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Title: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on December 29, 2014, 11:26:16 PM
What a great start to bowl season.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: OK_Cat on December 29, 2014, 11:32:23 PM
Shitty conference, not new news.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: bones129 on December 29, 2014, 11:37:55 PM
Bret wins. Coaching tree. No surprise. Go Cats.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: bones129 on December 29, 2014, 11:48:15 PM
BTW...I have degrees from KSU, KU, and Arky. Tough to take sides at times, but a TX loss to Arky is fine with me.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: star seed 7 on December 29, 2014, 11:50:16 PM
BTW...I have degrees from KSU, KU, and Arky. Tough to take sides at times, but a TX loss to Arky is fine with me.

That's the squawk in you talking
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2014, 11:55:21 PM
Meh. Exhibition games.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: bones129 on December 29, 2014, 11:56:21 PM
BTW...I have degrees from KSU, KU, and Arky. Tough to take sides at times, but a TX loss to Arky is fine with me.

That's the squawk in you talking

Wrong. KSU is my first loyalty. I'm happy if KU loses to anyone, including us. And Texas losses to any team is OK with me, also.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: The Big Train on December 29, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: star seed 7 on December 29, 2014, 11:57:15 PM
BTW...I have degrees from KSU, KU, and Arky. Tough to take sides at times, but a TX loss to Arky is fine with me.

That's the squawk in you talking

Wrong. KSU is my first loyalty. I'm happy if KU loses to anyone, including us. And Texas losses to any team is OK with me, also.

That's the squawk in you talking
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Yard Dog on December 30, 2014, 07:53:51 AM
After last nights performance I was laughing about how Baylor's shitty non con is going to hurt them even more next year. Then I remembered our non con schedule for next year. And I was sad.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 30, 2014, 08:05:46 AM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 30, 2014, 08:07:26 AM
After last nights performance I was laughing about how Baylor's shitty non con is going to hurt them even more next year. Then I remembered our non con schedule for next year. And I was sad.

That only matters if we finish 11-1 or 12-0, so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: treysolid on December 30, 2014, 08:09:03 AM
Pig aggie is a much better team than their record. Texas, however, is every bit a 6-6 team.

As far as the OU game is concerned - they are only dangerous when Knight is making plays (i.e. running) and he had 2 carries last night.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Yard Dog on December 30, 2014, 08:20:07 AM
After last nights performance I was laughing about how Baylor's shitty non con is going to hurt them even more next year. Then I remembered our non con schedule for next year. And I was sad.

That only matters if we finish 11-1 or 12-0, so don't worry about it.

 :pray: In that case I hope I am worrying about it this time next year.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: catzacker on December 30, 2014, 09:15:45 AM
meh.  the big 12 went 3-3 last year, with OU's win over Alabama being the most significant, probably Baylor's loss to UCF being the "worst"?.  that didn't lead into anything special this year for any team that won or lost their bowls.  the big 10 went 2-5 in bowls last year, and was considered a dogshit league until the last week of the CFPC's poll. 

what the league needs is for OU and UT to quit sucking so much rough ridin' ass.  They are both absolute rough ridin' disgraces.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on December 30, 2014, 10:12:31 AM
meh.  the big 12 went 3-3 last year, with OU's win over Alabama being the most significant, probably Baylor's loss to UCF being the "worst"?.  that didn't lead into anything special this year for any team that won or lost their bowls.  the big 10 went 2-5 in bowls last year, and was considered a dogshit league until the last week of the CFPC's poll. 

what the league needs is for OU and UT to quit sucking so much rough ridin' ass.  They are both absolute rough ridin' disgraces.

Makes sense, thanks 'Zacker
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: catzacker on December 30, 2014, 11:11:51 AM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong. 
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2014, 11:16:47 AM
Timing, 'Zacker. It's all about timing.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Panjandrum on December 30, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.

To be honest, a lot of coaches didn't want to deal with all of the LHN bullshit.

Taped practices, additional shows, etc. 
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 30, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.

To be honest, a lot of coaches didn't want to deal with all of the LHN bullshit.

Taped practices, additional shows, etc.

I'm pretty sure Texas hired the guy they wanted. I would have gone for Briles, but Strong is a very good football coach who could be successful at Texas if given enough time.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: KITNfury on December 30, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
If Baylor, tcu, and us win our bowls, the conference will appear strong. Nobody cares what the puds do in bowl games.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: catzacker on December 30, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
I don't think it really matters. Strong probably only has one more year.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on December 30, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.

Saban for sure - Was offered not just a boat load of money, but one USS Austin (RIPieces) and then the regular boat load to get him out of 'Bama.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Skipper44 on December 30, 2014, 11:34:09 AM
Michigan got lucky that Harbaugh's NFL options were controlled by the 49ers and he is an alum.  Texas is a better job by any metric than Michigan.

The lesson from the Strong hire is with all the top half of P5 jobs able to pay $4M+ if they want to is most coach's will stay with the current situation they know and keep what equity they have built than start over for slightly bigger bucks and bigger expectations.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 30, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.

Saban for sure - Was offered not just a boat load of money, but one USS Austin (RIPieces) and then the regular boat load to get him out of 'Bama.

Saban is going to retire in less than 10 years. You can't blame him for not wanting to start over.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 30, 2014, 11:39:26 AM
It's time that people start realizing that Texas and OU are no longer the class of the Big 12 and haven't been for about 4 years.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: everyone shut up on December 30, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
It's time that people start realizing that Texas and OU are no longer the class of the Big 12 and haven't been for about 4 years.
there is no "class of the big 12" anymore imo. this league lacks an identity.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 30, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
When I think of Big 12 football, I think of traditional powerhouse Kansas State, led by coach LHC Bill Snyder squaring off against new money programs like Baylor and TCU. OU and Texas are an afterthought.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 30, 2014, 12:03:18 PM
I think of a string of walk ons that would have kicked the eff out of Notre Dame in the natty had they been given a chance.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: TownieCat on December 30, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.

Saban for sure - Was offered not just a boat load of money, but one USS Austin (RIPieces) and then the regular boat load to get him out of 'Bama.

Saban is going to retire in less than 10 years. You can't blame him for not wanting to start over.

Starting over does not take as long as you think in college football, usually coaches get things turned around in 2-3 years. It only took Saban two years to get Bama from 6 wins to 12. Strong got Louisville from 4 wins to 11 wins in three. Tressel, Stoops, Meyer at Florida and Utah are other examples.

The talent gap between Texas and Alabama is not as much as you'd think...
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 30, 2014, 01:11:44 PM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.

Saban for sure - Was offered not just a boat load of money, but one USS Austin (RIPieces) and then the regular boat load to get him out of 'Bama.

Saban is going to retire in less than 10 years. You can't blame him for not wanting to start over.

Starting over does not take as long as you think in college football, usually coaches get things turned around in 2-3 years. It only took Saban two years to get Bama from 6 wins to 12. Strong got Louisville from 4 wins to 11 wins in three. Tressel, Stoops, Meyer at Florida and Utah are other examples.

The talent gap between Texas and Alabama is not as much as you'd think...

The talent gap is enormous. Texas didn't have anybody drafted last year.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: nicname on December 30, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
It's time that people start realizing that Texas and OU are no longer the class of the Big 12 and haven't been for about 4 years.
there is no "class of the big 12" anymore imo. this league lacks an identity.

There never will be one unless OU and UT are strong.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: deputy dawg on December 30, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: KITNfury on December 30, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
did UT really hire who they wanted?  I don't think so.  At least that's not my recollection.

Saban for sure - Was offered not just a boat load of money, but one USS Austin (RIPieces) and then the regular boat load to get him out of 'Bama.

Saban is going to retire in less than 10 years. You can't blame him for not wanting to start over.

Starting over does not take as long as you think in college football, usually coaches get things turned around in 2-3 years. It only took Saban two years to get Bama from 6 wins to 12. Strong got Louisville from 4 wins to 11 wins in three. Tressel, Stoops, Meyer at Florida and Utah are other examples.

The talent gap between Texas and Alabama is not as much as you'd think...

The talent gap is enormous. Texas didn't have anybody drafted last year.
An unpolished diamond ain't going on any wedding rings. But yea, bama has more talent.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: deputy dawg on December 30, 2014, 03:24:30 PM
BTW...I have degrees from KSU, KU, and Arky. Tough to take sides at times, but a TX loss to Arky is fine with me.

Arkansas is 2012 Baylor after Baylor beat us to ruin our natty prospects.  Arkansas is in the beginning of a long winning streak, Bielema had a great recruiting class, and he has the team playing at a high level.  I felt sorry for our CTR rivals for drawing Arky in a bowl game, Arky was going to destroy just about any team matched against them.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Demo158 on December 30, 2014, 03:40:07 PM
Charlie will have Texas rolling again in the next few years. They will soon return to prominence. There has clearly been a shift/spread in power in the conference that started four years ago. I, for one, am more excited for the conference when OU/UT aren't the only ones who are nationally relevant.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
We should play only big 10 teams
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: American Standard on December 30, 2014, 08:29:43 PM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.
This, simply, cannot be said enough. Mack, for all of his bitchassedness, was playing for the conference title in the final game last year with Case friggin McCoy at QB.

Harbaugh will change that program without having to kick half the two deep off the team. He doesn't care about buying time.

Charlie rocks a strong turtleneck though.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Katpappy on December 30, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
Charlie will have Texas rolling again in the next few years. They will soon return to prominence. There has clearly been a shift/spread in power in the conference that started four years ago. I, for one, am more excited for the conference when OU/UT aren't the only ones who are nationally relevant.
Oh Charlie will have them winning by next year; that is what he told the media when asked how long it will take them to get back to winning the conference.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Katpappy on December 30, 2014, 10:32:53 PM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.
This, simply, cannot be said enough. Mack, for all of his bitchassedness, was playing for the conference title in the final game last year with Case friggin McCoy at QB.

