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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: KITNfury on January 17, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
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What are your thoughts?
They twist off a cap of beer and hand it to you, worth a buck or two?
Do you think you get better service if you tip well?
Personally I haven't found that tipping well, or under tipping does anything for my service, but I usually still give a dollar per drink or thereabouts. I've started to rethink tipping a dollar if I get cheap swill in a bottle. $1 for twisting off a top is prolly too much. Maybe $1 every other beer.
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If you're drinking liquor, tipping well generally helps get stronger pours.
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usually:
at least a dollar, or ~%20 if buying an "expensive" drink or a round of drinks
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
I think this is a very reasonable approach to it.
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Shots at Stevesie. Kick his ass, man!
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
IME, I've never ever noticed a difference in waiting for my next drink regardless if I tip right away or not.
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Stevesie60 convinced me that since people don't tip coffee people, you shouldn't tip bartenders. So yeah, I don't tip.
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Stevesie60 convinced me that since people don't tip coffee people, you shouldn't tip bartenders. So yeah, I don't tip.
It really makes you think, right? I mean, anyone who has ever watched Reservoir Dogs has to reconsider tipping someone just because their hourly wage blows and it's some kind of societal norm. Like, earn that tip.
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
IME, I've never ever noticed a difference in waiting for my next drink regardless if I tip right away or not.
IME, ive noticed the exact opposite. I tip while theyre looking at me so they know I 'preciate them.
FTR, I tip stevesie every time because buds! :D
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20% on every bill or a dollar per drink with cash. If you can't do that, sit the eff at home.
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20% on every bill or a dollar per drink with cash. If you can't do that, sit the eff at home.
I'm not anti-tip, but explain why you should do that.
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
I think this is a very reasonable approach to it.
Weirdly enough I find myself doing that almost exact model without trying. Agreed on the reasonableness of this.
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20% on every bill or a dollar per drink with cash. If you can't do that, sit the eff at home.
I'm not anti-tip, but explain why you should do that.
I think if you've worked in the industry it just feels natural. I guess I feel guilty, cheap, douche baggish if I didn't. I also like helping out younger ppl, cause I've been where they are and they have to take and deal with a lot of crap. Ppl are unappreciative assholes and like to walk all over servers.
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That's just my opinion tho.
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20% on every bill or a dollar per drink with cash. If you can't do that, sit the eff at home.
I'm not anti-tip, but explain why you should do that.
I think if you've worked in the industry it just feels natural. I guess I feel guilty, cheap, douche baggish if I didn't. I also like helping out younger ppl, cause I've been where they are and they have to take and deal with a lot of crap. Ppl are unappreciative assholes and like to walk all over servers.
Well, I'm courteous to all servers, however I'm just starting to rethink my tipping status quo. For instance, if I walk past a beggar, I do not give 2 shits, he ain't getting any money. If I walk past some homeless dude trying to play some drums on an empty bucket or something, he'll prolly get a few bucks.
Some schmo walks half assedly to the beer cooler, pulls out a beer and hands it to me and I owe him a buck on top of the beer? Not sure any more. If he does a cartwheel or some Cocktails and Dreams crap, he's gonna get a nice tip.
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I tip more when the other people in my party are being loud a-holes.
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I tip more when the other people in my party are being loud a-holes.
Valid reason to tip well.
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$1 per drink or 25% of the tab. You must visit bars that aren't very busy if you've never noticed a difference. I tend to open tabs a lot (and occassionally leave them open over night :bang:)
Same rules apply to waiters/waitresses.
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holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink? :sdeek:
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
Most good places have female bartenders now and I am super hot so this theory works both ways.
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If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
:lol:
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
Most good places have female bartenders now and I am super hot so this theory works both ways.
I can't tell you the last time I paid for a drink at Sol. :gocho:
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
TownieCat, you are right. The hottest person in your group should be the one sent to the bar while everyone else kicks in the cash for the round.
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Most bartenders are living off their tips, so don't be a cheapskate you dicks. Also I've made friends with most of the service people at places I frequent so I end up over-tipping a lot of the time. If I'm in a place where I don't know them I tip $1 a drink or sometimes $2 if it has red bull. Anything more than 2 drinks and I try to shoot for 20%. If you are paying cash you will tip more this way, so it's better to just run a tab and figure the 20%.
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leave your card at the bar and let them tip themselves what they deem just. i'm not sure it's the most responsible approach but it's how i usually handle the issue.
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I tip more when the other people in my party are being loud a-holes.
WTF?
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
TownieCat, you are right. The hottest person in your group should be the one sent to the bar while everyone else kicks in the cash for the round.
:facepalm:
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Most bartenders are living off their tips, so don't be a cheapskate you dicks. Also I've made friends with most of the service people at places I frequent so I end up over-tipping a lot of the time. If I'm in a place where I don't know them I tip $1 a drink or sometimes $2 if it has red bull. Anything more than 2 drinks and I try to shoot for 20%. If you are paying cash you will tip more this way, so it's better to just run a tab and figure the 20%.
There are lots of low paying jobs that don't get tips from you I'm willing to bet.
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
TownieCat, you are right. The hottest person in your group should be the one sent to the bar while everyone else kicks in the cash for the round.
:facepalm:
totally doesn't get it. sad really. :blindfold:
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Most bartenders are living off their tips, so don't be a cheapskate you dicks. Also I've made friends with most of the service people at places I frequent so I end up over-tipping a lot of the time. If I'm in a place where I don't know them I tip $1 a drink or sometimes $2 if it has red bull. Anything more than 2 drinks and I try to shoot for 20%. If you are paying cash you will tip more this way, so it's better to just run a tab and figure the 20%.
There are lots of low paying jobs that don't get tips from you I'm willing to bet.
No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.
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20% on every bill or a dollar per drink with cash. If you can't do that, sit the eff at home.
That's how I do it. I'm usually running a tab. I tend to frequent the same places. So I make sure to tip well consistently.
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If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.
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Being a poor tipper reflects on you as a selfish miserly person.
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If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.
Yep.
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leave your card at the bar and let them tip themselves what they deem just. i'm not sure it's the most responsible approach but it's how i usually handle the issue.
:runaway:
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Being a poor tipper reflects on you as a selfish miserly person.
This is absolutely true
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Being a poor tipper reflects on you as a selfish miserly person.
When I don't tip, I try to leave a note about the server's personal life as to why I didn't tip. That way I don't come across as selfish and miserly
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tipping is immoral. tipping someone to fetch you a beer is not only immoral, but also stupid. tipping for mixed drinks is just immoral.
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I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper
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Being a poor tipper reflects on you as a selfish miserly person.
When I don't tip, I try to leave a note about the server's personal life as to why I didn't tip. That way I don't come across as selfish and miserly
That also reflects on you on how you handle poor service.
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I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper
This doesn't surprise me Winters, you're one of the good ones.
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When you go to a place that you frequent and the first round is mysteriously free for your group, it is a great idea to throw a $20 in the tip jar. I know this because I roomed with 5 bartenders in college and that $20 tip got me a lot of free drinks and food.
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free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%). a small part of the immorality of tipping.
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I love when sys just digs his heels in even harder
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holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink? :sdeek:
I mean, I don't even. What a bunch of cheap pricks in this thread huh Rusty.
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Being a poor tipper reflects on you as a selfish miserly person.
I've seen this workout good buddy! :cheers:
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free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%). a small part of the immorality of tipping.
What would Jon Taffer think about all this?
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free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%). a small part of the immorality of tipping.
What would Jon Taffer think about all this?
I think this is similar to a story my Canadian friend told me. He and his Canadian friends would go the grocery store when they were in college and fill the cart up with food, including some high end steaks. This girl they (Canadian friends) knew would swipe everything across the scanner except she would have her fingers over the bar codes when she did the steaks. My Canadian friend said he still feels guilty about this.
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free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%). a small part of the immorality of tipping.
What would Jon Taffer think about all this?
get out the bevintel, and see who's STEALING
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I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper
You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more. :D
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I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...
every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink
I think this is very reasonable. It depends on the place though. If it's a place I frequent, I will tip more. If it's a happy hour special where stuff is ridiculously cheap, I'll tip on every drink. I don't think not tipping on every drink makes you a "cheap, miserable eff" at all. If I have change from a drink, I'll tip that every time, regardless of the drink.
I don't frequent coffee shops, so I don't know about tipping etiquette there. I I just order a coffee, how much am I supposed to tip?
I've also never worked in the service industry, so if I'm being an bad person without knowing it, please let me know.
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If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.
I usually just tip straigh 20%, maybe a little more or less for rounding when using cash. However, when I get super drunk I'm not sure how I tip. I often wake up wondering if I tipped well, or even paid my bill.
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holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink? :sdeek:
It's a whole lot more surprising that so many people actually still use cash, imo.
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holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink? :sdeek:
It's a whole lot more surprising that so many people actually still use cash, imo.
Well, yeah, but that's not as :sdeek:y
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I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper
You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more. :D
What about both? :surprised:
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I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper
You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more. :D
What about both? :surprised:
seven pulls this move all the time.
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:gocho:
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Most bartenders are living off their tips, so don't be a cheapskate you dicks. Also I've made friends with most of the service people at places I frequent so I end up over-tipping a lot of the time. If I'm in a place where I don't know them I tip $1 a drink or sometimes $2 if it has red bull. Anything more than 2 drinks and I try to shoot for 20%. If you are paying cash you will tip more this way, so it's better to just run a tab and figure the 20%.
There are lots of low paying jobs that don't get tips from you I'm willing to bet.
No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.
But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.
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No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.
But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?
the minimum wage applies to food servers, just like it does everyone else.
the idea that people tip servers based on how much they make and some sense of injustice concerning that wage is laughable. there are millions of people employed in the us who make less, work harder, and receive no tips.
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For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)
I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.
If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.
This. Where is she going?
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#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.
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#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.
jesus christ
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No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.
But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?
the minimum wage applies to food servers, just like it does everyone else.
the idea that people tip servers based on how much they make and some sense of injustice concerning that wage is laughable. there are millions of people employed in the us who make less, work harder, and receive no tips.
then those people should quit their jobs and become servers. boom. end of thread. daris wins. sys goes home sad.
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.
if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.
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#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.
jesus christ
Why should I pay someone extra because they did their job? Very silly idea.
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#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.
jesus christ
Why should I pay someone extra because they did their job? Very silly idea.
Tipping really shouldn't be so hard. The service was good, you leave a token of your appreciation, and everyone is happy. Jmo, tho.
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.
if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.
I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.
if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.
I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.
Your ideas aren't wrong they just don't jive with reality. Take it up with reality.
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You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.
True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.
if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.
I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.
Your ideas aren't wrong they just don't jive with reality. Take it up with reality.
However I make my own reality in this case.
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If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.
This is correct.
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free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%). a small part of the immorality of tipping.
Getting free drinks is overrated. I have had bartender friends who have offered them and I almost always refuse, or demand that they ring them up. For one, it doesn't save me any money. If you give me $11 in free drinks, I'm just going to transfer the drink cost over to your tip - so now you're getting $11 from me rather than the owner. So in reality, a bartender friend who offers you a free drink isn't offering you anything at all; rather, they are making a SELFISH and IMMORAL decision!
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do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.
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do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.
usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
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yes. the delivery driver is getting completely screwed by the company he/she works for, and is using his/her own vehicle and gasoline to bring your lazy ass food.
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I'm convinced sys and jrake are the same person
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I'm convinced sys and jrake are the same person
i aspire to be the TOTAL OPPOSITE of sys, though it would be fun to be 9-feet tall for a day.
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do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.
usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
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I tip the Jimmy Johns delivery person $4 every time I make them drive the 5 blocks to my house. It's very much worth it to me.
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do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.
usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
ok. well, like, I guess I was meaning relative to the amount of work theyre doing. the 8 pizzas are DEFINITELY heavier than just a single pizza, but I think the driving is more work than the actual carrying of pizzas. they get compensated by the pizza company for their gas mileage, so me tipping on top of that is just for their work (a majority of which is the driving). im not a bad person for tipping the same amount. if it takes the guy two trips from his car to bring me all the pizza, sure, ill tip more. but if hes carrying it all in that little plastic oven thing, im tipping $2-3. waiters and bartenders do work at different times and take care of me every time, and I usually tip them $1 for the drink or 20% of the bill. pizza guy does work once, so he gets tipped for that.
and I usually go pick up my pizzas because im not lazy. if I order pizza, its because im drunk and cant drive, or people are over at my place.
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do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.
usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
ok. well, like, I guess I was meaning relative to the amount of work theyre doing. the 8 pizzas are DEFINITELY heavier than just a single pizza, but I think the driving is more work than the actual carrying of pizzas. they get compensated by the pizza company for their gas mileage, so me tipping on top of that is just for their work (a majority of which is the driving). im not a bad person for tipping the same amount. if it takes the guy two trips from his car to bring me all the pizza, sure, ill tip more. but if hes carrying it all in that little plastic oven thing, im tipping $2-3. waiters and bartenders do work at different times and take care of me every time, and I usually tip them $1 for the drink or 20% of the bill. pizza guy does work once, so he gets tipped for that.
and I usually go pick up my pizzas because im not lazy. if I order pizza, its because im drunk and cant drive, or people are over at my place.
they don't get compensated. It's minimum wage plus tips only. That "delivery fee" you get charged doesn't go to the driver at all.
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
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A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.
i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.
so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.
and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.
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I don't think your story happened, rake, because you didn't post a thread here asking for advice on how much or if to tip the mailman
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A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.
i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.
so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.
and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.
you pay taxes for the postal service...
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I don't think your story happened, rake, because you didn't post a thread here asking for advice on how much or if to tip the mailman
you couldn't be more wrong. because it just so happens that i have a ton of respect for WARRIORS like mail men and newspaper delivery people, as a former paper boy myself. when i was a kid, i had a paper route, and my neighborhood did NOT take care of me. i will never forget these people.
every morning, around 4:45 a.m., i would wake up, bundle my 31 newspapers, tie a rubber band around them and place the papers in the desired location - tucked inside the mail box; inside the door; on the porch under the mat; and so on. one guy made me walk through his backyard, past a barking dog, and then had me ENTER HIS HOUSE so that his paper could be placed on a wooden bench.
i was 12 years old, out battling the elements, turning down sleep overs and video-game tournaments with my friends on weekends so that these grumpy old folks could read their Sunday funnies and find out, at the earliest possible time, that our world was under attack or that we were headed to war or that Bill Clinton did something terrible.
so don't tell me my story is made up because it isn't! :angry:
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you pay taxes for the postal service...
very informative! i hadn't considered that. :frown:
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your neurosis all makes sense now..
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A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"
if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.
i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.
so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.
and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.
Awful comparison. First, mail carriers make on average over $50K per year. Very doubtful that there are a lot of pizza delivery guys making that kind of dough.
Also, I don't order most of the mail I receive. If anyone should tip it should be the sender.
And how many times does the pizza guy deliver to every house on your street? Never. They're making a special trip just for you. Mail carriers deliver to literally every house on your street 6 days a week.
Oh, and the tax thing.
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Kick his ass, TownieCat
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Awful comparison.
i think i'm on tilt. this is embarrassing.
i'm getting owned right now.
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.
not really. unless youre saying I should tip for picking up a pizza (or 8), what happens before the delivery is irrelevant to my tip.
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also if you are paying cash and the driver is the one that answers the phone there is a 95% chance they will make the pizza off the books and pocket all the money
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does anyone order pizza by phone though?
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also if you are paying cash and the driver is the one that answers the phone there is a 95% chance they will make the pizza off the books and pocket all the money
well i never
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.
not really. unless youre saying I should tip for picking up a pizza (or 8), what happens before the delivery is irrelevant to my tip.
You wrote a really long paragraph about the amount of work they do making the number of pizzas irrelevant to your tip. I'm saying the number of pizzas is relevant to the amount of work they do because that affects just about everything except the operating of a car.
But as always, do whatever you want. The delivery guy (OR GIRL!) will whatever he (OR SHE!) wants too.
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Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.
then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.
not really. unless youre saying I should tip for picking up a pizza (or 8), what happens before the delivery is irrelevant to my tip.
You wrote a really long paragraph about the amount of work they do making the number of pizzas irrelevant to your tip. I'm saying the number of pizzas is relevant to the amount of work they do because that affects just about everything except the operating of a car.
But as always, do whatever you want. The delivery guy (OR GIRL!) will whatever he (OR SHE!) wants too.
usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
no, I said the amount of work they do delivering the pizza was irrelevant to my tip. until you told me the delivery guy/girl is the one slicing my pizza, I had no idea. but yeah, I never order 8 pizzas anyways. usually its just a zombie version of TTHOTUC ordering a single large pizza at 3 am.
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What about takeout orders at places like Applebee's, BWW, etc.? Tip or no?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYlyl-ZKLC4
tonya!
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What about takeout orders at places like Applebee's, BWW, etc.? Tip or no?
I usually tip a buck or two. Seems weird that so many people are so cheap.
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What about takeout orders at places like Applebee's, BWW, etc.? Tip or no?
no
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I tip delivery drivers 20% every time. If anything, they deserve more than waiters.
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no, I said the amount of work they do delivering the pizza was irrelevant to my tip. until you told me the delivery guy/girl is the one slicing my pizza, I had no idea. but yeah, I never order 8 pizzas anyways. usually its just a zombie version of TTHOTUC ordering a single large pizza at 3 am.
It won't be long before you can order some frozen pizzas delivered by amazon drone and then you can skip the tipping altogether. Don't forget to order a pizza slicer too.
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no, I said the amount of work they do delivering the pizza was irrelevant to my tip. until you told me the delivery guy/girl is the one slicing my pizza, I had no idea. but yeah, I never order 8 pizzas anyways. usually its just a zombie version of TTHOTUC ordering a single large pizza at 3 am.
It won't be long before you can order some frozen pizzas delivered by amazon drone and then you can skip the tipping altogether. Don't forget to order a pizza slicer too.
zombie TTHOTUC is going to be amazon drone's #1 customer.
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does anyone order pizza by phone though?
pain in the ass, but pizza shuttle doesn't have online ordering :frown:
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I'm convinced sys and jrake are the same person
i aspire to be the TOTAL OPPOSITE of sys, though it would be fun to be 9-feet tall for a day.
i also aspire to be the opposite of jrake, but i am actually fairly similar. jrake is the part of me that i hate.
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does anyone order pizza by phone though?
pain in the ass, but pizza shuttle doesn't have online ordering :frown:
IMO online ordering is more of a pain in the ass than using the phone :dunno:
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you pay taxes for the postal service...
no you don't. btw, i agree w. jrake on how amazing the usps is.
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does anyone order pizza by phone though?
pain in the ass, but pizza shuttle doesn't have online ordering :frown:
IMO online ordering is more of a pain in the ass than using the phone :dunno:
:lol:
good joke TC
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I tip delivery drivers 20% every time. If anything, they deserve more than waiters.
absolutely. but less than the guys that come and haul my disgusting trash away from my house.
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I tip delivery drivers 20% every time. If anything, they deserve more than waiters.
absolutely. but less than the guys that come and haul my disgusting trash away from my house.
no
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you pay taxes for the postal service...
no you don't. btw, i agree w. jrake on how amazing the usps is.
:sdeek: youre right, no taxes for the USPS since the 80's.
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does anyone order pizza by phone though?
pain in the ass, but pizza shuttle doesn't have online ordering :frown:
IMO online ordering is more of a pain in the ass than using the phone :dunno:
:lol:
good joke TC
I don't do it enough that I have an account set up with any of the major chains. Probably makes a difference.
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Waiting to hear why tipping is immoral. Maybe I missed it.
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Waiting to hear why tipping is immoral. Maybe I missed it.
it's all about class, social status, aristocracy.
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Waiting to hear why tipping is immoral. Maybe I missed it.
it's all about class, social status, aristocracy.
Hmmm...I must be too low in the caste system to get it.
I would say our system of tipping is superior to Europe's system. Dining out or drinking there is a mess.
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Pizza delivery drivers usually get a set amount for each delivery, like 75 cents or something (maybe more nowadays). If you order during a really busy time they are probably not cutting your pizza (but they probably are at least making sure you have the correct number of pizzas and bringing you the cheese and pepper packets); but if you order late at night they most likely are cutting your pizza because fewer employees working at that time means everyone does a little extra.
Also, 8 pizzas are a lot harder to carry than 1 because only 4 pizzas fit into one of those heated poach things and carrying 2 of them is a bitch.
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Pizza delivery drivers usually get a set amount for each delivery, like 75 cents or something (maybe more nowadays). If you order during a really busy time they are probably not cutting your pizza (but they probably are at least making sure you have the correct number of pizzas and bringing you the cheese and pepper packets); but if you order late at night they most likely are cutting your pizza because fewer employees working at that time means everyone does a little extra.
Also, 8 pizzas are a lot harder to carry than 1 because only 4 pizzas fit into one of those heated poach things and carrying 2 of them is a bitch.
:D
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I would say our system of tipping is superior to Europe's system. Dining out or drinking there is a mess.
europe is a diverse place. i personally have preferred eating in european (and mexican) restaurants to american. i don't find eating out at most american restaurants at all enjoyable.
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wait, people don't tip coffee people? i always do.
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what about people that tip the airport shuttle bus driver? dumb.
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I would say our system of tipping is superior to Europe's system. Dining out or drinking there is a mess.
europe is a diverse place. i personally have preferred eating in european (and mexican) restaurants to american. i don't find eating out at most american restaurants at all enjoyable.
I just hate waiting forever for everything. I should be greeted within 5 minutes of being seated, I should be brought my first drink within minutes of ordering it, and I should be offered a replacement before it's empty.
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Also, I don't tip my trash collector people because where would I leave the tip??
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I would say our system of tipping is superior to Europe's system. Dining out or drinking there is a mess.
say whaaaaaat :sdeek:
no tipping ever seems less messy than fumbling around trying to figure out when to do it and when not do it
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I would say our system of tipping is superior to Europe's system. Dining out or drinking there is a mess.
say whaaaaaat :sdeek:
no tipping ever seems less messy than fumbling around trying to figure out when to do it and when not do it
Sure it may seem counter intuitive, but it's true. You want to get in, get drunk, and get on with your life, the US is the place to go. I can't imagine being a bar or restaurant owner in Europe, paying full salaries and benefits to people who don't even attempt to bust their ass for you.
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oh ok, so when you said "dining out or drinking" you meant "owning or operating a restaurant or bar"
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oh ok, so when you said "dining out or drinking" you meant "owning or operating a restaurant or bar"
I argue that our system is superior for the client, the staff, and the owner.
EDIT: Well maybe not the staff but who cares about the peasants ya know?
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I should be greeted within 5 minutes of being seated, I should be brought my first drink within minutes of ordering it, and I should be offered a replacement before it's empty.
americans don't like to request a waiter's attention. i understand that, i find it uncomfortable myself. luckily i normally eat with someone who grew up in a different cultural milieu, and who doesn't find it at all uncomfortable.
and i detest having waiters constantly asking if i'm content, how my food tastes, if i need anything, etc. so it's the best of both worlds for me.
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are there any examples of U.S. full service restaurants that do not allow tipping?
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I should be greeted within 5 minutes of being seated, I should be brought my first drink within minutes of ordering it, and I should be offered a replacement before it's empty.
americans don't like to request a waiter's attention. i understand that, i find it uncomfortable myself. luckily i normally eat with someone who grew up in a different cultural milieu, and who doesn't find it at all uncomfortable.
and i detest having waiters constantly asking if i'm content, how my food tastes, if i need anything, etc. so it's the best of both worlds for me.
yes
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I tip for carryout. I tip the delivery driver. I tip the airport shuttle guy/gal if they are quick and friendly but not annoying.
I tip bartenders a buck per drink or about 20% if I run a tab.
I tip 10-15% at restaurants if I get poor service. If I get good service or better, then 20% plus.
If my wife drinks water, I always add in a few extra dollars to the bill when I figure the tip. Delivering water takes just as much time as delivering a diet coke or a beer.
I tip my hair cutting lady 20% for each cut and I throw in an extra $20 for my last haircut before Christmas.
I tip the garbage man if I happen to see him/her within the last couple weeks of the year. Same as the mailman, but I don't worry about it if I miss them.
That about sums up the tipping for dobber.
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I tip for carryout. I tip the delivery driver. I tip the airport shuttle guy/gal if they are quick and friendly but not annoying.
I tip bartenders a buck per drink or about 20% if I run a tab.
I tip 10-15% at restaurants if I get poor service. If I get good service or better, then 20% plus.
If my wife drinks water, I always add in a few extra dollars to the bill when I figure the tip. Delivering water takes just as much time as delivering a diet coke or a beer.
I tip my hair cutting lady 20% for each cut and I throw in an extra $20 for my last haircut before Christmas.
I tip the garbage man if I happen to see him/her within the last couple weeks of the year. Same as the mailman, but I don't worry about it if I miss them.
That about sums up the tipping for dobber.
You are a good person, dobber.
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are there any examples of U.S. full service restaurants that do not allow tipping?
Was going to say this place but I guess they just couldn't stop elite EMAWs from tipping.
http://housing.k-state.edu/pdfs/dining/JPsMenu100212.pdf
We pay our employees well, so tips are not necessary. However, if you choose to leave a tip, it will be donated to K-State scholarship funds.
Apologies, no split checks on groups of 6 or more.
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dobber, I don't know you irl (yet), but you sound like a complete stud.
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the world would be a better place if more people were like dobber.
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I should be greeted within 5 minutes of being seated, I should be brought my first drink within minutes of ordering it, and I should be offered a replacement before it's empty.
americans don't like to request a waiter's attention. i understand that, i find it uncomfortable myself. luckily i normally eat with someone who grew up in a different cultural milieu, and who doesn't find it at all uncomfortable.
and i detest having waiters constantly asking if i'm content, how my food tastes, if i need anything, etc. so it's the best of both worlds for me.
aspie noted
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dobber, I don't know you irl (yet), but you sound like a complete stud.
yla pretty much nailed me in his "compare poster to dating" thread. Probably not a complete stud, but not an bad person that you hate hanging around.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ)
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I should be greeted within 5 minutes of being seated, I should be brought my first drink within minutes of ordering it, and I should be offered a replacement before it's empty.
americans don't like to request a waiter's attention. i understand that, i find it uncomfortable myself. luckily i normally eat with someone who grew up in a different cultural milieu, and who doesn't find it at all uncomfortable.
and i detest having waiters constantly asking if i'm content, how my food tastes, if i need anything, etc. so it's the best of both worlds for me.
aspie noted
the only time I find it very annoying is when I have just taken a bite of food and then they ask so how is everything today
:dubious: well give me about 10 seconds to chew and swallow and I'll tell you
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Oh, and the tax thing.
What about "the tax thing," TC? Please inform me. :whistle1:
0 — tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service
* all information based on 2012 data, unless otherwise noted
** as of January 16, 2013
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Oh, and the tax thing.
What about "the tax thing," TC? Please inform me. :whistle1:
0 — tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service
* all information based on 2012 data, unless otherwise noted
** as of January 16, 2013
T's and P's on having a crappy childhood with no friends, rake.
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T's and P's on having a crappy childhood with no friends, rake.
you've described by adult life, not my childhood. :D
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:D
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T's and P's on having a crappy childhood with no friends, rake.
you've described by adult life, not my childhood. :D
Sometimes I read posts on this blog that make me sad, but then I remember that I am on gE, and everybody that is on gE is happy irl, so I am not so sad anymore.
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people saying that you're stealing when you get free drinks are full of crap. most non-western kansas saloons comp a lot of drinks each night. bartenders use these comps on their regulars/big tippers.
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people saying that you're stealing when you get free drinks are full of crap. most non-western kansas saloons comp a lot of drinks each night. bartenders use these comps on their regulars/big tippers.
Looks like someone else gets the bar/restaurant game. :Cheers:
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pretty sure it's illegal to comp drinks in kansas
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pretty sure it's illegal to comp drinks in kansas
It is, that's why the owner "buys them".