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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2014, 10:00:18 AM
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The Cats get not only a much needed home game, but a home game against one of the bottom teams in the league. To be fair, Tubby Smith has come to Lubbock and raised the level of play, separating the Red Raiders from an awful TCU team by a significant margin and landing Tech in kenpom's Top 100. However, this is still the 9th best team in the league and the Cats should expect to beat them at home.
Tech has put up some solid overall numbers for the season, but against Top 100 competition they have slid significantly, especially on defense. And notice on the road against Top 100 teams Tech hasn't gained an advantage in any of the four factors while being outscored by .17 points per possession, which translates to a margin of nearly 11 points per game at a 64 possession pace.
The below average defense is the biggest difference from traditional Tubby Smith teams (this is actually one of his top 3 offenses in the last 10 years) especially on 2PT shots. Smith's teams usually hold opponents to the low 40s on 2s, but this season teams are shooting in the upper 40s against them. Smith also apparently has bought into the fool's gold mantra for 3s and his teams don't shoot many but they allow opponents to shoot a lot.
The biggest caution going into this game is that Tech does have some solid bigs (which could create match up problems) and often will have 3 players 6-7 or bigger on the floor. Crockett and Tolbert (both 6-7) lead in scoring (14 and 12 PPG) and both will shoot 3s, but are mainly inside players. Their third scoring threat is PG Robert Turner (10 PPG) plus they have a driveway shooter in Hannahs (.421 on 3s, 1.6 makes per game). Finally they have a decent 3rd guard in combo goard Gotcher and 7 footer Dejan Kravic.
This is a game that should end K-State's losing skid. Tech could be tough in Lubbock, but this is simply a game the Cats shouldn't lose at home.
Cats 75 - Raiders 61
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Taking advantage of the townie special ticket prices on stubhub.
Gonna be there tonite with little Camdynce and Brickstynn.
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time for shane to get his swagger back
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Tubby Smith has Tech playing well, though they have lost 3 straight. They've beaten TCU and OSU at home and took KU to the wire. Their biggest strength in league games is rebounding, but they are pretty average at everything. They play at a slower pace than us, but that shouldn't be a big problem. In Manhattan, the Cats played solid defense, but got beat on the oboards. K-State's road problems are well known by this point, so this is a game most will pick the Cats to lose and I probably should as well.
But I can't. This is the 2nd most winnable road game on the schedule and I think its time for the Cats to end the road skid. It won't be pretty, nor will it be easy, but K-State gets it done in a grinder.
Cats 59 - Raiders 57
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Cats 59 - Raiders 57
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Cats 59 - Raiders 57
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59 + 57 = 116
116 < 129.5
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KANSAS STATE AT TEXAS TECH
WHEN
Sat., Feb. 25, 6 p.m. CST
WHERE
United Spirit Arena (15,208), Lubbock, Texas
TELEVISION
ESPN2
THE COACHES
K-STATE: oscar Weber (Wisconsin-Milwaukee '78); School Record: 45-17 (2nd season), Career Record: 358-172 (16th season)
TEXAS TECH: Tubby Smith (High Point '73); School Record: 13-14 (1st season); Career Record: 524-240 (23rd season)
KANSAS STATE WILDCATS (18-9, 8-6 BIG 12)
G - #55 Will Spradling 6-2/185 (8.1 ppg., 2.9 apg.)
G - #2 Marcus Foster 6-2/200 (15.2 ppg., 3.5 rpg.)
G/F - #25 Westicles 6-7/195 (6.5 ppg., 4.0 rpg.)
F - #11 Nino Williams 6-5/220 (6.4 ppg., 3.3 rpg.)
F- #42 Thomas Gipson 6-7/265 (11.7 ppg., 6.4 rpg.)
TEXAS TECH RED RAIDERS (13-14, 5-9 Big 12)
G - #14 Robert Turner 6-3/180 (9.8 ppg., 2.5 rpg.)
G - #20 Toddrick Gotcher 6-4/195 (7.4 ppg., 3.0 rpg.)
F - #30 Jaye Crockett 6-7/210 (14.3 ppg., 6.6 rpg.)
F - #32 Jordan Tolbert 6-7/225 (11.1 ppg., 6.0 rpg.)
C- #11 Dejan Kravic 7-0/235 (6.7 ppg., 4.4 rpg.)
I thought the game was tonight :confused:
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I hope our guys feel like jumping to get rebounds tonight.
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Straight to the bottom. :gocho:
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Tubby Smith has Tech playing well, though they have lost 3 straight. They've beaten TCU and OSU at home and took KU to the wire. Their biggest strength in league games is rebounding, but they are pretty average at everything. They play at a slower pace than us, but that shouldn't be a big problem. In Manhattan, the Cats played solid defense, but got beat on the oboards. K-State's road problems are well known by this point, so this is a game most will pick the Cats to lose and I probably should as well.
But I can't. This is the 2nd most winnable road game on the schedule and I think its time for the Cats to end the road skid. It won't be pretty, nor will it be easy, but K-State gets it done in a grinder.
Cats 59 - Raiders 57
_FAN knows what's up!!! CATS GOIN TO WIN!!!
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Tubby Smith has Tech playing well, though they have lost 3 straight. They've beaten TCU and OSU at home and took KU to the wire. Their biggest strength in league games is rebounding, but they are pretty average at everything. They play at a slower pace than us, but that shouldn't be a big problem. In Manhattan, the Cats played solid defense, but got beat on the oboards. K-State's road problems are well known by this point, so this is a game most will pick the Cats to lose and I probably should as well.
But I can't. This is the 2nd most winnable road game on the schedule and I think its time for the Cats to end the road skid. It won't be pretty, nor will it be easy, but K-State gets it done in a grinder.
Cats 59 - Raiders 57
Your glass is always half full :thumbsup:
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Sprad is 9 points from a 1k Point Career :Woohoo:
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Tech's last 8 games (4 home 4 road) they ppp is down. Only 1.03 over those 8
They are not a big 3 pt shooting team outside of Hannahs. Turner/Gotcher/Crockett only make just over 2 3s a game on the season
As mentioned the slow pace. Only 58 poss/ave in their last 4 home games. Cats have to play even (or barely win) the TO battle tonight
WE have had real issues in the 1st half of road games. I think how we come out and play the first 10-12 minutes will likely give us a feel on how the game will go.
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WE have had real issues in the 1st half of road games. I think how we come out and play the first 10-12 minutes will likely give us a feel on how the game will go.
Except last time we played in Texas. :gocho: :ohno: :pray:
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I have a hard time picking us over anyone in conf, other than TCU, until I know Shane is playing and we stop having ppl sporting boots on campus. Until then, I am expecting more walk on PT and more losses.
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Sprad is 9 points from a 1k Point Career :Woohoo:
Second Amendment Will is eyeing the 1100 mark by the end of the season. . . and I'm on board.
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But I'm afraid it's yet another Super Bowl night and with that utterly uninspired effort from Saturday. :sdeek:
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If we limit their OR% percentage tonight, then we'll win. If we don't, then it will be a painful game to watch.
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I think the 6pm tip is key, and we will will blow them out of the sand because it isn't past our 8pm bed time.
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I think the 6pm tip is key, and we will will blow them out of the sand because it isn't past our 8pm bed time.
the steve dave effect
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does oscar seems like a guy that stays up after 8pm?
(he does not)
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I think the 6pm tip is key, and we will will blow them out of the sand because it isn't past our 8pm bed time.
the steve dave effect
now that turntable is gone what's the point of staying up late? nothing. nothing is the point.
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does oscar seems like a guy that stays up after 8pm?
(he does not)
He did vs KU. :gocho:
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We are 5-1 in midweek games and 3-5 in Saturday games. Maybe our guys enjoy skipping class? :dunno:
Today is Tuesday which leads me to believe we'll win. Cats by 9.
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does oscar seems like a guy that stays up after 8pm?
(he does not)
When else would he walk the dog? :dunno:
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Cats 59 - Raiders 57
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good call _FAN
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We finally won a road game
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The stats will be late tonight. I'm busy, so the thread title will have to wait a bit.
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We finally won a road game
Playing in Lubbock is like a road game in Antarctica.
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We finally won a road game
Playing in Lubbock is like a road game in Antarctica.
Idc, will take at this point
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Great game. Kudos to Tech
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Will absolutely take this win even though it was horrible to watch.
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Great game. Kudos to Tech
No kudos should go to anyone except for maybe Foster tonight. Terrible game. I'm really excited that we won though. Hopefully this sparks a little bit of a turnaround.
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Great game. Kudos to Tech
No kudos should go to anyone except for maybe Foster tonight. Terrible game. I'm really excited that we won though. Hopefully this sparks a little bit of a turnaround.
Wes, tho.
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If that's a Flagrant on Nino, then there have been a lot of missed flagrants in the last 60 seconds of games this season.
Plus get the basket, 2 shots and the ball can't actually be the rule can it?
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Great game. Kudos to Tech
No kudos should go to anyone except for maybe Foster tonight. Terrible game. I'm really excited that we won though. Hopefully this sparks a little bit of a turnaround.
You're right, thatonedude played pretty well tonight. I forget about him sometimes.
Wes, tho.
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Great game. Kudos to Tech
No kudos should go to anyone except for maybe Foster tonight. Terrible game. I'm really excited that we won though. Hopefully this sparks a little bit of a turnaround.
Wes, tho.
You're right, thatonedude played pretty well tonight. I forget about him sometimes.
NuWill can't get the ball across half because of pressure?
ThatOneDude don't even care, he'll take care of it himself. And get to the line and knock down the FTs.
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Holy cow, it was loud in there tonight? What was the attendance?
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Westicles played good down the stretch. He didn't play well the first half and had a TO on the first poss of the 2nd half.
Will was 3-8 3pt. He got fouled by Turner on that steal when we up 54-47. Clear body contact as Turner reached and stole the ball.
Shane was pathetic. 3 TOs. 0 pts in 20 minutes. If he is close to 100% then his game is just sad right now
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Westicles played good down the stretch. He didn't play well the first half and had a TO on the first poss of the 2nd half.
Will was 3-8 3pt. He got fouled by Turner on that steal when we up 54-47. Clear body contact as Turner reached and stole the ball.
Shane was pathetic. 3 TOs. 0 pts in 20 minutes. If he is close to 100% then his game is just sad right now
I wish Shane would show as much senior urgency as Will has exerted. He was downright awful. That 3 on 1 fast break charge :angry:
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Westicles played good down the stretch. He didn't play well the first half and had a TO on the first poss of the 2nd half.
Will was 3-8 3pt. He got fouled by Turner on that steal when we up 54-47. Clear body contact as Turner reached and stole the ball.
Shane was pathetic. 3 TOs. 0 pts in 20 minutes. If he is close to 100% then his game is just sad right now
I wish Shane would show as much senior urgency as Will has exerted. He was downright awful. That 3 on 1 fast break charge :angry:
That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
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Westicles played good down the stretch. He didn't play well the first half and had a TO on the first poss of the 2nd half.
Will was 3-8 3pt. He got fouled by Turner on that steal when we up 54-47. Clear body contact as Turner reached and stole the ball.
Shane was pathetic. 3 TOs. 0 pts in 20 minutes. If he is close to 100% then his game is just sad right now
I wish Shane would show as much senior urgency as Will has exerted. He was downright awful. That 3 on 1 fast break charge :angry:
That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
Yeah it wasn't good spacing. Both charges (Shane and Omari earlier in the game) were bad calls I thought. The big 12 refs are the big 12 refs. They missed obvious calls on us too. The shot clock violation overturn should have been a jumpball. Hannahs shot the ball as the buzzer went off (so he never had possession of the ball, the ball was in the air).
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That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k)
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That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k)
Not a charge.
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That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k)
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Shane had numbers and Foster was waiting for the lob and flush.
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If Shane gives that up to Wes right away, it's lob city for either Marcus or Shane.
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Listened to the game on the radio. Saw his invisible FT high-5's on twitter. Totes adorable :love:
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That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k)
I thought it was terrible live, but worse in that video.
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That was a bad call and terrible spacing by the others on the break. It was bad by Shane, but the other guys on the break deserve much of the blame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf17YJQF0k)
I thought it was terrible live, but worse in that video.
Yeah, that's not even a charge last season. Hell its not a charge in Cameron Indoor if the TTech player was Steve Wojo. The officiating in this game was horrendous(goE faux pas), per usual.
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Listened to the game on the radio. Saw his invisible FT high-5's on twitter. Totes adorable :love:
Totes magotes