Harbaugh will change that program without having to kick half the two deep off the team. He doesn't care about buying time.

Charlie rocks a strong turtleneck though.
Any bets Texas kicks TCU ass next year.  :dubious:
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: nicname on December 30, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.
This, simply, cannot be said enough. Mack, for all of his bitchassedness, was playing for the conference title in the final game last year with Case friggin McCoy at QB.

Harbaugh will change that program without having to kick half the two deep off the team. He doesn't care about buying time.

Charlie rocks a strong turtleneck though.

This is all pretty stupid. Michigan went through two failed regimes to get to Jim H. and he hasn't done anything yet.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: bones129 on December 31, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
I mean, all that being said, Michigan needs a coach, they get Jim Harbaugh.  Texas needs a coach, they got Charlie Strong.
This, simply, cannot be said enough. Mack, for all of his bitchassedness, was playing for the conference title in the final game last year with Case friggin McCoy at QB.

Harbaugh will change that program without having to kick half the two deep off the team. He doesn't care about buying time.

Charlie rocks a strong turtleneck though.

This is all pretty stupid. Michigan went through two failed regimes to get to Jim H. and he hasn't done anything yet.

I suspect Harbaugh will get Michigan back to respectability before he bolts to the NFL again. But he won't do it until at least his seond year in AA.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Fedor on December 31, 2014, 11:49:58 AM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.
I think your info is out of date.
http://www.kumc.edu/school-of-health-professions/physical-therapy-and-rehabilitation-science.html
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: BackPayne on December 31, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.
I think your info is out of date.
http://www.kumc.edu/school-of-health-professions/physical-therapy-and-rehabilitation-science.html

My wife was the last OT class in B.S. program before it moved to a Master's level program and PT moved to a Doctoral program.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 31, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.

hello deputy dawg, I reviewed your post and then went into my office and checked my wife's PT diploma from KU Med and it still says doctor of physical therapy on it.  then I texted her and asked if she is a doctor and she said yes.  so you might want to double check your sources here.  happy new year
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 31, 2014, 12:36:47 PM
TCU is easily one of the top three teams in the country. It's going to be laughable listening to ESPN justify the OSU pick after they get blown out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on December 31, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
TCU has crap itself before, not over yet.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: 8manpick on December 31, 2014, 01:02:26 PM
TCU has crap itself before, not over yet.
Yes, it is over
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: 'taterblast on December 31, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
TCU has crap itself before, not over yet.

TCU has turned it over 3 times and it's 28-0. it's over.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 31, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
TCU has crap itself before, not over yet.

Baylor is not coming out of that tunnel in the 2nd half.  TCU is going to continue to take out their frustration and most casual fans will have changed the channel before the end of the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2014, 01:16:23 PM
TCU has crap itself before, not over yet.

This is akin to a bear mauling a smallish man covered in honey.

TCU is out for blood.  Ole Miss may get shut out.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: deputy dawg on December 31, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.

hello deputy dawg, I reviewed your post and then went into my office and checked my wife's PT diploma from KU Med and it still says doctor of physical therapy on it.  then I texted her and asked if she is a doctor and she said yes.  so you might want to double check your sources here.  happy new year
My understanding, then, is outdated.  I knew PT's had to get masters degrees, was not aware of doctoral program.  My bad.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: The Big Train on December 31, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
guys i dont think it was really that important
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 31, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
the best chance ole miss has to score any kind of points is to hope that tcu eventually gets bored of destroying bo wallace over and over again.  if that happens, they might be able to put together a drive and only lose by 50 or so.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 31, 2014, 01:33:30 PM
my cousin is getting her PT masters or whatever from ku med, she really debated going there.  until i told her it wouldnt affect her ksu undergrad allegiance

it's a doctorate program

 :nono:  Not a doctoral program.  You know that PT is short for Physical Therapy, right?  Their PT program is in their school of Allied Health, along with KU's OT (occupational therapy) program.  Both very highly rated nationally, but not doctoral programs.

hello deputy dawg, I reviewed your post and then went into my office and checked my wife's PT diploma from KU Med and it still says doctor of physical therapy on it.  then I texted her and asked if she is a doctor and she said yes.  so you might want to double check your sources here.  happy new year
My understanding, then, is outdated.  I knew PT's had to get masters degrees, was not aware of doctoral program.  My bad.

it's k.  friends?  :D
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 31, 2014, 01:43:50 PM
 Jfc TCU is carrying that Big Twelve torch.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Jfc TCU is carrying that Big Twelve torch.
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Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on December 31, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
Thank goodness.
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on January 01, 2015, 03:48:29 PM
Good job Baylor -
Title: Re: Big 12 Blues
Post by: Mr Bread on January 02, 2015, 03:47:42 PM
TCU is easily one of the top three teams in the country. It's going to be laughable listening to ESPN justify the OSU pick after they get blown out tomorrow.

 :sadpeek: