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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: pissclams on June 25, 2013, 09:23:51 AM
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i think it's fair to admit that coach self has gotten the program to second tier status behind the traditional blue bloods like ucla, kentucky, duke, indiana. and despite what he had to do to get them there (LOIC, cheating scandals, porn addicted assistant coach), i would say they're firmly planted and respected in that second tier of programs.
but the guy is going to die sooner rather than later, and then what happens next? CBB is a dirty business and getting dirtier - in this respect, KU would seem to be positioned well as they've proven not to worry about the NCAA rule book. but at the same time, their chancellor is an academic. will she continue to let the reputation of their academics be smeared by the athletic department? i doubt it.
college programs that probably thought they would not miss a beat and are still struggling or took some time to reemerge from mediocrity after a regime change:
Alabama football
Notre Dame football
Nebraska Football
USC Football
Ohio State Football
Florida State Football
Indiana Basketball
UNLV basketabll
Houston Basketball
Kentucky Basketball
UNC Basketball
Michigan Basketball
UCLA Basketball
...and the list is much longer. don't underestimate how challenging it can be to follow a coaching legend. there are numerous examples in both football and basketball of programs struggling immediately after a legend hangs it up. even if the "legend" is built off of endless cheating scandals.
it's not too much of a stretch to say KU is self / self is ku and while good now, not Blue Blood.
on the other hand, epsn has their head shoved way to far up ku's ass for ku to ever decline, regardless of who takes over after coach self.
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fair question
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he lives fast. if that tells you anything.
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Ted Owens had them on the road to no where, in Ted's final season it wasn't unusual for ku to have 7-8,000 empty seats for games. I went and saw them play OU and the hated Billy Tubbs (they won BTW) and you could have shot a howitzer full of bird shot into the endzone area at both ends and maybe hit 200 people.
Dean Smith in all matter of speaking has bailed their ass out twice and Self had ties to ku from the Larry Brown era.
Danny Manning?
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lets say that they happen to hit the powerball again, after self dies. but then that coach dies. what happens then?
you usually don't hit the powerball more than one time, maybe twice, max.
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back in the crapper.
I'd be more concerned about him getting run up by the NCAA.
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THEY'RE mumped!!!
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Guys, I have heard that Paul Pierce owns a super expensive condo somewhere in Lawrence and that, even though he absolutely hates Lawrence, he is maintaining ownership so that he can come back and take the reigns and right the ship to the level of respectable payouts and illegitimate child management that KU had grown accustom to back in his day. No more of this stuff-being-reported-in-the-press bullshit.
Grumblings? Rumblings? You decide...
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The KU fans think they will be fine and that they can easily get big names to take a job in Lawrence. I don't think that is the case. Even some of the big names that KU has had in the past are largely nobody's outside of Lawrence, KS. Case in point, last night I had dinner with a business woman that works for a company that works with my company. She is a crazy college sports fan and really loves her Crimson Tide. She was keenly aware of who the Kansas State Wildcats are and she was
disappointed devastated when we lost last fall and failed to make it to the NC so her Tide would have had some real competition.
Anyway, she told me that on her flight into RDU she sat in front of some guy with grey (she said grey and not silver, which made me lol) hair and that another guy walked up to the grey haired guy and said, "Coach Williams, thank you for everything you have done for the program." This business lady/ college sports savant asked me if I had any idea who 'Coach Williams' was. She provided a hint saying that he had on a light blue/baby blue shirt. I said that it was probably Roy Williams, and that I only knew that because I was from KS and that she shouldn't feel bad because nobody in the South knows who he is.
So yeah, Wacky is probs right on this one.
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they'll be fine. they are a one-sport school, so they will focus their athletics department into keeping the hoops program (men) in the 2nd tier of the ncaa.
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Guys, I have a feeling that they will mush Paul until they hear from Brad Stevens. I really hope they get Brad. I mean, I have no idea if Paul is any better at coaching than he is at not getting stabbed a bunch in the face, but if they put everything they have to go all in on Brad and get turned down, I don't know if they could take that as an institution and recover as anything healthy on the other end.
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We dan hope they hire some loser coach who was freshly fired for failing at another BCS program, but I'm pretty sure they won't go that route.
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they'll be fine. they are a one-sport school, so they will focus their athletics department into keeping the hoops program (men) in the 2nd tier of the ncaa.
Track school.
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track isn't a sport
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Guys, what if they got Buzz and he danced all over the fOOD after killing us? It would hurt bad.
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Guys, I have a feeling that they will mush Paul until they hear from Brad Stevens. I really hope they get Brad. I mean, I have no idea if Paul is any better at coaching than he is at not getting stabbed a bunch in the face, but if they put everything they have to go all in on Brad and get turned down, I don't know if they could take that as an institution and recover as anything healthy on the other end.
stevens is going to duke imo
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Guys, I have a feeling that they will mush Paul until they hear from Brad Stevens. I really hope they get Brad. I mean, I have no idea if Paul is any better at coaching than he is at not getting stabbed a bunch in the face, but if they put everything they have to go all in on Brad and get turned down, I don't know if they could take that as an institution and recover as anything healthy on the other end.
stevens is going to duke imo
Agreed. Brad is ice cold. Brad won't be afraid of the best basketball job in the nation and shy away all the way to a second tier school.
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
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Both Brad and the VCU coach mushed KU already. THey sent out feelers when they thought Self might kill himself over this divorce.
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Really? http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11663263
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Really? http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11663263
And this! http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11509841
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Really? http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11663263
And this! http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11509841
some guy talking about making a bet is hardly a ksu thread, dig a little deeper.
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Really? http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11663263
And this! http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11509841
some guy talking about making a bet is hardly a ksu thread, dig a little deeper.
:facepalm:
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Glad you come here for all of the latest news and information about your school.
"goEMAW.com: Fair, balanced, accurate, to the point." That's what I always say.
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Tim, I understand this is hard to think about, but we are all dying. It's just a matter of when, but when you run your body in the red(nascar reference for the wt ku fans) all the time through huge job stress, huge amounts of infidelity leading to marriage stress, and large alcohol and most likely other illicit drug use the process tends to accelerate.
Living hard can be fun but your body doesn't like being treated like a dumpster that cheats on it's wife a bunch.
Chin up lil bro, life always moves on and time heals a bunch of wounds(other than a small few std's that can often come with banging so many party chicks with no regard for health).
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man it's great reading all of this....go over to KU forums and you don't see threads started about ksu, lol haters are soooo jealous.
Glad you come here for all of the latest news and information about your school.
"goEMAW.com: Fair, balanced, accurate, to the point." That's what I always say.
more great news just released.....
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/jun/25/ku-athletics-espn-announce-rights-agreement/
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ESPN3 plays sun belt games and every other game known to man, online! You still need a cable provider to access it too, so all of your poors will have no way of seeing it. :lol:
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I would worry about the job Scott Brooks is doing in OKC. Presti is going to need a fall guy and a popular hire to distract everybody from the fact he screwed up the Harden deal.
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ESPN3 plays sun belt games and every other game known to man, online! You still need a cable provider to access it too, so all of your poors will have no way of seeing it. :lol:
great day to be a jayhawk
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I would worry about the job Scott Brooks is doing in OKC. Presti is going to need a fall guy and a popular hire to distract everybody from the fact he screwed up the Harden deal.
what the eff are you talking about? dumbass.
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I would worry about the job Scott Brooks is doing in OKC. Presti is going to need a fall guy and a popular hire to distract everybody from the fact he screwed up the Harden deal.
what the eff are you talking about? dumbass.
Are you blind to the possibility that Houston could sign Howard and catch up/pass OKC in the West?
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Self won't die.
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Self won't die.
yes he will. he's not a robot, most of him is real.
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KU
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KU
if you would use tally marks it would help me keep track
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They will have a funeral when Bill Self dies. That's what will happen first.
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They will have a funeral when Bill Self dies. That's what will happen first.
Pretty likely. Safe prediction.
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Maybe we can help lil bro out, since we've already seen our basketball program die.
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They will have a funeral when Bill Self dies. That's what will happen first.
Will oscar Weber attend?
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They will have a funeral when Bill Self dies. That's what will happen first.
Will oscar Weber attend?
He may try to attend, but they won't let him in. I'm OK with that.
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@22wiggins
Back in Lawrence, Kansas and loving every minute of it #jayhawks
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@22wiggins
Back in Lawrence, Kansas and loving every minute of it #jayhawks
This has nothing to do with Bill Self's funeral...
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@22wiggins
Back in Lawrence, Kansas and loving every minute of it #jayhawks
This has nothing to do with Bill Self's funeral...
Au contraire, Bill Self has died and gone to Heaven.
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They bring back Jeff Boschee.
No way Paul Pierce can put his blunt down long enough to recruit, coach, and do press conferences.
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Oh neat, a new racist.
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Oh neat, a new racist.
:dunno:
Its pretty well known he likes to toke.
Probably uses a bong though.
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Oh neat, a new racist.
:dunno:
Its pretty well known he likes to toke.
Probably uses a bong though.
No need to justify your racism to me. I'm sure you're just a product of your environment.
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@22wiggins
Back in Lawrence, Kansas and loving every minute of it #jayhawks
It's all part of his contract to tweet this stuff.
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Im not sure maybe you can ask Larry Brown and Roy Williams. The best get the best... no drop off at all... Now speaking of Bill , you might want to worry about whats going to happen to KSU when your own Bill dies!!!!!!!! welcome to 1990 , There will never be another and KSU will disappear just like the prior 70 years before HCBS.
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lets say that they happen to hit the powerball again, after self dies. but then that coach dies. what happens then?
you usually don't hit the powerball more than one time, maybe twice, max.
PISSPANTS you're a funny man . It must suck to drown in jealousy ... You might want to think about OLD BALLS falling out long before KU"s Bill dies.. KU just keeps pace , you on the other hand its over after hcbs leaves
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Im not sure maybe you can ask Larry Brown and Roy Williams. The best get the best... no drop off at all... Now speaking of Bill , you might want to worry about whats going to happen to KSU when your own Bill dies!!!!!!!! welcome to 1990 , There will never be another and KSU will disappear just like the prior 70 years before HCBS.
Interesting if true.
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PISSPANTS
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i wish i hadn't just got clownsuited
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It's hard to keep from getting clowned when you are drowned in jealousy. T's&P's
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If Bill Self had only won two conference titles in 20+ years at KU, he'd be fired by now. No comparison between Snyder/K-State football and Self/KU basketball. KU basketball is an elite program that has sustained a high level of success throughout the course of its history. K-State football is a historically shitty program with one really, really good coach. Also, Snyder is old as eff and Self isn't.
/thread
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They'll probably start a memorial fund with proceeds going to players.
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That was pretty adorable, beems.
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the reality is that bill self is going to die
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Clams is 100% right. Fast living always catches up to ppl.
Burning the professional and personal candles at both ends is usually a quick way to do it and Bill is burning both ends with a blowtorch.
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went over to Corinth Square to pick up some dinner a couple weeks ago. not many parking spots as you might imagine- so i pull around the side of Hen House market and who do i come across? you guessed it, it's bill self right there railing what looked to be a solid 7 from behind right up against the dumpster.
i yelled out "get em coach" - dude didn't even flinch- total pro.
ran into him later that night snorting meth off of a stripper's ass in the basement of the plaza three. on stage. with the jazz band.
point is - the guy rides hard
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If his dumpster railing friend was only a 7, that means that this was a weekday, as Bill has told me many times that he doesn't leave the bar on a weekend night until he has any combo that adds up to at least 18.
let that sink in.
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Im not sure maybe you can ask Larry Brown and Roy Williams. The best get the best... no drop off at all... Now speaking of Bill , you might want to worry about whats going to happen to KSU when your own Bill dies!!!!!!!! welcome to 1990 , There will never be another and KSU will disappear just like the prior 70 years before HCBS.
=mods?= is this true? :frown: