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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: troubledscribe on September 07, 2014, 10:54:29 AM
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Rec Yds Avg Long TD
Tyler Lockett 6 136 22.7 57 0
Zach Trujillo 1 32 32.0 32 0
Curry Sexton 3 21 7.0 12 0
Deante Burton 2 19 9.5 12 0
DeMarcus Robi 2 17 8.5 9
Glenn Gronko 1 8 8.0 8
Kody Cook 1 6 6.0 6 0
So no andre davis, no judah jones, and Burton dropped close to six passes. Lockett is obviously injured, he had two runs after catches that he should have burned past the defender and simply slowed up. I'm guessing a foot injury? If we aren't going to use Davis as a counterpart to Lockett then we need to use Sexton more as Burton can't catch for crap. For a team that was suppose to be a pass heavy offense this year we have one guy who can ball.
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We really have some problems if our trainers are working a hamstring for a foot injury :sdeek:
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It was evident in the 1st quarter of the SFA game that our WR could not get open.
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We really have some problems if our trainers are working a hamstring for a foot injury :sdeek:
He cramped up? He has something else wrong with him.
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Waters isn't going to make it through the Auburn game if they can't figure out a way to get open. I hope twelve days is enough for TLBL to heal up or we may not score ten points.
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Why after five seasons is this an issue?
How after five seasons of Snyder II can our WR corp be TLBL and then a bunch of slow bumblers or guys who can't catch?
If I'm John Currie I'm asking for some of that recruiting money back to put into the regular athletic operating budget.
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Judah needs to play more.
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Why after five seasons is this an issue?
How after five seasons of Snyder II can our WR corp be TLBL and then a bunch of slow bumblers or guys who can't catch?
If I'm John Currie I'm asking for some of that recruiting money back to put into the regular athletic operating budget.
Look through 2011 at our recruitment of the WR position, it is complete garbage. I'd want money back.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
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Is Kyle Klein hurt?
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
Holding back the real playmakers for Auburn?
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It appears Bill has decided all juco's -- like freshmen -- need a redshirt year. I'm thinking that might not be the best recruiting strategy.
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It was evident in the 1st quarter of the SFA game that our WR could not get open.
This. Davis and/or Jones need to step up. We have vertical game besides Lockett. Waters won't last another game with that type of offense.
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I think Burton will be a good player, he was able to get separation at times, he just had too many drops.
We need a healthy Lockett and a 2nd guy to step up as another threat. Burton is the most likely candidate or hopefully one of the guys like Jones or Davis figures things out soon. Sexton is fine as the 3rd guy and/or Cooks.
I agree Waters won't last if we use him like Klein, which is essentially what the ISU game turned into. I appreciate what he did and he has improved a ton in his ability to run the ball, but he doesn't have that extra 30-40 pounds and we will be throwing Hubener out there if this continues.
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The coaches deserve whatever they get. But LOL if they think Jake will do anything against auburn's defense with his legs.
There is no excuse for not having a juco wr worth a crap in the roster.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
If only Dax knew what was really going on.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
If only Dax knew what was really going on.
Yeah
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Sad
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Sad
It really is...
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The coaches deserve whatever they get. But LOL if they think Jake will do anything against auburn's defense with his legs.
There is no excuse for not having a juco wr worth a crap in the roster.
There's no excuse for having a walkon as our backup qb either.
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Why after five seasons is this an issue?
How after five seasons of Snyder II can our WR corp be TLBL and then a bunch of slow bumblers or guys who can't catch?
If I'm John Currie I'm asking for some of that recruiting money back to put into the regular athletic operating budget.
I've watched you post this, in slightly different forms, many times over the past couple of weeks. The answer is the same answer that we have had since 1998, when the last "group" of recruiters walked out of the door. We have had individuals on Snyder's staff since that time who have been good recruiters, but not a group of them (Bielema, Coleman).
You are wishing for something that has been gone for 15+ years.
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
The answer is the title to the 2003 Tarantino flick featuring Uma Thurman.
