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Title: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: The1BigWillie on December 09, 2014, 02:24:20 PM
Gentlemen... I am a sushi fiend. I can't get enough. I want to make it at home... I know it wont' be cheap but I know I wont have to drop $100 a meal either.  Are there any in home sushi chefs here that can offer any assistance, guidance, and tips?  I've been assembling my tools and goodies today but am stuck on where to get my salmon and tuna.  I'm looking online and possibly at Asian markets here in OP.  Anyone?  :drool:
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Post by: Branson Bound on December 09, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
Sorry, I stick with crappy and catfish. You don't want to eat a raw catfish, let me tell you.
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Post by: CNS on December 09, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
I actually took a sushi class at the Johnson County Culinary Arts Thingy.  Still not great at it.  It is still hard to get the rice quantity right(I always have too much) and then it's hard to slice it without tearing it apart.  The ingredients don't seem too hard to get a hold of.  In fact, the JCCA guys said I could order awesome fish through them as often as weekly at their rate. 

The tips the JCCA guys gave us weren't anything special.  I mean, wrap your bamboo mat in seran wrap, keep a bowl of warm tap water aside at all times and rinse your fingers super often(keeps you from sticking to everything when dealing with rice), wipe knife with wet towel between each slice of the roll, etc.  It all helped, but I am still not awesome at it. 

Also, if you find really good Masago, please let me know where.


Also(shame thread?) I bought this last year and plan to try it in the near future: http://www.sushezi.com/ (http://www.sushezi.com/)
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Post by: CHONGS on December 09, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
I've made sushi (nori rolls) a few times. Do you want to recreate the taste or is it super important to have a roll?
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Post by: CNS on December 09, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
Good question.  I resorted to basically just making lumps of the stuff I wanted without the neat order of a roll.  Also, store bought nori is tougher and harder to bite/chew through than what you get at a restaurant. 
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Post by: puniraptor on December 09, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
i would not try to eat any raw fish from any grocery store.
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Post by: CNS on December 09, 2014, 02:46:02 PM
You can order specific sushi grade fish from a few places around KC.  Most of which, you don't just  :billdance: into the store and buy it, though.  You have to order a head of time usually.  Also, that fish you see in the seafood counter is not sushi grade.
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Post by: CHONGS on December 09, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
Good question.  I resorted to basically just making lumps of the stuff I wanted without the neat order of a roll.  Also, store bought nori is tougher and harder to bite/chew through than what you get at a restaurant. 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/433894-how-to-toast-seaweed/
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: The1BigWillie on December 09, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
I've made sushi (nori rolls) a few times. Do you want to recreate the taste or is it super important to have a roll?

The roll thing isn't super important to me but my girlfriend will want something somewhat visually pleasing.  I could eat it in a wad with my bare hands out of the inside of the sink.  I appreciate all the input so far.  I'm looking at some online options for Tuna and Salmon. I'll keep an eye out for Masago
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Post by: CNS on December 09, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Good question.  I resorted to basically just making lumps of the stuff I wanted without the neat order of a roll.  Also, store bought nori is tougher and harder to bite/chew through than what you get at a restaurant. 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/433894-how-to-toast-seaweed/

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: CHONGS on December 09, 2014, 02:54:02 PM
I like making scattered sushi (chirashizushi), it's a lot less effort, but still has that "sushi" taste.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 09, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Huge waste of time/effort.  Just get takeout
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: CNS on December 09, 2014, 02:58:05 PM
Are you in KC?  If so, I have heard that Hen House will order it in and I bet Trader Joe's would too.
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: The1BigWillie on December 09, 2014, 03:00:13 PM
Are you in KC?  If so, I have heard that Hen House will order it in and I bet Trader Joe's would too.

Yeah I'm in Overland Park.  I'll look into that. 
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Post by: _33 on December 09, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
Add to things not worth the effort thread.
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Post by: Spracne on December 09, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
This is why I make my own Sashimi.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 09, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
I am serious, it is not worth the effort.  It is one of those things that are just much better from the restaurant
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Post by: Gooch on December 09, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Huge waste of time/effort.  Just get takeout
No truer words have ever been spoken.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 09, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
i just go to a like $25 all you can eat place and stuff my face for an hour. then i dont eat sushi for a month... rinse and repeat.

if im hungry for a quick sushi snack, i go to hen house and ask for them to make me a few rolls fresh. they usually do it if you get there before 6:30 or so.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 09, 2014, 03:07:46 PM
i also buy the drunken fish groupon a few times a year. $35 for $60 worth of sushi.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 09, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.
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Post by: pissclams on December 09, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
those plastic bags that you get from the grocery store to take your groceries home in make rolling your sushi rolls infinitely easier
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Post by: The Big Train on December 09, 2014, 11:54:25 PM
i would put like $20(or more) a month into a sushi sickness account so when you run across the wrong fish or a bad roll you dont have any expenses out of pocket  :th_twocents:
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Post by: AbeFroman on December 10, 2014, 12:14:56 AM
Just make crab rangoons, better and easier.
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Post by: bones129 on December 10, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
Sorry, I stick with crappy and catfish. You don't want to eat a raw catfish, let me tell you.

crappie, fwiw. 
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Post by: kim carnes on December 10, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.

where do you go for sushi?
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Post by: Dub on December 10, 2014, 09:27:07 AM
Make sushi about once a week.  You can walk into whole foods and they have sushi grade salmon and tuna typically available daily.  Then go to the sushi stand and ask the people behind it for a big container of sticky rice.  You can also order volcano sauce and a few other things or just make it at home.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2014, 09:28:53 AM
Make sushi about once a week.  You can walk into whole foods and they have sushi grade salmon and tuna typically available daily.  Then go to the sushi stand and ask the people behind it for a big container of sticky rice.  You can also order volcano sauce and a few other things or just make it at home.

That's called getting sushi takeout
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 09:37:49 AM
Sushi rice is avail at most grocery stores.  Then buy a rice maker.  Super cheap and easy.  Rice is the absolute easiest thing to nail down at home when it comes to DIY'ing sushi.
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Post by: pissclams on December 10, 2014, 09:55:46 AM
lulz at using a rice cooker to cook rice.  cns, you really are quite the kitchen wizard. 
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
sushi rice does not come from a rice maker
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Post by: Dub on December 10, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
Make sushi about once a week.  You can walk into whole foods and they have sushi grade salmon and tuna typically available daily.  Then go to the sushi stand and ask the people behind it for a big container of sticky rice.  You can also order volcano sauce and a few other things or just make it at home.

That's called getting sushi takeout

Cause I don't make the rice?
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 10, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Make sushi about once a week.  You can walk into whole foods and they have sushi grade salmon and tuna typically available daily.  Then go to the sushi stand and ask the people behind it for a big container of sticky rice.  You can also order volcano sauce and a few other things or just make it at home.

Nice! Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Making your own Sushi at home....
Post by: The1BigWillie on December 10, 2014, 10:24:03 AM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.

where do you go for sushi?

Izumi, RA, Drunken Fish... mainly Izumi though. 

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Post by: 8manpick on December 10, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.
How many sushi trips is that? Are you eating like 40 pieces a trip?
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Post by: Tobias on December 10, 2014, 11:03:09 AM
are you a recovering addict or something?
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Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 11:04:38 AM
sushi rice does not come from a rice maker
Hmmmm.  Interesting if true.  Pretty sure a couple hundo million asians would disagree, though.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2014, 11:17:50 AM
sushi rice does not come from a rice maker
Hmmmm.  Interesting if true.  Pretty sure a couple hundo million asians would disagree, though.

yes the ancient art of loading up the rice cooker has been taught for generations
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Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 11:37:55 AM
Do you still cook over a fire that came to life through rubbed sticks?
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
Do you still cook over a fire that came to life through rubbed sticks?

Do you think 100 million "asians" use rice cookers for sushi?
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Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
I don't know for sure, but do know that millions own rice cookers.  So, possibly.
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Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 11:49:48 AM
I get this idea from the Japanese lady that taught my sushi class at the JCCA thing who basically said exactly what I posted.
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 10, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
I did a class at an elite sushi restaurant in Denver (gift for GF).  They would order for you and sell you the fish.  I would go to an elite sushi restaurant and ask.

As that sushi restaurant is too far away for us to use for good fish, I like to get supermarket salmon, marinade in teriyaki, and grill.  Serve it on some rice with wasabi and siracha mayo.  Not sushi, but a good substitute.
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Post by: ew2x4 on December 10, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
If you don't use a rice cooker, you're a chump.

wife likes to make sushi a couple times a month. Seems to not take any longer than anything else she makes.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 10, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.
How many sushi trips is that? Are you eating like 40 pieces a trip?

Well it's me and my lady friend.  We go once or twice a week and it runs about $80 per visit after a cocktail and a big beer for me.  We just get a couple rolls and several pieces of salmon/tuna/eel. 
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Post by: 8manpick on December 10, 2014, 03:38:01 PM
I probably spend about $400 a month eating sushi.  I think it's worth it for me to try. I really enjoy it.
How many sushi trips is that? Are you eating like 40 pieces a trip?

Well it's me and my lady friend.  We go once or twice a week and it runs about $80 per visit after a cocktail and a big beer for me.  We just get a couple rolls and several pieces of salmon/tuna/eel.
So $120 on you $120 on the lady and $80 on boozing, $80 on tip. Doesn't seem so bad anymore.
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Post by: steve dave on December 10, 2014, 03:42:53 PM
pro-tip: don't get the rice with the peas and carrots already in it
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Post by: Dub on December 10, 2014, 05:40:36 PM
I did a class at an elite sushi restaurant in Denver (gift for GF).  They would order for you and sell you the fish.  I would go to an elite sushi restaurant and ask.

As that sushi restaurant is too far away for us to use for good fish, I like to get supermarket salmon, marinade in teriyaki, and grill.  Serve it on some rice with wasabi and siracha mayo.  Not sushi, but a good substitute.

Sushi Den?  Also.. Whole Foods sushi grade fish brah.  Go to the fresh aisle, not the pre-packaged.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 10, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Sushi rice is avail at most grocery stores.  Then buy a rice maker.  Super cheap and easy.  Rice is the absolute easiest thing to nail down at home when it comes to DIY'ing sushi.

the sushi apprentices that spend literally YEARS learning to make sushi rice laugh at you.
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Post by: CNS on December 10, 2014, 08:34:51 PM
The habachi guy who spends years learning how to flip his knife and keeps his fingers probably thinks I chop my veggies like a pussy too.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 10, 2014, 08:40:32 PM
 :Take the Bait:

some tips

http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/a-sushi-chef-must-master-rice-and-knives/?_r=0
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 11, 2014, 09:33:55 AM
jesus... I think i'll just go out to eat sushi.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 11, 2014, 09:44:52 AM
If you don't use a rice cooker, you're a chump.

wife likes to make sushi a couple times a month. Seems to not take any longer than anything else she makes.

One time on Iron Chef they had a sushi battle; and they had to make an exception to the 1 hour time limit and let them do their sushi rice ahead of time so I am pretty sure that sushi rice takes a long time.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 11, 2014, 09:57:15 AM
jesus... I think i'll just go out to eat sushi.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE TIME!
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Post by: ew2x4 on December 11, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
If you don't use a rice cooker, you're a chump.

wife likes to make sushi a couple times a month. Seems to not take any longer than anything else she makes.

One time on Iron Chef they had a sushi battle; and they had to make an exception to the 1 hour time limit and let them do their sushi rice ahead of time so I am pretty sure that sushi rice takes a long time.

Yeah, traditional rice cooking for sushi rice is so fickle and time consuming. You can easily make proper sushi rice in a rice cooker. I can't imagine doing it traditionally.
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
I did a class at an elite sushi restaurant in Denver (gift for GF).  They would order for you and sell you the fish.  I would go to an elite sushi restaurant and ask.

As that sushi restaurant is too far away for us to use for good fish, I like to get supermarket salmon, marinade in teriyaki, and grill.  Serve it on some rice with wasabi and siracha mayo.  Not sushi, but a good substitute.

Sushi Den?  Also.. Whole Foods sushi grade fish brah.  Go to the fresh aisle, not the pre-packaged.

Yup - was a fun date night.  Whole foods isn't much closer to me than Sushi Den
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Post by: Dub on December 11, 2014, 12:57:45 PM
I did a class at an elite sushi restaurant in Denver (gift for GF).  They would order for you and sell you the fish.  I would go to an elite sushi restaurant and ask.

As that sushi restaurant is too far away for us to use for good fish, I like to get supermarket salmon, marinade in teriyaki, and grill.  Serve it on some rice with wasabi and siracha mayo.  Not sushi, but a good substitute.

Sushi Den?  Also.. Whole Foods sushi grade fish brah.  Go to the fresh aisle, not the pre-packaged.

Yup - was a fun date night.  Whole foods isn't much closer to me than Sushi Den

We've been talking about doing that, looks fun.  We live on the other side of town now so Sushi Sasa has taken over as our go-to for now.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 17, 2014, 02:36:22 PM
FYI -  Everyone that said... NOT WORTH THE TIME/TROUBLE was RIGHT.  Without a doubt the worst culinary experience of my life.  Hours bent over chopping, slicing, rolling this rough ridin' mess.  I ended up making about 6 rolls and by this time was so worn and and full from eating the ends and my mistakes that the thought and smell of my food made me want to vomit and burn the house down.  NEVER again... holy fuckballs never again.
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Post by: CHONGS on December 17, 2014, 02:41:58 PM
Hey bud, I told you to do scattered sushi.  Takes at most 15 minutes after the rice is cooled.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on December 17, 2014, 02:55:42 PM
Hey bud, I told you to do scattered sushi.  Takes at most 15 minutes after the rice is cooled.

Yeah I had no idea what that was until my first roll became "scattered" sushi because my knife was dry..  haha.. still no... never again.
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Post by: CNS on December 17, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
It is definitely for ppl that enjoy the process of cooking, not just the product.
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Post by: puniraptor on December 18, 2014, 12:44:50 AM
Everyone watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi on Netflix. This assignment is mandatory.
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Post by: stunted on December 18, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Other day had sushi at a famous local place in Taiwan, super fresh salmon and tuna, really good miso soup, and some cabbage dumpling thing. $10

Looking up how they cut tuna on YouTube is interesting. I think American culture makes it so that eating meat we don't think of the food coming from an animal so much, so seeing someone cut tuna up and serve it right away feels unusual.

Also this http://youtu.be/Wb28IYXBi9A
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 18, 2014, 02:21:48 PM
FYI -  Everyone that said... NOT WORTH THE TIME/TROUBLE was RIGHT.  Without a doubt the worst culinary experience of my life.  Hours bent over chopping, slicing, rolling this rough ridin' mess.  I ended up making about 6 rolls and by this time was so worn and and full from eating the ends and my mistakes that the thought and smell of my food made me want to vomit and burn the house down.  NEVER again... holy fuckballs never again.

 :whistle1: