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Title: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 09:26:27 AM: KANSAS ST.
TEXAS -9

KANSAS ST.
OKLAHOMA ST. -9

BAYLOR
KANSAS ST. -5

WEST VIRGINIA
KANSAS ST. -9

IOWA ST.
KANSAS ST. -13.5

TCU
KANSAS ST. -4.5

OKLAHOMA -4
KANSAS ST.

KANSAS ST. -21.5
KANSAS
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: 'taterblast on June 07, 2013, 09:31:04 AM: will take.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: 'taterblast on June 07, 2013, 09:31:36 AM: why no tech though? push at the moment?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 09:53:18 AM: Quote from: emawblast on June 07, 2013, 09:31:36 AM
why no tech though? push at the moment?

nope, just no line released by Golden Nugget for that game. kind of strange.

only three KU and TT games were lined, lowest of any Big 12 team.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 09:53:54 AM: bet the farm on ksu/wvu. holgerson is trash.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 10:02:12 AM: i feel like the OSU line should be bigger than the UT line.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 10:04:42 AM: Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 09:53:54 AM
bet the farm on ksu/wvu. holgerson is trash.

seriously though. the ksu/wvu game is in the middle of the season and is the sandwich game of three straight home games. kstate will beat wvu by no less than 30. mark it down. the daris double gold pick of the year.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:23:17 AM: eff yes will take
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 11:24:37 AM: I like our chances of covering the spread against UT. When is the last time we didn't do that?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 11:25:51 AM: Quote from: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:23:17 AM
eff yes will take

for the conference's sake i hope 6-3 does not win a share of the title.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 11:26:55 AM: Quote from: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 11:25:51 AM
Quote from: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:23:17 AM
eff yes will take

for the conference's sake i hope 6-3 does not win a share of the title.

As long as it is Kansas State holding up the trophy, I wouldn't care if 5-4 wins the title.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM: wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Pete on June 07, 2013, 11:28:51 AM: Favored in 5 of the listed games....that's our 8 win season (assuming we sweep the non-con), with Tech being the difference between 9 and 8 wins.

:cheese:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 11:37:03 AM: Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM
wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

Also, new qb.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Pete on June 07, 2013, 11:41:06 AM: You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season. :gocho:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 11:44:50 AM: Quote from: Pete on June 07, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season. :gocho:

Is Bell going to be OU's guy, or is it going to be that new frosh? If Bell, not worried. If frosh is as good as it sounds like he is supposed to be, :ohno:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: jtksu on June 07, 2013, 11:45:48 AM: Quote from: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
i feel like the OSU line should be bigger than the UT line.

We're gonna kill UT, again.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 12:10:42 PM: Quote from: CNS on June 07, 2013, 11:37:03 AM
Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM
wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

Also, new qb.

the qb could be peyton manning and it wouldn't matter. we will outscheme them by 5,000 and run the ball over their backs all day/night. we are not a good matchup for them.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2013, 12:27:44 PM: Quote from: Pete on June 07, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season. :gocho:

Every analyst is all "K-State struggled early but the way this team has come together, NO ONE wants to play them right now."
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 12:30:15 PM: i think kstate actually typically peaks around the middle of the season and then kind of wears down at the end of the season due to how ridic hard they practice but who knows. maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Spaces on June 07, 2013, 12:38:30 PM: That UT line is just dumb and lazy work.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 12:41:45 PM: This is approximate, and not perfect, but according to Golden Nugget in Vegas, the Big 12 pecking order goes something like this:

1. Texas
2. Oklahoma -0.5 points
3. Oklahoma State -1
4. Kansas State -6
5. TCU -6.5
6. Baylor -9
7. Texas Tech -11
8. West Virginia -12.5
9. Iowa State -16.5
10. Kansas -28

So, in simple terms, Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are virtually the same team. Texas and Oklahoma are maybe considered slightly better than Oklahoma State. Texas is about 6 points better than K-State; 9 points better than Baylor; 16.5 points better than Iowa State; and 28 points better than Kansas.

You can figure out the difference between each team by doing the math. (i.e., K-State is a half-point better than TCU; 3 points better than Baylor; 5 points better than Texas Tech).
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 12:44:44 PM: Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 12:56:42 PM: Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 12:44:44 PM
Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game

Many of these lines are jokes. It goes without saying that the lines will change by the time the season rolls around, and certainly from week to week when games are actually played. But K-State, as usual, got the short end of the stick against the Big 12's "elite."

Texas and Oklahoma are not a touchdown better.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 12:59:51 PM: Quote from: j rake on June 07, 2013, 12:56:42 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 12:44:44 PM
Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game

Many of these lines are jokes. It goes without saying that the lines will change by the time the season rolls around, and certainly from week to week when games are actually played. But K-State, as usual, got the short end of the stick against the Big 12's "elite."

Texas and Oklahoma are not a touchdown better.

Yep, I'm sure the limits on these are pretty low
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 07, 2013, 01:14:51 PM: jrake,

what's your "take" on my "take"?
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2013, 01:22:53 PM: ALERT!!! ALERT!!! WC08'S LINES JUST CAME OUT!!! (100% guarantee approval rate)

Quote from: Wackycat08 on June 07, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
KANSAS ST. -69
TEXAS <--------------------Losery rough ridin' pud dork stores

KANSAS ST. -37
OKLAHOMA ST.    <------ Limp dick Boone Pickens can't buy this one

BAYLOR      <------ Not enough church's or prayers will save the Bears on this one.
KANSAS ST. - 89

WEST VIRGINIA      <------- :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
KANSAS ST. -666

IOWA ST.      <-------- This will be a Pillage and we'll steal all their Suzy's
KANSAS ST. -311

TCU         <------- Snyder will make the drop off at midnight before. They're mumped once Pachall sniffs it out
KANSAS ST. -28

OKLAHOMA       <------- Big 12 Championship game here.
KANSAS ST.-10

KANSAS ST. -1000000000
KANSAS <------- This line should go up by the end of the season.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 01:27:51 PM: Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: CNS on June 07, 2013, 11:37:03 AM
Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM
wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

Also, new qb.

the qb could be peyton manning and it wouldn't matter. we will outscheme them by 5,000 and run the ball over their backs all day/night. we are not a good matchup for them.

Agreed, they are a steaming pile but what I am saying is that they aren't going to be putting up the same scores given that what they had is most likely better than what they will have this season.
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Post by: scottwildcat on June 07, 2013, 01:38:42 PM: I wonder how high the KU line will be by kick off.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 01:40:28 PM: Quote from: scottwildcat on June 07, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
I wonder how high the KU line will be by kick off.

I bet it'll be lower than 21.5

Closer to 14 imo
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: scottwildcat on June 07, 2013, 01:41:39 PM: Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on June 07, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
I wonder how high the KU line will be by kick off.

I bet it'll be lower than 21.5

Closer to 14 imo

nope, we will be 11 and 0 with avg score of 48-3 so probably not.

jk not a chance it is above 20
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2013, 01:58:56 PM: +9 at UT seems a bit high, other than that pretty good imo
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 02:24:05 PM: Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: rick daris on June 07, 2013, 09:53:54 AM
bet the farm on ksu/wvu. holgerson is trash.

seriously though. the ksu/wvu game is in the middle of the season and is the sandwich game of three straight home games. kstate will beat wvu by no less than 30. mark it down. the daris double gold pick of the year.

I agree with you. K-State should roll past West Virginia and will probably kick the tar out of every team it plays at home, and that includes Oklahoma, which shouldn't be favored. I'm pretty high on K-State's offense this year despite the QB change. I also think the non-con schedule is very favorable, and lines up similarly to what Oklahoma State had last year with a new QB.

The defense is an atrocity. I think it's going to be pretty rough and will again need to rely on being opportunistic, clamping down in the red zone, forcing turnovers, etc. By season's end, the D might make some strides - but I think K-State will have to outscore teams to win in September and October.

The swing game is Texas on Sept. 21. A win would put K-State at 4-0 with an extra week to prepare for Oklahoma State. I give the Cats a great chance to steal that game, improve to 5-0, and then you've got B2B2B home games.

I'm expecting K-State's season win total to be 7 or 7.5 and will cut in line to bet it over.

How's that for optimism?

:ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
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Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 02:25:39 PM: GO RAKE GO!
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 02:26:05 PM: Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Yep, I'm sure the limits on these are pretty low

Compared to the limits you'll find on game day, or the week leading up to a game, yes. But for a sportsbook to release 250 point spreads three months before the season, I'd say $1,000 limits are pretty damn respectable.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 02:30:04 PM: Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 07, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on June 07, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
I wonder how high the KU line will be by kick off.

I bet it'll be lower than 21.5

Closer to 14 imo

LHC Bill Snyder's ATS record vs. Kansas is 17-4, and K-State has covered the spread (almost exclusively as favorites) by an average of 19 points per game. Margin of victory the last three years is 164-44, an average score of 55-14.

I'll take K-State -17 today if you'll give it to me.

LET'S GO CATS!

:ksu:
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Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 02:32:49 PM: LET'S GO CATS OMG!
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2013, 02:38:53 PM: Rake is raking me in.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 02:40:45 PM: Rake, next time we're sitting in Vegas at the blackjack table with our KSU Football Replica Jerseys (me #4 you #7) remind me to do the lynch mob sign more often to everyone.
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Post by: yoman on June 07, 2013, 02:56:52 PM: Rake being optimistic tells me we really should be good next year :billdance:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: j rake on June 07, 2013, 03:17:44 PM: Quote from: yoman on June 07, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
Rake being optimistic tells me we really should be good next year

my reputation as hater of all things k-state is earned, i guess, but i was actually extremely high on them last year.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: yoman on June 07, 2013, 03:53:17 PM: Quote from: j rake on June 07, 2013, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: yoman on June 07, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
Rake being optimistic tells me we really should be good next year

my reputation as hater of all things k-state is earned, i guess, but i was actually extremely high on them last year.
And we were conference champions with only 2 losses. :billdance:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Demo158 on June 07, 2013, 05:54:33 PM: Quote from: Wackycat08 on June 07, 2013, 01:22:53 PM
ALERT!!! ALERT!!! WC08'S LINES JUST CAME OUT!!! (100% guarantee approval rate)

Quote from: Wackycat08 on June 07, 2013, 09:26:27 AM


TCU         <------- Snyder will make the drop off at midnight before. They're mumped once Pachall sniffs it out
KANSAS ST. -28

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: DQ12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM: bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM: Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: DQ12 on June 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 08, 2013, 06:19:06 PM: Quote from: Dlew12 on June 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.

by their standards? i think so
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: scottwildcat on June 08, 2013, 08:17:25 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.

by their standards? i think so

what are their standards for dogshit?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 08, 2013, 08:19:35 PM: Quote from: scottwildcat on June 08, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.

by their standards? i think so

what are their standards for dogshit?
8-4, where they will be
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: scottwildcat on June 08, 2013, 08:25:05 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: scottwildcat on June 08, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 08, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.

by their standards? i think so

what are their standards for dogshit?
8-4, where they will be

man OU is elite if 8-4 is dogshit for them.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Katpappy on June 08, 2013, 09:02:29 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
Is that what OU fans call him, or is that what opposing team fans call him? :fatty:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 08, 2013, 11:42:32 PM: Our offense may seem easy to replicate, but I think it is way outside of Stoops' wheelhouse. I'm much less worried about OU next year if they go with trying to turn Bell into Klein.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM: Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: DQ12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2013, 04:04:58 PM: Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?
A delightful son of a bitch.
Title: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: SuperG on June 09, 2013, 04:24:01 PM: Quote from: scottwildcat on June 08, 2013, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 08, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
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Quote from: Dlew12 on June 07, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
bold predicto j rake, re. OU.

them hinting at instituting our offense last year with Bell has me thinking they could be a very salty team.

Ou is gonna be dogshit bob should have gotten out when he could
OU will never be "dogshit" while Bob is there.

by their standards? i think so

what are their standards for dogshit?
8-4, where they will be

man OU is elite if 8-4 is dogshit for them.

I don't think anybody has ever indicated that OU isn't elite.

TapiPhone
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 09, 2013, 04:28:01 PM: Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?

Collin could throw a lot better than people give him credit for, not 100% sure why you arguing this with your hfbiq. It's a down year for ou plain and simple
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: DQ12 on June 09, 2013, 11:28:41 PM: Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?

Collin could throw a lot better than people give him credit for, not 100% sure why you arguing this with your hfbiq. It's a down year for ou plain and simple
I'm arguing this because I think so highly of last year's offense strategy. OU has the athletes, and the "fullback-ish" quarterback to make it work. It might be a down year for OU, but i don't really see how anyone could write them off of being in the mix for the DP.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: jtksu on June 10, 2013, 02:34:17 AM: Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?

Collin could throw a lot better than people give him credit for, not 100% sure why you arguing this with your hfbiq. It's a down year for ou plain and simple
I'm arguing this because I think so highly of last year's offense strategy. OU has the athletes, and the "fullback-ish" quarterback to make it work. It might be a down year for OU, but i don't really see how anyone could write them off of being in the mix for the DP.

CK was a Heisman finalist and a total stud his junior year as well. Running an offense Snyder pretty much invented. You really think Bell has shown enough during his goal line PT to be CK next year, with Stoops completely changing his offense? None of that makes any sense to me. I'm more worried about one of OUs incoming QBs than I am about Stoops changing everything and turning the O over to Bell.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: kslim on June 10, 2013, 09:37:27 AM: Quote from: jtksu on June 10, 2013, 02:34:17 AM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: Dlew12 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: kslimlb3 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:18 AM
Do people really think ou is gonna be good this year? Sam Bradford isn't coming out of that tunnel. Their qb is a fullback
So, what, exactly, was Klein?

Collin could throw a lot better than people give him credit for, not 100% sure why you arguing this with your hfbiq. It's a down year for ou plain and simple
I'm arguing this because I think so highly of last year's offense strategy. OU has the athletes, and the "fullback-ish" quarterback to make it work. It might be a down year for OU, but i don't really see how anyone could write them off of being in the mix for the DP.

CK was a Heisman finalist and a total stud his junior year as well. Running an offense Snyder pretty much invented. You really think Bell has shown enough during his goal line PT to be CK next year, with Stoops completely changing his offense? None of that makes any sense to me. I'm more worried about one of OUs incoming QBs than I am about Stoops changing everything and turning the O over to Bell.

pretty much this
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: DQ12 on June 10, 2013, 05:23:05 PM: Well I guess we've reached the point in the discussion we're we'll just have to wait to find out. If OU turns out to be dogshit this year, I'll happily eat my words because I think they'll be right in the mix for Stoops's 9th DP.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Cannoncat on June 22, 2013, 01:22:23 AM: Quote from: jtksu on June 07, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
i feel like the OSU line should be bigger than the UT line.

We're gonna kill UT, again.

:thumbs: :bill:
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 22, 2013, 01:39:37 AM: okie state and tcu are your most likely conf champs. ut and ou will both be down this year. people will say the conf is down because of it.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Spaces on June 22, 2013, 03:40:24 PM: Quote from: GoodForAnother on June 22, 2013, 01:39:37 AM
okie state and tcu are your most likely conf champs. ut and ou will both be down this year. people will say the conf is down because of it.
what if we win it?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: WildcatPower on June 22, 2013, 09:19:49 PM: Quote from: Spaces on June 22, 2013, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: GoodForAnother on June 22, 2013, 01:39:37 AM
okie state and tcu are your most likely conf champs. ut and ou will both be down this year. people will say the conf is down because of it.
what if we win it?

I would not be one bit surprised by it. Never doubt a 73 year old Scheme Doctor :bill: and his bag of tricks.

Hell, I remember him taking over RP's players in his first year back, and he rough ridin' nearly won the Big XII North, where everybody thought K-State was predicted anywhere from 3-9 to 4-8, last in the North. And then in 2010 where (I think if some, not all of RP's big JUCO year players finally graduated, and he still managed to pull in a 7-6 overall record, and the Pinstripe Bowl, where we got rough ridin' jobbed by one of the worst officiating games I ever seen.

Since then, boom, *claps hands* took off like a rough ridin' laser.

So, some people doubt K-State? I'll say this. Underestimate Scheme Doctor :bill: at your very own risk.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 22, 2013, 11:22:41 PM: If we set the O/U at 8, who takes the under and who takes the over?
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2013, 11:47:54 PM: Quote from: Stevesie60 on June 22, 2013, 11:22:41 PM
If we set the O/U at 8, who takes the under and who takes the over?

tough. make a thread.
Title: Re: +9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5
Post by: Spaces on June 23, 2013, 07:14:39 AM: Quote from: WildcatPower on June 22, 2013, 09:19:49 PM
Since then, boom, *claps hands* took off like a rough ridin' laser.
:excited: