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Title: -37
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 26, 2014, 10:23:46 PM
Call me crazy, but I like it.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Gooch on August 26, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Waaaaaaaay to many points.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 26, 2014, 10:26:28 PM
Might just go all in on the -39250 ML
Title: Re: -37
Post by: CNS on August 26, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
Whoeves we play (as long as it isn't ku) to cover would be basically the easiest bet of the season.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 26, 2014, 10:27:57 PM
Seems like a pretty spot on line to me. I wouldn't touch it.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Benja on August 26, 2014, 10:30:03 PM
Whoeves we play (as long as it isn't ku) to cover would be basically the easiest bet of the season.

huh?
Title: Re: -37
Post by: CNS on August 26, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I am saying I font think we put up that big of a spread
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2014, 10:31:53 PM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 26, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.

Apparently you missed it when I crushed march madness last season. (all posted)
Title: Re: -37
Post by: MadCat on August 26, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
I wouldn't risk a whole farm on this one...perhaps just the pumpkin patch.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.

Apparently you missed it when I crushed march madness last season. (all posted)
I made $12 on a bet too. :D
Title: Re: -37
Post by: cas4ksu on August 26, 2014, 10:46:56 PM
Where did you see this line posted, ERII?
Title: Re: -37
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 26, 2014, 10:48:16 PM
Where did you see this line posted, ERII?

5dimes
Title: Re: -37
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2014, 06:18:00 AM
We always play the first pud close, or lose to them :-(
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Cire on August 27, 2014, 06:47:22 AM
When was the last time we won by 37 noncon?
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Winters on August 27, 2014, 07:43:27 AM
When was the last time we won by 37 noncon?
Pretty sure it was Miami in '12  :runaway:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2014, 08:31:49 AM
When was the last time we won by 37 noncon?
Pretty sure it was Miami in '12  :runaway:

daniel went wild and we partied so hard  :frown:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: TownieCat on August 27, 2014, 08:42:32 AM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.

Apparently you missed it when I crushed march madness last season. (all posted)

Didn't you lose half of your farms on a Royals game last week?  :gocho:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.

Apparently you missed it when I crushed march madness last season. (all posted)
I made $12 on a bet too. :D

Great... You're still short over half of what you lost to me.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: TownieCat on August 27, 2014, 08:46:38 AM
I think we'll be ahead by at least 37 at some point (something like 48-7), but don't think we'll win by 37+ (something like 48-17).
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
I wouldn't touch this bet with ERII's -10,000 gambling debt with a world wide poll.

Apparently you missed it when I crushed march madness last season. (all posted)
I made $12 on a bet too. :D

Great... You're still short over half of what you lost to me.

 :dubious:
Hey man! That was good bet. K-state beat Ok state in basketball and the Chiefs blew a 28 point lead vs the colts.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Winters on August 27, 2014, 09:26:11 AM
When was the last time we won by 37 noncon?
Pretty sure it was Miami in '12  :runaway:

daniel went wild and we partied so hard  :frown:
what a day  :frown:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
Winters, we watched that game together and party rocked hard.  :)
Title: Re: -37
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2014, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: Spread
I was going to be reasonable, but then i got high
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
Just messin' witcha WC08... I was more gutted than you that day because I was on the same play for a bit more than you.

Now, pertinent to this thread, here's some food for thought:  The SFA Lumberjacks have been outscored, 209-20, over their last four meetings with an FBS level opponent and were statistically the VERY WORST defense in all of FCS last year.

I'm gonna lay the points.

Cats - 56
SFA - 10

:kstategrad:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 'taterblast on August 27, 2014, 10:42:29 AM
i'd probably take the +37
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 10:55:46 AM
Correction: They were the SECOND to the worst overall defense in FCS last year allowing 528 ypg.

 :lol:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 27, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
It should be very easy for the Cats to cover this spread, but then again I sat down and witnessed all of our games against FCS schools since Snyder took over for Prince, so if I had to throw down money, I would go with the Cats not covering.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 27, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
Keep in mind Lockett probably won't play second half
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
I really think everybody here is underestimating how truly awful SFA is defensively.  Its almost impossible to give up over 500 yds per game and to do it vs FCS level competition for a season is baffling. 

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
SFA had the worst scoring defense, worst pass defense, 2nd worst total defense, and 3rd worst pass efficiency defense in FCS football (out of 122 teams) last year.

The Cats are going to score some points.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 'taterblast on August 27, 2014, 11:50:52 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2177234-college-football-week-1-predictions-picking-all-top-25-games-against-the-spread/page/6 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2177234-college-football-week-1-predictions-picking-all-top-25-games-against-the-spread/page/6)

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The Line: Kansas State (-37)

After this game, Stephen F. Austin will take on Incarnate Word. That’s a real school, and it also gives you an idea of what kind of matchup we’re trying to handicap.

At 5Dimes, K-State has been pegged as a 37-point favorite. For an offense that will bring back Tyler Lockett, one of the Big 12’s premier wideouts, along with quarterback Jake Waters, who showed plenty of promise while sharing reps last year, this seems somewhat low.

The Wildcats come into this game having covered seven of their last nine in 2013. Let’s take advantage of a number that seems somewhat favorable and hope that K-State makes it eight of 10.

Kansas State (-37)
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
I really think everybody here is underestimating how truly awful SFA is defensively.  Its almost impossible to give up over 500 yds per game and to do it vs FCS level competition for a season is baffling. 

 :sdeek:

I meant "everybody with the exception of ksu_FAN"...

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 11:54:36 AM
I really think everybody here is underestimating how truly awful SFA is defensively.  Its almost impossible to give up over 500 yds per game and to do it vs FCS level competition for a season is baffling. 

 :sdeek:

I meant "everybody with the exception of ksu_FAN"...

 :thumbsup:

Yeah, they are terrible, just awful. I can't see them making much improvement in the spring/fall. Waters could have 400 and Lockett could have 250 if Snyder plays them much in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 27, 2014, 12:40:46 PM
I really think everybody here is underestimating how truly awful SFA is defensively.  Its almost impossible to give up over 500 yds per game and to do it vs FCS level competition for a season is baffling. 

 :sdeek:

I meant "everybody with the exception of ksu_FAN"...

 :thumbsup:

Yeah, they are terrible, just awful. I can't see them making much improvement in the spring/fall. Waters could have 400 and Lockett could have 250 if Snyder plays them much in the 2nd half.

But how much will we give up?
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
They've averaged 5 ppg in their last four games vs FBS competition.

Maybe they double it and get 10?
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
But how much will we give up?

17 or less.

I see a 55-10 type of game.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Gooch on August 27, 2014, 12:49:17 PM
But how much will we give up?

17 or less.

I see a 55-10 type of game.
Would take. My shoulder might be a little sore on Sunday from all the high 5'n with MIR tho.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kslim on August 27, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
Just messin' witcha WC08... I was more gutted than you that day because I was on the same play for a bit more than you.

Now, pertinent to this thread, here's some food for thought:  The SFA Lumberjacks have been outscored, 209-20, over their last four meetings with an FBS level opponent and were statistically the VERY WORST defense in all of FCS last year.

I'm gonna lay the points.

Cats - 56
SFA - 10

:kstategrad:
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Title: Re: -37
Post by: MadCat on August 27, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
How many backup Willies do we have for pushups?  Maybe this should have been Ft. Riley day to help with that.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: CHONGS on August 27, 2014, 12:56:28 PM
I dunnnnno guys. BUT I hope we are looking ahead the whole game.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 27, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
It's hard to see us being that dominant in our first game considering how bad we've been the last couple years against these teams.  But I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
I realize SFA had a good offense last year, but they ran a quick no huddle system (87 plays per game) which only magnifies their defensive problems. Their new coach from Central Arkansas ran a similar quick offense (81 plays per game), so that won't change much, plus the transition to a new system. FCS teams simply don't have the athletes across the field to make these systems work against FBS teams, unlike NDSU last year which was just the opposite combining great experience with a tempo that contributed greatly to the upset. Plus the Cats are used to seeing some of the best no huddle offense in the country in the Big 12, so that shouldn't be a new challenge.

K-State should cover easily and if the Cats win the TO margin and/or special teams by a large margin it could get really ugly.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Winters on August 27, 2014, 01:27:32 PM
Winters, we watched that game together and party rocked hard.  :)
yeah we did  :D
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
But how much will we give up?

17 or less.

I see a 55-10 type of game.


2 FGs or a missed XP?

Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
But how much will we give up?

17 or less.

I see a 55-10 type of game.


2 FGs or a missed XP?



2 FGs
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
But how much will we give up?

17 or less.

I see a 55-10 type of game.


2 FGs or a missed XP?



2 FGs

 :thumbsup:

I must admit, however, that I'll be super disappointed if we stall in FG range once, let alone twice though.

Title: Re: -37
Post by: kslim on August 27, 2014, 02:07:53 PM
we scored ten points against eastern kentucky. thats all ill say at this point
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 02:27:20 PM
we scored ten points against eastern kentucky. thats all ill say at this point

Check the seasons when Snyder returns a starting QB. That's all I'll say at this point. :D
Title: Re: -37
Post by: GONNATEAMKILLU on August 27, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
If we win by 37 points then Waters to Lockett better account for at least 5 TDs
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 27, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
we scored ten points against eastern kentucky. thats all ill say at this point

Check the seasons when Snyder returns a starting QB. That's all I'll say at this point. :D

In 2012, we led the Missouri State Bears 16-9 going into the 4th quarter. The score ended up lopsided thanks to 3 really big plays in the 4th, but it was ugly. For whatever reason, the Cats just haven't come to play against FCS competition in quite some time. I'm optimistic that will change this year, but I wouldn't bet money on a 37 point spread.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 02:32:00 PM
Fading goEMAW consensus is generally VERY profitable...

 :billdance:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kim carnes on August 27, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
we scored ten points against eastern kentucky. thats all ill say at this point

Check the seasons when Snyder returns a starting QB. That's all I'll say at this point. :D

Doesn't apply to this season b/c those QBs all won a lot of games in their first season unlike waters (except for ell but he was a soph and was surrounded by garbage talent)
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kslim on August 27, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
we scored ten points against eastern kentucky. thats all ill say at this point

Check the seasons when Snyder returns a starting QB. That's all I'll say at this point. :D
are we talking about the home opener or full season? we suck the first game of the year. it is known
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kso_FAN on August 27, 2014, 02:47:20 PM
Home opener against FCS schools. Yeah, it was an ugly game, but the CoffCats still scored 48 in that game. Those 4th quarter points still scored.

FWIW, I don't think it will be that ugly this time around. I'd guess we'll have 28+ at halftime.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kslim on August 27, 2014, 03:02:12 PM
Home opener against FCS schools. Yeah, it was an ugly game, but the CoffCats still scored 48 in that game. Those 4th quarter points still scored.

FWIW, I don't think it will be that ugly this time around. I'd guess we'll have 28+ at halftime.
i hope youre right, not gEing here at all i honestly think that the playcalling is more of a motivational thing for our players than anything and last year it bit him in the ass.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Benja on August 27, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
We were winning our non-cons back then by so much for a variety of reasons, a couple being less parity in the 90's and also the fact that most of our team was gigantic creatures that mainlined ped's for breakfast. If we beat SFA by 37+ points, I'll be extremely impressed.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 27, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
We were winning our non-cons back then by so much for a variety of reasons, a couple being less parity in the 90's and also the fact that most of our team was gigantic creatures that mainlined ped's for breakfast. If we beat SFA by 37+ points, I'll be extremely impressed.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 27, 2014, 07:54:52 PM
I don't care who the teams are, taking -37 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for a ton of reasons.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: slobber on August 27, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
Bookie, how many farms? I can't believe you'll bet more than one, and more than likely it'll be one down by Council Grove, which only counts as half a farm.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: -37
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 27, 2014, 08:36:39 PM
I don't care who the teams are, taking -37 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for a ton of reasons.

You are really dumb.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Benja on August 27, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
I don't care who the teams are, taking -37 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for a ton of reasons.

You are really dumb.

you're dumb! and you're not my real dad!
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 27, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
I don't care who the teams are, taking -37 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for a ton of reasons.

You are really dumb.
The plot of a perfect storm  :zzz:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2014, 09:46:42 PM
Bookie, how many farms? I can't believe you'll bet more than one, and more than likely it'll be one down by Council Grove, which only counts as half a farm.


Gonna win 'em all!

Just a standard single farm (Hillsboro area) play like all of the opening weekend plays... Will wait to get more data before betting multiple (brown, fertile dirt with mineral rights) farms.

:kstategrad:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 29, 2014, 11:46:48 AM
Apparently those who bet large sums of cash skrilla (enough to move point spreads) on CFB sporting events seem to disagree with the average goEMAW handicapper...

The line has moved from K-State -37 to -41 at 5dimes

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/offshore/
Title: Re: -37
Post by: mocat on August 29, 2014, 11:49:47 AM
theres just no effing way
Title: Re: -37
Post by: cfbandyman on August 29, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
LHCBS has some farms to move.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: kslim on August 29, 2014, 12:36:58 PM
nope nope nope nope
Title: Re: -37
Post by: steve dave on August 29, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
idea: gE bets all of our site funds on the +41.
upside: we either get to enjoy a 41+ point ksu cats win or we get to win a lot of money
downside: :dunno:
Title: Re: -37
Post by: 'taterblast on August 29, 2014, 02:55:05 PM
idea: gE bets all of our site funds on the +41.
upside: we either get to enjoy a 41+ point ksu cats win or we get to win a lot of money
downside: :dunno:

this is how i like to gamble when it comes to cat sports
Title: Re: -37
Post by: ChiComCat on August 29, 2014, 02:58:51 PM
Snyder will throw a bomb to Lockett once to help cushion a lead.  Then it will be hand offs, read options, short routes, and timeouts to avoid delay of game penalties the rest of the game. 

Farm on the under.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Cire on August 29, 2014, 03:02:38 PM
bill is going to try and get TL a shlt ton of yards and td's.

he might have 20 catches tomorrow.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2014, 03:06:37 PM
I would be shocked if we ran a single read option.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Benja on August 29, 2014, 03:11:01 PM
Maybe SFA is really terrible or something.
Title: Re: -37
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 30, 2014, 01:16:25 PM
HURRY!! BET ON SFA BEFORE VEGAS HEARS ABOUT LOCKETT!!!
Title: Re: -37
Post by: CHONGS on August 30, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
I see a 28 pt win...41 would be nice though.  Would require a lot of tos from SFA.