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Offense
WR Lockett
Miller
Klein
LT Lucas
Cooper
LG Whitehair
Ash
C Finney
Liddle
RG Stiverson
Taylor
RT Rooks
Kleinsorge
TE McDonald
Trujillo
QB Waters
Sams
FB Gronkowski
Nemechek
RB Hubert
Rose
WR Sexton
Burton
WR Thompson
Johnson
Defense
DE Mueller
Finau
DT Reed
Hood OR Brown
DT Britz
Coleman OR Seiwert
DE Bryant
Dowling
SLB Walker
Moore
MLB Slaughter
Davis
WLB Truman
Johnson
CB Roberts
Burns
SS Barnett
Green
FS Zimmerman
Schellenberg
CB Evans
Daily
Miller and Lucas will play Friday. 2 of the true Frosh will not redshirt.
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
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must be pre-broken foot?
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
Good chance for Zim to set the season record for tackles this year.
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
I don't expect the 4-3 base linebackers to be the same as the nickel linebackers.
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must be pre-broken foot?
:dunno:
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
I don't expect the 4-3 base linebackers to be the same as the nickel linebackers.
Yep, we will be in nickel for at least 2/3 of our snaps this year. I think we can find two serviceable linebackers out of that bunch.
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surprised that Roberts is starting at cb. that dude is tiny.
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must be pre-broken foot?
:dunno:
Yeah, not sure either. Also, figuring Willis must be one of the non-redshirts but wonder about the other...Wood? Cre Moore?
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THAT OFFENSE! :excited:
that defense :facepalm:
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cautiously optimistic about the defense.
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Tre is starting at strong side LB :sdeek:
Wooof
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Tre is starting at strong side LB :sdeek:
Wooof
:dubious:
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cautiously optimistic about the defense.
me too. we will be in the nickel a lot and should be able to find two lbs who are adequate.
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Hopefully this Defense is better than the high school squad WVU put out last season...
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I think the dline is going to be a strength. even without FP nash
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Hopefully this Defense is better than the high school squad WVU put out last season...
Klein's QBR for that game was top 10 for the season. It really is absurd how bad they were.
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cautiously optimistic about the defense.
me too. we will be in the nickel a lot and should be able to find two lbs who are adequate.
yep
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which two frosh aren't red-shirting?
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which two frosh aren't red-shirting?
I'd like to see Cre Moore on special teams.
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which two frosh aren't red-shirting?
I'd like to see Cre Moore on special teams.
Was hoping the same, but then I realized Snyder could just as easily be referring to Seiwert and McCrane and not Willis/Moore.
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
I don't expect the 4-3 base linebackers to be the same as the nickel linebackers.
Yep, we will be in nickel for at least 2/3 of our snaps this year. I think we can find two serviceable linebackers out of that bunch.
cautiously optimistic about the defense.
me too. we will be in the nickel a lot and should be able to find two lbs who are adequate.
Crap, I'll just be in the stands cheering you guys on. :D
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please note that the two nickel linebackers will be slaughter and truman, at least at the start of games.
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which two frosh aren't red-shirting?
I'd like to see Cre Moore on special teams.
Was hoping the same, but then I realized Snyder could just as easily be referring to Seiwert and McCrane and not Willis/Moore.
I hope we don't burn anybody's redshirt just to get them on the field for special teams.
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
I don't expect the 4-3 base linebackers to be the same as the nickel linebackers.
Yep, we will be in nickel for at least 2/3 of our snaps this year. I think we can find two serviceable linebackers out of that bunch.
cautiously optimistic about the defense.
me too. we will be in the nickel a lot and should be able to find two lbs who are adequate.
Crap, I'll just be in the stands cheering you guys on. :D
you are allowed to say 'we' when talking with fans of the same team, katdaddy. and i won't apologize for not reading posts from mixed-nutz and ksudeuce either.
:don'tcare:
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Our LB's will be fine. Our DL is questionable besides Britz. Reed has never started, Mueller is more of a 3rd down rusher, and Marquel Bryant has never started. Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
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Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
Thanks Powercatobvious
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you cant reason with a feeling
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We are going to give up a lot of points. Those linebackers, yikes.
I don't expect the 4-3 base linebackers to be the same as the nickel linebackers.
Yep, we will be in nickel for at least 2/3 of our snaps this year. I think we can find two serviceable linebackers out of that bunch.
cautiously optimistic about the defense.
me too. we will be in the nickel a lot and should be able to find two lbs who are adequate.
Crap, I'll just be in the stands cheering you guys on. :D
you are allowed to say 'we' when talking with fans of the same team, katdaddy. and i won't apologize for not reading posts from mixed-nutz and ksudeuce either.
:don'tcare:
Khan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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please note that the two nickel linebackers will be slaughter and truman, at least at the start of games.
I don't see slaughter playing in the nickel package. Moore and Johnson are better suited for spread offenses.
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Some of my thoughts: Walker at SAM indicates the staff sees him about as they did last year before the injury and makes me think our LBs may struggle. Rose, I know Snyder likes the kid, but really? Have to assume it's a nod to a system kid and Robinson and Leverett will see time early on (this is fluid, I hope). Brown and Johnson making the 2 deep is impressive (though maybe scary). Think about this, if we could have held on to Spaight and Campbell is there any doubt they would be the starters? Someone on here said a cross between the 2010 and 2011 defense is likely. I tend to think we'll be okay because we have a lot of experience even if it isn't from past starters. Still, not entirely sure we won't see multiple bumps to the "Will the 2013 Defense Be a Disaster Thread" throughout the season.
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i think we will be a decent (not as decent as last year) scoring defense that gets ruthlessly exposed between the 20s but tightens up in the red zone where lb speed isnt as important
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please note that the two nickel linebackers will be slaughter and truman, at least at the start of games.
I don't see slaughter playing in the nickel package. Moore and Johnson are better suited for spread offenses.
well you will see it
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
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I am going into the season thinking the D will suck, but will become cautiously optimistic if we can get out of the non con giving up 30 points or less total.
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The defense is fine... Late Friday night and into Saturday you'll all be posting "Where did that D come from?!?! :sdeek: "
Meanwhile, what we SHOULD be discussing is how LHCBS schemed the crap out of 'em by listing 12 people on offense.
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
hi catzacker, how was your summer? mine was good.
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
QFT. i mean my god people, the DLine may be even worse than the LBs. Reed had like 1 tackle all of last year and now he's starting. Unless you're an idiot you should be able to infer that our DTs are god awful if he is starting.
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UNLESS YOU'RE AN IDIOT
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Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
Thanks Powercatobvious
Well it seems like some people think we'll have no problem replacing them this season.
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Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
Thanks Powercatobvious
Well it seems like some people think we'll have no problem replacing them this season.
Quote?
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
QFT. i mean my god people, the DLine may be even worse than the LBs. Reed had like 1 tackle all of last year and now he's starting. Unless you're an idiot you should be able to infer that our DTs are god awful if he is starting.
The sad thing is our defensive ends will probably be even worse. D-Line... :ohno:
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Upgrade at FB this year for sure.
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when i look at our depth chart for defense i can't help but think i want snyder fired.
chaquil reed: 2012: Played in four games, recording a tackle against Miami.
our recruiting is so bad that blake slaughter redshirted last year, apparently he or the coaches knew we wouldn't be able to find anyone better out on the recruiting trail so what the hell, we'll just have a senior (who sucks) redshirt and start next year. how does this happen? how? i mean how could this happen? am i the only person who finds this appalling?
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Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
Thanks Powercatobvious
Well it seems like some people think we'll have no problem replacing them this season.
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yeah no way any real fan said that unless it was extremely tongue in cheek
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Meshak and Davis are huge losses.
Thanks Powercatobvious
Well it seems like some people think we'll have no problem replacing them this season.
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yeah no way any real fan said that unless it was extremely tongue in cheek
There was some ass clown on this board who was very adamant that Meshack and Davis were system players with average athleticism, and that whatever bodies we threw out there would be able to come close to matching their production. I can't remember who it was or what thread it was in, and I'm too lazy to look it up.
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when i look at our depth chart for defense i can't help but think i want snyder fired.
chaquil reed: 2012: Played in four games, recording a tackle against Miami.
our recruiting is so bad that blake slaughter redshirted last year, apparently he or the coaches knew we wouldn't be able to find anyone better out on the recruiting trail so what the hell, we'll just have a senior (who sucks) redshirt and start next year. how does this happen? how? i mean how could this happen? am i the only person who finds this appalling?
Guess we finally found something KC is passionate about. Easily his longest post ever, followed by evidence for his claim. Virtually unheard of.
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Our defense will be second best in the big xii, again. Our secondary is gonna be the tits.
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Tre walker has spent his career at wlb and is now listed at SLB. He's going to be one of our two every down lbs this year.
As for chaquill reed I have no idea if he's any good or not but people were saying the same kind if crap about john sua and javonta Boyd last year and they played pretty well. Every year we have several guys step up and come out of nowhere.
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Our defense will be second best in the big xii, again. Our secondary is gonna be the tits.
go back to the toolbox where you belong
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Our defense will be second best in the big xii, again. Our secondary is gonna be the tits.
go back to the toolbox where you belong
Why don't you try and make me, Kim naysayer Cranes?
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
hi catzacker, how was your summer? mine was good.
Hello SD. Glad your summer was good. My summer was ok. Didn't get to go on a vacation so that's probably why I am a little grumpy. I am usually not like this. I hope Kansas State wins on Friday.
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Agreed on the Nickel and two linebackers. Still looking forward to seeing what the LBs can give us as especially sideline to sideline.
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so do some people actually believe the secondary is going to be good? if so, how? having one really good DB and 3 (or 4) mediocre DB's doesn't make a good secondary imo. am i rough ridin' crazy? did we recruit one rough ridin' guy who could come in and start on this defense? is that too much to ask for them to go out and recruit a couple of talented defensive players? do our coaches think we're paying them to work 5 months out of the year? b/c there is no gd way a person can look me in the eye and tell me this pathetic staff put any effort into recruiting. is there anyone who can tell me just what in the eff is going on? am i rough ridin' crazy?
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i'm waiting for someone to come in here and tell me that defensive depth chart is a joke. and just wtf is going on with our running back recruiting? hubert and rose have to be the worst 1-2 punch in the last 20 years of k-state football.
and to top it all off, if someone would have taught kevin lockett about protected sex in high school, our receiving corp would be a complete rough ridin' joke.
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:)
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:popcorn:
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He might actually have a point about Rose and Hubert. Unless Sams ends up starting or something because Klein or Angelo Pease sure ain't coming thru that door.
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He might actually have a point about Rose and Hubert. Unless Sams ends up starting or something because Klein or Angelo Pease sure ain't coming thru that door.
I'm extremely nervous that Sams is going to be relegated to Pease's 2012 role this year. He will obviously be much better at it but I hope he sees alot more playing time then Pease did.
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i'm waiting for someone to come in here and tell me that defensive depth chart is a joke. and just wtf is going on with our running back recruiting? hubert and rose have to be the worst 1-2 punch in the last 20 years of k-state football.
and to top it all off, if someone would have taught kevin lockett about protected sex in high school, our receiving corp would be a complete rough ridin' joke.
Man, take your whiny and bitchy attitude to the Royals board, it is expected and welcome over there......don't be bringing down my excitement for the season w/ this crap :shakesfist:
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
good job kim
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i'm waiting for someone to come in here and tell me that defensive depth chart is a joke. and just wtf is going on with our running back recruiting? hubert and rose have to be the worst 1-2 punch in the last 20 years of k-state football.
and to top it all off, if someone would have taught kevin lockett about protected sex in high school, our receiving corp would be a complete rough ridin' joke.
Man, take your whiny and bitchy attitude to the Royals board, it is expected and welcome over there......don't be bringing down my excitement for the season w/ this crap :shakesfist:
Always a pessimist
:confused:
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I think the whole D-Line will be OK mainly becuase we will be rotating so many players in and out that they will all be pretty fresh. We are deep with meh players, no studs. I do expect the secondary to be better than last year.
Just keep dreaming of Miami Tre and you can see the 2nd best D in the Big 12 :lynchmob:
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I think the whole D-Line will be OK mainly becuase we will be rotating so many players in and out that they will all be pretty fresh. We are deep with meh players, no studs. I do expect the secondary to be better than last year.
Just keep dreaming of Miami Tre and you can see the 2nd best D in the Big 12 :lynchmob:
The secondary was pretty damn good last year. I think the secondary is going to be ok but I don't get the notion that we are in great shape there? We've got one corner that has played at all and the others all seem kind of meh or worse.
Both of our starting corners initially came to KSU as walk ons. Both of our starting safety's were two star grey shirts with no real d-1 interest aside from KSU. I guess we're going to test the stars don't matter theory in the secondary this year.
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
Hubert is a slightly above average big 12 back at best.
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
Hubert is a slightly above average big 12 back at best.
You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State. By the way, number one is Darren Sproles. :gocho:
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
Hubert is a slightly above average big 12 back at best.
You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State. By the way, number one is Darrin Sproles. :gocho:
:D
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Hubert was first team all big 12 last year and people are calling our RB situation the worst in 20 years? I don't really believe that Rose is going to be our primary backup at RB. Even if he is I"m not going to worry about it unless Hubert gets hurt. Snyder pretty much likes to pick his one favorite back and go with him.
Hubert is a slightly above average big 12 back at best.
That is probably a fair statement talent wise. But when you account for other factors (experience, toughness, dependablity, durablity etc.) he's better then that. I'll be the first to admit Hubert is a capable but not outstanding player who has benefited greatly from being in the right place at the right time. Still with him back for his senior year I don't see RB as a weakness.
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Why the hate on Hubert? One of the top O-Lines in the country, Hubs will have more carries, and with SDS.xxx's passing threat, he'll easily be a 1,000 yard rusher again this year.
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Why the hate on Hubert? One of the top O-Lines in the country, Hubs will have more carries, and with SDS.xxx's passing threat, he'll easily be a 1,000 yard rusher again this year.
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Hubert is incredible, just not sexy.
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Why the hate on Hubert? One of the top O-Lines in the country, Hubs will have more carries, and with SDS.xxx's passing threat, he'll easily be a 1,000 yard rusher again this year.
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Wonder how many yards he needs to top our number 1 RB in K-State history. We all know by the end of this season he will be number 2. There's a reason why he broke all time rushing records at his high school. :excited:
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Why the hate on Hubert? One of the top O-Lines in the country, Hubs will have more carries, and with SDS.xxx's passing threat, he'll easily be a 1,000 yard rusher again this year.
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I flashbacked to his highschool days apparently.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
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He had 5 yards a carry. :dunno: He just doesn't get the ball often?
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
no that can't be right Sproles rushed for nearly 2,000 yards his junior year and also had big yardage his sophomore and senior years. Sproles has to be way out of reach from Hubert.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
no that can't be right Sproles rushed for nearly 2,000 yards his junior year and also had big yardage his sophomore and senior years. Sproles has to be way out of reach from Hubert.
Sproles had 4,979 for his career.
Hubert currently has around 1,900.
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:lol:
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:whiffffffff:
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i'm waiting for someone to come in here and tell me that defensive depth chart is a joke. and just wtf is going on with our running back recruiting? hubert and rose have to be the worst 1-2 punch in the last 20 years of k-state football.
and to top it all off, if someone would have taught kevin lockett about protected sex in high school, our receiving corp would be a complete rough ridin' joke.
Man, take your whiny and bitchy attitude to the Royals board, it is expected and welcome over there......don't be bringing down my excitement for the season w/ this crap :shakesfist:
Always a pessimist
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Nice catch........I don't know what came over me.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
Scott was either born after 1995 or kidding. I think he was kidding.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
Scott was either born after 1995 or kidding. I think he was kidding.
Maybe he's off because he didn't get his 9 hours of uninterrupted sleep last night.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
1000 yards won't make him the top-rated RB ever at K-State, or the second-rated, or even in the top 5 imo.
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you have no idea how Katdaddy rates running backs
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you have no idea how Katdaddy rates running backs
Guessing "leg shaving" is a criterion...
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you have no idea how Katdaddy rates running backs
Guessing "leg shaving" is a criterion...
that is a good one, hopefully he will give us a full breakdown
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you have no idea how Katdaddy rates running backs
Guessing "leg shaving" is a criterion...
that is a good one, hopefully he will give us a full breakdown
That's a subject for the other thread. :D
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Hubert is basically an Eric Hickson clone. They both have had solid careers, but that's more due to the fact that we were unable to recruit over them than it was due to their talent.
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Let's give the guy a chance and see what he does this season. After two years behind the greatest QB/RB combo in K-State history, he will finally get his chance.
I think we will be surprised. :crossfingers:
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
Scott was either born after 1995 or kidding. I think he was kidding.
was attempting to be funny. failed at that obviously.
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Hubert is basically an Eric Hickson clone. They both have had solid careers, but that's more due to the fact that we were unable to recruit over them than it was due to their talent.
:facepalm: Bryce Brown didn't play a head of him. We would of been hard pressed to find someone that would of played ahead of him because of how effing amazing he is at doing everything well. :curse:
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Hubert is basically an Eric Hickson clone. They both have had solid careers, but that's more due to the fact that we were unable to recruit over them than it was due to their talent.
:facepalm: Bryce Brown didn't play a head of him. We would of been hard pressed to find someone that would of played ahead of him because of how effing amazing he is at doing everything well. :curse:
This a stupid rough ridin' talking point. Bryce Brown would have been much more productive than John Hubert, he just didn't feel like putting any effort into becoming a better blocker, so Snyder refused to play him. Bryce Brown probably would have broken Sproles' career rushing record if he started as many games as Hubert at KSU. Don't be a dumbass.
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so do some people actually believe the secondary is going to be good? if so, how? having one really good DB and 3 (or 4) mediocre DB's doesn't make a good secondary imo. am i rough ridin' crazy? did we recruit one rough ridin' guy who could come in and start on this defense? is that too much to ask for them to go out and recruit a couple of talented defensive players? do our coaches think we're paying them to work 5 months out of the year? b/c there is no gd way a person can look me in the eye and tell me this pathetic staff put any effort into recruiting. is there anyone who can tell me just what in the eff is going on? am i rough ridin' crazy?
If I know Kim, and I think I do, then this post means he's cautiously optimistic about our defense. :emawkid:
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cautiously optimistic about the defense.
confidently pessimistic about the defense.
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We are replacing 3 of 4 starters on the DL and "adequate LB's" who really didn't sniff the field at all last year are making people cautiously optimistic?
Buy lotto tickets.
will be interesting if there is any changes at LB to the depth chart. i doubt it.
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You do know that Hubert only needs a little over 500 yards this season to become the second highest rated RB of all time at K-State.
:D
1000 yds and I think he is #1 I believe.
no that can't be right Sproles rushed for nearly 2,000 yards his junior year and also had big yardage his sophomore and senior years. Sproles has to be way out of reach from Hubert.
But it’s not only the idea of breaking 1,000 yards in one season that excited Hubert – if he has another 900-plus-yard season, he’d be sitting at No. 2 all-time in K-State rushing yard history behind only Darren Sproles.
“He’s really got to take care of himself and his body so he can also get to that 905 mark that we mentioned to him earlier,” Dimel explained. “It’s a big one to put him as the second-leading rusher in the history of the program.”
Going into his final season as a Wildcat, Hubert has been named to the preseason All-Big 12 team and is on Maxwell and Doak Walker award watch lists. He said he is excited to see how the season unfolds, and with majority of the offense returning from last year, he has high hopes of continuing his success between the white lines.
:Haha: :whistle1: :Woohoo:
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Hubert is basically an Eric Hickson clone. They both have had solid careers, but that's more due to the fact that we were unable to recruit over them than it was due to their talent.
:facepalm: Bryce Brown didn't play a head of him. We would of been hard pressed to find someone that would of played ahead of him because of how effing amazing he is at doing everything well. :curse:
This a stupid rough ridin' talking point. Bryce Brown would have been much more productive than John Hubert, he just didn't feel like putting any effort into becoming a better blocker, so Snyder refused to play him. Bryce Brown probably would have broken Sproles' career rushing record if he started as many games as Hubert at KSU. Don't be a dumbass.
Face it. Bryce Brown sucked.
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Hubert is basically an Eric Hickson clone. They both have had solid careers, but that's more due to the fact that we were unable to recruit over them than it was due to their talent.
:facepalm: Bryce Brown didn't play a head of him. We would of been hard pressed to find someone that would of played ahead of him because of how effing amazing he is at doing everything well. :curse:
This a stupid rough ridin' talking point. Bryce Brown would have been much more productive than John Hubert, he just didn't feel like putting any effort into becoming a better blocker, so Snyder refused to play him. Bryce Brown probably would have broken Sproles' career rushing record if he started as many games as Hubert at KSU. Don't be a dumbass.
Face it. Bryce Brown sucked.
Just another Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) who bought into the idea that Bryce Brown couldn't block or some other nonsense.
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Bryce was pretty useless