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Title: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: BushBlister on January 19, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHfZTjwrFU

this guys a total monstarr
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
Sherman is a stud.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 19, 2014, 09:58:35 PM
That interview made Erin Andrews look like a real bitch.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Pett on January 19, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Crabtree...you're up :impatient:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 19, 2014, 10:29:37 PM
http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: yoman on January 19, 2014, 10:29:58 PM
Oh. My. God.  :love:

EDIT: the :love: is for Sherman. The racists get this :rflush:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 19, 2014, 10:30:58 PM
Crabtree...you're up :impatient:

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Michael Crabtree ?@KingCrab15 12m

Film don't lie... @nflnetwork @espn pull up the tape of that game and show me where this guy is the best? #fake #fake #fake
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 19, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Crabtree...you're up :impatient:

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Michael Crabtree ?@KingCrab15 12m

Film don't lie... @nflnetwork @espn pull up the tape of that game and show me where this guy is the best? #fake #fake #fake

:love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 19, 2014, 10:39:41 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fhappytreefanon%2Fimages%2Ff%2Ff0%2FDis_gon_b_gud.gif&hash=a34a77f8bc59e97b78f6918de4acd29d84ba4257)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2014, 11:08:14 PM
http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

 :sdeek:

This one was my favorite

Richard Sherman is a straight irrogant n-word. Manning is going to rip him apart

— Christian Parafati (@C_parafati_one3) January 20, 2014

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 19, 2014, 11:12:58 PM
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@nflnetwork: Re-airs tomw (9pm ET). #NFLReplay RT @KingCrab15: Film don't lie. @nflnetwork pull up tape of the game & show me where this guy is the best?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2014, 11:17:21 PM
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@nflnetwork: Re-airs tomw (9pm ET). #NFLReplay RT @KingCrab15: Film don't lie. @nflnetwork pull up tape of the game & show me where this guy is the best?

:ROFL:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 19, 2014, 11:22:53 PM
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@nflnetwork: Re-airs tomw (9pm ET). #NFLReplay RT @KingCrab15: Film don't lie. @nflnetwork pull up tape of the game & show me where this guy is the best?

holy crap :surprised:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: slimz on January 19, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
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@nflnetwork: Re-airs tomw (9pm ET). #NFLReplay RT @KingCrab15: Film don't lie. @nflnetwork pull up tape of the game & show me where this guy is the best?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: troubledscribe on January 19, 2014, 11:38:11 PM


    Richard Sherman. What a role model for today's Taliban youth.

    — John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 20, 2014
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
never heard of richard sherman, so i'm siding with crabby on this one.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: michigancat on January 20, 2014, 12:42:37 AM
Richard Sherman is an absolute rough ridin' stud and I hope more people use postGAME interviews to talk trash.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 20, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
Richard Sherman is an absolute rough ridin' stud and I hope more people use postGAME interviews to talk trash.

yeah that was pretty great
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: AbeFroman on January 20, 2014, 12:52:52 AM
I don't see what the problem is here. I guess the simpletons think NFL players don't jaw at each other all game long?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bucket on January 20, 2014, 01:42:33 AM
http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-crap-about-richard-sherm-1504843629?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

 :sdeek:

Nub fans should be happy.... This will take the heat off of them
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: eastcat on January 20, 2014, 02:24:17 AM
This is the same guy that openly claimed he was a better corner than Darrelle Revis right?

What a stupid rough ridin' idiot.  :lol:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: eastcat on January 20, 2014, 02:27:03 AM
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Sherman was selected in the 5th round by the Seattle Seahawks in the 2011 NFL Draft. Sherman remembers watching the draft with his family at home and being "livid" about players who he perceived as inferior getting drafted before him.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: steve dave on January 20, 2014, 05:48:27 AM
eastcat, were you raised to be a terrible person or was it something you learned to be on your own?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Headinjun on January 20, 2014, 06:48:13 AM
Eastcat, were you raised to be a terrible person or was it something you learned to be on your own?

Do You think Eastcat is the one who created a Twitter account just to make a few comments about Sherman?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 20, 2014, 07:34:03 AM
eastcat

Known racist.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: TheHamburglar on January 20, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
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@nflnetwork: Re-airs tomw (9pm ET). #NFLReplay RT @KingCrab15: Film don't lie. @nflnetwork pull up tape of the game & show me where this guy is the best?

That's almost as good as Boston Market tweeting Kellen Winslow.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWesome on January 20, 2014, 08:46:48 AM
Sherman had a 4.2 GPA in high school and got into Stanford with a 1400 on his SAT. Then he graduated early.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Tobias on January 20, 2014, 08:55:42 AM
they're out in full force at work.  fantastic day for it, too :rflush:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 'taterblast on January 20, 2014, 08:58:58 AM
i would love to have Richard Sherman on my football team
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Institutional Control on January 20, 2014, 09:04:34 AM
After that interview, Seattle might have become my second favorite team.  Well, that and this gif. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.sbnation.com%2Fassets%2F1086998%2Fwilsongf.gif&hash=6968be86f509a63758c1e4134817f4c09d829a75)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2014, 09:05:06 AM
Sherman had a 4.2 GPA in high school and got into Stanford with a 1400 on his SAT. Then he graduated early.  :thumbs:

Good article about him from last summer: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1208083/index.htm
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: AppleJack on January 20, 2014, 09:08:13 AM
I like both players  :dunno:

Crabtree is a stud too.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
Even Mellinger gets it. http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/19/4763622/seahawks-sherman-makes-play-then.html
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
On Sportscenter he said he loves to call receivers names with big words, then tell them to go Google that crap later. :love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 20, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Big brain smack
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 09:58:27 AM
This is the same guy that openly claimed he was a better corner than Darrelle Revis right?

What a stupid rough ridin' idiot.  :lol:

:flush:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 20, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
That interview made Erin Andrews look like a real bitch.

I think they were both great.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: steve dave on January 20, 2014, 10:15:16 AM

I like both players  :dunno:

Crabtree is a stud too.

Irrelevant to the discussion
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 20, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
You have to admit that Sherman is a total heel.  I mean, I love him, but he's deliberately inciting rage on the part of opposing players, fans, etc.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 20, 2014, 10:27:42 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/22227384/richard-sherman-hops-on-jet-ski-and-heads-to-seahawks-rookie-camp
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 10:30:41 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/22227384/richard-sherman-hops-on-jet-ski-and-heads-to-seahawks-rookie-camp

 :love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 20, 2014, 10:34:43 AM
How great would it be if the world separated everything by whether you hate Sherman or not?

Assigning seats at a Cats game - Sherman'rs sit one side of the stadium/arena, anti-Sherman'rs on the other.  Bars could be Sherman bars or anti-Sherman bars.

What couldn't go better if people were separated based on their take on Richard Sherman?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 20, 2014, 10:36:20 AM
You have to admit that Sherman is a total heel.  I mean, I love him, but he's deliberately inciting rage on the part of opposing players, fans, etc.
that kid could turn baby face quicker than stone cold steve austin could pour concrete in vince mcmahons car
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 20, 2014, 10:39:03 AM
You have to admit that Sherman is a total heel.  I mean, I love him, but he's deliberately inciting rage on the part of opposing players, fans, etc.
that kid could turn baby face quicker than stone cold steve austin could pour concrete in vince mcmahons car

The word
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 20, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
You have to admit that Sherman is a total heel.  I mean, I love him, but he's deliberately inciting rage on the part of opposing players, fans, etc.
that kid could turn baby face quicker than stone cold steve austin could pour concrete in vince mcmahons car

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeZKY6YCAAAlDSD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 20, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
How great would it be if the world separated everything by whether you hate Sherman or not?

Assigning seats at a Cats game - Sherman'rs sit one side of the stadium/arena, anti-Sherman'rs on the other.  Bars could be Sherman bars or anti-Sherman bars.

What couldn't go better if people were separated based on their take on Richard Sherman?

Quote
Nicnameks ?@nicnameks 14h

@SeanEFrye You're either the type of person who like's a rant like Sherman's or you're not. I'm the former. It's a great dividing line.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
YouTube him going at it with skip bayless. :love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: DQ12 on January 20, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
what a weirdo.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2014, 12:12:36 PM
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/

Stud.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 20, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/

Stud.
yup
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 12:22:15 PM
I can't wait to wear a Sherman shirt around Colorado the next couple weeks
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Benja on January 20, 2014, 12:38:18 PM
"Alright guys, let's go play the game where the biggest strongest fastest people on the planet all smash into eachother, but just remember, don't be too pumped up in your postgame interview 30 seconds after the game ends, or you will completely terrify white america, K?"
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2014, 12:41:30 PM
When you have the context that literally seconds before Sherman tried to shake Crabtree's hand and that he was mushed, on top of making the game winning play against him in the endzone, the response was completely understandable. Football's way too emotional of a game for a guy to come down that quickly for an interview and I can't blame him at all for being excited.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsimmqb.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fsherman-crabtree-960.jpg&hash=f390dd467cb26f173a8387cb5ffff5eec0a9978b)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Boom Roasted on January 20, 2014, 12:49:13 PM
When you have the context that literally seconds before Sherman tried to shake Crabtree's hand and that he was mushed, on top of making the game winning play against him in the endzone, the response was completely understandable. Football's way too emotional of a game for a guy to come down that quickly for an interview and I can't blame him at all for being excited.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsimmqb.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fsherman-crabtree-960.jpg&hash=f390dd467cb26f173a8387cb5ffff5eec0a9978b)
He was trying to get a rise out of Crabtree on that.  Ran out of nowhere and smacked him on the ass and went for the shake more taunting like than anything.

If it weren't for the interview, we would be talking about how stud of a taunt it was.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

True.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 20, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 01:10:07 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

Wrestling too. It's a mother rough ridin' requirement after every match.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 20, 2014, 01:11:44 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

Wrestling too. It's a mother rough ridin' requirement after every match.

well, that's not true, but it's expected.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 01:14:21 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

Wrestling too. It's a mother rough ridin' requirement after every match.

well, that's not true, but it's expected.

They take off team points in tournaments if you don't iirc. :dunno:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Frankenklein on January 20, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
takes a lickin and keeps on tickin  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4ViIwy7KA
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 20, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

Wrestling too. It's a mother rough ridin' requirement after every match.

well, that's not true, but it's expected.

They take off team points in tournaments if you don't iirc. :dunno:

i've never seen it enforced.

my favorite thing to do was troll opposing coaches after matches. emporia had an assistant that used to fly off the handle.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

Wrestling too. It's a mother rough ridin' requirement after every match.

well, that's not true, but it's expected.

They take off team points in tournaments if you don't iirc. :dunno:

i've never seen it enforced.

my favorite thing to do was troll opposing coaches after matches. emporia had an assistant that used to fly off the handle.

:thumbs:

I always shook my opponent's hand after matches. Only time I ever didn't shake the opposing coaches' hands after a match was when I lost at State senior year. Mother rough rider stalled the whole match, should have been DQ'd. Only had it called twice on him. :curse:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Matt Siebrant's Left Hand on January 20, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
Team Sherman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESJgpYYUyM
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: _33 on January 20, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
I didn't care for the yelling and screaming and such.  I prefer cool characters who are like "nbd I'm awesome" over super intense screamers.  But to each his own.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 20, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.

Many many times I've seen opponents greet each other after a game with handshakes, hugs, whatever.  Hell, the coaches shaking hands at midfield is a football institution.  Boxers, UFC fighters, and other opponents in violent sports do it, too.  What's wrong with wanting good sportsmanship?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.

Many many times I've seen opponents greet each other after a game with handshakes, hugs, whatever.  Hell, the coaches shaking hands at midfield is a football institution.  Boxers, UFC fighters, and other opponents in violent sports do it, too.  What's wrong with wanting good sportsmanship?

I don't think for a second it was good sportsmanship.  It wasn't when the game was actually over either.  If a guy in soccer just beat the goalkeeper with the game winner and then immediately walked up to shake hands with the goal keeper, it wouldn't happen. 

I like that Sherman did it, but it was an attempt to show up Crabtree.  Had nothing to do with sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 20, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.

Many many times I've seen opponents greet each other after a game with handshakes, hugs, whatever.  Hell, the coaches shaking hands at midfield is a football institution.  Boxers, UFC fighters, and other opponents in violent sports do it, too.  What's wrong with wanting good sportsmanship?

I don't think for a second it was good sportsmanship.  It wasn't when the game was actually over either.  If a guy in soccer just beat the goalkeeper with the game winner and then immediately walked up to shake hands with the goal keeper, it wouldn't happen. 

I like that Sherman did it, but it was an attempt to show up Crabtree.  Had nothing to do with sportsmanship.

I'm not sure what happened or what was said between those two specifically, I'm just saying that even in football it's okay to want or even expect good sportsmanship.  I'm sure what I saw on Sunday was not it.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Unruly on January 20, 2014, 02:45:56 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.

Many many times I've seen opponents greet each other after a game with handshakes, hugs, whatever.  Hell, the coaches shaking hands at midfield is a football institution.  Boxers, UFC fighters, and other opponents in violent sports do it, too.  What's wrong with wanting good sportsmanship?

I don't think for a second it was good sportsmanship.  It wasn't when the game was actually over either.  If a guy in soccer just beat the goalkeeper with the game winner and then immediately walked up to shake hands with the goal keeper, it wouldn't happen. 

I like that Sherman did it, but it was an attempt to show up Crabtree.  Had nothing to do with sportsmanship.

I'm not sure what happened or what was said between those two specifically, I'm just saying that even in football it's okay to want or even expect good sportsmanship.  I'm sure what I saw on Sunday was not it.

From Sherman.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 20, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
To expect to shake hands after you just beat him to end his season is pretty ridiculous.  Seems like the hand shake is more a reference to whatever happened in Arizona between the two.

People do it in soccer all the time.

They don't in football.  Also, people in soccer probably wouldn't do it if the other team scored the winning goal with 22 seconds left.

Many many times I've seen opponents greet each other after a game with handshakes, hugs, whatever.  Hell, the coaches shaking hands at midfield is a football institution.  Boxers, UFC fighters, and other opponents in violent sports do it, too.  What's wrong with wanting good sportsmanship?

I don't think for a second it was good sportsmanship.  It wasn't when the game was actually over either.  If a guy in soccer just beat the goalkeeper with the game winner and then immediately walked up to shake hands with the goal keeper, it wouldn't happen. 

I like that Sherman did it, but it was an attempt to show up Crabtree.  Had nothing to do with sportsmanship.

I'm not sure what happened or what was said between those two specifically, I'm just saying that even in football it's okay to want or even expect good sportsmanship.  I'm sure what I saw on Sunday was not it.

From Sherman.

From either. 
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Post by: Unruly on January 20, 2014, 02:51:07 PM
Ok, I thought you were trying to say that Sherman was trying to show some semblance of sportsmanship.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 20, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
The NFL needs more of that.. its great for television and great for Sherman
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Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 20, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
Team Sherman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESJgpYYUyM
I really like these commercials. I listen to this song when I'm out slaying babes
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 06:43:45 PM
Ok, I thought you were trying to say that Sherman was trying to show some semblance of sportsmanship.

Me too.  Sherman wasn't and Crabtree handled it fine.  Sherman is just a studboss though
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: _33 on January 20, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141763/
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2014, 10:34:20 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141763/

Are you like 90 years old?

Can we rename this :shakesfist: to :_33ToTheKidsHavingFunNearHisLawn: too long?
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Post by: 8manpick on January 20, 2014, 10:47:22 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141763/

If Joe Namath was "cool", then most of that article's later examples weren't, and Richard Sherman is.
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Post by: Winters on January 20, 2014, 11:04:24 PM
Sherman is a stud.
He's the best in the game
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: _33 on January 21, 2014, 09:58:14 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141763/

Are you like 90 years old?

Can we rename this :shakesfist: to :_33ToTheKidsHavingFunNearHisLawn: too long?

Uncool man.  Obviously.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117

Tell me how I should feel about this.
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 11:30:36 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117

Tell me how I should feel about this.

you should feel that there are racist people
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Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117

Tell me how I should feel about this.

you should feel that there are racist people
I already knew that, anything else?
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 11:32:20 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117

Tell me how I should feel about this.

you should feel that there are racist people
I already knew that, anything else?

nope, you're good
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: michigancat on January 21, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
I disagree with his premise that White America will accept an arrogant untalented black man.
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Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
I disagree with his premise that White America will accept an arrogant untalented black man.


I don't think he means white America would like an arrogant untalented black man, just that he would fit a narrative.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 11:46:24 AM
I disagree with his premise that White America will accept an arrogant untalented black man.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.starpulse.com%2Fnews%2Fbloggers%2F728766%2Fblog_images%2Ftiki-barber-1.jpg&hash=7091413bfd09f615ad54a5f9b9a58d00e4c15cb6)
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Post by: EMAWmeister on January 21, 2014, 11:48:33 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117

Tell me how I should feel about this.

It was done much better than the similar story by the Huffington Post (:jerk:)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 21, 2014, 12:00:16 PM
"Tell me how I should feel about this" is so true though.

I enjoy the number of people, especially writers/bloggers, that are doing just that.
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Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2014, 12:27:50 PM
I disagree with his premise that White America will accept an arrogant untalented black man.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.starpulse.com%2Fnews%2Fbloggers%2F728766%2Fblog_images%2Ftiki-barber-1.jpg&hash=7091413bfd09f615ad54a5f9b9a58d00e4c15cb6)

He was a pretty talented running back :dunno:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2014, 12:39:02 PM
I disagree with his premise that White America will accept an arrogant untalented black man.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.starpulse.com%2Fnews%2Fbloggers%2F728766%2Fblog_images%2Ftiki-barber-1.jpg&hash=7091413bfd09f615ad54a5f9b9a58d00e4c15cb6)

the guy played two different positions on two different teams, AT THE SAME TIME (!), and here comes MIR (who has never played a down of NFL football in his life) to tell us how "untalented" he is. smh. SMDH!
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 21, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Let's leave Eddie Murphy out of this, MIR.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Unruly on January 21, 2014, 12:49:36 PM
Let's leave Eddie Murphy out of this, MIR.

God damn it. Beat me to that punch line.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 02:10:47 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
coaches treat each other like crap all of the time after games. tennis players yell at the umpire in every tournament(serena gets grief for it). baseball managers lose their minds a few times a season. all of this stuff happens plus much more and my timeline doesn't explode with people commenting on their "ignorance" or "classless" behavior. i get that the nfl is insanely popular but the outrage is nonexistant in other circumstances where the individual is white and therefore more predictable to middle america.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
coaches treat each other like crap all of the time after games. tennis players yell at the umpire in every tournament(serena gets grief for it). baseball managers lose their minds a few times a season. all of this stuff happens plus much more and my timeline doesn't explode with people commenting on their "ignorance" or "classless" behavior. i get that the nfl is insanely popular but the outrage is nonexistant in other circumstances where the individual is white and therefore more predictable to middle america.

john mcenroe (sp?) got crap for it all the time too.  and if you can't see the difference between coaches/managers/players getting angry and arguing with the refs over a call, and a player yelling into the camera/at the interviewer about how great he is, then i don't know what to tell you.  americans in general like humble players, that goes for all races.

just look at gE.  shellshock says if people saw what he works on, they would blush cause it's so big timey, and everyone laughs at the jackass for being a jackass.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 21, 2014, 02:19:40 PM
http://www.portlandoregon.gov/novick/article/478436
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
ha, whoa
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Post by: michigancat on January 21, 2014, 02:25:42 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
coaches treat each other like crap all of the time after games. tennis players yell at the umpire in every tournament(serena gets grief for it). baseball managers lose their minds a few times a season. all of this stuff happens plus much more and my timeline doesn't explode with people commenting on their "ignorance" or "classless" behavior. i get that the nfl is insanely popular but the outrage is nonexistant in other circumstances where the individual is white and therefore more predictable to middle america.

john mcenroe (sp?) got crap for it all the time too.  and if you can't see the difference between coaches/managers/players getting angry and arguing with the refs over a call, and a player yelling into the camera/at the interviewer about how great he is, then i don't know what to tell you.  americans in general like humble players, that goes for all races.

John McEnroe became the biggest star in tennis because of his actions. I mean he's doing credit card commercials 20 years after he retired because of the way he used to act.

Did anyone call him a thug or ignorant at any point in his career? I suppose it's possible, but unlikely.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 21, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
coaches treat each other like crap all of the time after games. tennis players yell at the umpire in every tournament(serena gets grief for it). baseball managers lose their minds a few times a season. all of this stuff happens plus much more and my timeline doesn't explode with people commenting on their "ignorance" or "classless" behavior. i get that the nfl is insanely popular but the outrage is nonexistant in other circumstances where the individual is white and therefore more predictable to middle america.

john mcenroe (sp?) got crap for it all the time too.  and if you can't see the difference between coaches/managers/players getting angry and arguing with the refs over a call, and a player yelling into the camera/at the interviewer about how great he is, then i don't know what to tell you.  americans in general like humble players, that goes for all races.

John McEnroe became the biggest star in tennis because of his actions. I mean he's doing credit card commercials 20 years after he retired because of the way he used to act.

Did anyone call him a thug or ignorant at any point in his career? I suppose it's possible, but unlikely.

don't be ignorant.  you and me both know he was labeled a crybaby and hothead.  he was mocked in late night talk shows and SNL (omg, like kanye was after throwing a fit).  he's popular now because he made fun of his past actions, people tend to forgive you when you do that.

like i said though, arguing a call with an official is totally different than what sherman did, and everyone knows it.
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Post by: mocat on January 21, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
sherman will still be famous in 20 years as well and for the same reason
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 02:31:56 PM
don't be ignorant.  you and me both know he was labeled a crybaby and hothead.  he was mocked in late night talk shows and SNL (omg, like kanye was after throwing a fit).  he's popular now because he made fun of his past actions, people tend to forgive you when you do that.


not unlike mike tyson
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 02:35:37 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.
coaches treat each other like crap all of the time after games. tennis players yell at the umpire in every tournament(serena gets grief for it). baseball managers lose their minds a few times a season. all of this stuff happens plus much more and my timeline doesn't explode with people commenting on their "ignorance" or "classless" behavior. i get that the nfl is insanely popular but the outrage is nonexistant in other circumstances where the individual is white and therefore more predictable to middle america.

john mcenroe (sp?) got crap for it all the time too.  and if you can't see the difference between coaches/managers/players getting angry and arguing with the refs over a call, and a player yelling into the camera/at the interviewer about how great he is, then i don't know what to tell you.  americans in general like humble players, that goes for all races.

just look at gE.  shellshock says if people saw what he works on, they would blush cause it's so big timey, and everyone laughs at the jackass for being a jackass.
the guy who just got done playing an nfl game and making the biggest play of his life and of his team's season should be able to say whatever the eff he wants without being called arrogant.

competing your ass off and caring about the outcome of your matchup and of the game like sherman does is better sportsmanship than 10 million interviews of "aww shucks, i just did my best." if americans don't understand that they don't understand sport.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
yeah, he should be able to say whatever he wants.  he should also be judged for what he says.

trim 3:16 and trim 3:17
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
yeah, he should be able to say whatever he wants.  he should also be judged for what he says.

trim 3:16 and trim 3:17
judged as "classless" "arrogant" "ignorant" "a n-word" for yelling into the mic after a personal and team victory. he plays a violent sport in a position where people talk after every single play. it was a hilarious expression of emotion, not cause to be hated. people who hate him for it have a deeper agenda that they may not even be aware of.
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Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 02:52:02 PM
I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.


Also, _Fan, I loved the Oregonian letter to the ed.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.
beautiful words, dobbs. you get it.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
yeah, he should be able to say whatever he wants.  he should also be judged for what he says.

trim 3:16 and trim 3:17
judged as "classless" "arrogant" "ignorant" "a n-word" for yelling into the mic after a personal and team victory. he plays a violent sport in a position where people talk after every single play. it was a hilarious expression of emotion, not cause to be hated. people who hate him for it have a deeper agenda that they may not even be aware of.

well, obviously i'm not saying that there is zero racism from his "haters".  those kind of people will always be around, but i don't think it's as prevalent as the article was making it out to be.  the "jameis is dumb" crowd is much better example of widespread racism i think, where a white player would be given more leniency for an accent.  if a white star said exactly what sherman said, the reaction would be the same (minus the small contingent of n-word/monkey tweets). look how many people hate manziel for his off the field arrogant/classless acts.

classless and arrogant are absolutely fair criticisms though.  ignorant has kind of taken on a meaning that is separate from it's dictionary definition, so i could see that being used as well by a lot of people.

personally i think jackass fits perfectly.
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Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Dumb people calling the Stanford grad ignorant is pretty racist.  Arrogant is probably fair.  Classless is fair too.  He apologized the next day but a lot of people ignore that because they already have the narrative they want.

I really don't get what the issue is.  He didn't cuss on national TV.  Do people want Bill Belichek presser boring?
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.


Also, _Fan, I loved the Oregonian letter to the ed.

absolutely.  ego and arrogance are almost requirements to be a professional athlete (and many other very successful people).  but it's the sort of thing that is rarely seen publicly, and that reason is because the general public finds those qualities distasteful.  gE loves it, i get that, but surely you guys understand what normal humans are like too, right?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: _33 on January 21, 2014, 03:11:56 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 21, 2014, 03:14:57 PM
yeah i don't get the issue either. i mean if people want to feign shock and anger over the fact that one nfl player called another one mediocre then ok i guess. but it still seems weird to just have such a strong stance on it. mediocre is just a pretty weird line in the sand for some i guess and the seahawk guy crossed it. live and learn i suppose.
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Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
Seven, I get that. I am just having fun. Other than the adrenaline, I think players say things like this  more often than we are giving them credit for. Beaz and "play 'em in Africa" is a similar comment, no? Maybe not as much as a "me" comment as Sherman, but similar.

FTR, Beaz saying he'd play KU in Africa is eaz one of my top 5 KSU Cats quotes of all time. Somebody should start a thread.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 21, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.
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Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.

Yeah, it's not really the same.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 21, 2014, 03:24:20 PM
i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."

I think you are forgetting that a large portion of the American public is very stupid.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: _33 on January 21, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.

People don't hate Maziel or Marshall because of on the field issues.  It's their on field antics and soundbytes that draw the ire of fans, just like with this case.  It's exactly the same.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: michigancat on January 21, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
like i said though, arguing a call with an official is totally different than what sherman did, and everyone knows it.

well, yeah. In one case you're berating an authority figure in charge of keeping the contest fair and safe, and in the other you're merely addressing an anonymous audience and competitor. Everyone knows it.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 21, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.

People don't hate Maziel or Marshall because of on the field issues.  It's their on field antics and soundbytes that draw the ire of fans, just like with this case.  It's exactly the same.

Henderson's antics are a much better comparison than those of JFF, but he doesn't have the talent to back it up like RS or JF. Also, how often do you see idiots/tucks on twitter calling MH a 'wigger'. I think race certainly plays a part.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.

People don't hate Maziel or Marshall because of onff (assuming that's what you meant) the field issues.  It's their on field antics and soundbytes that draw the ire of fans, just like with this case.  It's exactly the same.

Maybe that's the case for Marshall, but that's a lot of the reason people hate Manziel. The partying and whatnot.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 03:30:22 PM
Isn't this the same reason tons of people hate Johnny Manziel and Marshall Henderson?

Off the field Manziel got drunk and disappointed a bunch of kids at a camp.  Off the court Henderson does a crap ton of drugs.  Off the field Sherman does charity events and graduates from Stanford.

People don't hate Maziel or Marshall because of on the field issues.  It's their on field antics and soundbytes that draw the ire of fans, just like with this case.  It's exactly the same.

Henderson's antics are a much better comparison than those of JFF, but he doesn't have the talent to back it up like RS or JF. Also, how often do you see idiots/tucks on twitter calling MH a 'wigger'. I think race certainly plays a part.

:sdeek: Haven't heard this word since middle school.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 21, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."

He yelled rick.  pretty loud too.   :nono:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 03:39:36 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 21, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."

He yelled rick.  pretty loud too.   :nono:

"hey honey! did you hear about the crazy incident that happened after the nfl game the other day"
"no. what happened?"
"a player talked really loudly. it was the worst thing i've ever seen. go get the kids right now, we're going to start home schooling"
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: michigancat on January 21, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium? 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

I don't think it's just a black thing, America likes it's celebrities humble and well spoken. Unless of course it's a honey booboo thing for comedy effect.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 04:00:56 PM
no, i hate honey boo boo
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

I don't think it's just a black thing, America likes it's celebrities humble and well spoken. Unless of course it's a honey booboo thing for comedy effect.
Me -> :cheers:<-seven 
We are destroying fools ITT.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 04:02:54 PM
I'm not destroying anyone. It's a discussion.
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Post by: MadCat on January 21, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
The guys on WIBW radio yesterday afternoon referenced an earlier interview with Priest Holmes.  In it, Priest admitted to not knowing how players can do on-field interviews immediately at the end of a game due to the fact that the players essentially assume a different personality during a game.  Having to immediately switch off that persona and return to their civil selves once the mic and camera are in their face takes quite a bit of effort.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 04:05:51 PM
I'm not destroying anyone. It's a discussion.