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
The answer is the title to the 2003 Tarantino flick featuring Uma Thurman.
:eek:
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Should be more of a "lack of hands" thread
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
There were no recruiting services on the internet.
Also, cocaine fueled recruiting ninjas, allegedly.
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Coke is easy enough to get. Hard to unmake the internet, though.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
my post did not come out right. Certain people here know and aren't saying.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
my post did not come out right. Certain people here know and aren't saying.
uhhh...ok?
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
The answer is the title to the 2003 Tarantino flick featuring Uma Thurman.
:lol:
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
What's really going on?
my post did not come out right. Certain people here know and aren't saying.
It's still not coming out right. In fact, it is still really crappy. Tell us "what is really going on." Until then, I will assume we simply don't have explosive enough receivers to get open against Iowa frickin State man coverage.
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omg I think it's The Code
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omg I think it's The Code
i understand it
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someone let me borrow their decoder
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someone let me borrow their decoder
pm CNS, i hear he has a bomb ass compiler, i'm sure he can reverse engineer this stuff
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seven is right on. wow.
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
There were no recruiting services on the internet.
Also, cocaine fueled recruiting ninjas, allegedly.
yes Pete! I love those 90's Miami Vice recruiting staff stories!
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
Holding back the real playmakers for Auburn?
My hope is that Snyder inserted a slow-motion chip in our entire Defense for the first two games. When that chip comes out, of man, Turman and Shelly? More like Carl Lewis & U-STAN Bolt.
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
Holding back the real playmakers for Auburn?
My hope is that Snyder inserted a slow-motion chip in our entire Defense for the first two games. When that chip comes out, of man, Turman and Shelly? More like Carl Lewis & U-STAN Bolt.
you sane?
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if only posters knew what was really going on.
Holding back the real playmakers for Auburn?
My hope is that Snyder inserted a slow-motion chip in our entire Defense for the first two games. When that chip comes out, of man, Turman and Shelly? More like Carl Lewis & U-STAN Bolt.
you sane?
I'm a dreamer.
Or
The heart wants what the heart wants.
Gonna win 'em all!
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B E S U R E T O D R I N K Y O U R O V A L T I _ _
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Guys and gals can we discuss the Clinkscales, Derricott, and Riddle situation? Are they redshirting? How are 3 highly recruited defensive players not seeing the field? Everything seemed very positive during fall practices. Anyone with inside info? Very nervous about this season given how shitty our DL and LBs looked against ISU.
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Someone posted in some other thread that Derricott said on his IG that he might play against Auburn and he's not redshirting.
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when the hell is coleman getting called to task? he's the damn WR coach, damn it. these guys can't get open, ever.
smh wtf?
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I thought the receivers were open often enough that Waters should have had a better day. He was missing the short to intermediate routes constantly.
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He was missing the short to intermediate routes constantly.
Par for Jake's course.
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He was missing the short to intermediate routes constantly.
Par for Jake's course.
gmafb
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By the way, if there is a PM, please include me. History dictates that I am very good about not spilling the beans on good insider information.
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Someone posted in some other thread that Derricott said on his IG that he might play against Auburn and he's not redshirting.
:peek:
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By the way, if there is a PM, please include me. History dictates that I am very good about not spilling the beans on good insider information.
There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
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He was missing the short to intermediate routes constantly.
Par for Jake's course.
gmafb
Sorry, thought this was a carry-over from the off-season theme that Jake was better at the long pass than at short to mids.
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Is Kyle Klein hurt?
Out for the year.
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jake played well saturday, you're looking for crap to bitch about
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Is Kyle Klein hurt?
Out for the year.
oh.
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Is Kyle Klein hurt?
Out for the year.
Can confirm. Football career (if there was one to be had after his EMAW days) is over. Real shitty.
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He was missing the short to intermediate routes constantly.
Par for Jake's course.
yes, Waters is looking more Beasley than May or Bishop in the passing game
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There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
Snyder and his staff are also about winning and putting guys out there that give the team the best shot to win. IMHO its about consistency in alignment, knowing what to do in the scheme, AND effort/hard work. Snyder wants the most talent on the field that can do those 3 things because talented guys that take plays off or don't know what they are doing get you beat just as often as hard working walk ons, its just not as easy to see. Its not like this is new; this has been consistent through out his time at K-State. And his track record shows that eventually those more talented JUCO guys (or HS) eventually work their way into the mix, some faster than others.
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There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
Snyder and his staff are also about winning and putting guys out there that give the team the best shot to win. IMHO its about consistency in alignment, knowing what to do in the scheme, AND effort/hard work. Snyder wants the most talent on the field that can do those 3 things because talented guys that take plays off or don't know what they are doing get you beat just as often as hard working walk ons, its just not as easy to see. Its not like this is new; this has been consistent through out his time at K-State. And his track record shows that eventually those more talented JUCO guys (or HS) eventually work their way into the mix, some faster than others.
Except these guys that supposedly are more sound have been awful at positioning themselves, taking the correct angles and tackling....
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Except these guys that supposedly are more sound have been awful at positioning themselves, taking the correct angles and tackling....
I thought for the most part the angles and position to make plays were fine, guys like Truman just did a really poor job finishing plays. Most of the time he was right there to make a tackle but somehow let the specimen that is Sam Richardson make him miss.
I am hopeful that the issues that were exposed in this game expedite the process for some of these new guys getting into the mix and I think they will. Also, that guys like Dakorey Johnson, who made a nice play running down Richardson, work their way into the mix because of flashes like that.
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I think Truman just has "Big Hit Syndrome". Instead of staying on his feet, keeping the ballcarrier in front of him, and making a good form tackle, he is trying to knock somebody's hat off, and he is just missing and looking silly in the process. Coach Snyder needs to spend some time working with Jonathan over the next 1.5 weeks to get him back into his 2013 form, where he didn't do anything flashy, but he wasn't clearly the worst player on the field, either.
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I think Truman just has "Big Hit Syndrome". Instead of staying on his feet, keeping the ballcarrier in front of him, and making a good form tackle, he is trying to knock somebody's hat off, and he is just missing and looking silly in the process. Coach Snyder needs to spend some time working with Jonathan over the next 1.5 weeks to get him back into his 2013 form, where he didn't do anything flashy, but he wasn't clearly the worst player on the field, either.
sounds like me on ncaa football :frown:
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Davis is kind of escaping blame for the terrible LB play. We essentially have two Truman's out there wandering aimlessly around the field. Throw in Slothlenburg and Morgan gettn' Burns and our defense has a ton of holes. This is without even mentioning the DL whose talent appears to be missing the QB in synchronization.
But there is a shitty defense thread for all of that I suppose.
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Davis is kind of escaping blame for the terrible LB play. We essentially have two Truman's out there wandering aimlessly around the field. Throw in Slothlenburg and Morgan gettn' Burns and our defense has a ton of holes. This is without even mentioning the DL whose talent appears to be missing the QB in synchronization.
But there is a shitty defense thread for all of that I suppose.
Truman might actually be better than Davis. His poor play stands out more because he has been missing so many tackles, but at least he has been in position to make those tackles.
Derricott has to crack the starting lineup soon, right?
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Davis is kind of escaping blame for the terrible LB play. We essentially have two Truman's out there wandering aimlessly around the field. Throw in Slothlenburg and Morgan gettn' Burns and our defense has a ton of holes. This is without even mentioning the DL whose talent appears to be missing the QB in synchronization.
But there is a shitty defense thread for all of that I suppose.
Truman might actually be better than Davis. His poor play stands out more because he has been missing so many tackles, but at least he has been in position to make those tackles.
Derricott has to crack the starting lineup soon, right?
To me, Truman looks stiff and muscle-bound and possibly injured. He tried to tackle on Saturday without bending at the waist; it almost looked like he was hurt. The tackles he did make involved wrestling people down by the head. I don't coach football or anything, but that doesn't seem to be the best tackling form. I can never remember him looking like that, before.
He has never been very fast, but something didn't look right on Saturday.
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On one play, we moved somebody right to the tackle gap just prior to the snap. ISU proceeded to snap the ball and then run right at that GDP for about 15 yards. (Something like that)
Gonna win 'em all!
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There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
Snyder and his staff are also about winning and putting guys out there that give the team the best shot to win. IMHO its about consistency in alignment, knowing what to do in the scheme, AND effort/hard work. Snyder wants the most talent on the field that can do those 3 things because talented guys that take plays off or don't know what they are doing get you beat just as often as hard working walk ons, its just not as easy to see. Its not like this is new; this has been consistent through out his time at K-State. And his track record shows that eventually those more talented JUCO guys (or HS) eventually work their way into the mix, some faster than others.
You're wasting your breath, _FAN... You and I both have been posting variations of this exact post for the past 3-4 years and most of these mouth breathers will just never get it.
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There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
Snyder and his staff are also about winning and putting guys out there that give the team the best shot to win. IMHO its about consistency in alignment, knowing what to do in the scheme, AND effort/hard work. Snyder wants the most talent on the field that can do those 3 things because talented guys that take plays off or don't know what they are doing get you beat just as often as hard working walk ons, its just not as easy to see. Its not like this is new; this has been consistent through out his time at K-State. And his track record shows that eventually those more talented JUCO guys (or HS) eventually work their way into the mix, some faster than others.
You're wasting your breath, _FAN... You and I both have been posting variations of this exact post for the past 3-4 years and most of these mouth breathers will just never get it.
Yep, this is right on. This coaching staff thinks that execution wins out over talent most of the time. If anything, Snyder might be the coach on this staff that is most inclined to go with talent over execution, judging from his weird comments last year about SAMs and this year about Jones.
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How do we get that? How did we get it back then? I honestly have no clue.
There were no recruiting services on the internet.
Also, cocaine fueled recruiting ninjas, allegedly.
yes Pete! I love those 90's Miami Vice recruiting staff stories!
Confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There is no insider info, our receivers just suck and Lockett has a bum hammy. Also, Dvonta and Clinks are probably not red-shirting, Snyder is just refusing to play them because he's all about the "hard working" walk-ons right now. He doesn't give a damn about how slow and untalented we are and he is not holding anyone back for some sort of scheme against Auburn. Reality is a bitch sometimes.
Snyder and his staff are also about winning and putting guys out there that give the team the best shot to win. IMHO its about consistency in alignment, knowing what to do in the scheme, AND effort/hard work. Snyder wants the most talent on the field that can do those 3 things because talented guys that take plays off or don't know what they are doing get you beat just as often as hard working walk ons, its just not as easy to see. Its not like this is new; this has been consistent through out his time at K-State. And his track record shows that eventually those more talented JUCO guys (or HS) eventually work their way into the mix, some faster than others.
You're wasting your breath, _FAN... You and I both have been posting variations of this exact post for the past 3-4 years and most of these mouth breathers will just never get it.
Yep, this is right on. This coaching staff thinks that execution wins out over talent most of the time. If anything, Snyder might be the coach on this staff that is most inclined to go with talent over execution, judging from his weird comments last year about SAMs and this year about Jones.
Yes. And judging by the players he played in his first tenure, when we were better, and more fun to watch.
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Do you idiots really believe that Snyder can't dictate who starts?
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DUBDUB. YOU GAVE YOUR ULTIMATUM. NOW DISH :runaway: :users:
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Really glad to see Sexton mush this talking point. The problem is Jake, not our WRs.
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Really glad to see Sexton mush this talking point. The problem is Jake, not our WRs.
No, the problem is the WRs. Jake was pretty good tonight.
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Really glad to see Sexton mush this talking point. The problem is Jake, not our WRs.
No, the problem is the WRs. Jake was pretty good tonight.
He had a couple really bad throws and the second INT was bad, but all in all Jake was fine today.
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Hot Sexton all you haters' hoes.