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Title: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: bulldogbuster on August 14, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: eastcat on August 14, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Ohh, Travis green is second on the depth chart at safety. DONT DOUBT EASTCAT  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Shooter Jones on August 14, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on August 14, 2013, 04:29:57 PM
Winters showed me the depth chart last Tuesday. Yawn
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: PowercatPat on August 14, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
Our defense looks like crap. I really hope there are a few DITR's on there.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Harry Doyle on August 14, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
No Gronk. :flush:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: PowercatPat on August 14, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
No Gronk. :flush:

Switch the offense to "Power I" at the top and he's the #1 FB.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Harry Doyle on August 14, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
No Gronk. :flush:

Switch the offense to "Power I" at the top and he's the #1 FB.

 :pray: thank god.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: pvegs on August 14, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
All I keep reading is how we might be underrated and surprise people on D, but I squint and quint at that depth chart and just don't see it.  We're average to not very good at LB, DT, DE, and corner. Safety is strong. Even if AB was back for another year, I'd still say this is a middle of the pack D.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: _33 on August 14, 2013, 04:51:57 PM
All I keep reading is how we might be underrated and surprise people on D, but I squint and quint at that depth chart and just don't see it.

They'll surprise the people who think they will be good with how mediocre they are.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: deputy dawg on August 14, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
I like the name of the backup long snapper, "Dalton Converse".  Outlaw name + athletic shoe name
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kostakio on August 14, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

I'm pretty sure Snyder said Evans was going play both spots.  IE he'll play outside in one of the regular corner spots in the base set and play in the nickel inside spot in the nickel package.  David Garrett did the same thing the year before last. 
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2013, 05:01:31 PM
I'm optimistic, but in a KC Chiefs 2003 kinda way. Score a crap load and pray for turnovers, cause that D is gonna get raped.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: _33 on August 14, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
I just looked up the roster pictures of all our defensive starters and I think we are in trouble.  They did not pass the eye test.  In fact they failed the eye test and then they had to take the all essay retake version of the eye test and they failed that too so they were allowed to just correct their answers for half credit and finally got a D+.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: MadCat on August 14, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
I just looked up the roster pictures of all our defensive starters and I think we are in trouble.  They did not pass the eye test.  In fact they failed the eye test and then they had to take the all essay retake version of the eye test and they failed that too so they were allowed to just correct their answers for half credit and finally got a D+.
D+ is the grade instructors use when they don't want to see a kid ever again.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: scottwildcat on August 14, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

laughable. Evans will always be on the field.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: PowercatPat on August 14, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

laughable. Evans will always be on the field.

Like I said about Gronk earlier, switch to the other formation on defense and he is on there.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: scottwildcat on August 14, 2013, 06:27:09 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

laughable. Evans will always be on the field.

Like I said about Gronk earlier, switch to the other formation on defense and he is on there.

I did, but he will be on the field in a 4-3.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: scottwildcat on August 14, 2013, 06:28:02 PM
Not sure if its speculative, a Fitz mirage or otherwise but they've updated the depth chart.

Nothing shocking, other than Evans not being listed, which I assume suggests he's still the dedicated nickle/flex DB.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

laughable. Evans will always be on the field.

Like I said about Gronk earlier, switch to the other formation on defense and he is on there.

I did, but he will be on the field in a 4-3.

Which is why I said always be on the field.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Harry Doyle on August 14, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
I'm optimistic, but in a KC Chiefs 2003 kinda way. Score a crap load and pray for turnovers, cause that D is gonna get raped.

This is how it will be this year. Bet the farm on it.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 14, 2013, 11:20:22 PM
People that think our defense is going to be bad are mouthbreathing mongoloids.  Mods, please add all these people and their posts to the mongoloid master thread.  TIA

We're not plugging gaps with spring signed jucos, program guys are stepping into the starting roles.  This is how its supposed to work, idiots.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Trogdor on August 15, 2013, 12:30:29 AM
All I see are champs.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 15, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
People that think our defense is going to be bad are mouthbreathing mongoloids.  Mods, please add all these people and their posts to the mongoloid master thread.  TIA

We're not plugging gaps with spring signed jucos, program guys are stepping into the starting roles.  This is how its supposed to work, idiots.

Thanks for being a voice of reason, FSD...

Also, who the eff believes any information that comes from GPC that is not the direct product of one of Fitz's minions transcribing a press conference.  We all know damn well that no depth chart info has been released to anybody.

Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: _33 on August 15, 2013, 08:18:43 AM
People that think our defense is going to be bad are mouthbreathing mongoloids.  Mods, please add all these people and their posts to the mongoloid master thread.  TIA

We're not plugging gaps with spring signed jucos, program guys are stepping into the starting roles.  This is how its supposed to work, idiots.

