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Title: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/fbi-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: 8manpick on October 07, 2013, 11:25:44 AM
This doesn't really seem like a case of "the man" overreaching to you, does it?
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: p1k3 on October 07, 2013, 12:09:46 PM
This doesn't really seem like a case of "the man" overreaching to you, does it?

of course it is
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Tobias on October 07, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
what if this was $80M in cash in a big-ass locked safe the FBI didn't have the key to?
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: ben ji on October 07, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Dub on October 07, 2013, 04:45:14 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.

Come to Colorado.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 07, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Dub on October 07, 2013, 05:03:20 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

Denver.  Moved here within the last year.  Love it.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: ChiComCat on October 07, 2013, 05:13:12 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Dub on October 07, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho

There's tons of cats out here.  Pak spot since I've been here has been Highland Tap and Burger.  There was probably 100+ for the Texas game.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Dub on October 07, 2013, 05:23:23 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho

Where in the mountains are ya?  How much snow you get last weekend?
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: ChiComCat on October 07, 2013, 05:24:45 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho

There's tons of cats out here.  Pak spot since I've been here has been Highland Tap and Burger.  There was probably 100+ for the Texas game.

I'm pretty sure you're right, I just remembered it wrong.  Was out for TCU game last year and Tourney games the year before.  Fun, young alumni base.

I'm in the Winter Park area.  Got a few inches and it stuck around a couple days.  Going to be a crazy winter if the precipitation keeps up.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Dub on October 07, 2013, 05:27:19 PM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho

There's tons of cats out here.  Pak spot since I've been here has been Highland Tap and Burger.  There was probably 100+ for the Texas game.

I'm pretty sure you're right, I just remembered it wrong.  Was out for TCU game last year and Tourney games the year before.  Fun, young alumni base.

I'm in the Winter Park area.  Got a few inches and it stuck around a couple days.  Going to be a crazy winter if the precipitation keeps up.

Someone the other day mentioned the farmer's almanac and how it said this winter is going to be crazy.  Could be right with the amount of rain we've had and looking at what happened up in Wyoming.  Should be interesting. 
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: Unruly on October 08, 2013, 10:21:09 AM
Come to Colorado.

Where do you live? I plan on moving out there by spring '15.

I'm in the mountains.  There seems to be a pretty good pak contingent in Denver the couple times I've been down for game.  Wash Park Tavern is the go to spot.  Good chance I've moved on come spring '15 tho

There's tons of cats out here.  Pak spot since I've been here has been Highland Tap and Burger.  There was probably 100+ for the Texas game.

I'm pretty sure you're right, I just remembered it wrong.  Was out for TCU game last year and Tourney games the year before.  Fun, young alumni base.

I'm in the Winter Park area.  Got a few inches and it stuck around a couple days.  Going to be a crazy winter if the precipitation keeps up.

Someone the other day mentioned the farmer's almanac and how it said this winter is going to be crazy.  Could be right with the amount of rain we've had and looking at what happened up in Wyoming.  Should be interesting.


HEY NERDS QUIT HIJACKING THIS AWESOME DAX THREAD  :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 08, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
I'm in the Winter Park area.  Got a few inches and it stuck around a couple days.  Going to be a crazy winter if the precipitation keeps up.

Oh man, I love it up there. Just got back from Hot Sulphur Springs a week ago
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: OregonSmock on October 08, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.


The drug war is a revenue generator as well, genius.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 08, 2013, 01:05:26 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.


The drug war is a revenue generator as well, genius.

You must be a huge fan of nancy pelosi.
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: ben ji on October 08, 2013, 01:15:57 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.


The drug war is a revenue generator as well, genius.

You serious clark?
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: OregonSmock on October 09, 2013, 01:17:05 PM
How much money is the federal government missing out by keeping drugs illegal? Billions upon billions?

Not even counting how much money they would save in enforcement. Before prohibition taxes/tariffs/fee's on alcohol accounted for 75% of the federal budget, I'm really surprised no one has pushed for legalization on revenue generation alone.


The drug war is a revenue generator as well, genius.

You serious clark?



Of course I'm serious.  The prison system and the law enforcement system rely on the drug war.  Where do you think the money goes every time someone gets arrested for drug possession, or gets pulled over for a DUI?  Look, I agree with everything you said.  I'm just pointing out that there are reasons why we haven't legalized drugs yet.  The prison industrial complex is a real problem in this country. 

As for your initial question, there are estimates that the government loses out on around $47 billion/yr in tax revenue.  Marijuana alone would generate around $8.7 billion/yr. 

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Economics#sthash.070HtLFa.dpbs (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Economics#sthash.070HtLFa.dpbs)
Title: Re: The Man hates it when he can't get his piece of the pie . . .
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
yes, the drug war is a jobs program, this is common knowledge.