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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on January 04, 2014, 09:26:35 AM
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Oklahoma State has been highly touted all year for good reason, in Smart they may have the best college player in the country, plus they surround him with very good players in Brown, Nash, and Forte. Of note, all four are scorers and average over 28 points per 100 possessions; Smart leads at 32.8, Forte at 32.5, Brown at 29.1 and Nash at 28.2. Its no surprise that their offense is 4th nationally in kenpom's adjusted system at 1.18 points per possession while shooting 56.6% (#9) with a TO% of 14.9% (#21) and a FT rate of 51.2% (#28). Defensively the Pokes are solid as well, #17 overall at .93 ppp, allowing only 42.7% (#11), 41.5% on 2PTs (#12) and forcing a TO% of 21.5% (#38). All while playing at the Big 12's 4th fastest pace of 70.6 possessions per game.
The major factor in the loss of Cobbins to watch will be on the defensive end as Cobbins is a major factor in OSU's paint defense (2PT% above) and blocking 15.8% of their opponents 2PT attempts (#18). He and Murphy have split time all year and this will move a much less experienced Layton Hammonds into their defensive rotation. Plus, OSU isn't a strong team on the boards (minimal .6% advantage in OR%) and losing their 2nd best rebounder won't help. The loss of Clarke changes their perimeter rotation and he is their 2nd best 3PT shooter, but over 1 game I think his loss isn't nearly as big a deal compared to Cobbins, though their combined loss is significant.
I think defensively K-State can contain OSU's offense to around 1.00-1.03 points per possession, the key will be getting enough offense (shooting) to win. I will watch closely oscar's 35/35 3PT mark (attempt% and 3PT%) as that will likely be a big factor to watch. Another to watch will be TO%, something K-State usually wins, but OSU is both good at forcing them and protecting the ball. Its likely OSU will shoot better than K-State eFG%, but if the Cats can manage to win TO% and OR%, then this game likely comes down to the last minute.
Thomas playing 25 solid minutes, Foster, Gip, and Shane scoring, plus some solid role minutes from Westicles and Will get the Big 12 title defense started right in the OOD in a low possession (61) game.
Cats 67-Pokes 64
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Don't toy with my heart like this.
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seems like we have to have almost everything go our way to win.
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I read the whole thing, but there's something about _FAN's pregame notes that make me want to shout, "STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM!"
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Has there ever been a _FAN pregame which straight to the bottom ended in a cat loss? Good point counterpoint to zacker.
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Has there ever been a _FAN pregame which straight to the bottom ended in a cat loss? Good point counterpoint to zacker.
Occasionally.
ftb.
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Thank you _FAN I'm real excited to go to the game today.
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Has there ever been a _FAN pregame which straight to the bottom ended in a cat loss? Good point counterpoint to zacker.
Occasionally.
ftb.
ftb
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zacker, idea:
Message icon: Exclamation mark
Subject: HERE COMES BULLET
Body: POINTS about why the cats are going to get smoked.
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
:ksu:
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
YES!
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My thread setup was pretty amazing though right?
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My thread setup was pretty amazing though right?
Is good, IIRC he already used something like it once in FB.
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damn
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Not going to lie, this worries me.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2
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I guess it wasn't in the title.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=24039.msg648830#msg648830
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We own our home gym on day after cotton bowl Big XII openers!
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I AM VERY, VERY EXCITED TO DO THIS TODAY GUYS!
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I AM VERY, VERY EXCITED TO DO THIS TODAY GUYS!
Rate your excitement
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I AM VERY, VERY EXCITED TO DO THIS TODAY GUYS!
Rate your excitement
8.5-9
Should be fun.
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you forgot the exclamation icon, but i enjoyed that 'zacker!
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The only time I remember 'zacker predicting a Cats win was last year (football) against Baylor.
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THEY ARE MISSING 2 IMPORTANT PLAYERS
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If the 'Cats can't win this one, eff.
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The only time I remember 'zacker predicting a Cats win was last year (football) against Baylor.
no, against Texas last year in football.
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I only played 16 so I could could watch the Cats of Kansas State! I also shot a really low score as a result!
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I only played 16 so I could could watch the Cats of Kansas State! I also shot a really low score as a result!
Started on 3 didn't you, you sly son of a bitch.
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Nobody has used a time out yet? Weird
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Osu is very talented, and they aren't afraid to flop your eyes out
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
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Well done 'cats. 'Preesh.
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
I was on team good guys you rough rider. I was just saying that usually you weren't and was trying to help you. I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU IN REAL LIFE. :curse:
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72 points streak tho
It's very real guys
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man, was really hoping OSU would be that team to finally knock off KU. they're pretty meh.
oh well.
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
I was on team good guys you rough rider. I was just saying that usually you weren't and was trying to help you. I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU IN REAL LIFE. :curse:
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
I was on team good guys you rough rider. I was just saying that usually you weren't and was trying to help you. I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU IN REAL LIFE. :curse:
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
I was on team good guys you rough rider. I was just saying that usually you weren't and was trying to help you. I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU IN REAL LIFE. :curse:
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What do you guys think was said between Westicles and assistant coach right after the buzzer. They seemed to go at it a bit.
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Dear SD (and Travis Ford),
We're going to rough ridin' destroy the Cowboys today and there's just nothing you or anyone can do about.
Sincerely,
catzacker
Right in your face, SD (and Travis Ford and Mike Gundy). Right in your damn face.
I was on team good guys you rough rider. I was just saying that usually you weren't and was trying to help you. I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU IN REAL LIFE. :curse:
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What do you guys think was said between Westicles and assistant coach right after the buzzer. They seemed to go at it a bit.
chet. I think (hope) they were just joking around.
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What do you guys think was said between Westicles and assistant coach right after the buzzer. They seemed to go at it a bit.
chet. I think (hope) they were just joking around.
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http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/video?gameId=400498337
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What do you guys think was said between Westicles and assistant coach right after the buzzer. They seemed to go at it a bit.
chet. I think (hope) they were just joking around.
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http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/video?gameId=400498337
Yeah, I think they were just partying
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There are plenty of narratives going into this one. Marcus Smart/OSU battling for the tornament. K-State's road woes. OSU's inconsistent play. 2nd place in the league. A bit of revenge for OSU. Etc.
I think this will be tough and it reminds me a lot of last year's game in Stillwater. However, last year's K-State team was playing for a lot more and played a lot better on the road. I don't think we get blown out like Lawrence or Norman, but OSU and Smart make the plays down the stretch to beat us.
Cats 65 - Pokes 73
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:frown:
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Yeah I see a 10 pt loss. I think we all will be disappointed if the game is all but over halfway thru the 2nd half, but I don't think it will be a 1 poss game with under 2 min left.
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I hate having to be guarded with my emotions when we head on the road after a good win. Earlier on one of these boards someone predicted that March was our month. I think we come out and have a higher shooting percentage than we did all February. Foul trouble will most likely dictate a favorite. Until tonight I'm trying not to be too :excited: and I'm hoping the game is at least :ohno: till the end.
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Drove to work this morning, roads were fine. My work is only 40 miles from Stillwater, think I'm going to go and see if I can just walk in.
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My prediction for tonight is me going to bed frustrated around 11pm after being frustrated for two hours and starting the game late on my DVR. :curse:
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Smart's been riding high since coming back, I think he loses some gas after Saturday. Cats win by 4
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He and Brown looked really good against KU.
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Think the game is going to be really ugly. If we get in foul trouble we will have to get them in foul trouble or we will get blown out of the water. Do think our bench is better than their bench.
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Think the game is going to be really ugly. If we get in foul trouble we will have to get them in foul trouble or we will get blown out of the water. Do think our bench is better than their bench.
yes
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5 points. 6 TOs, 6 missed layups.---- That's what we did last 16 poss (9 minutes game time)
Played so well except for foul issues the first 11 minutes. And then we went back to our old selves on the road
Westicles is having a rough night
Cant sit Will when we are struggling that bad. Should have brought him back in at under 4 timeout
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Refs swallowed their whistles all half for okie lite
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Jfc such a frustrating game
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Smart's flopping has waned quite a bit
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He may have hurt himself flopping, however
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Westicles. :thumbsup:
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rough ridin' Westicles... :'bye cruel world:
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Not sure what else we could do to lose this game