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Title: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 12:58:22 AM
So these guys deserve a huge rough ridin' raise.  Are we all in agreement here?  I'd at least double their salaries.  They were paid dick up to here.  Won't cost us anything in the grand scheme of things and I would hate to lose any of them (even undy who I am a convert of).  So, Currie, lets get this crap done....ok!?
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: goldenticket on March 26, 2010, 01:01:33 AM
agreed
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 01:06:25 AM
What's the point of "re-evaluate at the end of the season"?  :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 01:31:10 AM
Is Currie thinking he's going to get out cheap on these? 
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2010, 01:46:59 AM
in fairness... i don't know that i think that they should be doubled. they should however get much, more than they are currently getting. only a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) would argue that. if one of them is making 120,000... then give them 200,000 or something. hard/impossible to argue w/ that imo.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 01:51:07 AM
I would like to see what they are getting paid compared to the rest of the big 12 assistants.  I bet it's nothing.  Like, almost insulting.  Just a guess here. 
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: SleepFighter on March 26, 2010, 02:22:53 AM
Yes.  Pay them lots of money.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 02:23:20 AM
Yes.  Pay them lots of money.

I agree with this guy!^ (the one I quoted)
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2010, 08:07:01 AM
Currie, you thought you were done with us.

YOUR MISTAKE!
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: doom on March 26, 2010, 08:22:56 AM
Currie, you thought you were done with us.

YOUR MISTAKE!

Fire Currie!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: bubbles4ksu on March 26, 2010, 09:02:53 AM
Currie, you thought you were done with us.

YOUR MISTAKE!

Fire Currie!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!

Gonna take everyone chanting this at the pep rally for the message to get across. We can't have this season be a fluke because we let Undy get away. Pay them.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2010, 09:22:18 AM
PAY OUR UNDY!  (CLAP-CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP)
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY
Post by: LickNeckey on March 26, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
After Dalonte leaves that opens up piles of money

(that hullabaloo is going to happen)
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 10:15:29 AM
Hey, shirt-tucks, guess who's back  :curse:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2010, 11:30:23 AM
Hey, shirt-tucks, guess who's back  :curse:

VERY concerned about a Tennessee shirt tuck brigade that came here with Currie, few speak of them and several have taken steps to improve their non-regional diction, but they smell like suck and they are very real.  Beware EMAW, BE AWARE!
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
I sure hope Currie knows that PAY FRANK was catchy and fit well on a t-shirt, but it encompassed all of the staff.  17 is everywhere.   :comehere:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: bradleigh on March 26, 2010, 01:24:34 PM
I really think Frank and Currie have talked about this in the contract negotiations, but raises are given after the season's over.  You don't think Frank negotiated for his boys?
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 01:29:27 PM
I really think Frank and Currie have talked about this in the contract negotiations, but raises are given after the season's over.  You don't think Frank negotiated for his boys?

Yeah, he did.  But, grumblings.....
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2010, 01:30:18 PM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 01:31:02 PM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.

I used to be.  Now I'm an undy man. 
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2010, 10:29:03 AM
 :users:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2010, 10:52:27 AM
I'd say give them nice bonus without raising overall salary.  Tell them there is a HUGE bonus waiting for them next year of they cut down some nets.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
They'll get raises, but doubling their pay . . . come on. 

Like I said yesterday, it's time to sit Te420K down and show him the Alec Baldwin "steak knives" speech from Glengary Glenross . . . and then tell him that if he doesn't pick it up the horse head in his bed will be real and messy.

Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2010, 11:06:40 AM
Plus  LOL at all the Currie Tinfoil hate people.

Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2010, 11:26:50 AM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.

I think it's time for this mantra to die, seems Frank trusts Underwood a great deal.  Huggs/Frank=Frank/Underwood.  Certainly he is more valuable than Delonte right now.  Te's gotta do a hell of a lot more than snag the occasional DC Assault recruit.  You could make the argument that the rest of the staff could now make the same inroads since the pipeline is now in place.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2010, 11:29:38 AM
yeah, i think it's pretty obvious that underwood has a role on the staff. hutchinson catbackers bbq fundraiser? send undy. old white donor who likes bball? let them meet and talk to undy. etc.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 11:29:53 AM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.

I think it's time for this mantra to die, seems Frank trusts Underwood a great deal.  Huggs/Frank=Frank/Underwood.  Certainly he is more valuable than Delonte right now.  Te's gotta do a hell of a lot more than snag the occasional DC Assault recruit.  You could make the argument that the rest of the staff could now make the same inroads since the pipeline is now in place.

I know Frank trusts Underwood, but he trusts Merriewether, too.  Doesn't mean I have to like it.  (either one)
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Bill Clarahan on March 28, 2010, 11:52:38 AM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.

I think it's time for this mantra to die, seems Frank trusts Underwood a great deal.  Huggs/Frank=Frank/Underwood.  Certainly he is more valuable than Delonte right now.  Te's gotta do a hell of a lot more than snag the occasional DC Assault recruit.  You could make the argument that the rest of the staff could now make the same inroads since the pipeline is now in place.

I know Frank trusts Underwood, but he trusts Merriewether, too.  Doesn't mean I have to like it.  (either one)



Please make a short list of things you do like, don't include sex, on second thought include sex because that may be the only thing.

Just curious :grin:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 12:59:26 PM
I'm fine with not paying Underwood.

I think it's time for this mantra to die, seems Frank trusts Underwood a great deal.  Huggs/Frank=Frank/Underwood.  Certainly he is more valuable than Delonte right now.  Te's gotta do a hell of a lot more than snag the occasional DC Assault recruit.  You could make the argument that the rest of the staff could now make the same inroads since the pipeline is now in place.

I know Frank trusts Underwood, but he trusts Merriewether, too.  Doesn't mean I have to like it.  (either one)



Please make a short list of things you do like, don't include sex, on second thought include sex because that may be the only thing.

Just curious :grin:

I f*cking love everything about this team, except trusting Underwood and Merriewether.  (Note:  I even love how much Colon plays)

So, f*ck off.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 01:11:19 PM
I like Undies a lot since I saw him call out CK for chest beating.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
I like Undies a lot since I saw him call out CK for chest beating.

Ha!  That's one of the reasons I hate him.  :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 02:37:49 PM
I like Undies a lot since I saw him call out CK for chest beating.

Ha!  That's one of the reasons I hate him.  :dunno:

CK is my favorite player because of all of his antics.  But undies was definitely doing his job.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2010, 07:36:17 AM
Currie Tinfoil hate people.

 :love:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: ClayKat on March 29, 2010, 11:28:27 AM
yeah, i think it's pretty obvious that underwood has a role on the staff. hutchinson catbackers bbq fundraiser? send undy. old white donor who likes bball? let them meet and talk to undy. etc.
Dalonte = Gone; Undy=Associate HC; Figgs=AHCIW - and there are your raises after Te's astronomical salary gets distributed.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2010, 12:04:06 PM
yeah, i think it's pretty obvious that underwood has a role on the staff. hutchinson catbackers bbq fundraiser? send undy. old white donor who likes bball? let them meet and talk to undy. etc.
Dalonte = Gone; Undy=Associate HC; Figgs=AHCIW - and there are your raises after Te's astronomical salary gets distributed.

You also have to make salary room for our new amazing recruiting AAU hero coach though (Bozeman and Cook, come on down!) :love:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2010, 12:04:59 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: ClayKat on March 29, 2010, 04:36:42 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)
Isn't Charlotte still looking?  I couldn't see what Lutz was getting paid (fracking private schools) except that he was getting 4 years of base salary and a $948,000 buyout.  The university prez said she was looking for a young coach who could recruit to Charlotte and that it has outstanding facilities. 

Is coaching under Frank's shadow at $425K/year a better stepping stone than being HC at Charlotte at a hypothetical $400K plus incentives and potentially turning them around?  :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 29, 2010, 04:47:00 PM
Looking at Rivals, I see the following list of kids that "have interest":

'10
Terrence Durham, 3* G

'11
Ben McLemore, 4* G
Thomas Gipson, 3* F
Ryan Boatright, 4* G
Angel Rodriguez, 3* G
Quinn Cook, 5* G
Nino Williams, 3* G

'12
Isaiah Austin, 5* C

What would it take for us to say Hill is earning his salary?  A couple more 3*s?  A 4 or 5?  Am trying to decide for myself what he can do to convince me he isn't a complete waste of space.  :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2010, 04:57:49 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)
Isn't Charlotte still looking?  I couldn't see what Lutz was getting paid (fracking private schools) except that he was getting 4 years of base salary and a $948,000 buyout.  The university prez said she was looking for a young coach who could recruit to Charlotte and that it has outstanding facilities.  

Is coaching under Frank's shadow at $425K/year a better stepping stone than being HC at Charlotte at a hypothetical $400K plus incentives and potentially turning them around?  :dunno:

Goodman said the rumblings are Charlotte isn't interested
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2010, 05:31:04 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)

But if he could get $300k at say, Marshall, it would probably be a good move for him.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2010, 06:06:55 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)

But if he could get $300k at say, Marshall, it would probably be a good move for him.

Yeah, prolly
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2010, 08:09:04 PM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 29, 2010, 08:12:12 PM
But seriously, where is Dalonte going?  Nobody is going to hire him as a HC (at least nobody that will pay him what we pay him)

But if he could get $300k at say, Marshall, it would probably be a good move for him.

Yeah, prolly

yeah, mean... if he got super luck he might be able to parlay into a head gig at a small jesuit school in a super crappy midwestern town where everybody tucks shirts into jeans and looks exactly the same. marshall...the place where dreams start.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2010, 08:21:56 PM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2010, 08:55:36 PM
Looking at Rivals, I see the following list of kids that "have interest":

'10
Terrence Durham, 3* G

'11
Ben McLemore, 4* G
Thomas Gipson, 3* F
Ryan Boatright, 4* G
Angel Rodriguez, 3* G
Quinn Cook, 5* G
Nino Williams, 3* G

'12
Isaiah Austin, 5* C

What would it take for us to say Hill is earning his salary?  A couple more 3*s?  A 4 or 5?  Am trying to decide for myself what he can do to convince me he isn't a complete waste of space.  :dunno:

eff 3 stars.  He isn't paid for 3 stars, do you know how many 3 stars there are nationally/internationally?  Wooly was able to find 3 stars, he better start bringing in more top 150 players.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: VGibsonLives on March 29, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
Put him on commission.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 07:22:22 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go eff himself :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: Cire on March 30, 2010, 07:29:30 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

forgot about that.  where did that story come from?
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 07:34:26 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

forgot about that.  where did that story come from?

Some members of the media that we Pak with from time to time  :users:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 30, 2010, 07:53:22 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go eff himself :dunno:

Thought that was Figgs :dunno: Both?? :excited:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 07:54:19 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 07:54:54 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:

Why do you not like him?
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 07:55:20 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go eff himself :dunno:

Thought that was Figgs :dunno: Both?? :excited:

It was undy
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 08:03:47 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:

Why do you not like him?

because he doesn't recruit.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 08:09:02 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:

Why do you not like him?

because he doesn't recruit.

this.  but basically after the '09 class, we should hate everyone on the staff.  I mean, what the hell has Figgs ever done?  Get us Awaji?  IMO, while 'Te needs to step it up, Figgs and Unds need to actually f'ing do something besides be white.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 08:21:42 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:

Why do you not like him?

because he doesn't recruit.

this.  but basically after the '09 class, we should hate everyone on the staff.  I mean, what the hell has Figgs ever done?  Get us Awaji?  IMO, while 'Te needs to step it up, Figgs and Unds need to actually f'ing do something besides be white.

Figger got us Russell and Mitchell, which is a hell of a lot more than Underwood has ever done.  I think Underwood actually gets deductions for Gilbert and Blake Young.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 08:34:06 AM
Didn't undy get Sprads (bid deal, I know) and Nino though :dunno:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 08:37:59 AM
Didn't undy get Sprads (bid deal, I know) and Nino though :dunno:

wow, props for going out and getting Kansas kids that KU doesn't want, Undy!  :ksu:

:blank:
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 08:39:23 AM
Hard not to like UnderHCIwood.

I find it very easy, actually.  I have no idea what he's done to earn this free pass of late.  Yell in practice on the K-State Confidential vids?  :jerk:

 And, :curse:

Told kellis to go shazbot! himself :dunno:

:jerk:

Why do you not like him?

because he doesn't recruit.

this.  but basically after the '09 class, we should hate everyone on the staff.  I mean, what the hell has Figgs ever done?  Get us Awaji?  IMO, while 'Te needs to step it up, Figgs and Unds need to actually f'ing do something besides be white.

Figger got us Russell and Mitchell, which is a hell of a lot more than Underwood has ever done.  I think Underwood actually gets deductions for Gilbert and Blake Young.

Russell hasn't shown anything at all.  Semantics, but I don't count Mitchell.  Who the hell got us Irving?  Was that Frank?  Either way, non-'Te kids are garbage.  Sure, 'Te needs to get some '11's and '12's, but he's done more for KSU than anyone on staff.  And LOL at Nino and Sprads.  Both are average, at best, big 12 players.  Spri is the only one that appears to be an average to above average big 12 player, so thank you art alvarez and frank.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 08:43:27 AM
Russell hasn't shown anything at all.  Semantics, but I don't count Mitchell. 

Russell showing nothing at all is still >>>>>>>>> than anything any Underwood has brought in.   Not saying Figger is some kind of oppenheimer or something, but he's a hell of a lot better than Underwood.
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 08:46:48 AM
Russell hasn't shown anything at all.  Semantics, but I don't count Mitchell. 

Russell showing nothing at all is still >>>>>>>>> than anything any Underwood has brought in.   Not saying Figger is some kind of oppenheimer or something, but he's a hell of a lot better than Underwood.

This is reminds me of when fats and I got into an argument about who was the "better" qb, dylan or AE.  We finally ended it by deciding that if we were trying to figure out who was the least sh*tty it really didn't matter who was "better".
Title: Re: PAY ASSALEY, UNDY, GREENY, FIGGSY
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2010, 10:38:54 AM
Are we paying these guys yet?