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Title: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: nicname on January 25, 2015, 12:08:51 AM
Has TV surpassed movies?

I've always loved movies. That old commercial "make it a Blockbuster night" fits me pretty good. In the last year or so though I'm pretty sure I've remembered and been more excited to watch way more TV shows than movies.

Is TV just better now? Do you see movies making a comeback? Are movies still the best? When will we see TV characters/ actors earning more than big-screen stars?
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: The Big Train on January 25, 2015, 12:19:52 AM
movies have like 1000x better CGI so im gonna go with movies
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 12:25:34 AM
i can watch a tv series maybe 5 times before i'm sick of it, there are movies i've seen that top 100 times easily
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 25, 2015, 02:46:41 AM
i can watch a tv series maybe 5 times before i'm sick of it, there are movies i've seen that top 100 times easily

Watching a TV series 5 times and a movie over a hundred is probably the same number of hours.

TV is surpassing movies. Last year was the lowest amount of $ that movie theaters have made in a long time. There are a few reasons I think this is happening:

1. Better actors and directors. TV series are not seen as just a stepping stone into movies anymore.
2. Netflix, Hulu Plus, etc. make it easier to follow an entire series instead of having to make shows that are episode to episode with a couple storylines that last a while.
3. People go to the movies to get the phenomenon known as "baby brained". All of your attention is on the movie and you can forget about whatever is going on in your life because you're staring at a huge screen in a dark room. With TVs the size and quality they are, we can now recreate this phenomenon at home.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 25, 2015, 03:43:11 AM
i really think it depends on the story being told.  some stories are best told in the runtime of a movie. some need a great deal of time to develop.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 11:52:44 AM
No TV show has ever effected me emotionally like a movie is able to. TV shows are the Guardians of the Galaxy of the movie world, fun to watch, but no lasting effects
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: hemmy on January 25, 2015, 01:03:17 PM
No TV show has ever effected me emotionally like a movie is able to. TV shows are the Guardians of the Galaxy of the movie world, fun to watch, but no lasting effects

That is the complete opposite of reality.  The only advantage movies have is their budget. TV is better is every way.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Bloodfart on January 25, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
I recently got Amazon Prime.  Do you think I have spent a single second watching a tv series?  eff no, you know why because that crap takes too long. 
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Bloodfart on January 25, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
 :popcorn: <---- me watching Tucker & Dale Vs Evil
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: CNS on January 25, 2015, 03:31:19 PM
Tv has more time to develop characters and plot.  Movies blow stuff up.  I prefer development. 
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 03:33:07 PM
Feel sorry for you dudes that only watch shitty movies.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: nicname on January 25, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
i can watch a tv series maybe 5 times before i'm sick of it, there are movies i've seen that top 100 times easily

Watching a TV series 5 times and a movie over a hundred is probably the same number of hours.

TV is surpassing movies. Last year was the lowest amount of $ that movie theaters have made in a long time. There are a few reasons I think this is happening:

1. Better actors and directors. TV series are not seen as just a stepping stone into movies anymore.
2. Netflix, Hulu Plus, etc. make it easier to follow an entire series instead of having to make shows that are episode to episode with a couple storylines that last a while.
3. People go to the movies to get the phenomenon known as "baby brained". All of your attention is on the movie and you can forget about whatever is going on in your life because you're staring at a huge screen in a dark room. With TVs the size and quality they are, we can now recreate this phenomenon at home.

There is a lot of truth in this. One thing, and I think this is where lib^7 is coming from, is that it's incredibly rare for a single episode of a TV show to leave a lasting impression or be profoundly moving to the viewer. Great movies can deliver that.

I think the growth in television has made poor film-making both on TV and the big screen stick out like a sore thumb.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
TV comedies have probably passed movie comedy, but drama is still pretty far behind
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: michigancat on January 25, 2015, 04:25:46 PM
I look at serial TV series as 12 hour movies. They're much better than actual movies. They're more creative, have deeper character development, and can explore a variety of subplots that get lost in a nice neat 2 hour package.

It isn't close, really.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 25, 2015, 04:55:01 PM
I can't believe I left better character development off of my list. That's my number 1 argument and probably the most important aspect of a TV series or movie to me. Obviously TV series blow movies out of the water in this category.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: nicname on January 25, 2015, 04:56:15 PM
We could probably just say that it is easier, in today's climate, to make a great TV show than it is to make a great movie.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 25, 2015, 04:59:12 PM
Another part is that people seem to do quite a bit of research before starting a TV show, while watching almost any movie they come across that sounds remotely interesting. Really makes the batting average on what shows you watch a lot higher, curving the numbers.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
TV got better because they started being more like movies, but they are still the little brother.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 05:34:32 PM
Another part is that people seem to do quite a bit of research before starting a TV show, while watching almost any movie they come across that sounds remotely interesting. Really makes the batting average on what shows you watch a lot higher, curving the numbers.

Lol pretty damning evidence there Stevesie60 "hey, only the best TV shows are worth watching, but movies are always worth watching as long as they aren't super terrible"
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
We could probably just say that it is easier, in today's climate, to make a great TV show than it is to make a great movie.

Absolutely untrue
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: michigancat on January 25, 2015, 05:39:19 PM
lib is losing it
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
It's much easier to get a below average TV show made than a below average movie made tho
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 05:40:13 PM
lib is losing it

I'm daxxing out man!
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 25, 2015, 06:28:50 PM


i can watch a tv series maybe 5 times before i'm sick of it, there are movies i've seen that top 100 times easily

Watching a TV series 5 times and a movie over a hundred is probably the same number of hours.


Uhhh, not even close, dumbass.
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: michigancat on January 25, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Lib, which movies have you watched 100 times?
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 25, 2015, 06:38:03 PM


i can watch a tv series maybe 5 times before i'm sick of it, there are movies i've seen that top 100 times easily

Watching a TV series 5 times and a movie over a hundred is probably the same number of hours.


Uhhh, not even close, dumbass.

you don't know that.this is a very complicated case, man. you know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. and, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. lotta strands in old roider's head.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
fargo, the big lebowski, sin city, american beauty, the kill bills, jackie brown are all in the 10+ times a year since they came out range

fargo is easily the most.  a conservative guess would be 20 times a year for the last 15 years
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 25, 2015, 07:18:16 PM
Another part is that people seem to do quite a bit of research before starting a TV show, while watching almost any movie they come across that sounds remotely interesting. Really makes the batting average on what shows you watch a lot higher, curving the numbers.

Lol pretty damning evidence there Stevesie60 "hey, only the best TV shows are worth watching, but movies are always worth watching as long as they aren't super terrible"

It was an argument for movies, dude.
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2015, 09:33:36 PM
I cannot imagine watching an entire TV series 5 times
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: The Big Train on January 25, 2015, 09:34:31 PM
have you ever seen The Office?  omg
Title: Re: Tv &gt;&gt;&gt; Movies?
Post by: jmlynch1 on January 25, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
I cannot imagine watching an entire TV series 5 times
i can't imagine watching Fargo 20 times a year.
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2015, 11:50:13 PM
it's really good  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Tv >>> Movies?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 26, 2015, 08:33:44 AM
TV at it's very best is as good as movies at their very best. The vast majority of tv shows lose a whole lot of steam after 1-2 seasons and I only end up watching them because I've already invested a lot of time and want to see how it ends. Mini-series like Fargo and True Detective don't have that problem, but I'd probably have to give the edge to movies at this point.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 26, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
i agree with all of stevesies points.

i enjoy tv shows more, but thats because i dont have as many responsibilities in my life as most people do. if i had a 3 children i dont think i would have watched 3 hours of netflix and a movie yesterday.