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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: steve dave on September 30, 2014, 07:26:50 AM
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so sddad got like a half million dollar check from the gov. because he didn't sell his cows when the drought was bad and everyone was selling their cows. like, he isn't selling his cows for that, he still gets to keep them, he didn't lose anything and now he gets this huge check for just being a cow farmer who arbitrarily chose not to sell them all a year or two ago. I'm probably missing some of the details to this money exchange but I think I have the important parts correct. so, in summary, what in the crap are we doing giving all our cow farmers all this money? like, poor people need money and they didn't sell any cows either.
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He should sell all his cows and other farm stuff and retire with that check
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Or maybe never sell the cows so he can keep getting $500k checks in perpetuity
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Government waste. Dumb crap like this is the reason so many people think our government is a joke.
Gonna win 'em all!
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He should sell all his cows and other farm stuff and retire with that check
he's just 60 and he wouldn't know what to do with himself for the rest of his life. farmers don't ever quit farming I think. at least I have never heard of one quitting.
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He should sell all his cows and other farm stuff and retire with that check
he's just 60 and he wouldn't know what to do with himself for the rest of his life. farmers don't ever quit farming I think. at least I have never heard of one quitting.
Okay, go with my second reply then. Can cows live like 30 years if they don't get eaten?
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He should sell all his cows and other farm stuff and retire with that check
he's just 60 and he wouldn't know what to do with himself for the rest of his life. farmers don't ever quit farming I think. at least I have never heard of one quitting.
Okay, go with my second reply then. Can cows live like 30 years if they don't get eaten?
I have no idea. I wasn't a very good cow farmer's son.
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No. A 15 year old cow is very old. Probably selling most of his cows by age 8.
Gonna win 'em all!
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these cows are many hours from rick daris, can likely live forever
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
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I've had checks beforre. If he takes the check to a bank, they will givd him money for it.
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What is the check to money ratio? I mean, I have access to several banks.
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
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This is what happens when retards start threads.
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:'bye cruel world:
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Classic case of insurance fraud
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
I call him a cow farmer because it makes him chuckle. "how's the cow farm pops?" "cattle...ranch...fine"
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
I have no idea how it was figured but he has, like, thousands of cows. all black ones. used to have some white ones and red ones when I was a kid but apparently they aren't cool anymore.
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
I have no idea how it was figured but he has, like, thousands of cows. all black ones. used to have some white ones and red ones when I was a kid but apparently they aren't cool anymore.
I think the fast food places all want to say they serve black angus now.
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The fact that anyone believes a word of this story, is a stunning indictment of how ignorant and misinformed our society truly is.
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he also has zero horses. apparently you can do cow farming with no horses or horse riders working for you. he even calls his employees cowboys but they don't have horses. just trucks and ATVs and stuff. he will sometimes hire actual cowboys to do stuff but it's usually only once a year for a big round up deal. the ATV cowboys do like a thousand percent more roundup'ing than the horse guys so I think it's just for show. I was an ATV cowboy as a kid but one time a horse cowboy had to lasso my handlebars and pull me out of a creek when I got stuck.
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this thread :love:
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kansas farmers suck more teet than pretty much anyone in the world.
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kansas farmers suck more teet than pretty much anyone in the world.
fact
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I bet I could get a bunch of white cows super cheap since they aren't cool anymore.
1. cheap white cows
2. pasture only
3. never sell
4. profit
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I bet I could get a bunch of white cows super cheap since they aren't cool anymore.
1. cheap white cows
2. pasture only
3. never sell
4. profit
It's worth a shot.
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I think I could easily get access to as many as 25 acres right now. How many white cows can I put on something like that? 100? 200? More?
It has really good hay growth and is on a sunny hillside just west of Bonner Springs A.K.A. the most desired cow farm grazing land known to man, if that informs the answer.
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I think I could easily get access to as many as 25 acres right now. How many white cows can I put on something like that? 100? 200? More?
It has really good hay growth and is on a sunny hillside just west of Bonner Springs A.K.A. the most desired cow farm grazing land known to man, if that informs the answer.
About 20, probably. You need to think much bigger. You government check is going to be pretty small otherwise.
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the more cows the better I think. also the grass being good is actually bad for you getting money according to how sddad was explaining this (I was fading in and out of paying attention so maybe this is not as critical as it sounded). like, there was some multiplier of cows and how bad the grass or drought was or something and then also some bonus thing for cows that actually died and you get that paper.
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Wait, so you have to starve a cow to death to get the money? :sdeek:
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also additional corporations and ownership interests and junk = more paper. if you have some cows and then your son has some cows and then your other son has some cows and your dad has some cows and then you have some cows with different corporations with your buds and the grass all sucks you get more paper. the more confusing your setup of cows is the more you get from what I understood. does this sound correct to cow people itt?
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Wait, so you have to starve a cow to death to get the money? :sdeek:
no, I don't think any of sddad's cows starved to death. some probably died from other stuff though. which is essentially starving to death.
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Would poaching count? :dunno:
Hypothetically?
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Would poaching count? :dunno:
I don't see why not
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Well, well, well...
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should involve Deez Nuts somehow in your cow farming follies
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sd, keep explaining stuff. Don't stop.
Gonna win 'em all!
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I'm kind of surprised that cattle rustlin' hasn't made a comeback in the Obama economy, really. Sounds easier than cattle growin'.
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Would anyone be interested in a side of beef, or twenty, in the next year or so?
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Guys my buddy's bird dog recently climbed INSIDE a dead cow we came across. rough ridin' inside it! It was que disgusting. :Yuck:
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I'm kind of surprised that cattle rustlin' hasn't made a comeback in the Obama economy, really. Sounds easier than cattle growin'.
Meade is good for one HS kid stealing like 3 cows and taking them to Beaver, OK trying to sell them at the cow sale about once every 3 years. always pretty lol.
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Guys my buddy's bird dog recently climbed INSIDE a dead cow we came across. rough ridin' inside it! It was que disgusting. :Yuck:
you're thinking of luke skywalker
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Guys my buddy's bird dog recently climbed INSIDE a dead cow we came across. rough ridin' inside it! It was que disgusting. :Yuck:
That dog's not right.
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I have a hunch some important details are missing. Having said that, the ranching industry is a very powerful industry that definitely finds/places allies in congress. Waste is never an "accident" or "mindless mistake".
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Yes, you don't want to tangle with Big Cow. They have deep leather pockets.
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Yes, you don't want to tangle with Big Cow. They have deep leather pockets.
big cow is becoming big gas from what I also understand from sddad. like he has gas wells all over his land and he wants them to come shazbot! the crap out of it and get more gas but they haven't and I think maybe the ground isn't good for fracking but never give up hope that they shazbot! the living crap out of your land and you get that paper is apparently his motto.
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also big wind energy. his ideal setup is a wasteland of fracked land filled with gas wells and then covered up with wind turbines and black cows. that's when you've made it in this crazy thing we call life.
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also big wind energy. his ideal setup is a wasteland of fracked land filled with gas wells and then covered up with wind turbines and black cows. that's when you've made it in this crazy thing we call life.
Your dad sounds like a god damned genius. Talk about paradise.
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also big wind energy. his ideal setup is a wasteland of fracked land filled with gas wells and then covered up with wind turbines and black cows. that's when you've made it in this crazy thing we call life.
Self feeding cycle. Windmills screw up air temp around them, fracking waste screws up soil, therefore no good grass. Multiple Corps to run the wind, gas, fracking, cows, etc through to complicate the crap out of everything. Huge paycheck for bad grass, bad cows, and complicated set up.
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Who in the government do you tell that you have cows? Do they come out and check to see if you're lying? I could see myself having zero cows and telling the government that I have 10,000 cows. 10,000 cows in a dirt field. No grass. How much money could I get for that?
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Who in the government do you tell that you have cows? Do they come out and check to see if you're lying? I could see myself having zero cows and telling the government that I have 10,000 cows. 10,000 cows in a dirt field. No grass. How much money could I get for that?
I think they have audits.
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Keep your government registry off my cows
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If they come to check on my cows, I will tell them that the cows are out grazing and suggest that they try again later.
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sd, explain how the government knows how many cows your dad has.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Is there a title involved?
Gonna win 'em all!
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I think maybe he tells them and then they can come check it out to see if everything is on the up and up. but they can't afford to send anyone to check because they are broke from writing 6/7 figure checks to everyone. this part is entirely speculation because I have no idea and he didn't tell me.
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What if I store cows in a warehouse. There's no grass there, just concrete. I'll hang a gone fishing sign on the door. Come back later, Obummer.
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also we have tons of CRP (this land that they gov. writes you a check for and you don't do anything with it) and all of our cows get to eat it because of drought
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
I call him a cow farmer because it makes him chuckle. "how's the cow farm pops?" "cattle...ranch...fine"
It kinda sucks you had to explain that. I enjoyed you saying cow farmer.
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
I call him a cow farmer because it makes him chuckle. "how's the cow farm pops?" "cattle...ranch...fine"
It kinda sucks you had to explain that. I enjoyed you saying cow farmer.
I know. my worsts posts are when I breakdown and lower myself to respond to shitty posts. I will get better.
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
I call him a cow farmer because it makes him chuckle. "how's the cow farm pops?" "cattle...ranch...fine"
It kinda sucks you had to explain that. I enjoyed you saying cow farmer.
I know. my worsts posts are when I breakdown and lower myself to respond to shitty posts. I will get better.
no, the depiction of your pops' response was worth it and made the thread better. i could almost feel the sigh.
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I'm kind of surprised that cattle rustlin' hasn't made a comeback in the Obama economy, really. Sounds easier than cattle growin'.
Meade is good for one HS kid stealing like 3 cows and taking them to Beaver, OK trying to sell them at the cow sale about once every 3 years. always pretty lol.
what an adorable small town midwesterny heist to pull off.
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sddad better buy like two dozen King Ranch's or he's going to have to pay taxes on that. I love the end of the fiscal year go nuts buying crap stuff that farmers do. Also, I could be mistaken, but aren't cattle folks called ranchers, and row crop folks farmers? Just a hunch.
I call him a cow farmer because it makes him chuckle. "how's the cow farm pops?" "cattle...ranch...fine"
It kinda sucks you had to explain that. I enjoyed you saying cow farmer.
I know. my worsts posts are when I breakdown and lower myself to respond to shitty posts. I will get better.
no, the depiction of your pops' response was worth it and made the thread better. i could almost feel the sigh.
yeah. pretty adorable father-son exchange there.
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
You can also get paid for not doing anything with those acres.
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
You can also get paid for not doing anything with those acres.
Yeah. Just have to burn them once per year. That is probably a better deal for you than trying to run a 25 acre ranch.
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
You can also get paid for not doing anything with those acres.
Not my acres, but I could easily get use of them for basically nothing.
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I'm kind of surprised that cattle rustlin' hasn't made a comeback in the Obama economy, really. Sounds easier than cattle growin'.
Meade is good for one HS kid stealing like 3 cows and taking them to Beaver, OK trying to sell them at the cow sale about once every 3 years. always pretty lol.
what an adorable small town midwesterny heist to pull off.
yes, Shades of Gray that make up the palette of the heartland
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
You can also get paid for not doing anything with those acres.
Not my acres, but I could easily get use of them for basically nothing.
You had better make sure he isn't already being paid to do nothing with the land. You wouldn't want to screw his payment up by grazing cattle on it.
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What is the dollar to cow ratio? I mean, I have access to several acres that aren't doing anything right now.
You can also get paid for not doing anything with those acres.
Not my acres, but I could easily get use of them for basically nothing.
You had better make sure he isn't already being paid to do nothing with the land. You wouldn't want to screw his payment up by grazing cattle on it.
Audit me, Bro!
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Last night a friend of my who has show cattle said he plays sports talk radio to his cows to help them to learn to be calm when hearing human voices. This way they will not go wild in the show ring. He said they like to listen to K State sports. He did not say what they would do if they listened to KU sports; IMO likely quick giving milk or go sterile. If a KU cow touched the nose of KSU cow, the KSU cow would probably die of hoof and mouth disease. Not sure if there are KU bulls.
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That is some a+ cow farm related ku smack talk
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Ain't no bulls!
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Ain't no bulls!
damn, I'm bummed a sheep joke wasn't available!
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Ain't no bulls!
damn, I'm bummed a sheep joke wasn't available!
i know, right?
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Why settle for semicolons when more appropriate punctuations are available?
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You know, I take that back. "Ain't no bulls" was superior to anything.
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You know, I take that back. "Ain't no bulls" was superior to anything.
Not anymore. We ditched Tharpe.
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it makes me crazy mad when sd talks about his family's ranch.
sd, does your father's ranch include leases on federal land?
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Wow, great thread SD. Just reinforces how rich Ima be once I inherit 1/9 of my grandparents farm land in western KS....I'm already scheming up ways to screw my siblings out of their share so I can get ONE THIRD of the land....Guess what...I'm the oldest male sibling....which means I do all the will/inheriting stuff when my amazing parents pass because you know, tradition.
1. Screw siblings out of their share(Assuming my uncle doesn't screw my dad out of his share)
2. Buy a F-150 pickup, maybe F-250?
3. Rent the land out for a set fee? Maybe a 1/3 the profit?
4. Either way get a phat check from Chelsea Clinton or Sasha Obama.
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Wow, great thread SD. Just reinforces how rich Ima be once I inherit 1/9 of my grandparents farm land in western KS....I'm already scheming up ways to screw my siblings out of their share so I can get ONE THIRD of the land....Guess what...I'm the oldest male sibling....which means I do all the will/inheriting stuff when my amazing parents pass because you know, tradition.
1. Screw siblings out of their share(Assuming my uncle doesn't screw my dad out of his share)
2. Buy a F-150 pickup, maybe F-250?
3. Rent the land out for a set fee? Maybe a 1/3 the profit?
4. Either way get a phat check from Chelsea Clinton or Sasha Obama.
5. Just realized I saw some pheasant on the land last thanksgiving. Can totally make some bling by selling some hunting leases.
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it makes me crazy mad when sd talks about his family's ranch.
sd, does your father's ranch include leases on federal land?
No, I don't think there is even any federal land in SW ks
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it makes me crazy mad when sd talks about his family's ranch.
sd, does your father's ranch include leases on federal land?
No, I don't think there is even any federal land in SW ks
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/psicc/about-forest/districts/?cid=fsm9_032733
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Well, there you go sys. Go farm that.
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I'll bet sd already tipped off sadad about the federal land. You're too late sys.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Well, there you go sys. Go farm that.
Can't farm the grasslands. Can put a crap ton of cows on them, though.
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Speaking of bullshit, the National Forests and National Grasslands are managed by the rough ridin' Department of Agriculture. How bouts fox watching the hen house, hmmmm?! :curse:
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How rough ridin' obtuse do you have to be, to be from Southwest kansas and not know what the Cimarron grass lands are?
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Wow, great thread SD. Just reinforces how rich Ima be once I inherit 1/9 of my grandparents farm land in western KS....I'm already scheming up ways to screw my siblings out of their share so I can get ONE THIRD of the land....Guess what...I'm the oldest male sibling....which means I do all the will/inheriting stuff when my amazing parents pass because you know, tradition.
1. Screw siblings out of their share(Assuming my uncle doesn't screw my dad out of his share)
2. Buy a F-150 pickup, maybe F-250?
3. Rent the land out for a set fee? Maybe a 1/3 the profit?
4. Either way get a phat check from Chelsea Clinton or Sasha Obama.
3. Cash rent, that way when they take a dive, you'll still see $
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No.
well then, i don't know how your father is getting his big ag welfare payday. try to find out and report back here, please.
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like, don't bother asking how it works and then trying to pay attention during the details. just get the name of the program and post it here so i can google it.
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Ben Ji, get w bass boat too
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like, don't bother asking how it works and then trying to pay attention during the details. just get the name of the program and post it here so i can google it.
OK!
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How rough ridin' obtuse do you have to be, to be from Southwest kansas and not know what the Cimarron grass lands are?
I still don't know what they are! (Outside of being grassland which I assume are near Cimmaron which we (Meade studs) coincidentally make a habit of beating the crap out of in 2A sports)
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How rough ridin' obtuse do you have to be, to be from Southwest kansas and not know what the Cimarron grass lands are?
I still don't know what they are! (Outside of being grassland which I assume are near Cimmaron which we (Meade studs) coincidentally make a habit of beating the crap out of in 2A sports)
They are near Elkhart, actually.
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Good news, we whip their ass constantly too
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Ben Ji, get w bass boat too
Yeah, bass boat will be purchased with the piles of cash I make in year one.
I'm thinking that by year 4 or 5 I could probably afford one of those huge ocean fishing boats dax was talking about. :love: :love: :love:
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When mrs.hamburg's grandma dies (so 20 years from now) her and her sisters get 400 acres. I think I'm going to keep one acre with one cow so I can write off my truck and all my gas going back to KS. I think I can also do things like write off a new computer for doing cow business.
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My dad almost got $2 million for farm land from the government for some solar power thingy but they decided to go with wind power at some other location at the last minute. Typical gov. ruining everyone's life.
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Meade Ks. , lotta steers out there I guess, anything else?
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Meade Ks. , lotta steers out there I guess, anything else?
Taco trucks, stud 2A sports teams, 3.2 beer, pickup trucks, those enormous windmills, stars in the night sky, deers, 2 lane highways, it goes on
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Meade Ks. , lotta steers out there I guess, anything else?
Taco trucks, stud 2A sports teams, 3.2 beer, pickup trucks, those enormous windmills, stars in the night sky, deers, 2 lane highways, it goes on
The stud 2a sports thing reminds me of when one of my buds first son was born, another bud says "wow, he's hung like a stud field mouse, congrats!"
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Yeah, sounds like someone you'd be friends with
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Pipe down nerd