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Title: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Do Work Son on March 29, 2010, 09:42:12 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not         
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2010, 09:44:02 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not         


Jake and Denis both make it.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2010, 09:55:31 PM
This question has the same answer as another:

is Denis from Moundridge KS?
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2010, 09:56:15 PM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: pike on March 29, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.

qft. I hate our athletic department
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Do Work Son on March 29, 2010, 09:58:37 PM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.

Be easier recruiting with Beasley number there.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2010, 10:02:34 PM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Thread Killer on March 29, 2010, 10:04:34 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not         


Jake and Denis both make it.

Jake yes...Denis no
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2010, 10:05:01 PM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...
It didn't have to be this way...

RIP PJs RIP
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Pete on March 29, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not         


Jake and Denis both make it.

Jake yes...Denis no


Would you put Mitch Richmond up there?  If so, you have to put Clemente up there.


IMO, both deserve it.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2010, 10:11:32 PM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...

why post this sh*t?  How the hell would you know, and what would you care, anyway?
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2010, 10:12:37 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not        


Jake and Denis both make it.

Jake yes...Denis no


Would you put Mitch Richmond up there?  If so, you have to put Clemente up there.


IMO, both deserve it.
Sure he deserves it, but will it happen?  History sadly says no.  Just look at the people who hated him all year.

Hint: all of the old people like dax who pester the AD.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Thread Killer on March 29, 2010, 10:17:02 PM
5 years?  :dunno: 10 years from now? I think so, guranteed LOCK it will  be!

Next in line: Beasley or  :bwpopcorn:

Cartier- Probably not         


Jake and Denis both make it.

Jake yes...Denis no


Would you put Mitch Richmond up there?  If so, you have to put Clemente up there.


IMO, both deserve it.

clemente wont be up there
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2010, 10:19:53 PM
Don't know, or care
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 29, 2010, 10:33:24 PM
Hey, I love Clemente's heart, but if he doesn't have his # retired, it won't be because of racism.

Clemente was second-team All-Conference (and 4th-team All-American according to Fox Sports).  Everyone in the rafters now was an All-American/multiple-times first team All-Conference.  A better comparison might be Steven Henson, who was first-team All-Conference, white, the starting PG for an Elite 8 team, full of "heart" -- and is not in the rafters.

I definitely wouldn't count on it happening.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: goldenticket on March 29, 2010, 10:47:51 PM

Clemente was second-team All-Conference (and 4th-team All-American according to Fox Sports).  Everyone in the rafters now was an All-American/multiple-times first team All-Conference.  A better comparison might be Steven Henson, who was first-team All-Conference, white, the starting PG for an Elite 8 team, full of "heart" -- and is not in the rafters.

I definitely wouldn't count on it happening.

good call
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Pett on March 29, 2010, 11:36:11 PM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.

qft. I hate our athletic department

Currie. :curse:

Start making the "Put Beasley's Jersey In The Rafters" shirts.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2010, 12:17:16 AM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...

why post this sh*t?  How the hell would you know, and what would you care, anyway?

I'm sure he would come back once in a while if Frank is still coaching here, but other than that...GMAFB Rusty.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: mcmwcat on March 30, 2010, 07:43:26 AM
open up a KSU Latin American hall of fame and let him be the inaugural member. 
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 07:45:31 AM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...

why post this sh*t?  How the hell would you know, and what would you care, anyway?

I'm sure he would come back once in a while if Frank is still coaching here, but other than that...GMAFB Rusty.

Just seems like a weird thing to post.  No athlete that isn't from Kansas would come back unless it was to see their coach or something.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2010, 07:47:15 AM
Most likely the only reason Denis would step foot in Manhattan again...

why post this sh*t?  How the hell would you know, and what would you care, anyway?

I'm sure he would come back once in a while if Frank is still coaching here, but other than that...GMAFB Rusty.

Just seems like a weird thing to post.  No athlete that isn't from Kansas would come back unless it was to see their coach or something.

so we agree?? weird.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 07:47:40 AM
The jerseys in the rafters should be voted on each season and those that don't receive at least 60% of the vote from fans ages 40 years and below are taken down.  It's the only fair way to do it imo.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: KSU-Krazie on March 30, 2010, 08:00:49 AM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.

Pullens number in my opinion should be retired either before or the same time as beasleys. If you look at what each has done for the program Jpull is way ahead of beasley.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Do Work Son on March 30, 2010, 08:35:21 AM
open up a KSU Latin American hall of fame and let him be the inaugural member. 

 :pray: that Colon doesn't make it in Latin America hall of fame
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 08:38:58 AM
If you look at what each has done for the program Jpull is way ahead of beasley.

You kiss your mother with that dirty mouth? 
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: EllToPay on March 30, 2010, 08:53:39 AM
If you look at what each has done for the program Jpull is way ahead of beasley.

JFC, :facepalm:
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 30, 2010, 09:29:12 AM
Pullen doesn't make it unless he's an All-American next year.  Don't shoot the messenger -- that seems to be the line of delineation, and I doubt it changes.

Beasley should have been put up there on Senior Day, but at least this way we can lure him back to the sticks for a big ceremony and whatnot (assuming it happens, which it should).
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Do Work Son on March 30, 2010, 09:30:53 AM
Pullen doesn't make it unless he's an All-American next year.  Don't shoot the messenger -- that seems to be the line of delineation, and I doubt it changes.

Beasley should have been put up there on Senior Day, but at least this way we can lure him back to the sticks for a big ceremony and whatnot (assuming it happens, which it should).

Dude,  JPullz is a first team AA next year.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2010, 09:38:25 AM
Pullen doesn't make it unless he's an All-American next year.  Don't shoot the messenger -- that seems to be the line of delineation, and I doubt it changes.

Beasley should have been put up there on Senior Day, but at least this way we can lure him back to the sticks for a big ceremony and whatnot (assuming it happens, which it should).

I wonder how they would count HM AA? 

3 NCAAs in 4 years would be a pretty good career, especially if we make it to the 2nd weekend again.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 09:41:45 AM
open up a KSU Latin American hall of fame and let him be the inaugural member. 

Love this idea.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 30, 2010, 09:42:10 AM
Pullen doesn't make it unless he's an All-American next year.  Don't shoot the messenger -- that seems to be the line of delineation, and I doubt it changes.

Beasley should have been put up there on Senior Day, but at least this way we can lure him back to the sticks for a big ceremony and whatnot (assuming it happens, which it should).

I wonder how they would count HM AA? 

3 NCAAs in 4 years would be a pretty good career, especially if we make it to the 2nd weekend again.

I would think HM AA should be enough if he's the all-time scoring leader and has that kind of tourney success, but then you're sort of leaving it to chance (and the idiots that run things in our AD).  Better for him to just make the actual team.  
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: SleepFighter on March 30, 2010, 09:43:10 AM

3 NCAAs in 4 years would be a pretty good career, especially if we make it to the 2nd weekend again.

Again, not good enough if you don't have Henson up there.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2010, 09:48:41 AM

3 NCAAs in 4 years would be a pretty good career, especially if we make it to the 2nd weekend again.

Again, not good enough if you don't have Henson up there.

He would be the closest comparison.  Henson was HM AA and All Big 8 twice.  If Pullen actually makes one of the AA teams next year, he will "surpass" Henson in that regard.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 09:50:46 AM
Pullen shouldn't be discussed until Beasley is up there.  Really, no one should.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 09:52:52 AM
Pullen shouldn't be discussed until Beasley is up there.  Really, no one but Kendra Wecker should.

FYP
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
Pullen shouldn't be discussed until Beasley is up there.  Really, no one should.

Agree completely with this.  But Beasley being up there shouldn't even be a discussion.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 30, 2010, 09:56:13 AM
Pullen shouldn't be discussed until Beasley is up there.  Really, no one but Kendra Wecker should.

FYP

This literally makes me want to vomit.  Well done.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 09:58:08 AM
Slightly OT, but I'm looking forward to the anti-climatic "peel back some crappy tarp to reveal the dates of the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 appearance" moment to open the season next year.   :ksu:
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2010, 10:09:43 AM
Pullen doesn't make it unless he's an All-American next year.  Don't shoot the messenger -- that seems to be the line of delineation, and I doubt it changes.

Beasley should have been put up there on Senior Day, but at least this way we can lure him back to the sticks for a big ceremony and whatnot (assuming it happens, which it should).

I don't think Lon Kruger was ever an AA.  However, he was Big 8 POY twice.

Of course, lack of AA status is why I do not support Steve Henson ever being in the rafters.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Panjandrum on March 30, 2010, 10:11:06 AM
Pullen shouldn't be discussed until Beasley is up there.  Really, no one should.

This plus one million.
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2010, 10:33:32 AM
I don't think Lon Kruger was ever an AA.  However, he was Big 8 POY twice.

Of course, lack of AA status is why I do not support Steve Henson ever being in the rafters.

http://www.kstatesports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&SPID=213&SPSID=3092

I just assumed Kruger had to get at least one AA, but he didn't.  How was he Big 8 POY twice and not AA? 
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 11:12:03 AM
I hate us for not having Beasley in the rafters.  Hate.

Pullens number in my opinion should be retired either before or the same time as beasleys. If you look at what each has done for the program Jpull is way ahead of beasley.

jfc, our fanbase is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 30, 2010, 11:23:03 AM
I think Pullen is a lock if he gets: 2 first-team All-Conference seasons + all-time leading scorer + 3rd team AA.

Also, I assume Beasley will be in the next "round" of retirements.  Probably along with someone older like F.I. Reynolds (1917), or maybe one of the coaches or something.  Pullen would be after that.

Hopefully, Judge puts up a career that is worthy also.  (A guy can dream, right?)
Title: Re: Will Clemente's number be in the rafters?
Post by: get_HIT on March 30, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
This question has the same answer as another:

is Denis from Moundridge KS?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

right on!  standards are such bs