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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Bookcat on December 08, 2014, 01:29:07 PM
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.
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Hmmm interesting question. My gut says coaching is the problem but my head tells me that the problem is coaching. BTW my heart says coaching also.
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.
lack of length, what?
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.
lack of length, what?
Bookcat is a little guy.
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.
lack of length, what?
yea idk about the length but we are definitely soft. got our crap packed 9 times on saturday.
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We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.
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Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...
haven't beaten anyone good....
Long Beach State set the tone.
Why aren't we good?
Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.
i don't even think bookcat is a player
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We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.
We defend like a bunch of idiots. Everybody knows we can't handle ball screens. I don't think have we a shooting problem, I believe we have a getting good looks problem. More players needs to be looking to score. I think he have enough good shooters on the team.
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M-N has been brad essexing the eff out of his posts lately. Really bringing it.
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We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.
even out the variance a little and kstate could easily be 6-2.
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We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.
even out the variance a little and kstate could easily be 6-2.
Thanks sys. A rainbow of hope and happiness passed my eyes. This dogpile on Weber is disheartening. I still have hope the way we played against Arizona will become the norm. Our guys seem to lack confidence. We are missing DJamer's energy. I would like to see more of Malek. We need to get out of this nuetered Cat coma.
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I'm pro-oscar, but the offense against UT is on the staff. Junk defense or no, you know the matchup zone is coming, and you got to have some credible plan of attack. Not whatever that was for the first half plus.
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hopefully in the next few games the ball bounces our way
will be great to roll out a few great wins
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Ken Corbitt @KenCorbitt · 7h 7 hours ago
oscar Weber: We need time for the cake to rise up and get tasty
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It takes time for the chicken nuggets to firm up. You know what happens if you rush it? Runny chicken nuggets.
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Brrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccce
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It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake; you've got to do the cooking by the book.
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some guy on gpc does player ratings. i have no idea what his system is but apparently the reason we suck is Malek:
PLAYER ANALYSIS
Tennessee
Hopper: +8
Nino Williams: +5
Jevon Thomas: +3
Marcus Foster: +3
Thomas Gipson: +3
Tre Harris: +2
Big Meat: -3
Malek Harris: -6
Westicles: -9
Nigel Johnson: -11
Last Three Games
Nino Williams: +20
Thomas Gipson: +11
Hopper: +10
Marcus Foster: +10
Jevon Thomas: 0
Big Meat: -8
Tre Harris: -10
Nigel Johnson: -10
Westicles: -13
Malek Harris: -23
Entire Season
Jevon Thomas:+43
Nino Williams: +34
Hopper: +32
Marcus Foster: +27
Thomas Gipson: +24
Tre Harris: +22
Big Meat: +7
Nigel Johnson: +4
Westicles: +4
Malek Harris: -34
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some guy on gpc does player ratings. i have no idea what his system is but apparently the reason we suck is Malek:
PLAYER ANALYSIS
Tennessee
Hopper: +8
Nino Williams: +5
Jevon Thomas: +3
Marcus Foster: +3
Thomas Gipson: +3
Tre Harris: +2
Big Meat: -3
Malek Harris: -6
Westicles: -9
Nigel Johnson: -11
Last Three Games
Nino Williams: +20
Thomas Gipson: +11
Hopper: +10
Marcus Foster: +10
Jevon Thomas: 0
Big Meat: -8
Tre Harris: -10
Nigel Johnson: -10
Westicles: -13
Malek Harris: -23
Entire Season
Jevon Thomas:+43
Nino Williams: +34
Hopper: +32
Marcus Foster: +27
Thomas Gipson: +24
Tre Harris: +22
Big Meat: +7
Nigel Johnson: +4
Westicles: +4
Malek Harris: -34
Super dumb
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That's just some variation of regular +/-.
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It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake; you've got to do the cooking by the book.
Well now I have a shameful boner
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yikes!!!
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Ken Corbitt @KenCorbitt · 7h 7 hours ago
oscar Weber: We need time for the cake to rise up and get tasty
I hate cake and I hate Head Coach oscar Weber.
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it's tough to argue with some moist cake though
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We have a lot of new guys learning their roles. I think we will gel and get pretty decent, but stumble in big games due to lack of overall leadership. I agree that missing DJamer is a pretty big blow. I still think we make the torn-a-ment.
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It's hard for the cake to raise when Weber forgets to put the baking chowder in.
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We definitely defend like a bunch of cake eaters
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Revised w/ confidential oscar ratings:
PLAYER ANALYSIS
Entire Season
Jevon Thomas: Tasty
Nino Williams: Tasty
Hopper: Tasty
Marcus Foster: Rising
Thomas Gipson: Rising
Tre Harris: Rising
Big Meat: Needs Time
Nigel Johnson: Needs Time
Westicles: Needs Time
Malek Harris: Not cake
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We appear to be gutless and lazy. Perhaps oscar should threaten to burn down a player's house with his family inside and see how that works.
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I think I'm gonna give every game a cake grade now, but working on the scale. Red Velvet is obviously the best and will be the best grade. Whatever cakes are there? Please help with my scale.
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I think I'm gonna give every game a cake grade now, but working on the scale. Red Velvet is obviously the best and will be the best grade. Whatever cakes are there? Please help with my scale.
Too subjective. Carrot cake is tops in my book.
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I think I'm gonna give every game a cake grade now, but working on the scale. Red Velvet is obviously the best and will be the best grade. Whatever cakes are there? Please help with my scale.
Too subjective. Carrot cake is tops in my book.
This guy gets it.
carrot is the KING of cakes
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I suggest a scale looking something like:
Better Than Sex
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
Pound
Fruit
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my instant analysis says we put our eggs in the Hopper basket and the bottom fell out
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I suggest a scale looking something like:
Better Than Sex
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
Pound
Fruit
I will be using this as the scale, without the better than sex, because i dont believe that is an actual cake. Here is to a carrot cake game tonight guys!!!
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my instant analysis says we put our eggs in the Hopper basket and the bottom fell out
Edwards Upside Down Cake!
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Maybe oscar left the cake out in the rain.
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chuckjames this is a link to a better than sex cake recipe if you were curious:
http://tinyurl.com/lahl8ru
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chuckjames this is a link to a better than sex cake recipe if you were curious:
http://tinyurl.com/lahl8ru
dont like anything in that so nope, not using it. Thanks for the scale tho.
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I suggest a scale looking something like:
Better Than Sex
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
Pound
Fruit
Eff your cake scale; any cake scale without German Chocolate Cake W/ Butter Cream Frosting doesn't count for crap.
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Also where's the White Cake!!! :impatient:
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I think Urinal should be below Fruit.
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I suggest a scale looking something like:
Better Than Sex
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
Pound
Fruit
Eff your cake scale; any cake scale without German Chocolate Cake W/ Butter Cream Frosting doesn't count for crap.
I left off my favorite too: Poke cake with Strawberry Jello and Cream Cheese Frosting. I tried to eliminate things that were at the same level. Are there like 300 cakes that could go in this scale? Probably. Can we use all of them? No.
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I think Urinal should be below Fruit.
Piss on that! We're not talking squawk cake here. :nono:
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Revised Cake ranking system:
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
German Chocolate
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
White
Pound
Fruit
Urinal
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I think Urinal should be below Fruit.
Piss on that! We're not talking squawk cake here. :nono:
ureal jerk, ya know it?
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I suggest a scale looking something like:
Better Than Sex
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
Pound
Fruit
Eff your cake scale; any cake scale without German Chocolate Cake W/ Butter Cream Frosting doesn't count for crap.
I left off my favorite too: Poke cake with Strawberry Jello and Cream Cheese Frosting. I tried to eliminate things that were at the same level. Are there like 300 cakes that could go in this scale? Probably. Can we use all of them? No.
And why not??? Is it because you're lazy like our players. :surprised:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes
Thanks Chingon; now that you gave DC the tools, do you think DC will put them to good use.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes
That list has ~160 cakes. So my 300 predicto was a slight overestimate.
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Revised Cake ranking system:
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
Ice Cream
German Chocolate
Wedding
Pineapple Upside Down
Angel Food
White
Pound
Fruit
Urinal
Can we take out Pineapple Upside Down cake?
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I think a proper cake scale should stay at a ten item list. So rating a performance by a player, team, or coach from Carrot - Urinal (10-1).
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I think a proper cake scale should stay at a ten item list. So rating a performance by a player, team, or coach from Carrot - Urinal (10-1).
so we need to remove one? i vote upside down. also making this a thread of its own.
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Cake scale proposal #3
Carrot
Red Velvet
Chocolate Molten
German Chocolate
Cheesecake
Tiramisu
White
Coconut
Fruit
Urinal
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pie is better than cake.
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If another dumbass calls us "lazy" I'm going to go to their house and punch their fat faces in front of their fat little girlfriends
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pie is better than cake.
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Hard to even watch the game. We are awful.
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my instant analysis says we put our eggs in the Hopper basket and the bottom fell out
Can't make cake without breaking a few eggs.
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Cobbler?
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Cobbler?
Why, sir, cobble You!
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I don't understand why we played right into Bradley's terrible slow pace the entire first half. This team has to play at a higher tempo and the 2nd half is showing that.
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curtis bringing the zeal on twitter...
?@curtiskitchen
There are some guys in #kstate MBB uniforms straight stealing scholarship money right now.
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Well, I guess the problem is the higher the pace, the worse our defense gets. At least its more entertaining to watch.
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I think it's pretty obvious why KSU hoops is this bad. oscar Weber has only recruited one guy who can hit a jump shot in three years (not counting Tre Harris since he isn't athletic enough to be on the court for more than a minute or two at a time). The other factor is that oscar seems to recruit pussies. Seriously, not one of his recruits seems to have any fire whatsoever. It's rough ridin' disgusting.
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I think it's pretty obvious why KSU hoops is this bad. oscar Weber has only recruited one guy who can hit a jump shot in three years (not counting Tre Harris since he isn't athletic enough to be on the court for more than a minute or two at a time). The other factor is that oscar seems to recruit pussies. Seriously, not one of his recruits seems to have any fire whatsoever. It's rough ridin' disgusting.
i cannot stop laughing at this post for some reason
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I think it's pretty obvious why KSU hoops is this bad. oscar Weber has only recruited one guy who can hit a jump shot in three years (not counting Tre Harris since he isn't athletic enough to be on the court for more than a minute or two at a time). The other factor is that oscar seems to recruit pussies. Seriously, not one of his recruits seems to have any fire whatsoever. It's rough ridin' disgusting.
i cannot stop laughing at this post for some reason
Even if you're laughing at me, I'm just glad that somebody is laughing, because all I can do is :bawl: What did we do to deserve oscar? If I had one question for God, that would be the one, what the eff did we do to deserve that lizard-lipped loser?
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oscar can get mumped. His pussey attitude only took a little bit to finally rub off on all of our players
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oscar can get mumped. His pussey attitude only took a little bit to finally rub off on all of our players
I remember after the Omaha game, in a quick on the court post-game, he avoided some question by saying "Well, i'm just preparing for TN!" in some like half-jokey half-worried kinda way. FP.
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What a piece of crap, err cake, thread. :/
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Has one player on our team improved from last year? They all look worse to me.
Foster = worse
Gipson = worse
Westicles = lmao worse
I could go right down the line.
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Foster is not worse
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Jevon, nigel, and nino are not worse
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Has one player on our team improved from last year? They all look worse to me.
Foster = worse
Gipson = worse
Westicles = lmao worse
I could go right down the line.
how is foster worse? he has to force so much crap because the rest of the team is rough ridin' horrible. i mean nino rough ridin' williams(who i adore but he isnt that good) is our second best player
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they just all stayed the same then and we can't score more than 15 points a half, interesting.
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I think it is dawning on Currie what he got into.
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they just all stayed the same then and we can't score more than 15 points a half, interesting.
i never said the other players havent gotten worse but to think foster has is pretty silly
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Team chemistry definitely is worse. Everyone seems to be playing for themselves. Gipson has to get more touches a game. I am bummed out about the Bradley game. We may be the worst Big12 team right now.
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jetlag is killing this team
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Waaaay to much hanging loose
:handshakingsidetosidethingy:
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jetlag is killing this team
a lot of adversity to overcome, no doubt
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I think it is dawning on Currie what he got into.
Are we assuming, or did he say something?
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oscar said we are still tired from the Maui trip....still trying to get our legs under us and stuff.
Also, he reminded us that we almost lost to South Dakota last year, but then everything turned out great!
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oscar said we are still tired from the Maui trip....still trying to get our legs under us and stuff.
Also, he reminded us that we almost lost to South Dakota last year, but then everything turned out great!
legs? i mean did these guys do any kind of off season conditioning? basically oscar is admitting to being a shitty coach considering he knew the schedule
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do you guys think a cake rises in one day or week? no! the best cakes take months before they are tasty enough.
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You know what else is called cakes? butt cheeks
You know causes cakes to rise? heat
You know what causes butt cheeks to get heated? hotseats
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at one point in time Malek and Nino were confused who was playing which position while running some offense. I actually heard oscar scream angrily
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#1 Big-Time oscar Fan here.
I honestly don't believe a team coached by oscar and Chris is capable of playing as badly as this team is. This is all very confusing for me.
:confused:
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they have _FAN feeling down. let that sink in for a minute
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Yes. I havent seen that in my time BBS' n.
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The lights are still on though.
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this team would be a shitload better had old spice not gotten hurt