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Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« on: December 08, 2014, 01:29:07 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?


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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 01:32:24 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?

Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 01:40:07 PM »
Hmmm interesting question.  My gut says coaching is the problem but my head tells me that the problem is coaching.  BTW my heart says coaching also.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 01:51:06 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?

Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.

lack of length, what?


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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 01:56:42 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?

Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.

lack of length, what?

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 01:58:38 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?

Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.

lack of length, what?

yea idk about the length but we are definitely soft.  got our crap packed 9 times on saturday. 

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2014, 02:16:20 PM »
We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 02:26:59 PM »
Really thought we'd be solid after boat racing the exhibs and scoring a crapton of points...

haven't beaten anyone good....

Long Beach State set the tone.

Why aren't we good?

Poorly coached team, I think your lack of length really hurts us defensively. A lot of our players are cowards and don't want to be scorers when facing a physical defense.

i don't even think bookcat is a player

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 02:29:32 PM »
We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.
We defend like a bunch of idiots. Everybody knows we can't handle ball screens. I don't think have we a shooting problem, I believe we have a getting good looks problem. More players needs to be looking to score. I think he have enough good shooters on the team.
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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 02:33:16 PM »
M-N has been brad essexing the eff out of his posts lately.  Really bringing it. 
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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2014, 05:04:44 PM »
We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.

even out the variance a little and kstate could easily be 6-2.
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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 05:56:56 PM »
We don't defend. Rebounding and forcing TOs is good enough, but this is oscar's worst eFG% defensive team (so far) by a long ways. And to top it off, just like last year's team, we foul like crazy and send people to the FT line a ton. Until either one (or both) of those get at least slightly corrected this team will struggle. Also, we are very up and down shooting and if we aren't going to defend we better simply out shoot and out score people and our offense isn't good enough to do that.

even out the variance a little and kstate could easily be 6-2.
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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2014, 06:14:32 PM »
I'm pro-oscar, but the offense against UT is on the staff. Junk defense or no, you know the matchup zone is coming, and you got to have some credible plan of attack.  Not whatever that was for the first half plus.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2014, 06:25:24 PM »
hopefully in the next few games the ball bounces our way

will be great to roll out a few great wins


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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 06:27:40 PM »
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oscar Weber: We need time for the cake to rise up and get tasty

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 06:32:42 PM »
It takes time for the chicken nuggets to firm up.  You know what happens if you rush it?  Runny chicken nuggets.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 06:34:20 PM »
Brrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccce
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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2014, 06:43:03 PM »
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake; you've got to do the cooking by the book.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 06:50:16 PM »
some guy on gpc does player ratings. i have no idea what his system is but apparently the reason we suck is Malek:

PLAYER ANALYSIS
Tennessee
Hopper: +8
Nino Williams: +5
Jevon Thomas: +3
Marcus Foster: +3
Thomas Gipson: +3
Tre Harris: +2
Big Meat: -3
Malek Harris: -6
Westicles: -9
Nigel Johnson: -11

Last Three Games
Nino Williams: +20
Thomas Gipson: +11
Hopper: +10
Marcus Foster: +10
Jevon Thomas: 0
Big Meat: -8
Tre Harris: -10
Nigel Johnson: -10
Westicles: -13
Malek Harris: -23

Entire Season
Jevon Thomas:+43
Nino Williams: +34
Hopper: +32
Marcus Foster: +27
Thomas Gipson: +24
Tre Harris: +22
Big Meat: +7
Nigel Johnson: +4
Westicles: +4
Malek Harris: -34

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 08:21:54 PM »
some guy on gpc does player ratings. i have no idea what his system is but apparently the reason we suck is Malek:

PLAYER ANALYSIS
Tennessee
Hopper: +8
Nino Williams: +5
Jevon Thomas: +3
Marcus Foster: +3
Thomas Gipson: +3
Tre Harris: +2
Big Meat: -3
Malek Harris: -6
Westicles: -9
Nigel Johnson: -11

Last Three Games
Nino Williams: +20
Thomas Gipson: +11
Hopper: +10
Marcus Foster: +10
Jevon Thomas: 0
Big Meat: -8
Tre Harris: -10
Nigel Johnson: -10
Westicles: -13
Malek Harris: -23

Entire Season
Jevon Thomas:+43
Nino Williams: +34
Hopper: +32
Marcus Foster: +27
Thomas Gipson: +24
Tre Harris: +22
Big Meat: +7
Nigel Johnson: +4
Westicles: +4
Malek Harris: -34
Super dumb

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 08:33:47 PM »
That's just some variation of regular +/-.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 11:22:20 PM »
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake; you've got to do the cooking by the book.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2014, 11:28:39 PM »
yikes!!!

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 12:35:18 AM »
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Ken Corbitt @KenCorbitt  ·  7h 7 hours ago
oscar Weber: We need time for the cake to rise up and get tasty
I hate cake and I hate Head Coach oscar Weber.

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Re: Why is KSU hoops this bad?
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2014, 08:29:44 AM »
it's tough to argue with some moist cake though


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