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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2014, 03:27:13 PM
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This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.
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Also lol at the concussion protocol in 2001, Nate Hybl was knocked stupid at least twice in this game.
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Also lol at the concussion protocol in 2001, Nate Hybl was knocked stupid at least twice in this game.
No kidding. Phil Bennett's patented all-out blitz left Hybl sketti-brained.
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I miss Ell
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I miss Ell
Yeah
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This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.
2001 offense had some major issues staying on the field...hung an inexperience defense out to dry. I think someone had fumblitis too if I recall.
I do remember the Cats blew a 17 point lead at home to Texas A&M and lost. They just had a knack for screwing up.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?
Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...
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This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.
Ell had ridiculous talent and would make mistakes that you would expect from a young player in about any sport that knows he has the talent. You could see the greatness and also the stupid mistakes. I think Sams had some of that ability which is why I was so sad to see him go. Rodriguez in basketball too.
Trevor Knight is the same way. I thought OU was overrated this year because although he is very talented, he just hasn't put it all together yet.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?
Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...
That wildcat that got called for the penalty is now the head football coach at Derby High School.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?
Well, the Buff game was interesting because as soon as we got any offense going...they flagged a Wildcat for taunting simply for signaling a first down. Killed the drive, we punted and they scored on the next drive. No answer for Chris Brown. That guy won them a Big XII Title. '01 sucked..weird year in the Big XII...
That wildcat that got called for the penalty is now the head football coach at Derby High School.
His dad owes Pete a new grill lid too.
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Yeah, the 22 second ball spot, coming off the tipped pass PI call in the 00 Pepper.
Really could have used some Pollard in the pressers back then.
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Yeah, the 22 second ball spot, coming off the tipped pass PI call in the 00 Pepper.
Really could have used some Pollard in the pressers back then.
We didn't go Pollard but we submitted a complaint. I believe the B12 came back and said 22 secs is pretty standard, STFU.
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Very K-State vs. good teams game. Get down after a wretched, error-filled start, make enough exciting plays to torture fans into continuing to watch while never really having a shot to win.
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17 penalties for 139 yards
Also this game had the old timing rules when the referee decided when to start the play clock. Hybl got sacked forcing a 4th and long with 59 seconds left, it took the referee 22 seconds to start the play clock.
Wow. Its all coming back to me. We got major screwed on that down. ...lost by 1. Refs had it in for us that year.
IIRC the same thing with the play clock happened later that season as well, Colorado maybe?
Happened at the end of '04 KU I know.
As far as the 2001 team not playing to their talent, the Big XII was really good that year, and the CU and A&M games we had horrible turnover after horrible turnover.
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This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.
Man, just looked at the roster from that year. That backfield :surprised:
Scobey, Roberson, Rock Cartright, Joe Hall, Darren Sproles
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This game is on ESPN Classic right now and holy crap, I forgot just how good Ell was. I have no idea why/how this 2001 team turned out so garbagey, there's do much talent on the field.
Man, just looked at the roster from that year. That backfield :surprised:
Scobey, Roberson, Rock Cartright, Joe Hall, Darren Sproles
:love:
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
USC was a huge pud
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
They just gave up a few monster plays in the UT and CU games, and it cost them.
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Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option
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Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option
Marc Dunn can get mumped. I can't think of a worse QB in the Snyder era.
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Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option
Marc Dunn can get mumped. I can't think of a worse QB in the Snyder era.
carson coffman, grant Gregory, Webb, Meier, etc.
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Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option
Marc Dunn can get mumped. I can't think of a worse QB in the Snyder era.
carson coffman, grant Gregory, Webb, Meier, etc.
Watch it. You're on thin ice right now.
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Lots of line injuries. And Marc Dunn running speed option
Marc Dunn can get mumped. I can't think of a worse QB in the Snyder era.
carson coffman, grant Gregory, Webb, Meier, etc.
Watch it. You're on thin ice right now.
:surprised:
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Our QB play was atrocious in '01. Ell was very good in '02 and '03, but outside of his stellar OU game (which included that pitch to nobody), he wasn't very good.
Our O-Line play was pathetic that year too. But yeah, E3 had serious growing pains in '01.
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it's fun to take a stroll down memory lane.
that is, until i get to '98 and '12 and then i just, i can't even...
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
They just gave up a few monster plays in the UT and CU games, and it cost them.
Missed a few field goals, too. It's hard to win with poor special teams.
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That's the beauty of Bill...
He knew Ell sucked in '01...but could see his potential. Was willing to sacrfiice '01 to bring us the #1 OU stomp in 2003. Brilliant.
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That fake punt for a TD was pretty huge. Ricky Lloyd & Brandon Clark went off, not so much the rest of the year
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
Kill yourself :facepalm:
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
USC was a huge pud
its steffy wintz, just blast past her posts
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
Kill yourself :facepalm:
Yeah, Musburger was a god back then
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
Kill yourself :facepalm:
Yeah, Musburger was a god back then
He's still amazing. It's a shame what ESPN has relegated him to.
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Hey guys. This was great. Wish I could find a usuable version of the Mus call.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5XOsJR1SAc
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
Kill yourself :facepalm:
Yeah, Musburger was a god back then
When Ell broke like 5 tackles on a TD run in this game Mus said, "He's a tough hombre..." I didn't know until later, because I was at the game. It was great tho.
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Terrance Newman with the INT from Saleena KS. Mussberger was horrible even back then, I really want to turn the audio off.
Kill yourself :facepalm:
Yeah, Musburger was a god back then
He's still amazing. It's a shame what ESPN has relegated him to.
Musburger & Herbstreit were BITB on the 7 pm ABC games. I actually enjoy Palmer but there haven't been many interesting SEC Network games, Brent is at point in his career where he doesn't have to fake enthusiasm for dog poop games.
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2011 OU-KSU is on espn classic at noon, for some stupid reason
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2005 KSU @ Oklahoma - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252740201
So many talking points within the ESPN recap
-KSU punts without a punter on the field
-Jordy with a 73 yd TD
-Allen Webb throws TD to Norwood
-oh and suicide bomber
-oh and Thomas Clayton held out of game due to punching a KSU parking ticket nazi
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2005 KSU @ Oklahoma - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252740201
So many talking points within the ESPN recap
-KSU punts without a punter on the field
-Jordy with a 73 yd TD
-Allen Webb throws TD to Norwood
-oh and suicide bomber
-oh and Thomas Clayton held out of game due to punching a KSU parking ticket nazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTQS_k4XiQ
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2011 OU-KSU is on espn classic at noon, for some stupid reason
Yeah, eff ESPN for that and they nerve to label the game a "Gridiron Classic."
Next week they're replaying the 2006 UT vs. KSU game. I love that they play that game but it seems to be the only KSU UT game they replay. Frankly I'm partial to the '99 & '07 games.
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2011 OU-KSU is on espn classic at noon, for some stupid reason
If you're going to stretch that far for a OU-KSU classic might as well play the '04 game
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28-28 was great
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Back to the '01 game.....it seems like we got the ball back around midfield with maybe 7 seconds left or so? One option would have been to run a quick out to get close enough for a semi long field goal attempt with no time left. But since our kicking game sucked that year we had to attempt a lame Hail Mary instead. Am I remembering this right?
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Offensive line was young, tho. Wasn't it Lecky's freshman year and he started. I watched the Nebraska game on YouTube from the next year. rough ridin' awesome team. It really could have won the NC with some breaks.
Our 2002 team would be favored head to head against any other Cat team. Loaded with talent.
Pud non-conference schedule cost us that year; weren't quite ready for Big 12 play.
They just gave up a few monster plays in the UT and CU games, and it cost them.
'02 Colorado was one of the most disappointing regular season losses of all time. The '03 Marshall-Okie St.-UT trio kind of blend together, but the '02 team was actually significantly better than that '03 team imo. The '03 team may have won the Dr. Pepper, but that '02 team was special.
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Back to the '01 game.....it seems like we got the ball back around midfield with maybe 7 seconds left or so? One option would have been to run a quick out to get close enough for a semi long field goal attempt with no time left. But since our kicking game sucked that year we had to attempt a lame Hail Mary instead. Am I remembering this right?
Yeah that's pretty much it. Kicking issues hasn't reared its head yet though, I think more of the issue was that I'm not sure a young Ell was trusted to execute that play. We were still on our side of the 50 so that needed to be about a 20 yard play.
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CAS and I regularly talk about that Ricky Lloyd TD. A true Wildcat Classic Play, if there ever was one.