Well you could have said it in a nicer way but thank you for this perspective.  I hadn't really thought of it that way and I'm more optimistic now than I was.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: EllToPay on August 15, 2013, 08:37:44 AM
All I see are champs.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 15, 2013, 09:04:22 AM
okay so we have a decent secondary imo dante, evans, 1y, and kippy should be better with more speed than last year not to mention adorbs cre moore probably starting by conference play

mediocre to semi decent lb's depending on the nickel set in biscuits, slaughter, and truman (i see moore breaking out this year) this is probably our weakest spot but if tre is back to 2012 form we might be able to hide it

and a serviceable dline with a crap load of upside with brown, hood, britz, chaq and roberts.

CONFIDENCE RISING FELLAS
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
Title: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 15, 2013, 10:23:26 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.
Yes, on Opposite Day.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2013, 10:24:44 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?

yeah, it's weird that it gets used around here so much
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 15, 2013, 10:24:44 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 15, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs

true but with how fast the game moves in this new hurry up quick out screen happy offenses you really need your lb's and corners to be fast and be able to contain. Its hard to get pressure these days with how fast the ball comes out. Hopefully Kip steps up like i think he can. I feel pretty good about our corners.

my biggest worry is if tre can move sideline to sideline with that knee
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2013, 10:45:29 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs

true but with how fast the game moves in this new hurry up quick out screen happy offenses you really need your lb's and corners to be fast and be able to contain. Its hard to get pressure these days with how fast the ball comes out. Hopefully Kip steps up like i think he can. I feel pretty good about our corners.

my biggest worry is if tre can move sideline to sideline with that knee

tre couldn't do that before the knee so I don't hold out a lot of hope
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 15, 2013, 10:48:47 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs

true but with how fast the game moves in this new hurry up quick out screen happy offenses you really need your lb's and corners to be fast and be able to contain. Its hard to get pressure these days with how fast the ball comes out. Hopefully Kip steps up like i think he can. I feel pretty good about our corners.

my biggest worry is if tre can move sideline to sideline with that knee

tre couldn't do that before the knee so I don't hold out a lot of hope

does he have arthur speed? of course not. but he showed he can move pretty good down in miami, i think a lot on here underrate his speed
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on August 15, 2013, 11:07:24 AM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs

true but with how fast the game moves in this new hurry up quick out screen happy offenses you really need your lb's and corners to be fast and be able to contain. Its hard to get pressure these days with how fast the ball comes out. Hopefully Kip steps up like i think he can. I feel pretty good about our corners.

my biggest worry is if tre can move sideline to sideline with that knee

tre couldn't do that before the knee so I don't hold out a lot of hope

does he have arthur speed? of course not. but he showed he can move pretty good down in miami, i think a lot on here underrate his speed
Have a lot of trouble thinking Dakorey Johnson will not be starting by confrence play. His length and speed should make him our best coverage linebacker, something you need in the BIG 12.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: MadCat on August 15, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2013, 11:24:52 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

how does that help?
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: PIPE on August 15, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Hey, Dakorey Johnson is 2nd team LB.....that kid must be a huge stud cause hasn't he only been here for like a day or 2?????  The must like his quickness when putting on his pants :dunno:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2013, 11:47:08 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

how does that help?

hey look at the mong, just monging around
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2013, 11:55:31 AM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

how does that help?

hey look at the mong, just monging around

hey look at the racist, just racing around
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2013, 12:01:30 PM
sorry i guess we all now know what the "mo" is short for, "mocat"
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: MadCat on August 15, 2013, 12:02:56 PM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

how does that help?

It spares the mongols.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 15, 2013, 12:03:39 PM
Welp looks like another brown thread
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: ManBearTurkey on August 15, 2013, 12:12:20 PM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

You can not hide your linebackers. They are the most crucial part of a defense, DTs are close but your LBs are your defense.

Even with all the spread offenses, if you are weak where the ball is snapped everything else you try to do on defense will become FUBAR. You will still be exploited from the inside out.

Asking Evans to shed an OG a few times in a specific situation is fine, asking him to do it a lot, over the course of a game will be crippling.

Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 15, 2013, 12:20:27 PM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

how does that help?

hey look at the mong, just monging around

hey look at the racist, just racing around

http://www.greghartwig.com/sounds/hill/WhitHate.wav

 “What the hell kinda country is this where I can only hate a man if he’s white?” - Hank Hill

Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on August 15, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

You can not hide your linebackers. They are the most crucial part of a defense, DTs are close but your LBs are your defense.

Even with all the spread offenses, if you are weak where the ball is snapped everything else you try to do on defense will become FUBAR. You will still be exploited from the inside out.

Asking Evans to shed an OG a few times in a specific situation is fine, asking him to do it a lot, over the course of a game will be crippling.
Agree, have to to be strong up the middle DT,MLB and S.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: SabiNation on August 15, 2013, 12:40:41 PM
HFBIQ'ers: Which of our linebackers, if any, has the best chance to be a possible Tuggle replacement (QB blitzer specialist guy)?

TIA
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: 'taterblast on August 15, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
HFBIQ'ers: Which of our linebackers, if any, has the best chance to be a possible Tuggle replacement (QB blitzer specialist guy)?

TIA

wouldn't be surprised to see Truman fill that role. won't be as good as Tuggle but he's quick and really strong for his size.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: SabiNation on August 15, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
HFBIQ'ers: Which of our linebackers, if any, has the best chance to be a possible Tuggle replacement (QB blitzer specialist guy)?

TIA

wouldn't be surprised to see Truman fill that role. won't be as good as Tuggle but he's quick and really strong for his size.

Like, how strong?
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: _33 on August 15, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

a good DL will hide the crap out of bad CBs

true but with how fast the game moves in this new hurry up quick out screen happy offenses you really need your lb's and corners to be fast and be able to contain. Its hard to get pressure these days with how fast the ball comes out. Hopefully Kip steps up like i think he can. I feel pretty good about our corners.

my biggest worry is if tre can move sideline to sideline with that knee

tre couldn't do that before the knee so I don't hold out a lot of hope

Maybe it will be like Rookie of the Year and he'll be super fast now and his knee will make squeaky noises when he runs.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2013, 01:46:25 PM
If there's one spot you'd be okay being weak at isn't LB it?  As long as the ends and the corners play we'll do alright.

I am not okay with being weak anywhere, that's unacceptable. But considering we will most likely have 5 db's out there for conference play i guess if i had to choose yes, lb would be the one like I said above you can hide a bit.

You can not hide your linebackers. They are the most crucial part of a defense, DTs are close but your LBs are your defense.

Even with all the spread offenses, if you are weak where the ball is snapped everything else you try to do on defense will become FUBAR. You will still be exploited from the inside out.

Asking Evans to shed an OG a few times in a specific situation is fine, asking him to do it a lot, over the course of a game will be crippling.

Gary Barnett disagrees with you.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 15, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
HFBIQ'ers: Which of our linebackers, if any, has the best chance to be a possible Tuggle replacement (QB blitzer specialist guy)?

TIA

Mike Moore
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: jtksu on August 15, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
why isn't "mongoloid" considered the most racist term in the English language?
I propose we change all instances of "mongoloid" to "caucusoid".

That's fine, as long as no one uses negroid at any time.  (Unless you are a negroid, then you can use it as much as you want.)
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: 97cat on August 17, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
I like the name of the backup long snapper, "Dalton Converse".  Outlaw name + athletic shoe name

Ehhh, he is no Jesse James Keds though, thats for sure
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: money on August 19, 2013, 07:19:11 AM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?

Or did he go home to be with his son?
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: jtksu on August 19, 2013, 01:00:23 PM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?

Or did he go home to be with his son?

Not on the roster.  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 19, 2013, 01:23:07 PM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?

Or did he go home to be with his son?

Not on the roster.  :don'tcare:

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/devon_nash_844617.html
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: jtksu on August 19, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?

Or did he go home to be with his son?

Not on the roster.  :don'tcare:

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/devon_nash_844617.html

I think I may have looked under "D."    :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: KCFDcat on August 19, 2013, 05:51:49 PM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: KSUBrian on August 19, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?

Either already identified as a RS candidate or on the scheme Dr's surprise list.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: kslim on August 19, 2013, 06:04:37 PM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Pretty sure it was well known he was gray/redshirting
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: KCFDcat on August 19, 2013, 06:12:12 PM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Pretty sure it was well known he was gray/redshirting

welp that confirms my dumb question statement.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: _33 on August 19, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Pretty sure it was well known he was gray/redshirting

Darn.  I love when true freshmen start or play a lot.  Because it's like whoa he's just a true freshmen and look what he's doing.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: slobber on August 19, 2013, 11:50:48 PM
is Devon Nash complete dog crap?

Or did he go home to be with his son?

Not on the roster.  :don'tcare:

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/devon_nash_844617.html

I think I may have looked under "D."    :embarrassed:
I lol'd.
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: KSUBrian on August 20, 2013, 12:28:32 AM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Pretty sure it was well known he was gray/redshirting

Definitely not a grey since he is on the roster @ kstatesports.com. Grey's don't show up until a new roster comes out next spring. 
Title: Re: GPC: Depth Chart.
Post by: jtksu on August 20, 2013, 12:38:19 AM
maybe a dumb question here, but why isn't Nick Ramirez on the depth chart? wasn't a a 4-star guy?
Pretty sure it was well known he was gray/redshirting

Definitely not a grey since he is on the roster @ kstatesports.com. Grey's don't show up until a new roster comes out next spring.

Also, he signed a LOI, which greys don't do .  Way too good to be a grey anyway.  Is he injured or something?  Can't imagine a dude like that would be automatically redshirted without a reason behind it.