That was a very humble and well spoken statement seven.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2014, 04:10:03 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 04:14:45 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

No. I've discovered the line between arrogant and confident gets moved around quite a bit.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 21, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

doesn't being controversial always get strong view points one way or the other. he also changed his name to a muslim name and called frazier an uncle tom and said anyone cheering for him was an uncle tom among other things
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 21, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

No. I've discovered the line between arrogant and confident gets moved around quite a bit.

Do you have any examples? I find that people hate arrogant players while they are still playing and love them when they retire, but I could be wrong. I know my grandpa still hates Joe Namath.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26

Well I'm not 26 and you're going to have to take my word on this one. There are plenty of old people reading this who hated Ali until he lit that torch, most if not all won't admit it though. Ali got no endorsements, Cosell got as much grief and death that's as Ali because he befriended him. This is all documented.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26

Well I'm not 26 and you're going to have to take my word on this one. There are plenty of old people reading this who hated Ali until he lit that torch, most if not all won't admit it though. Ali got no endorsements, Cosell got as much grief and death that's as Ali because he befriended him. This is all documented.
I am not 26 either and you are greatly exaggerating the timing of Ali's redemption, it started much earlier than 1996.  I am not saying that there are those that will hate him until their dying day (if you think there are any like that on this blog go ahead and name names!).  Cosell was indeed widely hated for plenty of other reasons than befriending Ali, jewish, a former lawyer, and "an early adopter of unpopular causes and a giant target for Americans everywhere".
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 04:57:00 PM
It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

blackpeoplemeet.com?  no thoughts on it at all.  people have their preferences in a partner, and i don't consider that racist.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

I still don't understand why it was a prevailing thought, I mean the people were white. When I go to worldstarhiphop or bossip I don't have the craven need to read about or see white people acting stupidly.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 05:11:43 PM
It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

I still don't understand why it was a prevailing thought, I mean the people were white. When I go to worldstarhiphop or bossip I don't have the craven need to read about or see white people acting stupidly.

i think you are misunderstanding me completely.  i didn't have a desire to read about black people acting stupidly, and i didn't feel a white injustice was happening.  the comment was 100 percent sarcastic about how it's just as dumb to make a list of stupid white people as it is to make list of stupid black people. if the title was "30 stupid people" and only contained white people in it, i wouldn't have even noticed.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 05:16:21 PM
Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

crap  :curse:

good thing i was josh shea before josh shea was josh shea and don't go to games  :gocho:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 05:18:44 PM
Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

crap  :curse:

good thing i was josh shea before josh shea was josh shea and don't go to games  :gocho:

What about the bars?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 05:20:47 PM
Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

crap  :curse:

good thing i was josh shea before josh shea was josh shea and don't go to games  :gocho:

What about the bars?

craaaaaaaaap
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
Have fun at Dirty Dawgs or whatever Silverado is now!
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
 :blindfold:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 21, 2014, 05:31:07 PM
yeah, he should be able to say whatever he wants.  he should also be judged for what he says.

trim 3:16 and trim 3:17
judged as "classless" "arrogant" "ignorant" "a n-word" for yelling into the mic after a personal and team victory. he plays a violent sport in a position where people talk after every single play. it was a hilarious expression of emotion, not cause to be hated. people who hate him for it have a deeper agenda that they may not even be aware of.

There's not always an agenda. A lot of people have one to be sure, but there are probably just many who are bent out of shape because, like seven said, they simply think the guy is being a "jackass." Stop painting with such a broad brush.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 21, 2014, 05:34:23 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

I think he was saying that America prefers all of their athletes to be humble, for the most part.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: nicname on January 21, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
Disregard my posts.  I'm way behind.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Fedor on January 21, 2014, 05:38:27 PM
Disregard my posts.  I'm way behind.
You are way behind on your phone recovery efforts as well.   :impatient:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 07:21:56 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.
Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking
crap I might have ruined my keyboard, because this made me LOL so hard I spit out the drink of water I was having when reading this.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?
Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

No. I've discovered the line between arrogant and confident gets moved around quite a bit.

Do you have any examples? I find that people hate arrogant players while they are still playing and love them when they retire, but I could be wrong. I know my grandpa still hates Joe Namath.
I would too.  He predicted that his AFL Jets would beat the living snot out of the NFL Colts.  Everyone knew that couldn't be done and heaven forbid anyone saying such a thing.  But I kind of like him; only because he looked so good in panty hose later on in life.  :cool:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 07:38:17 PM
yeah, he should be able to say whatever he wants.  he should also be judged for what he says.

trim 3:16 and trim 3:17
judged as "classless" "arrogant" "ignorant" "a n-word" for yelling into the mic after a personal and team victory. he plays a violent sport in a position where people talk after every single play. it was a hilarious expression of emotion, not cause to be hated. people who hate him for it have a deeper agenda that they may not even be aware of.

There's not always an agenda. A lot of people have one to be sure, but there are probably just many who are bent out of shape because, like seven said, they simply think the guy is being a "jackass." Stop painting with such a broad brush.
i really regretted saying "agenda." what i meant was that people are unaware of the decisions their subconscious makes for them. people who are not blatantly racist can still hold some pretty harmful opinions despite believing they treat everyone equally.

this test from harvard takes 10 minutes and will explain and expose some biases of which many people aren't aware.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/ (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/) you don't need to register or login.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Seven, just from the posts I read today, and not only in this thread, you are the type of guy a friend would have a hard time thinking of you a only a black man.  Because you blend with society.  Now MIR on the other hand will remind you he's black as many times as he can.  He is a black racist and doesn't know it.  By that, I mean he will always point out the differences and inequalities in all men by race.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
Here we go!  This might be the last time we all get to hang out together before seven and katdaddy get relegated to goEMAWforShermanHaters.com.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
Seven, just from the posts I read today, and not only in this thread, you are the type of guy a friend would have a hard time thinking of you a only a black man.  Because you blend with society.  Now MIR on the other hand will remind you he's black as many times as he can.  He is a black racist and doesn't know it.  By that, I mean he will always point out the differences and inequalities in all men by race.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 08:37:05 PM
Seven, just from the posts I read today, and not only in this thread, you are the type of guy a friend would have a hard time thinking of you a only a black man.  Because you blend with society.  Now MIR on the other hand will remind you he's black as many times as he can.  He is a black racist and doesn't know it.  By that, I mean he will always point out the differences and inequalities in all men by race.

You don't need to speak for me.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 08:49:58 PM
Seven, just from the posts I read today, and not only in this thread, you are the type of guy a friend would have a hard time thinking of you a only a black man.  Because you blend with society.  Now MIR on the other hand will remind you he's black as many times as he can.  He is a black racist and doesn't know it.  By that, I mean he will always point out the differences and inequalities in all men by race.

You don't need to speak for me.
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the engineers and directors that are my friends at work.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Here we go!  This might be the last time we all get to hang out together before seven and katdaddy get relegated to goEMAWforShermanHaters.com.
Where did I mention that I hated Sherman or his rant.  Personally, I love this type of interview from someone who is charged up after winning a championship game.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: meow meow on January 21, 2014, 08:56:17 PM
Seven, just from the posts I read today, and not only in this thread, you are the type of guy a friend would have a hard time thinking of you a only a black man.  Because you blend with society.  Now MIR on the other hand will remind you he's black as many times as he can.  He is a black racist and doesn't know it.  By that, I mean he will always point out the differences and inequalities in all men by race.

You don't need to speak for me.
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the engineers and directors that are my friends at work.

What in the eff  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
Here we go!  This might be the last time we all get to hang out together before seven and katdaddy get relegated to goEMAWforShermanHaters.com.
Where did I mention that I hated Sherman or his rant.  Personally, I love this type of interview from someone who is charged up after winning a championship game.

Sorry seven, guess you're still sitting alone at the bar.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 08:57:26 PM
Is Katdaddy a gigantic racist? :frown:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
Is Katdaddy a gigantic racist? :frown:
What in the eff  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the engineers and directors that are my friends at work.

I don't understand what this means. :confused:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
Here we go!  This might be the last time we all get to hang out together before seven and katdaddy get relegated to goEMAWforShermanHaters.com.
Where did I mention that I hated Sherman or his rant.  Personally, I love this type of interview from someone who is charged up after winning a championship game.

Sorry seven, guess you're still sitting alone at the bar.

this is not unusual  :frown:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 21, 2014, 09:47:39 PM
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the "black" engineers and directors that are my friends at work.

I don't understand what this means. :confused:
Does this help.  They are successful because they get along and work with everyone.  Plus they have lots of common sense.  If you didn't know them and they called you, you would have no hint of what race they are.  Mainly because when they see a person, they don't see them as a "white, black, Hispanic, Asian etc..." just who they are by the way they act.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2014, 09:50:40 PM
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the "black" engineers and directors that are my friends at work.

I don't understand what this means. :confused:
Does this help.  They are successful because they get along and work with everyone.  Plus they have lots of common sense.  If you didn't know them and they called you, you would have no hint of what race they are.  Mainly because when they see a person, they don't see them as a "white, black, Hispanic, Asian etc..." just who they are by the way they act.

I liked this joke better when Stephen Colbert told it 8 years ago.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 10:31:11 PM
I'm not trying to insult anyone.  I just feel like you're more like the "black" engineers and directors that are my friends at work.

I don't understand what this means. :confused:
Does this help.  They are successful because they get along and work with everyone.  Plus they have lots of common sense.  If you didn't know them and they called you, you would have no hint of what race they are.  Mainly because when they see a person, they don't see them as a "white, black, Hispanic, Asian etc..." just who they are by the way they act.

:thumbs:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 22, 2014, 01:37:53 AM
what the eff happened in here?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: meow meow on January 22, 2014, 06:59:32 AM
what the eff happened in here?

Katdaddy happened, that's what
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 07:47:59 AM
this belongs in the pit
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: slobber on January 22, 2014, 07:57:40 AM
I came up with some very poetic words in this thread and it appears only bubbles appreciated them. Somebody else, please validate me and I don't even care what race you are.

I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2014, 07:59:36 AM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2014, 08:03:28 AM
I woke up my beautiful African wife.

I wish fatty was here to co-opt this part.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 22, 2014, 08:32:56 AM
I came up with some very poetic words in this thread and it appears only bubbles appreciated them. Somebody else, please validate me and I don't even care what race you are.

I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.


I appreciate you, dobber.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on January 22, 2014, 09:12:22 AM
I came up with some very poetic words in this thread and it appears only bubbles appreciated them. Somebody else, please validate me and I don't even care what race you are.

I don't say these things because I believe in the ‘brute' nature of men or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and yells at the television camera and reporter on the field of battle, proclaiming his greatness, victorious.


I appreciate you, dobber.  :cheers:

And I, for one, get the Lombardi-esque reference that is so very glorious during the weeks leading up to the battle for his trophy.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 22, 2014, 09:49:23 AM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro

that's pretty much every thread, though. and mocat is great.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 22, 2014, 12:18:08 PM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro

Mocat is a treasure
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: slobber on January 22, 2014, 01:35:51 PM
Madcat and Bookie Pimp validate me. Thanks guys! :emawkid:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 22, 2014, 01:40:46 PM
Katdaddy and Eastcat are definitely first team all-gE worst human selections. Sunny probably gets an honorable mention nod for his Jake hate.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 22, 2014, 01:46:34 PM
At least I'm not racist. :dunno:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 22, 2014, 01:47:00 PM
Also, no hate here, bro. :nono:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 22, 2014, 02:02:01 PM
At least I'm not racist. :dunno:

True. Eastcat is definitely a known racist.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: cDubya on January 22, 2014, 03:08:59 PM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro

This just might be signature shoutout material...
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 22, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro
4X4 pickup-em truck

This just might be signature shoutout material...
Now this is more accurate.  :driving:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Tobias on January 22, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
seven and MIR were having a great convo and then katdaddy just drives by and moons everybody in his camaro

Mocat is a treasure

qft
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 22, 2014, 09:02:37 PM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
You mean she's not American.  And does she have a passport?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
You mean she's not American.  And does she have a passport?

I forgot to even post in the master dating thread all the funky arrangements that had to be made when eating with MIR and his African wife.  Chicat thought the Indians were problematic...
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 22, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
You mean she's not American.  And does she have a passport?

I forgot to even post in the master dating thread all the funky arrangements that had to be made when eating with MIR and his African wife.  Chicat thought the Indians were problematic...
Is that how he introduces his wife to friends?  :dunno:  Do the places that they want to eat at named by nationality?  Racists like those type of places.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2014, 10:52:27 PM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
You mean she's not American.  And does she have a passport?

I forgot to even post in the master dating thread all the funky arrangements that had to be made when eating with MIR and his African wife.  Chicat thought the Indians were problematic...
Is that how he introduces his wife to friends?  :dunno:  Do the places that they want to eat at named by nationality?  Racists like those type of places.

Yep, and it's weird because it's like "yo, MIR, I've got rough ridin' eyes, I can see your wife's African."
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2014, 11:45:27 PM
I need katdaddy to come to a pak so I can introduce him to my brother who is in the Nation of Islam.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: kso_FAN on January 23, 2014, 06:35:07 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/richard-sherman-seahawks-postgame-rant-michael-crabtree-fox-deportes-1st-interview-nfc-championship-012314?related=3bda7c79-2052-4850-839f-21d305d1c60b
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2014, 08:01:16 AM
i enjoyed his an erin's embrace. 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: michigancat on January 23, 2014, 10:42:20 AM
Quote
"I studied the old-school game more than the new-school game. I'm old school and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Giving a true passionate speech after a game is old-school football. Playing press corner every play is old-school football. I guess I just haven't adjusted to the times."

:lol:

http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/3937/sherman-says-ali-is-his-inspiration
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 8manpick on January 23, 2014, 12:19:08 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/richard-sherman-seahawks-postgame-rant-michael-crabtree-fox-deportes-1st-interview-nfc-championship-012314?related=3bda7c79-2052-4850-839f-21d305d1c60b

:love:

i enjoyed his an erin's embrace. 

:love: :love:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: GoPowercat.com on January 23, 2014, 01:11:39 PM
i enjoyed his an erin's embrace.

I think we ALL enjoyed the "through the keyhole" nudes that surfaced online a couple years ago.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 23, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
i enjoyed his an erin's embrace.

I think we ALL enjoyed the "through the keyhole" nudes that surfaced online a couple years ago.

Meh, internet pron has ruined the novelty.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ben ji on January 23, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
I'll just leave this here  :whistle1:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12617276

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Why is Richard Sherman lying about his SAT scores? Post Rating (4 votes)

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http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1 &nid=1850663

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/footbal l/recruiting/player-Richard-Sherman-30260

From his scout, rivals, and other high school recruiting profiles: Sherman reports a 3.9 GPA/990 SAT/1060 retake. So a 21 and 23 ACT equivalent. Not even close to get into Stanford. He also got a 24 on his Wonderlic which is what an average secretary would score.

Now I see many media outlets reporting he received a 1200 and all the way up to a 1400 on his SAT, or the ACT equivalent of a 31. LOL.

Why is a man with below average SAT scores, average Wonderlic, and a communications degree (while being a privileged athlete) considered "brilliant"?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
I'll just leave this here  :whistle1:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12617276

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Why is Richard Sherman lying about his SAT scores? Post Rating (4 votes)

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http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1 &nid=1850663

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/footbal l/recruiting/player-Richard-Sherman-30260

From his scout, rivals, and other high school recruiting profiles: Sherman reports a 3.9 GPA/990 SAT/1060 retake. So a 21 and 23 ACT equivalent. Not even close to get into Stanford. He also got a 24 on his Wonderlic which is what an average secretary would score.

Now I see many media outlets reporting he received a 1200 and all the way up to a 1400 on his SAT, or the ACT equivalent of a 31. LOL.

Why is a man with below average SAT scores, average Wonderlic, and a communications degree (while being a privileged athlete) considered "brilliant"?

Man this is what people do, they just can't leave it be. For the record Stanford does not have special admissions standards for athletes, I'd seriously doubt they would make special exceptions for the 61st ranked cornerback.

Do you know that JO's rivals profile said that he had an offer from Coach Cal at Kentucky? There are a lot of people with a lot of access to those profiles.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Weird. JO's mom never mentioned that when I asked her all the teams that recruited JO. We got him over Rhode Island, thanks to mom.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
Yeah, that was also Kentucky, pre Calipari. he was a '08 recruit.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2014, 03:59:57 PM
Yeah, that was also Kentucky, pre Calipari. he was a '08 recruit.

Yeah you're right, point stands though, Billy G didn't give him an offer either
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2014, 04:36:09 PM
Yeah, that was also Kentucky, pre Calipari. he was a '08 recruit.

Yeah you're right, point stands though, Billy G didn't give him an offer either
:thumbs: Yeah, I get your point. I got to thinking after that post tho. I love seeing what schools recruited a player after they're gone. You forget and sometimes it surpises you. I love looking at Pullen's list.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 23, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
Holy crap  :ROFL: I hope no one expected me to be mad. Man katdaddy with an all-timer. I laughed so loudly reading that I woke up my beautiful African wife. Thanks for the laughs you wonderful dumbfuck.
You mean she's not American.  And does she have a passport?

I forgot to even post in the master dating thread all the funky arrangements that had to be made when eating with MIR and his African wife.  Chicat thought the Indians were problematic...
Is that how he introduces his wife to friends?  :dunno:  Do the places that they want to eat at named by nationality?  Racists like those type of places.

Yep, and it's weird because it's like "yo, MIR, I've got rough ridin' eyes, I can see your wife's African."
I'm just a dumbfuck, but GD that's funny.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 23, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
The perplexing question is MIR a racist. 
Maybe this guy has the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoMrBc1XdMM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
The perplexing question is MIR a racist. 
Maybe this guy has the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoMrBc1XdMM&feature=player_embedded

Just for my own edification can you quote a post or two of mine that lead you to blow my cover as a racist? I thought I was doing a good job of hiding it but you saw right through me. What gave it away?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: meow meow on January 23, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
Steve Dave coach up your guy katdaddy please.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 23, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 23, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
I would just like to take a moment to recognize BushBlister for overachieving on this thread title.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 23, 2014, 06:42:06 PM
The perplexing question is MIR a racist. 
Maybe this guy has the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoMrBc1XdMM&feature=player_embedded

Just for my own edification can you quote a post or two of mine that lead you to blow my cover as a racist? I thought I was doing a good job of hiding it but you saw right through me. What gave it away?
Just the fact you bring up racism in most of the threads you post in might be a cue.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 23, 2014, 06:46:34 PM
If MIR hadn't insisted on telling every single person in stillwater that he was black that time we all went down a few years ago, we probably wouldn't have been told by the Wendy's front counter lady that we needed to get him to the kansas border by sundown.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 23, 2014, 06:49:42 PM
If MIR hadn't insisted on telling every single person in stillwater that he was black that time we all went down a few years ago, we probably wouldn't have been told by the Wendy's front counter lady that we needed to get him to the kansas border by sundown.
Redneck roundup?!?!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 23, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.

Did MIR ever face off with fatty on the tennis court?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 23, 2014, 07:08:37 PM
If MIR hadn't insisted on telling every single person in stillwater that he was black that time we all went down a few years ago, we probably wouldn't have been told by the Wendy's front counter lady that we needed to get him to the kansas border by sundown.

I was an absolute disaster in Stillwater and no one said crap.  Just proof that the entire state of Oklahoma is like 1800's Mississippi
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2014, 07:44:45 PM
The perplexing question is MIR a racist. 
Maybe this guy has the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoMrBc1XdMM&feature=player_embedded

Just for my own edification can you quote a post or two of mine that lead you to blow my cover as a racist? I thought I was doing a good job of hiding it but you saw right through me. What gave it away?
Just the fact you bring up racism in most of the threads you post in might be a cue.

So no quotes pointing to my racism? I bring up racism in most threads I post in so it should be easy.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.

I got black balled from that tournament, you would think in this day and age people wouldn't be so scared of a strong black man
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
The perplexing question is MIR a racist. 
Maybe this guy has the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoMrBc1XdMM&feature=player_embedded

Just for my own edification can you quote a post or two of mine that lead you to blow my cover as a racist? I thought I was doing a good job of hiding it but you saw right through me. What gave it away?
Just the fact you bring up racism in most of the threads you post in might be a cue.

So no quotes pointing to my racism? I bring up racism in most threads I post in so it should be easy.

 :users: hurry up katdaddy
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Demo158 on January 24, 2014, 01:13:47 PM
MakeItRain is not a racist Katdaddy, he is a race-baiter. There is a difference between the two.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 24, 2014, 01:21:26 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
MakeItRain is not a racist Katdaddy, he is a race-baiter. There is a difference between the two.

MIR has a different point of view being a black man in middle America that many on the board cannot understand.  Not to speak on his behalf, but its not hard to imagine he sees the world differently due to experiences that many of us cannot relate to.  Completely making up numbers here, but say 90% of the world is not racist.  The remaining 10% is easily ignored and marginalized by the 90% of the majority race as insignificant and outliers as we don't have to deal with their crap.  You can bet the 10% are more visible, shitty, and significant to the minority race though.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 24, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist

Well like 99% of the world makes less than a KCMO teacher.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
MakeItRain is not a racist Katdaddy, he is a race-baiter. There is a difference between the two.

Yes, for instance:

Telling someone they are a racist because you don't agree with or understand with their viewpoints could possibly be construed as race baiting.

Calling someone a race baiter because you don't care to hear or read opinions from that of another race is racist.

Bang up observation demo
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 24, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist

Can confirm by watching Italian/Russian soccer. :sdeek:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 24, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist

man i hope not. is this really true?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2014, 01:37:21 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist

Absolutely, I was just using numbers that even the "racism is dead, we have a black president" crowd would find hard to argue with
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 24, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
MakeItRain is not a racist Katdaddy, he is a race-baiter. There is a difference between the two.

Yes, for instance:

Telling someone they are a racist because you don't agree with or understand with their viewpoints could possibly be construed as race baiting.

Calling someone a race baiter because you don't care to hear or read opinions from that of another race is racist.

Bang up observation demo
It's easy to spot a racist. I think it's hard to do over a message board.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Tobias on January 24, 2014, 01:40:55 PM
It's easy to spot a racist. I think it's hard to do over a message board.

i think it's easier on a message board because people will say stupid crap they never would to another person's face
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 01:42:03 PM
MakeItRain is not a racist Katdaddy, he is a race-baiter. There is a difference between the two.

MIR has a different point of view being a black man in middle America that many on the board cannot understand.  Not to speak on his behalf, but its not hard to imagine he sees the world differently due to experiences that many of us cannot relate to.  Completely making up numbers here, but say 90% of the world is not racist.  The remaining 10% is easily ignored and marginalized by the 90% of the majority race as insignificant and outliers as we don't have to deal with their crap.  You can bet the 10% are more visible, shitty, and significant to the minority race though.

Good post. I'd say though I don't really care about the 10% that are racist, I'm more dismayed by the 75% that don't understand race but refuse to try to understand how others think and feel.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 24, 2014, 01:44:27 PM
MIR race-baits and doesn't even realize he's doing it.  I went with him to that tourney in KC when the 'cats played gonzaga and duke.  We were walking across a street and MIR somehow riled up a guy to roll down his window as he was driving by and yell "eff you, brotha man" at us.  NO WAY does that happen to me if I'm walking with non-race-bait'r Gooch or somebody.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 24, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
sounds like MIR is more of a racist-baiter than a race-baiter
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 24, 2014, 01:51:05 PM
It's easy to spot a racist. I think it's hard to do over a message board.

i think it's easier on a message board because people will say stupid crap they never would to another person's face

I've never posted anything stupid. :shy:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Tobias on January 24, 2014, 01:51:35 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 02:00:43 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint, caught a nice big green bay packers fan though
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2014, 03:53:29 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint

he is too busy  :Booty Shake: everybody and doing donuts in the T-top
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 24, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint

he is too busy  :Booty Shake: everybody and doing donuts in the T-top

what album is he listening to?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
I, for one, appreciate mir's points of view. I usually don't agree, but it's nice to have alternative viewpoints to help shape your opinions, and often I hadn't even thought of what he points out.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 24, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint

he is too busy  :Booty Shake: everybody and doing donuts in the T-top

what album is he listening to?
Ted Nugent
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint

he is too busy  :Booty Shake: everybody and doing donuts in the T-top

what album is he listening to?

Def whitesnake
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MadCat on January 24, 2014, 04:27:12 PM
looks like we're gonna need to do the :rflush: equivalent of :opcat: and :bait:

I was fishing for katdaddy but he showed surprising restraint

he is too busy  :Booty Shake: everybody and doing donuts in the T-top

what album is he listening to?

Def whitesnake
That was my first answer.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 24, 2014, 05:53:26 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.

I got black balled from that tournament, you would think in this day and age people wouldn't be so scared of a strong black man

See what I mean?  Leave it to MIR to describe something as "black balled."
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 24, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.

I got black balled from that tournament, you would think in this day and age people wouldn't be so scared of a strong black man

See what I mean?  Leave it to MIR to describe something as "black balled."

At least he didn't discriminate by pluralizing it.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 06:26:07 PM
I, for one, appreciate mir's points of view. I usually don't agree, but it's nice to have alternative viewpoints to help shape your opinions, and often I hadn't even thought of what he points out.
thanks bro
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 24, 2014, 06:29:18 PM
They fined him?

 :flush:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
They fined him?

 :flush:

He got fined for the choke sign
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: sunny_cat on January 24, 2014, 07:08:25 PM
They fined him?

 :flush:

He got fined for the choke sign

That would make sense. That's not what I saw, but I definitely believe you.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 24, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
They fined him?

 :flush:

He got fined for the choke sign

Okay.  That's definitely fair then.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 24, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was when MIR invited all of us to watch him in one of his weekend tennis tournaments.  We were all there early in our specially made MIR tennisPAK t-shirts, so it was pretty clear who we were supporting.  He pretty much cruised through the bracket, saying things to his opponents that would make Sherman blush and doing heel stuff that nicname only dreams about.  We, by proxy, become pariahs among the spectators.  To top it all off, MIR took to the winner's podium and did the Tommie Smith gloved fist thing while they played a PE song I'm told he forced some intern to put on the PA system.  Talk about awkward.  He's got a hell of a kick serve, tho.

I got black balled from that tournament, you would think in this day and age people wouldn't be so scared of a strong black man
Welp, I was starting to have doubts, but now I'm convinced. 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Katpappy on January 24, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
Ah crap, I should have read the last two pages before posting...LukeDaddy.  :blush:
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on January 26, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeiDViNh9H8
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Headinjun on January 26, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
That's great. 

Speaking of, I miss ol macho man. 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: puniraptor on January 26, 2014, 10:11:21 PM
way more than 10% of the world is racist

man i hope not. is this really true?

I wonder what percent of the world has never met someone of another race. Probly more than 10.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: eastcat on January 27, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
Demaryius Thomas is the fastest receiver richard the runt has been matched up with this year, nearly 1/5th of a second faster in the 40. He'll probably go for 3 TD's.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Institutional Control on March 14, 2014, 09:56:32 AM
Demaryius Thomas is the fastest receiver richard the runt has been matched up with this year, nearly 1/5th of a second faster in the 40. He'll probably go for 3 TD's.
I came to post a link to deadspin but first I need to LOL this post.

LOL
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Institutional Control on March 14, 2014, 09:56:42 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-cant-stop-beefing-with-nfl-players-on-1543733825?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: 'taterblast on April 06, 2014, 07:25:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkjiKNGIAAIoPZ5.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trogdor on May 02, 2014, 08:53:05 AM
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/10870890/seahawks-richard-sherman-sends-tv-rant-ad-swedish-cancer-institute&ex_cid=sportscenter
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SdK on May 24, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/10870890/seahawks-richard-sherman-sends-tv-rant-ad-swedish-cancer-institute&ex_cid=sportscenter

Disappointing.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SdK on May 25, 2014, 10:26:13 PM
Is it wrong to be intimidated by or feel fear for a extremely strong, angry man, yelling into a camera?

Definitely a lot of racism came out in the reaction to his interview. I fully support his trash talking, his high entertainment, in addition to his skills on the field. He is clearly a very witty guy based upon things I've read on twitter, and his ability to refute all comers. I appreciate it a lot and back in HS after I would block a shot or score, I'd run back down the yelling (usually just a loud exclamation of YEAH! or something) I'd also stare down the person on the other team that I blocked or scored on. I love the passion, the trash talk, and mental aspect of the game.

I just don't buy that is inherently based upon race to have a negative reaction to the Sherman. I don't buy that a black player needs to act a certain way to be loved. I actually struggle to find a black player that I loved that didn't show a lot of emotion on the field of play and in turn tend to hate the white players who showboat and talk crap.

Racism is a live and well in America. I think you can be afraid or fear someone yelling when their emotions are at a high level and it not be due to race.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SdK on May 25, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Also, when I think "white, arrogant, taunting" I think Bill Romanowski
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
Also, when I think "white, arrogant, taunting" I think Bill Romanowski

jeremy shocky

kyle turley

bill laimbeer
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Also, when I think "white, arrogant, taunting" I think Bill Romanowski

jeremy shocky

kyle turley

bill laimbeer

richie incognito.

i see that the above players are pretty consistently hated, so that may have been your point

Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: SdK on May 27, 2014, 07:11:21 PM
It was. :D
Title: Re: Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean
Post by: Trim on July 09, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
Quote
I hope to play him every year for the rest of my career and choke him out.

:love:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/07/richard-sherman-michael-crabtree