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Title: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
You guys were right.  Weis is a joke.  His offense is outdated and his play calling is atrocious.  The sad thing is that KU's defense was good enough last night to win.  My only hope is that Weis hires an offensive coordinator and switches to a spread system next year (well, either that, or he resigns). 


 :'bye cruel world:

Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: wabash909 on September 15, 2013, 12:56:25 PM
You guys were right.  Weis is a joke.  His offense is outdated and his play calling is atrocious.  The sad thing is that KU's defense was good enough last night to win.  My only hope is that Weis hires an offensive coordinator and switches to a spread system next year (well, either that, or he resigns). 


 :'bye cruel world:

You'll be fine, Smock.  Charlie just needs to recruit a Tom Brady.  Give him time and stay the course.


Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: sys on September 15, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
oh well.  thoughts on sams/waters, tho?
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: DQ12 on September 15, 2013, 01:00:11 PM
Hard realization to have.  It's like, where do you go from here?  Buyout another coach?  Just stop rock chalk saturday'ing? 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 01:02:17 PM
We is is really bad, Campo is worse
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:05:32 PM
Hard realization to have.  It's like, where do you go from here?  Buyout another coach?  Just stop rock chalk saturday'ing?


Yeah, that's the tough thing.  KU probably can't afford to buyout another coach right now.  If Weis tanks this year, we should just fire Zenger, and then give the new AD a chance to fire Charlie in year thr-ee or four (if he can't produce).  Force Charlie to hire a young, innovative offensive coordinator and keep his hands off the play calling.  It worked with Mangino, maybe it'll work with Weis.


 :dunno:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: DQ12 on September 15, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
Not having the money to fire someone has always been an interesting concept to me.  Some of the kids on phog are advocating for bringing Mangino back.  Wonder if he'd ever consider it.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 01:08:26 PM
You guys have really bad personnel to boot, so its not like a new coach would make much of a difference.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Kat Kid on September 15, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
I have no idea how KU thinks the stadium is going to get renovated/{(re?)built} in the midst of all that.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: sys on September 15, 2013, 01:10:23 PM
oh well.  thoughts on sams/waters, tho?

it's my thought that it's pretty well established that waters sucks, but not established that sams doesn't.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
I have no idea how KU thinks the stadium is going to get renovated/{(re?)built} in the midst of all that.


That's the thing... Gill/Weis have probably set the program back about ten years.  The stadium renovation would likely be done right now if Mangino was still the coach. 


 :bawl:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
T's & P's BMW -I know you love your team
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Kat Kid on September 15, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
T's & P's BMW -I know you love your team

Yeah.  It is like this new guy at the office is a huge KU football fan, season tix, goes to every game, former band member and I know this has to be killing him.  He is a nice guy.  Just hope they get a conference win or two.  Some sign of progress.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: kim carnes on September 15, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
oregonsmock, Snyder sucks too  :frown:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 15, 2013, 01:13:41 PM
I saw a grown ass man cry last night, at the well, after the loss. It's really sad what he's doing to your fan base.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 01:14:02 PM
As pointed out above, your facilities are embarrassing as well, so that's a hurdle.  Also, Mangino sucks, he's just really good when compared to how atrocious Ku is as a program.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
oh well.  thoughts on sams/waters, tho?

it's my thought that it's pretty well established that waters sucks, but not established that sams doesn't.


I've only seen Sams in limited action, but from what I've seen, he's the prototypical K-State stud option QB.  Waters, on the other hand... I'm not sure what Snyder sees in him.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: DQ12 on September 15, 2013, 01:15:08 PM
T's & P's BMW -I know you love your team
Yeah.  Beems is a good KU fan for sure.  He deserves better.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2013, 01:17:36 PM
KU's defense is decent.  Weis is a horrific play caller and his arrogance hurts KU.

If I were calling plays last night Sims gets 30 carries. 

Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: wabash909 on September 15, 2013, 01:18:58 PM
Keep your chin up, Beems.  The Ron Prince era wasn't fun for us either. 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
KU's defense is decent.  Weis is a horrific play caller and his arrogance hurts KU.

If I were calling plays last night Sims gets 30 carries. 




Agreed.  I would have also given at least t-en carries to Pierson and Miller. 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: sys on September 15, 2013, 01:21:51 PM
I've only seen Sams in limited action, but from what I've seen, he's the prototypical K-State stud option QB.

yeah, me too.  he seems to be good at whatever it is he does.  but, it's not like snyder has been reluctant to play qbs that run well and can't pass before.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 15, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
Keep your chin up, Beems.  The Ron Prince era wasn't fun for us either.
He was still a better coach than Turner and Weis combined. Which is rough ridin' scary.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2013, 01:25:02 PM
Only 24 total carries for KU's backs . . .  :'bye cruel world:

You've got a back avg. 5.7 yards a rush that's a strong kid with decent size and he gets 19 carries and you're desperate to win a game against a D1A opponent on the road?

Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: wetwillie on September 15, 2013, 01:26:56 PM
Yea a new AD could probably do to weis what currie did to frank. Save a buyout and get a new coach.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: ChiComCat on September 15, 2013, 01:29:14 PM
If Weis gets a win somewhere and finds a way to call it a slight improvement, he will sell some other team on his shtick and leave town.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Only 24 total carries for KU's backs . . .  :'bye cruel world:

You've got a back avg. buzz.7 yards a rush that's a strong kid with decent size and he gets 19 carries and you're desperate to win a game against a D1A opponent on the road?


This play calling from the first half epitomizes the genius of Charlie Weis:

KU has a nice little drive going.  It's 1st and t-en from the Rice 25... first play Weis calls is a designed lateral pass to a walk-on punt returner, which gets overthrown and fumbled out of bounds for a loss of tw-elve yards.  The offense ends up sputtering back to the original line of scrimmage, only to miss a 47-yard field goal.  Instead of running the ball on 1st down and getting closer to the red zone, Weis gambles for no reason and ends up killing the drive. 


 :flush:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: star seed 7 on September 15, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
Maybe it will work out  :dunno:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Pete on September 15, 2013, 01:38:50 PM
Charlie adds no value if he's not calling the plays, does he? 

Cheyenne is going to die on this hill.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 01:39:21 PM
Actually, kus defense sucks hard.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 01:41:43 PM
Charlie adds no value if he's not calling the plays, does he? 

Cheyenne is going to die on this hill.


Charlie has no value aside from dealing with the media and recruiting.  The playbook should be as far away from him as possible. 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 01:45:02 PM
Charlie adds no value if he's not calling the plays, does he? 

Cheyenne is going to die on this hill.


Charlie has no value aside from dealing with the media and recruiting.  The playbook should be as far away from him as possible.

If kus goal is to look as stupid as possible in front of the media and recruit really bad players, this is definitely true
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Panjandrum on September 15, 2013, 01:45:55 PM
Charlie adds no value if he's not calling the plays, does he? 

Cheyenne is going to die on this hill.

Everyone wears blinders for their own team.  But it should have been very telling that Zulu wasn't really heavily considered for our gig when Currie was hired, especially with all of his ties here.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: eastcat on September 15, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
KU should hiring the Pitt State coaching staff. Surely they can afford that.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Rams on September 15, 2013, 02:01:48 PM
You guys were right.  Weis is a joke.  His offense is outdated and his play calling is atrocious.  The sad thing is that KU's defense was good enough last night to win.  My only hope is that Weis hires an offensive coordinator and switches to a spread system next year (well, either that, or he resigns). 


 :'bye cruel world:
I hope this makes you finally realize that we're about as unbiased a group of fans as you can get when it comes to ku football.  next time just come ask us whether you made a good hire and we'll tell you the truth.  weis is/was always in this for one final paycheck and doesn't really give a crap whether he wins or not because he's know from the jump that ku is in no position to buy him out.  tom brady has made a whole shitload of people a whole shitload of money.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: OregonSmock on September 15, 2013, 02:05:21 PM
You guys were right.  Weis is a joke.  His offense is outdated and his play calling is atrocious.  The sad thing is that KU's defense was good enough last night to win.  My only hope is that Weis hires an offensive coordinator and switches to a spread system next year (well, either that, or he resigns). 


