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Title: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Pete on September 22, 2013, 10:13:01 AM
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"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.

Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: p1k3 on September 22, 2013, 10:14:17 AM
Iowa State is at home
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Tobias on September 22, 2013, 10:17:13 AM
so glad bill gets two weeks to prepare for OSU.  nothing bad can come from that.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Trim on September 22, 2013, 10:18:20 AM
so glad bill gets two weeks to prepare for OSU.  nothing bad can come from that.

:lol:
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Pete on September 22, 2013, 10:27:26 AM
Iowa State is at home

Well, that is good.  I misread that.  Now, on the other hand if we lose at home to ISU, we really are good and truly mumped.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2013, 10:31:52 AM
Iowa State is at home

Well, that is good.  I misread that.  Now, on the other hand if we lose at home to ISU, we really are good and truly mumped.

I'm hoping we lose to them at home to expedite the transition. Sams is done, Bill is done. Time to start over.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: p1k3 on September 22, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Who's to say we aren't mumped already?
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: catzacker on September 22, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
you could give Dorian Roberts 52 weeks of preparation and he's still going to suck.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Pete on September 22, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
Who's to say we aren't mumped already?

I think we are.  I just mean it will be the point at which everyone associated with KSU must openly acknowledge it.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kim carnes on September 22, 2013, 10:37:46 AM
i knew it was over after we lost to an FCS team
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Pete on September 22, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
i knew it was over after we lost to an FCS team

WE all did, tucks tho.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2013, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: catz

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you could give Dorian Roberts 52 weeks of preparation and he's still going to suck.

Dorian sent Herbie on an lol rampage last night.  He actually seemed pissed off he had to watch it.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: p1k3 on September 22, 2013, 10:58:22 AM
i knew it was over after we lost to an FCS team

WE all did, tucks tho.

It was more the way we lost to the FCS team that led me to believe it was over
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Gooch on September 22, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
i knew it was over after we lost to an FCS team

WE all did, tucks tho.

It was more the way we lost to the FCS team that led me to believe it was over
What getting it shoved up your ass dry with an 80 yd 8+ min drive for the winning score?
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Functianalyst on September 22, 2013, 12:03:25 PM
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"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.
I took umbrage to people projecting that K-State would end up in 6th place after making similar claims for the past two years.  But after last night, well 7th in front of WVU, KU and ISU could be a reality. 
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: p1k3 on September 22, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
Quote
"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.
I took umbrage to people projecting that K-State would end up in 6th place after making similar claims for the past two years.  But after last night, well 7th in front of WVU, KU and ISU could be a reality.

10th is more likely than 7th, imo. I think we finish 8 or 9 tho.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Functianalyst on September 22, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
Quote
"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.
I took umbrage to people projecting that K-State would end up in 6th place after making similar claims for the past two years.  But after last night, well 7th in front of WVU, KU and ISU could be a reality.

10th is more likely than 7th, imo. I think we finish 8 or 9 tho.
I watched KU yesterday.  The only way K-State finishes behind them is to forfeit the game.  ISU and WVU is no better.  But you know what, there is a lot of season left.  People looking at ISU as the tell-tale sign, I look at the Red River Shootout to determine if what we witnessed from UT is legit.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2013, 01:06:06 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kim carnes on September 22, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote
"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.
I took umbrage to people projecting that K-State would end up in 6th place after making similar claims for the past two years.  But after last night, well 7th in front of WVU, KU and ISU could be a reality.

10th is more likely than 7th, imo. I think we finish 8 or 9 tho.
I watched KU yesterday.  The only way K-State finishes behind them is to forfeit the game.  ISU and WVU is no better.  But you know what, there is a lot of season left.  People looking at ISU as the tell-tale sign, I look at the Red River Shootout to determine if what we witnessed from UT is legit.

yep.  the red river rivalry will tell the story of our season.  good post.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 22, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
Quote
"If it's painful, then you've got to sit with it for two weeks. To me, it's painful. I hope it's painful but I hate for them to have to suffer through it for two solid weeks."
-- LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder on the bye week


I am terrified that this may come to pass....




We sit and suffer for two weeks, only to be BLOWN OUT at Oklahoma State.


The team will be spent.  We'll go on the road and lose to Iowa State.  We will have nearly hit rock bottom.  The team will have given up. 


If that happens......We'll not win another game...including a loss at KU.
I took umbrage to people projecting that K-State would end up in 6th place after making similar claims for the past two years.  But after last night, well 7th in front of WVU, KU and ISU could be a reality.

10th is more likely than 7th, imo. I think we finish 8 or 9 tho.
I watched KU yesterday.  The only way K-State finishes behind them is to forfeit the game.  ISU and WVU is no better.  But you know what, there is a lot of season left.  People looking at ISU as the tell-tale sign, I look at the Red River Shootout to determine if what we witnessed from UT is legit.

yep.  the red river rivalry will tell the story of our season.  good post.
Texas looked like crap on Saturday, we just looked worse.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 22, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Quitters.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kougar24 on September 22, 2013, 09:02:36 PM
I look at the Red River Shootout to determine if what we witnessed from UT is legit.

LOL, what did you see from UT last night? I saw a shitty team capitalizing on the mistakes of a shittier team.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

Well that just means either you haven't watched them play or you're dumb. Pretty sure you're not dumb. I melted down as bad as anyone but lets be real here. Since you clearly didn't see it I'd invite you to check the box score from their game yesterday. They may be worse than ISU and KU.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kslim on September 22, 2013, 09:14:24 PM
Quitters.

Not this guy, not one bit

I'm also drunk
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 22, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Quitters.

Not this guy, not one bit

I'm also drunk

#TeamNoQuit
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kougar24 on September 22, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
I quit. I happily quit this bullshit.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: TownieCat on September 22, 2013, 09:29:49 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

WVU just got shutout 37-0 by an average Maryland team and needed a comeback to beat W&M week 1. Be down about our two losses if you want, but we have not looked nearly that bad...
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kslim on September 22, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
Quitters.

Not this guy, not one bit

I'm also drunk

#TeamNoQuit

Honestly we get through the next three weeks healthy and I see 8wins I know eff me right? But Snyder can't be this successful and this stupid at the same time
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2013, 09:35:14 PM
Quitters.

Not this guy, not one bit

I'm also drunk

#TeamNoQuit

Honestly we get through the next three weeks healthy and I see 8wins I know eff me right? But Snyder can't be this successful and this stupid at the same time

Reach down into those Levi's and untuck that pearl snap
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kslim on September 22, 2013, 09:38:59 PM
Quitters.

Not this guy, not one bit

I'm also drunk

#TeamNoQuit

Honestly we get through the next three weeks healthy and I see 8wins I know eff me right? But Snyder can't be this successful and this stupid at the same time

Reach down into those Levi's and untuck that pearl snap

I just want us to win so bad it hurts, god damn that LHC Bill Snyder
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2013, 09:43:59 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

WVU just got shutout 37-0 by an average Maryland team and needed a comeback to beat W&M week 1. Be down about our two losses if you want, but we have not looked nearly that bad...

Texas got demolished by a BYU team that lost to Virginia and could do nothing offensively against Utah. West Virginia played OU very close. We lost to an FCS school. Maryland is 4-0 and might actually be pretty decent. We might beat WVU, but right now, I'm just not counting on it.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2013, 09:53:38 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

WVU just got shutout 37-0 by an average Maryland team and needed a comeback to beat W&M week 1. Be down about our two losses if you want, but we have not looked nearly that bad...

Texas got demolished by a BYU team that lost to Virginia and could do nothing offensively against Utah. West Virginia played OU very close. We lost to an FCS school. Maryland is 4-0 and might actually be pretty decent. We might beat WVU, but right now, I'm just not counting on it.

I can do score comparisons, I saw most of that OU game and what I could stand yesterday, WVU has not shown to be better than KU or ISU. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing what you think we are from what other teams are. No team that loses to anyone 37-0 should be getting any benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

WVU just got shutout 37-0 by an average Maryland team and needed a comeback to beat W&M week 1. Be down about our two losses if you want, but we have not looked nearly that bad...

Texas got demolished by a BYU team that lost to Virginia and could do nothing offensively against Utah. West Virginia played OU very close. We lost to an FCS school. Maryland is 4-0 and might actually be pretty decent. We might beat WVU, but right now, I'm just not counting on it.

I can do score comparisons, I saw most of that OU game and what I could stand yesterday, WVU has not shown to be better than KU or ISU. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing what you think we are from what other teams are. No team that loses to anyone 37-0 should be getting any benefit of the doubt.
I don't think they are good at all. We have lost to North Dakota State and an awful Texas team. We have done nothing that I can point to that says we are any better than they are. WVU would have beaten Louisiana Lafayette and UMass, too.

There are some things that I believe Bill can do with the current roster to make us a much better team than we have shown, but he hasn't done anything yet, so maybe I'm wrong, or maybe he just won't make any changes all year. With Waters starting and Sams coming off the bench as a change of pace with absolutely no threat whatsoever to pass, even with 10 in the box, and with Roberts starting at CB, I'm just not convinced we are much better than WVU. We should beat them because we are at home. I wouldn't feel confident if we had to play in Morgantown, though. I wouldn't even feel confident about a game in Ames right now.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rams on September 22, 2013, 10:25:40 PM
the good news is, I think TT made it pretty clear last night with his comments that the players feel the same way we do. I just don't think snyder can continue torpedoing sams and losing games and get away with it. he'll absolutely lose this team.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: CNS on September 22, 2013, 10:39:42 PM
the good news is, I think TT made it pretty clear last night with his comments that the players feel the same way we do. I just don't think snyder can continue torpedoing sams and losing games and get away with it. he'll absolutely lose this team.

Every man for himself.  Call that audible, Daniel.

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Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: cDubya on September 23, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
WVU has given nothing to judgeon but inconsistency. So that should tell you a lot, really. Holgorsen says Childress is his guy now (eff) butgive him another week and Trickett could get some time behind center, or he could even go back to Millard. Having 3 options at QB just confuses the hell out of him. (D)eforest is a garbage human being who can't coach any side of the ball, so our special teams is crap. WVU is like 5 deep at running back and can't even use them properly. Theoffensive line is non-existent, and the D is like Swiss cheese with all those holes.

Ill be going to home games, because I'm no fairweather fan, but it'll be tough. Also, is it bad to just hope for a tie against the Cats? haha.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: pissclams on September 23, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
seems like all the real elites in the big 12 are "taking the year off" as they build towards the natty champy game next season.  plan might bust but hey i'll be happy if it works for the cats.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 23, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
Why do people keep saying we are better than WVU? I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case.

Well that just means either you haven't watched them play or you're dumb. Pretty sure you're not dumb. I melted down as bad as anyone but lets be real here. Since you clearly didn't see it I'd invite you to check the box score from their game yesterday. They may be worse than ISU and KU.
Yep, was going to recommend that NK watch a few of the video clips of the WVU vs. Maryland game, but that may be considered torture. Our offense sputters, their offense just plain doesn't go - at all. Now, maybe Maryland's D is good, but . . .  :dunno:
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
I have to admit that I really haven't watched any WVU football this year with exception to the 2nd half of the William and Mary game, where they put some drives together and found a way to beat a shitty team. They might be much worse than the scores of their games indicate. I do think Maryland is a pretty good team this year, though. The ACC is looking very tough. I was completely wrong about Clemson not being for real, and FSU looks great, too.

We shouldn't feel confident about beating anybody, though. We are turning the ball over like crazy against shitty teams, and it's hard to even beat teams that are worse than you if you can't take care of the ball.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 23, 2013, 03:21:00 PM
We shouldn't feel confident about beating anybody, though. We are turning the ball over like crazy against shitty teams, and it's hard to even beat teams that are worse than you if you can't take care of the ball.

Wise words. Whatever happened to the Coach Snyder who would not tolerate turnovers?  :confused:
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: p1k3 on September 23, 2013, 08:16:25 PM
We shouldn't feel confident about beating anybody, though. We are turning the ball over like crazy against shitty teams, and it's hard to even beat teams that are worse than you if you can't take care of the ball.

Wise words. Whatever happened to the Coach Snyder who would not tolerate turnovers?  :confused:

dementia
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 24, 2013, 10:18:22 AM
dementia
I wonder if there's a hotline number we could sneak into his next Taco Bell order or batch of choco chip cookies?  :cry:
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2013, 10:22:26 AM
dementia
I wonder if there's a hotline number we could sneak into his next Taco Bell order or batch of choco chip cookies?  :cry:

"Is this not what you ordered? Call 1-800-I-RECALL"
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
Didn't Grant Gregory take over as starter by this point in the '09 season? Or was it later?
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kso_FAN on September 24, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
Didn't Grant Gregory take over as starter by this point in the '09 season? Or was it later?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/160603/grant-gregory
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2013, 10:32:57 AM
Didn't Grant Gregory take over as starter by this point in the '09 season? Or was it later?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/160603/grant-gregory

Week 5! Sweet. Now I'm going to convince myself that Bill well actually play Sams and be very disappointed when the game starts and I have to watch Waters yet again.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 24, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
We shouldn't feel confident about beating anybody, though. We are turning the ball over like crazy against shitty teams, and it's hard to even beat teams that are worse than you if you can't take care of the ball.

Wise words. Whatever happened to the Coach Snyder who would not tolerate turnovers?  :confused:

he was a myth.  snyder tolerates turnovers when it's a player like ell, bish, etc.  which is why it's weird that sams doesn't play.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
Didn't Grant Gregory take over as starter by this point in the '09 season? Or was it later?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/160603/grant-gregory

Week 5! Sweet. Now I'm going to convince myself that Bill well actually play Sams and be very disappointed when the game starts and I have to watch Waters yet again.

I think Sams will be getting a lot of PT pretty soon.  The Waters experiment was something they felt they had to try but it has crapped out.  If they keep forcing Waters intot he run game, TTT is likely to hide Jake's helmet
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2013, 10:40:58 AM
Didn't Grant Gregory take over as starter by this point in the '09 season? Or was it later?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/160603/grant-gregory

Week 5! Sweet. Now I'm going to convince myself that Bill well actually play Sams and be very disappointed when the game starts and I have to watch Waters yet again.

I think Sams will be getting a lot of PT pretty soon.  The Waters experiment was something they felt they had to try but it has crapped out.  If they keep forcing Waters intot he run game, TTT is likely to hide Jake's helmet

I thought that too, but then Bill didn't start Sams against Texas and I am starting to think that he might just continue benching his best player all year.
Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 24, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
you could give Dorian Roberts 52 weeks of preparation and he's still going to suck.
just keep swimming dorian!

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Title: Re: You'll know it's over after the Iowa State game
Post by: kougar24 on September 24, 2013, 12:22:39 PM
you could give Dorian Roberts 52 weeks of preparation and he's still going to suck.
just keep swimming dorian!
:lol: