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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Havs on November 04, 2013, 01:13:09 PM
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What textbook is that from?
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an errant click on a tech board lead me to this gem. he covers football at the bottom. also, we have an evolution discussion somewhere.
1. In Darwin's own book. On page 146 Chapter 6 in my copy. This is Darwin's quote verbatim
"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly
have been formed by numerous successive slight modifications, my theory would
absolutely break down. But I can find no such case."
Obviously that is NOT the case today. The simple cell is ANYTHING but simple and therefore in Darwin's own words disproves his own theory. The reason you are never told this is because Evolution by many quotes is an Atheist Naturalism agenda with very bad science.
It is not science vs religion as they propagandize it and brainwash it so well. Which I have many quotes on that too even though ironically they use that method while admitting it.
Few More thoughts for you guys to answer
2. Please Explain to me how a NON BRAIN of Randomness of Natural Selection can do these things
a) In Nature we find Design, Programming, Engineering, Design Engineering etc
that Man's brain today can't match and is trying to learn how to copy to better man-
kind.
b) Give me any examples of how Randomness ever produces precision. The non brain
of Evolution produced the precision of the Laws of Nature and Science. How?
c) Give me examples of where you see Design, Programming, Engineering, Design
Engineering etc in today's world w/o a brain behind what you see.
3) One of Darwin's example in his book concerning the eye in Chapter 6 was this and
I kid you not. If you took a piece of paper and exposed it to various lights at varying
distances over millions and millions of yrs the paper would adapt to its thickness
due to its exposure to meet its need. He did NOT deal with the issue of the paper
degrading over that time before it could adapt or should I say evolve w/o a brain.
4) Do you realize for life to be on planet earth the precision of so many factors that
must exist and come from Randomness of the Big Bang. Tilt and rotation and speed
of Earth's rotation. Distant from the Sun and Moon. The path of the Rotations of each.
I could go on but won't as you should get my drift. The mathematical odds are so
astronomical that mathematically it is considered IMPOSSIBLE!
5) When you read Darwin's book he cites Micro Evol as proof of Macro w/o actual proof.
He admits the fossil record is a big problem but feels later in time it will validate
him and show the transitional forms it MUST have to prove him correct. Cambrian
Explosion disproves that and ironically multiple types of a species are just that.
They are not a higher order different species at all. Finches are still Finches. The
same is true for the Moths etc.
6) He makes such truly scientific assumptions and we all know what that means. He
assumes Evol is true so the fact things exist prove it. That is science. Really? No
transitional forms of proof. We still don't have it today. Just pretty drawings of
imagination w/o proof and direct links and stages one to another and they call that
science. Wow!
7) His own book reveals so many of his own doubts of his own theory. Why do you not
ever get exposed to that for honest open education? It is fraud like the socialist
agenda taking over our schools. And sadly students are taught to just accept and
not question and actually do critical analysis of what is being taught them and esp
if you do you are made fun of and discredited so you won't do it again. That is one
technique brainwashing and propaganda specializes in. They also discredit opposition
that way beforehand so you won't question or do critical analysis and they can slide
it on by you so therefor making you a puppet of the system. I hate that for modern
day students.
8) I challenge any of you to actually do some critical analysis of their material and pay
close attn to the wording. Just like in Darwin's book you will see many terms and
phrases like for example. might have been, its conceivable, as far as we know, we
assume (because it exists), it might be possible, it could have been, and it goes on
and on.
9) One smart thing they tend to do to give it credibility is to teach science that all
sides agree on, Evol, Creationist, ID so it makes it seem accurate when they go
to evolution as they have borrowed real science credibility to then teach evolution
as a fact in manners already discussed.
10) You are NEVER told all the problems of various dating methods. Which one of my
articles from evolutionist admits. They gloss over or never admit to info contrary
to their teaching and discredit the others even if their science is good so you won't
give it the time of day and discover the truth so you can actually make an informed
decision.
11) I will link various articles if interested. You can also follow me on twitter @ttechsan
as I cover Tech, Politics, very conservative, Christianity and as this shows why Evol
is bad science not science vs religion.
12) I do admit that my final interpretation is only God could have scientifically Designed,
Programmed, Engineered, Design Engineered etc with the precision we see in Nature
certainly a non brain couldn't do it esp as we see it. It's the science that shows me
only God. I don't try and fit God into the Science due to my Faith. My science makes
me turn to God as it reveals Him. That is big difference.
13) As I asked earlier. Give me examples of Precision, Design, Engineering, Programming,
Design Engineering etc from Randomness and then I might reconsider. I've yet to see
it anywhere. Must less it be smarter than man so much so we can't match a non brain
and are trying to copy it to make it better for mankind. I have links for all statements
made except from Darwin's book. I have my copy. I'm not going to buy another. That
you can check out on your own. The copy you find may be on a different page but will
or should be in same chapter. The quote in about midway in the chapter in my copy.
GO TECH BEAT KSU AND GET OUR DEFENSE BACK ON TRACK AND STOP THE TURNOVERS!
Which few are Davis Webb's fault. Fumbles and passes bouncing off receivers hands. D
getting so far behind in last two games, esp for a true Freshman to play catch up under
that pressure for so long is tough job and he has handled it amazingly well. Just needs
more touch but KK is the one to teach him that playing in a real conference.
At least TCU is being exposed for what a fraud they have been. Why the love for TCU?
They built a rep in pansy leagues and only playing tough teams in bowls. Now playing
tough teams weekly is sure exposing them. Why would ANYONE want to play for that
maniac with those school colors and a FROG mascot?
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Can you summarize that into like 2-4 sentences?
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Can you summarize that into like 2-4 sentences?
Boo evolution. Go Tech.
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Can you summarize that into like 2-4 sentences?
i read to b) in 2, scrolled down and said ya... i'm not up for this right now.
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Can you summarize that into like 2-4 sentences?
1. Wreck 'Em.
2. TCU sucks.
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Does evolutionary theory really address the origin of living things? Or does it just say that living things change?
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Does evolutionary theory really address the origin of living things? Or does it just say that living things change?
mostly the latter. but there's no line in the sand.
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Wow.
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Protip: only God and Satan know for sure.
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Protip: only God and Satan know for sure.
What about Santa? Wouldn't he know? Afterall, he sees you when you're sleeping. He knows if you're awake. And he knows if you've been bad or good.
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Protip: only God and Satan know for sure.
What about Santa? Wouldn't he know? Afterall, he sees you when you're sleeping. He knows if you're awake. And he knows if you've been bad or good.
He couldn't do any of that when he was still a monkey, though. Santa is just as clueless as everybody else.
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Protip: only God and Satan know for sure.
What about Santa? Wouldn't he know? Afterall, he sees you when you're sleeping. He knows if you're awake. And he knows if you've been bad or good.
Santa is just Satan rearranged, duh.
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I'm pretty sure evolution is a fact, not a theory.
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dinosaur bones were put in the earth by satan to confuse christians. - some guy i know
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I think the more plausible theory is that we were put here by aliens rather than evolution.
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HOLY GIANT BLACK BOX AND TINY PICTURE!!
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That's the expansive universe.
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That's the expansive universe.
lol
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shopped
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/ham-on-nye-debate-pits-atheists-creationists/2014/01/30/140d58ee-89ec-11e3-a760-a86415d0944d_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/ham-on-nye-debate-pits-atheists-creationists/2014/01/30/140d58ee-89ec-11e3-a760-a86415d0944d_story.html)
This will probably be pointless, but it may be quite entertaining as well.
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Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI
Its about to go down
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Kind of interesting that this pits someone (creationist) from one of the least religious civilized countries in the world and another (evolutionist) from one of the most religious civilized countries in the world.
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Kind of interesting that this pits someone (creationist) from one of the least religious civilized countries in the world and another (evolutionist) from one of the most religious civilized countries in the world.
i thought about that too.
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I find Ham's description and explanation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics disgusting.
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Kind of interesting that this pits someone (creationist) from one of the least religious civilized countries in the world and another (evolutionist) from one of the most religious civilized countries in the world.
It sort of makes sense. Cognitive dissonance would suggest they hold their views stronger than most since they're most likely defending them all the time.
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Kind of interesting that this pits someone (creationist) from one of the least religious civilized countries in the world and another (evolutionist) from one of the most religious civilized countries in the world.
It sort of makes sense. Cognitive dissonance would suggest they hold their views stronger than most since they're most likely defending them all the time.
Probably so
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22 messages from creationists to Bill Nye (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio?bffb)
buzzfeed, but good. the level of scientific inquiry is :horrorsurprise:.
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22 messages from creationists to Bill Nye (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio?bffb)
buzzfeed, but good. the level of scientific inquiry is :horrorsurprise:.
:frown:
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22 messages from creationists to Bill Nye (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio?bffb)
buzzfeed, but good. the level of scientific inquiry is :horrorsurprise:.
god damnit, every single one of these infuriated me. 3, 5, 9 14, 17, and 22 particularly deserve to be punched in their dumb rough ridin' faces.
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22 messages from creationists to Bill Nye (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio?bffb)
buzzfeed, but good. the level of scientific inquiry is :horrorsurprise:.
god damnit, every single one of these infuriated me. 3, 5, 9 14, 17, and 22 particularly deserve to be punched in their dumb rough ridin' faces.
I would mush every single one of their rough ridin' faces with those arguments. 5 and 9 take the cake as the ones that would be mushed first. I know you can have faith in something, but jfc those people have like 4 iq's.
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Well, you can't refute 3, but that's not how the bible said it happened, so I'm not sure why he would arrive at that talking point.
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I think 12 should be mushed first, purely based on her facial expression.
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replay of the debate here: http://debatelive.org/ (http://debatelive.org/)
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http://boingboing.net/2014/02/06/in-which-pat-robertson-sides-w.html
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/pope-says-evolution-and-creation-both-right (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/pope-says-evolution-and-creation-both-right)
Case closed, dumbasses.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/pope-says-evolution-and-creation-both-right (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/pope-says-evolution-and-creation-both-right)
Case closed, dumbasses.
pffft, more like Pope Fence-is
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Is this a thing?
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what on earth :lol:
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this is definitely one of the funnier ones
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That's so great.
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How do you explain a sunset if there is no god? I mean, the lady's got a point.
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How do you explain a sunset if their is no god? I mean, the lady's got a point.
fyp
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:lol:
I hope Coach Taylor's wife doesn't impose her views on her students :frown:
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Isn't she just being silly?
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Isn't she just being silly?
Yes, you could sunset with just about anything (puppy, pizza, rainbow)
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http://www.creationevidence.org/
I drove by this place a few months. I wanted to go in but my wife wanted to get home. :(
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Curt Schilling going bonkers right now :sdeek:
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Please post all the detail as to what this guy who gets paid to throw a ball for a living thinks about an in depth scientific theory and it's evidence.
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How do you explain a sunset if there is no god? I mean, the lady's got a point.
Unless you're talking about the one in the question mark, you're an idiot.
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Where did the sewer muck we supposedly evolved from come from? I take comfort knowing God created this world to be perfect. It was man's actions that threw eveything into a big flush spin and chaos. Mutations are forming in species all of the time trying to adapt ton
a world that is becoming more screwed up by the minute -it is devolution. I didn't evolve from a fly eating, butt picking monkey.
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dont ever change renocat :thumbs:
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Evolving from a butt picking monkey? No way!
Come into existence by the hands of an invisible, all-powerful being? Totally believable!
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Where did the sewer muck we supposedly evolved from come from? I take comfort knowing God created this world to be perfect. It was man's actions that threw eveything into a big flush spin and chaos. Mutations are forming in species all of the time trying to adapt ton
a world that is becoming more screwed up by the minute -it is devolution. I didn't evolve from a fly eating, butt picking monkey.
Actually it was woman's action. Lol. Cant live with em, cant kill em, am I right?
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Evolution, destroyed!
http://youtu.be/32mxZxv3dYM
Dragons are real and scientists are covering that up!!! (20 minute mark for that tidbit)
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Evolving from a butt picking monkey? No way!
Come into existence as a white personby the hands of an invisible, all-powerful being? Totally believable!
fyp
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Evolution, destroyed!
http://youtu.be/32mxZxv3dYM
Dragons are real and scientists are covering that up!!! (20 minute mark for that tidbit)
I want dragons to be real so badly. :pray:
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Evolution, destroyed!
http://youtu.be/32mxZxv3dYM
Dragons are real and scientists are covering that up!!! (20 minute mark for that tidbit)
I want dragons to be real so badly. :pray:
I don't, they would wipe us out. they would absolutely eff up air travel
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do u even skyrim bros
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Evolution, destroyed!
http://youtu.be/32mxZxv3dYM
Dragons are real and scientists are covering that up!!! (20 minute mark for that tidbit)
I want dragons to be real so badly. :pray:
I don't, they would wipe us out. they would absolutely eff up air travel
Good point. :frown:
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do u even skyrim bros
no :frown:
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Evolution, destroyed!
http://youtu.be/32mxZxv3dYM
Dragons are real and scientists are covering that up!!! (20 minute mark for that tidbit)
I want dragons to be real so badly. :pray:
I don't, they would wipe us out. they would absolutely eff up air travel
Good point. :frown:
A flying dragon crapping on your windshield would not be good!
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Could you imagine being that woman's neighbor?
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I spent the last decade studying embryology, comparative morphology, genetics, and mostly easing dinosaurs from cave paintings. Now this. Exposed. The gig is up. The party is over for science.
:buh-bye: Time to find a new job.
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I spent the last decade studying embryology, comparative morphology, genetics, and mostly easing dinosaurs from cave paintings. Now this. Exposed. The gig is up. The party is over for science.
:buh-bye: Time to find a new job.
Dragons. Just change the terms and you should be fine. Quit dedicating your life to killing her kids imaginations. I mean, some old guy painted a picture once.
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do u even skyrim bros
For approx a month of my life
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I spent the last decade studying embryology, comparative morphology, genetics, and mostly easing dinosaurs from cave paintings. Now this. Exposed. The gig is up. The party is over for science.
:buh-bye: Time to find a new job.
gE is hiring for an embryologist, pm me your CV
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Where did the sewer muck we supposedly evolved from come from? I take comfort knowing God created this world to be perfect. It was man's actions that threw eveything into a big flush spin and chaos. Mutations are forming in species all of the time trying to adapt ton
a world that is becoming more screwed up by the minute -it is devolution. I didn't evolve from a fly eating, butt picking monkey.
Someone apparently doesn't understand evolution. You didn't evolve from a monkey, but you do share a close common ancestor. Given that multiple lines of evidence support this (morphological and cellular homologies, transitionary forms in the fossil record, molecular clock dating for accurately predicting rate of mutational change, gene sequences, homologous antibody presence despite the absence of exposure to the antigen, etc.), you'd be a bumbling fool evoking willful ignorance to believe in anything else. Go with the data, especially when independent metrics keep saying the same thing; you already observe it to be true.
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I pick my butt sometimes
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I did not evolve from a flea eating, weasel scratching, butt picking mankey or screwed up critter that evolved from a turd eating possum-rat hybrid. I can't disprove convolluted mumbojumbo support for evolution than an evolutionist can disprove my faith in God's handiwork. Ol' Darwin has no answer as to where the muck, from which his life evolved, came from.
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Your posting makes me think you evolved from a butt picking mankey
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I did not evolve from a flea eating, weasel scratching, butt picking mankey or screwed up critter that evolved from a turd eating possum-rat hybrid. I can't disprove convolluted mumbojumbo support for evolution than an evolutionist can disprove my faith in God's handiwork. Ol' Darwin has no answer as to where the muck, from which his life evolved, came from.
You didn't, but you are related