
Wisconsin got beat by Grayson Allen. I mean, sure, Jones went off, but a guy who averaged 4 points and 9 minutes a game played 21 minutes and scored 16 points. He was basically the only reason they were able to stay in the game when Okafor was on the bench.
So, everyone can whine all they want about the officiating, but it's not like Duke wasn't impacted at all. They just had a role player step up, and Dekker basically choked. That's how I'm viewing it.
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Full disclosure: I've been a Duke fan since I was ten years old, and they're my #2 team.
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It's fascinating that a fanbase can cry about officiating so much yet still contend this was a clean play :ROFL:
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They really think about Duke a lot.
Well, it's what they aspire to be. There are only 6 teams with more titles than them and Duke is one of them.
Not very TSC of me but that's why I wanted Duke to win, not because I like Duke, but because ku hates Duke and having Duke do things ku only gets to experience once every 20 years when Duke has done it about once every 5 really, really gets to them.
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I know KU fans have little man syndrome, but in general, why do people cheer against good teams? Everyone (besides the studs on this board) were cheering for Kentucky to lose, and then Duke. I'm sure part of it is jealousy, but good grief, why do people cheer so hard for teams to not achieve greatness?
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I know KU fans have little man syndrome, but in general, why do people cheer against good teams? Everyone (besides the studs on this board) were cheering for Kentucky to lose, and then Duke. I'm sure part of it is jealousy, but good grief, why do people cheer so hard for teams to not achieve greatness?
Everyone likes the underdog. Rooting for the favorite is boring.
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They weren't cheering for the underdog. They were cheering against the favorite.
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I was rooting for Kentucky FWIW. I would like to see a team run the table during my lifetime.
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I was rooting for Kentucky against Wisconsin and for Wisconsin against Duke. But after Bo's post game comments, I'm kind of glad Duke won.
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I know KU fans have little man syndrome, but in general, why do people cheer against good teams? Everyone (besides the studs on this board) were cheering for Kentucky to lose, and then Duke. I'm sure part of it is jealousy, but good grief, why do people cheer so hard for teams to not achieve greatness?
i don't like kentucky, like i don't like KU. i can't imagine having to list the reasons why i feel that way, but if you're interested, spend some time in lexington and then ask yourself if you've ever met a similar fanbase filled with delusion and self importance. your answer will be yes you have.
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I was rooting for Kentucky against Wisconsin and for Wisconsin against Duke. But after Bo's post game comments, I'm kind of glad Duke won.
what did he say, I missed it?
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I was rooting for Kentucky against Wisconsin and for Wisconsin against Duke. But after Bo's post game comments, I'm kind of glad Duke won.
what did he say, I missed it?
He whined about the officials and "rent a players". Supposedly he meant 5th year transfers, but I don't know why he was talking about that. Still.
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So it's all fixed, the NCAA tourney is unfair, refs are bought and paid for etc. etc. So if it's so awful when are they going to admit that it's a hobby sport that's about a half step higher than WWE or UFC?
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I was rooting for Kentucky against Wisconsin and for Wisconsin against Duke. But after Bo's post game comments, I'm kind of glad Duke won.
what did he say, I missed it?
He whined about the officials and "rent a players". Supposedly he meant 5th year transfers, but I don't know why he was talking about that. Still.
It was quite a whine
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They weren't cheering for the underdog. They were cheering against the favorite.
Maybe. This Kentucky team is the greatest college basketball team I have ever watched, and losing a tournament game doesn't change that. To me, it was exciting to see a team actually beat them.
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91ksjayhawk: Went over to Rupp Rafters after their loss to see the meltdown for myself. I was surprised with the number of UK Fans who openly admitted "Everybody hates us." I don't see how you can be a fan of a team with a slimy coach and dislikable players that you know everyone despises. Would one of the numerous Kentucky Trolls, who are immune to ban, like to explain????
QuothTheRavenNormore: Hahaha yeah, if KU had hired Cal instead of HCBS I'm sure you'd have marched
up to AFH and turned in your Jayhawk fan card.
SWHawk: KU would never hire that slime ball in the first place.
(note: could not tell if this was a joke or not)
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91ksjayhawk: Went over to Rupp Rafters after their loss to see the meltdown for myself. I was surprised with the number of UK Fans who openly admitted "Everybody hates us." I don't see how you can be a fan of a team with a slimy coach and dislikable players that you know everyone despises. Would one of the numerous Kentucky Trolls, who are immune to ban, like to explain????
QuothTheRavenNormore: Hahaha yeah, if KU had hired Cal instead of HCBS I'm sure you'd have marched
up to AFH and turned in your Jayhawk fan card.
SWHawk: KU would never hire that slime ball in the first place.
(note: could not tell if this was a joke or not)
This has always entertained me when the t-shirt fans/sidewalk alums talk crap with one another...
Most of us are actual alums or students of K-State, so its not like we can just "march up and turn in our fan card". I mean I suppose you could, but why would you want to just arbitrarily pick a school to associate with?
:dunno:
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I'm glad that the world was still able to see that Bo Ryan isn't really a likable coach. I think people were falling in love with his kids and forgetting that you shouldn't root for him.
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I'm glad that the world was still able to see that Bo Ryan isn't really a likable coach. I think people were falling in love with his kids and forgetting that you shouldn't root for him.
He's probably the basketball equivalent to Bill in many ways.
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I mean I suppose you could, but why would you want to just arbitrarily pick a school to associate with?
When I was a kid, I arbitrarily had to choose. I only had two relatives that went to college, and they both went to Wichita State. There was no way that I was going to root for Wichita State. I didn't like KU, and I didn't have any connections with KSU at all, so rooting for them really wasn't in the cards.
I think some people pick those teams as kids and hold on to it. Especially, if you were a fan of a school in a different state, but you ended up going to an in-state school or something.
I don't follow Duke with the enthusiasm that I did back in high school, but I do watch a handful of games each year, and I do follow them in the tournament. I really don't care if they win or lose, but I'm happy when they win.
Now, compare that with KSU, and there are times that I feel physically ill when they lose, so it's not like there's really a comparison any longer.
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I'm glad that the world was still able to see that Bo Ryan isn't really a likable coach. I think people were falling in love with his kids and forgetting that you shouldn't root for him.
He's probably the basketball equivalent to Bill in many ways.
I thought about that a lot. Bo is Snyder I. He hasn't had the opportunity to step out of the game and come back as a completely lovable and revered icon.
There is absolutely a difference in Bill's personality now as opposed to ten years ago. He's a much, much better interview and seems to be much less prickly.
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I'm glad that the world was still able to see that Bo Ryan isn't really a likable coach. I think people were falling in love with his kids and forgetting that you shouldn't root for him.
He's probably the basketball equivalent to Bill in many ways.
Bill doesn't whine about the refs, at least not very often
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I mean I suppose you could, but why would you want to just arbitrarily pick a school to associate with?
When I was a kid, I arbitrarily had to choose. I only had two relatives that went to college, and they both went to Wichita State. There was no way that I was going to root for Wichita State. I didn't like KU, and I didn't have any connections with KSU at all, so rooting for them really wasn't in the cards.
I think some people pick those teams as kids and hold on to it. Especially, if you were a fan of a school in a different state, but you ended up going to an in-state school or something.
I don't follow Duke with the enthusiasm that I did back in high school, but I do watch a handful of games each year, and I do follow them in the tournament. I really don't care if they win or lose, but I'm happy when they win.
Now, compare that with KSU, and there are times that I feel physically ill when they lose, so it's not like there's really a comparison any longer.
I totally get that... I was sort of a USC football fan as a lad, but all that went away once I chose "my school".
I suppose my original point had to do with the uneducated masses moreso.
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I was cheering against Wisconsin for obvious reasons.
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I did not want Wisconsin to win. At all.
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I did not want Wisconsin to win. At all.
I've gotten this from more than one Big Ten fan. A Gopher fan I know absolutely hates them with scorched Earth tenacity.
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I did not want Wisconsin to win. At all.
I've gotten this from more than one Big Ten fan. A Gopher fan I know absolutely hates them with scorched Earth tenacity.
The big 10 seems to be the polar opposite of the SEC when it comes to intraconference brotherhood... Seems that there is a lot of intense animosity amongst the big 10 schools to the point where they don't want to see anybody else in conference do well, whereas the SEC schools will gladly cheer for and tag-along on any successes by any member institution.
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I'd feel differently if Illinois weren't crap and hadn't been for the last eight years or so. It doesn't mean anything to me if Duke wins. If shitface Wisconsin does it then it makes me even angrier at Illinois' bullshit.
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I mean it just makes me rage and then I want to wreck everybody else's crap and then nobody has nice things.
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ya, i couldn't handle a wisconsin basketball championship.
basketball. wisconsin. championship.
i. . . i just couldn't handle it. now, i'll never have to.