 :'bye cruel world:
I hope this makes you finally realize that we're about as unbiased a group of fans as you can get when it comes to ku football.  next time just come ask us whether you made a good hire and we'll tell you the truth.  weis is/was always in this for one final paycheck and doesn't really give a crap whether he wins or not because he's know from the jump that ku is in no position to buy him out.  tom brady has made a whole shitload of people a whole shitload of money.



Not sure this is true, but I do appreciate most of your guys' opinion.  I hope Weis proves me wrong, but at this point, I'll just be happy if KU can beat La Tech. 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: CNS on September 15, 2013, 02:08:26 PM
I am pretty amazed it has take  this long for chuck to lose the aura that rubbed off from belicheck.  Chuck is a genius to have.maintained it this long, imo.  I mean, how long has it been since he was part of a successful season?
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: p1k3 on September 15, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
is Rice's kicker still ridiculous?
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 15, 2013, 02:10:47 PM
All those rings tho
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: DQ12 on September 15, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
is Rice's kicker still ridiculous?
Yeah.  He hit a 57 yarder to take the lead last night.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: ChiComCat on September 15, 2013, 02:29:53 PM
KU will beat LaTech.  LaTech lost to Tulane, that lost to Southern Alabama.  Basically, LaTech is the ass end of that human centipede.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 15, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
I like how Ku fans collectively convinced themselves that their 1-11 season was actually an improvement over Turner's season before.  So deluded

The offense is demonstabely worse under charlie, the defense has improved from redefining historically bad to just historically bad. 
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: felix rex on September 15, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
From a historical perspective, Kansans in general should appreciate how interesting our teams have been when they're terrible recently.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: wiley on September 15, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
I like how Ku fans collectively convinced themselves that their 1-11 season was actually an improvement over Turner's season before.  So deluded

The offense is demonstabely worse under charlie, the defense has improved from redefining historically bad to just historically bad.

Pierson and Sims deserve better.  I really did figure weis was better than this.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 15, 2013, 06:59:07 PM
weird. I think Weis will be fine. :dunno:   Not great. just meh...which is an improvement.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: chum1 on September 15, 2013, 07:00:06 PM
Weis would start Sams.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: star seed 7 on September 15, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
chuck is lucky that he doesn't have to play mu.  ku expects to lose to ksu, but losing to mu would really tick them off.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: catzacker on September 15, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
True story: between the two qb's ksu was looking to get weiss was glad we got waters instead of nick marshall (who is at auburn now and just lead auburn on a game winning drive against mississippi state.  Auburn is 3-0 now).
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: CNS on September 15, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
Weis would start Sams.

Then ruin the crap out of him.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 15, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
I can't wait to seat jump at the KU game in the 2nd quarter when all the KU fans who shelled out big bucks for those 50 yd line seats head home to look at wiggins youtube videos.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Havs on September 15, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
I'm literally contemplating flying to Oregon, just to give Beems a big hug and cry with him.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Pete on September 15, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
I'm literally contemplating flying to Oregon, just to give Beems a big hug and cry with him.

We'll be in a similar position within 5 years (probably sooner than we all think).
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Skipper44 on September 15, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
Weis would start Sams.
lol
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: kso_FAN on September 15, 2013, 08:51:19 PM
Shocking. (http://www.briancombs.net/775/)
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: kim carnes on September 15, 2013, 09:10:29 PM
I'm literally contemplating flying to Oregon, just to give Beems a big hug and cry with him.

We'll be in a similar position within 5 years (probably sooner than we all think).

I doubt it will take that long.
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Katpappy on September 15, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
I'm literally contemplating flying to Oregon, just to give Beems a big hug and cry with him.

We'll be in a similar position within 5 years (probably sooner than we all think).

I doubt it will take that long.
So you agree Snyder can't be replaced with a DITR.  But yet you want to get rid of him.  You are one stupid MF'er.  :lol:
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: Rams on September 15, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Shocking. (http://www.briancombs.net/775/)
pffft
Title: Re: Weis sucks
Post by: POWL on September 16, 2013, 11:13:51 AM
I can't wait to seat jump at the KU game in the 2nd quarter when all the KU fans who shelled out big bucks for those 50 yd line seats head home to look at wiggins youtube videos.


:lol: