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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
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Love #life! But this is real LIFE! He's the real deal. Cats, man!
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I didn't see The Real Deal in any of the brackets, sorry.
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first drive Waters looked good. In the second drive he looked like complete crap.
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Yeah, him creating plays and him throwing a TD pass was sooooo garbage.
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Yeah, him creating plays and him throwing a TD pass was sooooo garbage.
He doesn't look as good as Coffman.
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Yeah, him creating plays and him throwing a TD pass was sooooo garbage.
He doesn't look as good as Coffman.
:dubious:
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Whoever scores first with the white team wins the QB competition
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Lol at anyone who thinks waters is the guy
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I don't know who is going to win the Sams vs Waters QB competition, but I have a pretty good feeling who wins the Wackycat vs Pete FBIQ Competition.
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Lol at anyone who thinks waters is the guy
Totally agree with KC. If I had to bet my life (no pun intended) on who would win us more games, I'd go with Sams with no hesitation at all.
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Waters has looked good in the second half now.
It's just so different between he and Life. Difficult to compare.
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So after weeks of struggling to come up with a nickname, we finally for one right? Jake "the real deal" waters.
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:sdeek:
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Maybe just "the dealer"? Like with him dealing at a bjack table but instead of dealing cards to drunken townies, he's dealing crisp passes to the receiving corps. :dunno:
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Nice little 47 yard crossing pass to Thompson, by Sams. Looked pretty slick.
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Nice little 47 yard crossing pass to Thompson, by Sams. Looked pretty slick.
He's on roids, dork.
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So many racist in our fan base, sad really.
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Its nice having two stud QBs.
#TeamLife
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So after weeks of struggling to come up with a nickname, we finally for one right? Jake "the real deal" waters.
"The 2nd Amendment" was really picking up steam last time I checked.
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chum and I discussed this over some turntable last night and spiraldeliverysystem.com is the winner
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chum and I discussed this over some turntable last night and "spiral delivery system.com" is the winner
fixed your post, SD
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[email protected]
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The Samsonite/Jakanese divide is sad.
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Samsonite :love:
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Jake "calm the" Waters?
Not sorry if Luked because I'm not going back through that thread where everyone suggested ideas.
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:popcorn:
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Wackycat looks like a complete dumbass with his analysis, what else is new
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Wackycat looks like a complete dumbass with his analysis, what else is new
yeah
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The quality of analysis around here has really plummeted since ksu_Fanning left.
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Best qb since ell
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Waters will be a serviceable backup.
Yes, he'll be a really good backup, and i'm excited about that.
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Waters will be a serviceable backup.
Yes, he'll be a really good backup, and i'm excited about that.
lol. How cute.
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Waters will be a serviceable backup.
Yes, he'll be a really good backup, and i'm excited about that.
lol. How cute.
he is going to be the backup, wackycat08.
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
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Waters is the Nick Florence to Sams' RG3.
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DNR, but Fanning, you're trolling, right? PM if necessary. :users:
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Team #Sampsonite. Give me the good life.
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DNR, but Fanning, you're trolling, right? PM if necessary. :users:
:peek:
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Both guys looked really good at times. Was on team Waters, still :love: him but I was extremely impressed with #Life's passing. This offense is going to score so many points you guys. Also nice meeting some of you at the stadium. :cheers:
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Both guys looked really good at times. Was on team Waters, still :love: him but I was extremely impressed with #Life's passing. This offense is going to score so many points you guys. Also nice meeting some of you at the stadium. :cheers:
dumbass outed
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
Little Baby _______ Lockett
Shouldn't it be "Little Baby Tiny Lockett" or whatever? (LBTL)
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
Little Baby _______ Lockett
Shouldn't it be "Little Baby Tiny Lockett" or whatever? (LBTL)
TLBL!
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
Little Baby _______ Lockett
Shouldn't it be "Little Baby Tiny Lockett" or whatever? (LBTL)
TLBL!
Got it :)
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Both guys looked really good at times. Was on team Waters, still :love: him but I was extremely impressed with #Life's passing. This offense is going to score so many points you guys. Also nice meeting some of you at the stadium. :cheers:
dumbass outed
You mad bro?
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Both guys looked really good at times. Was on team Waters, still :love: him but I was extremely impressed with #Life's passing. This offense is going to score so many points you guys. Also nice meeting some of you at the stadium. :cheers:
:cheers:
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Both guys looked really good at times. Was on team Waters, still :love: him but I was extremely impressed with #Life's passing. This offense is going to score so many points you guys. Also nice meeting some of you at the stadium. :cheers:
dumbass outed
You mad bro?
:driving:
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
Little Baby _______ Lockett
Shouldn't it be "Little Baby Tiny Lockett" or whatever? (LBTL)
TLBL!
Little Bitty Baby Lockett
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Did anyone see that heavenly pass in the 4th Qtr from #Life to LBBL in the Splash Zone. I was listening to Country on my head set to maximize my enjoyment of the game. Anyway at the same time the magical pass happened and the words of the song "Cowboys and Angels" changed in my mind to "Passers and Receivers". God, what a great time watching a typically boring OB Spring game. :love:
Who the eff is LBBL?
Little Baby _______ Lockett
Shouldn't it be "Little Baby Tiny Lockett" or whatever? (LBTL)
TLBL!
Little Bitty Baby Lockett
We already have an acronym for that. It seems pointless to create your own because you want to be unique. I suppose you did garner yourself some attention so good for you :thumbsup:
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
Your friend is a dumbass. Sorry.
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
Your friend is a dumbass. Sorry.
Yeah, I didn't see the game, so I can't comment on most of what you said, but the last sentence kind of leads me to believe 33 is correct here.
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
Your friend is a dumbass. Sorry.
What's that former Pitt State grad doing these days? Just askin'.
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
Your friend is a dumbass. Sorry.
What's that former Pitt State grad doing these days? Just askin'.
asst. manager for the NAIA in kcmo.
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love #life but he was horrible in his progressions/reads and underthrew almost every receiver including Toe, seemed way too anxious to make something out of nothing aka: ill advised passes. Waters hitting them in stride on the 2nd and 3rd read was impressive but that's a product of a being an elite passer and not an understanding of the offense as both QB's weren't done with their first full progressions at the bottom of their drop. Which will get them sacked or throwing dumb passes in a real game. This usually means they don't know the offense well enough to see how the coverage is biting on the routes early on in the play. Collin was exceptionally good at this fwiw.
~According to former Pitt state grad assistant friend.
Your friend is a dumbass. Sorry.
What's that former Pitt State grad doing these days? Just askin'.
asst. manager for the NAIA in kcmo.
:eek:
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Well, I think KU has a better quarterback than both of ours. Not saying they will beat us, but their quarterback is better. Could be Todd Reesing Jr. for that program.
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Well, I think KU has a better quarterback than both of ours. Not saying they will beat us, but their quarterback is better. Could be Todd Reesing Jr. for that program.
Maybe. Athletically Heaps is inferior to Waters or #Life
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Well, I think KU has a better quarterback than both of ours. Not saying they will beat us, but their quarterback is better. Could be Todd Reesing Jr. for that program.
Maybe. Athletically Heaps is inferior to Waters or #Life
Out of the system Weis wants to run, it won't matter.
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Haha. Both our qb's would smash Heaps face in when it comes to performance on the field.
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Haha. Both our qb's would smash Heaps face in when it comes to performance on the field.
I just think he is legit. I would be elated to have a passer with past stats like that on our team. He actually had success at another D1 school. My guess is he can play, but in all honesty I hope he is just another Dayne Crist.
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CAREER STATS
SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2011 144 252 1452 57.1 5.76 37 9 8 4 111.0
2010 219 383 2316 57.2 6.05 62 15 9 18 116.2
Those numbers are vs a shitty schedule and similar to Crist coming in. Oh, and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUK1wEHx4EY
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Guys, enough time has gone by that I have been able to gather a good and diverse sample of white Midwesterners input since spring game and its official. Waters is the white Midwesterners pick and he vastly out played sams.
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CAREER STATS
SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2011 144 252 1452 57.1 5.76 37 9 8 4 111.0
2010 219 383 2316 57.2 6.05 62 15 9 18 116.2
Those numbers are vs a shitty schedule and similar to Crist coming in. Oh, and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUK1wEHx4EY
GROW SOME BALLS JAKE HEAPS!!!!!
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VASTLY!
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
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Just found out that Jake's aunt taught me high school English.
She was tough but fair. Gave me lasting life experience as well, that was more valuable than any of the academic information i learned..
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Just found out that Jake's aunt taught me high school English.
She was tough but fair. Gave me lasting life experience as well, that was more valuable than any of the academic information i learned..
:horrorsurprise:
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Just found out that Jake's aunt taught me high school English.
She was tough but fair. Gave me lasting life experience as well, that was more valuable than any of the academic information i learned..
Took your V-card?
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
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I don't know if you've been paying attention to Trim and Gooch on Twitter, but they're calling me #Klanning since I started this thread. I'm already regretting getting super PAK'd during the spring game. :curse:
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Review the spring game and watch Sams blatantly throw into double coverage like 55% of the time.
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
i don't think it's funny at all, KC.
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if we had a more dominant runningback it would be Waters job IMO
we don't sooooo team #Life
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
i don't think it's funny at all, KC.
I am pretty confident in my being a non-racist but whatever. I wasn't offering an opinion between the two qbs besides saying they both had their moments..just trying to pass along commentary.
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if we had a more dominant runningback it would be Waters job IMO
we don't sooooo team #Life
You're racist against Hubert.
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
i don't think it's funny at all, KC.
I am pretty confident in my being a non-racist but whatever. I wasn't offering an opinion between the two qbs besides saying they both had their moments..just trying to pass along commentary.
Don't shy away from KC acting like an idiot resorting to pulling the race card because you know, being black is huge disadvantage in athletics and sports today :rolleyes:.
I mean the NBA and NFL are just pillars of racism against minorities!
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
i don't think it's funny at all, KC.
I am pretty confident in my being a non-racist but whatever. I wasn't offering an opinion between the two qbs besides saying they both had their moments..just trying to pass along commentary.
Don't shy away from KC acting like an idiot resorting to pulling the race card because you know, being black is huge disadvantage in athletics and sports today :rolleyes:.
I mean the NBA and NFL are just pillars of racism against minorities!
what the eff are you talking about? what does the fact that alot of pro-athletes are black have to do with our fanbase being racist?
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VASTLY!
That is exactly how the last white Midwesterner I spoke with emphasized it.
Do we know each other irl?
Well, the tucks are wrong. Half the time Sams wouldn't have even been tackled when he was whistled down. He would of easily ran for more yardage. I didn't see that as much out of Waters. Sams > Waters at getting out of bad situations.
that statement can also go the other way...there were a few times Sams would've gone down for a loss or no gain but because of the two hand touch he was allowed to run for like 15 yards. Both guys had there moments. A friend of mine whose brother in law plays quite a bit said he thinks it'll be Waters because Sams is less accurate and makes more bad decisions in practice.
It's funny how all the posters with a history of racist posting think waters is better than sams.
i don't think it's funny at all, KC.
I am pretty confident in my being a non-racist but whatever. I wasn't offering an opinion between the two qbs besides saying they both had their moments..just trying to pass along commentary.
Don't shy away from KC acting like an idiot resorting to pulling the race card because you know, being black is huge disadvantage in athletics and sports today :rolleyes:.
I mean the NBA and NFL are just pillars of racism against minorities!
what the eff are you talking about? what does the fact that alot of pro-athletes are black have to do with our fanbase being racist?
You really think people are choosing waters due to racism? Waters threw 14/18 (78%) and 3TD's. Sams threw 18/28 (64%) 3TD's and an INT. Waters scrambled for one less yard on about 1/3rd the attempts and called more running plays involving Robert Rose (110 of his 141 yards came with waters at QB)
To the people at the game you could call one of Sams's TD's lucky to not be an INT (and sports center agrees)
Would you rather have a surgeon that loses 22% of his patients or one that loses 36% of his and has been known to 'get lucky' during his bad decisions of the past? Hubert and the O line will keep the ground game going just fine, Having a more Elite passer will open up our options more than a slightly faster and shiftier secondary running threat which is exactly what we had last year and lead to our demise.
But you know, these stats are inconvenient so lets ignore them and Sams is black so that's obviously the problem.
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Waters will win the job because Hubert is a good back and will do his thing on the ground, and he is more than athletic enough to fit the system, he makes better decisions with the ball, and is the greater passer overall. I would be happy with either guy and I know everyone here is pro-#LIFE but let's be logical, Waters gives the offense more diversity and the athleticism needed to run a LHC Bill Snyder offense. He will also win us more games IMO. It's just a Spring game, but I'm basing it on film of Waters from IWCC(yes I know it's JUCO), I've seen Sams too and he makes more bad decisions with the ball. The only problem I'd seen with Waters was him underthrowing receivers at IWCC which he didn't do at the Spring game, so he's improved. I just think he's the better option, I mean anyone who throws 39 TDs and VERY few interceptions(3) is fine with me. I'd like to see the better guy win, I just believe it's Waters.
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Too bad we don't have a Mr. Football to bust up this log jam.
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sams wins because he has already been studying snyder's system for two years, he is a xxx speed athlete, and collin blessed him on camera
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Same will start, get banged up and be less effective prompting waters to take over and start until he loses it back to sams.
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Bills got a raging boner for SAMs and is only using waters as healthy competition and a safety net.
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Bills got a raging boner for SAMs and is only using waters as healthy competition and a safety net.
i'm not sure that this is totally wrong
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Bills got a raging boner for SAMs and is only using waters as healthy competition and a safety net.
i'm not sure that this is totally wrong
Could be. Could definitely be.
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Waters will win the job because Hubert is a good back and will do his thing on the ground, and he is more than athletic enough to fit the system, he makes better decisions with the ball, and is the greater passer overall. I would be happy with either guy and I know everyone here is pro-#LIFE but let's be logical, Waters gives the offense more diversity and the athleticism needed to run a LHC LHC Bill Snyder offense. He will also win us more games IMO. It's just a Spring game, but I'm basing it on film of Waters from IWCC(yes I know it's JUCO), I've seen Sams too and he makes more bad decisions with the ball. The only problem I'd seen with Waters was him underthrowing receivers at IWCC which he didn't do at the Spring game, so he's improved. I just think he's the better option, I mean anyone who throws 39 TDs and VERY few interceptions(3) is fine with me. I'd like to see the better guy win, I just believe it's Waters.
www.gopowercat.com
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Same will start, get banged up and be less effective prompting waters to take over and start until he loses it back to sams.
I really hope this doesn't happen. If it does, we're looking at a pretty sorry season. I love Sams' swag and ability to run, worried about his accuracy. But, if we run the ball well enough, he'll be looking at some wide open receivers like CK did so we should be fine. If Waters just comes in an blows him away, fine but I want Sams on the field somewhere most of the time...
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Waters will win the job because Hubert is a good back and will do his thing on the ground, and he is more than athletic enough to fit the system, he makes better decisions with the ball, and is the greater passer overall. I would be happy with either guy and I know everyone here is pro-#LIFE but let's be logical, Waters gives the offense more diversity and the athleticism needed to run a LHC LHC Bill Snyder offense. He will also win us more games IMO. It's just a Spring game, but I'm basing it on film of Waters from IWCC(yes I know it's JUCO), I've seen Sams too and he makes more bad decisions with the ball. The only problem I'd seen with Waters was him underthrowing receivers at IWCC which he didn't do at the Spring game, so he's improved. I just think he's the better option, I mean anyone who throws 39 TDs and VERY few interceptions(3) is fine with me. I'd like to see the better guy win, I just believe it's Waters.
www.gopowercat.com
KC nailed this one
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I hate this thread.
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I hate this thread.
You were proud of it once upon a time
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I hate this thread.
You were proud of it once upon a time
I was drunk and on a bender, it shouldn't count.
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I think you will be able to bump this thread in the future and be glad you created it.
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I think you will be able to bump this thread in the future and be glad you created it.
Yeah, I could see that too.
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I think you will be able to bump this thread in the future and be glad you created it.
Yeah, I could see that too.
also someone else will bump it every time starting QB sams puts on a thunder stud super show
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I bet Sams and Waters split snaps all through the noncon. Bill won't officially have his guy until we head to Austin and Mack will be completely mind mumped as per usual.
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Either as or per. Never both.
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I was actually fantasizing all morning about how we will beat that UT ass this time around. It's really fun.
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I think it is realistic to see Waters in a bunch. I mean, if our D is as bad as it sounds, we will really need to try to not score too quickly to keep the D off the field and if Sams is going to be in all the time, the other team's score will get ridic. Put waters in, slow down the offense and just use Sams when we need a score.
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Our offense with Sams would need it's own gun control thread with all the "shootout" discussions that would surround it.
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Thanks, steve dave. I will get better.
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Waters will win the job because Hubert is a good back and will do his thing on the ground, and he is more than athletic enough to fit the system, he makes better decisions with the ball, and is the greater passer overall. I would be happy with either guy and I know everyone here is pro-#LIFE but let's be logical, Waters gives the offense more diversity and the athleticism needed to run a LHC LHC Bill Snyder offense. He will also win us more games IMO. It's just a Spring game, but I'm basing it on film of Waters from IWCC(yes I know it's JUCO), I've seen Sams too and he makes more bad decisions with the ball. The only problem I'd seen with Waters was him underthrowing receivers at IWCC which he didn't do at the Spring game, so he's improved. I just think he's the better option, I mean anyone who throws 39 TDs and VERY few interceptions(3) is fine with me. I'd like to see the better guy win, I just believe it's Waters.
www.gopowercat.com
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I was actually fantasizing all morning about how we will beat that UT ass this time around. It's really fun.
Will KSU end mack brown's career this season?
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I was actually fantasizing all morning about how we will beat that UT ass this time around. It's really fun.
Will KSU end mack brown's career this season?
The eff?
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I was actually fantasizing all morning about how we will beat that UT ass this time around. It's really fun.
Will KSU end mack brown's career this season?
The eff?
Incase you didn't know... He has rough ridin' sucked since 08'-9'
Treading on thin ice, getting embarrassed by OU every year hasn't helped either.
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I was actually fantasizing all morning about how we will beat that UT ass this time around. It's really fun.
Will KSU end mack brown's career this season?
The eff?
Incase you didn't know... He has rough ridin' sucked since 08'-9'
Treading on thin ice, getting embarrassed by OU every year hasn't helped either.
If getting his ass kicked by Ronny didn't get him fired, getting curb stomped by Snyder isn't going to either.
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Texas and it's fans have sadly yet completely accepted that the WildWildCats equate to a loss on their schedule. It's not viewed as a negative, just a fact of Texas life.
Now, OU on the other hand. OU is super important to them.
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Texas and it's fans have sadly yet completely accepted that the WildWildCats equate to a loss on their schedule. It's not viewed as a negative, just a fact of Texas life.
Now, OU on the other hand. OU is super important to them.
When was the last time they beat OU? More recently than us?
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Omg eastcat was serious?
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Texas and it's fans have sadly yet completely accepted that the WildWildCats equate to a loss on their schedule. It's not viewed as a negative, just a fact of Texas life.
Now, OU on the other hand. OU is super important to them.
When was the last time they beat OU? More recently than us?
09.
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Texas and it's fans have sadly yet completely accepted that the WildWildCats equate to a loss on their schedule. It's not viewed as a negative, just a fact of Texas life.
Now, OU on the other hand. OU is super important to them.
When was the last time they beat OU? More recently than us?
09.
If Mack was ever to be fired(LOL at them ever firing Mack) it would be the OU issue possibly compounded by football loving donor fans having to suffer through 4 years of David rough ridin' Ashe at qb.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
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Thanks, eastcat.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Bish was born in the wrong generation :cry:
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Also, I've read half a page of this thread. Here's my two cents. If you're rebuilding, as we are, you go with Sams. The guy has so much potential. We win seven games this year with him and the national championship in two years. We go with Waters we win eight games each of the next two years then start the white kid from Iowa. I say go all in with Sams. Give him some experience then it pays off big time down the road.
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I think chip kelly will succeed in philly
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
racist post
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
It is the future :excited:
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
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Also, I've read half a page of this thread. Here's my two cents. If you're rebuilding, as we are, you go with Sams. The guy has so much potential. We win seven games this year with him and the national championship in two years. We go with Waters we win eight games each of the next two years then start the white kid from Iowa. I say go all in with Sams. Give him some experience then it pays off big time down the road.
Do you really think Waters has four years to play? :facepalm:
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Also, I've read half a page of this thread. Here's my two cents. If you're rebuilding, as we are, you go with Sams. The guy has so much potential. We win seven games this year with him and the national championship in two years. We go with Waters we win eight games each of the next two years then start the white kid from Iowa. I say go all in with Sams. Give him some experience then it pays off big time down the road.
Do you really think Waters has four years to play? :facepalm:
what :confused:
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Also, I've read half a page of this thread. Here's my two cents. If you're rebuilding, as we are, you go with Sams. The guy has so much potential. We win seven games this year with him and the national championship in two years. We go with Waters we win eight games each of the next two years then start the white kid from Iowa. I say go all in with Sams. Give him some experience then it pays off big time down the road.
Do you really think Waters has four years to play? :facepalm:
Ertz, you idiot.
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Also, I've read half a page of this thread. Here's my two cents. If you're rebuilding, as we are, you go with Sams. The guy has so much potential. We win seven games this year with him and the national championship in two years. We go with Waters we win eight games each of the next two years then start the white kid from Iowa. I say go all in with Sams. Give him some experience then it pays off big time down the road.
Do you really think Waters has four years to play? :facepalm:
Ertz, you idiot.
I think you both are idiots for not realizing what bucket is trying to say.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
"No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis"
I didn't say it was smart. I'm just saying that what you said was not accurate.
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#swoon
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
"No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis"
I didn't say it was smart. I'm just saying that what you said was not accurate.
Which team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis next year? Someone said it's the future but it looks to me like it won't be happening again any time soon. (Also, lol at calling RGIII and elite QB.)
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
"No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis"
I didn't say it was smart. I'm just saying that what you said was not accurate.
Which team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis next year? Someone said it's the future but it looks to me like it won't be happening again any time soon. (Also, lol at calling RGIII and elite QB.)
All the talk prior to the draft was about how teams are looking for quarterbacks who can run the read option.
Also Griffin had the third highest QBR, rushed for 800+ yards and did it all with the mo'rough ridin' Redskins as a rookie! What is your definition of elite? You really can't be this blind and ignorant.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
"No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis"
I didn't say it was smart. I'm just saying that what you said was not accurate.
Which team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis next year? Someone said it's the future but it looks to me like it won't be happening again any time soon. (Also, lol at calling RGIII and elite QB.)
All the talk prior to the draft was about how teams are looking for quarterbacks who can run the read option.
Also Griffin had the third highest QBR, rushed for 800+ yards and did it all with the mo'rough ridin' Redskins as a rookie! What is your definition of elite? You really can't be this blind and ignorant.
Gonna need a link about the read option stuff, I've heard/read so many things that suggest the NFL is not exactly seeing it as the future so much as a fad. My definition of elite isn't a dude having great numbers for one year, while being paid relatively small money. Let me know when dudes like Brady, Rodgers, Ben, Peyton, etc aren't the ones having the most success (by far) in the league. Also, Luck went to the worst team in the league and put up staggering numbers, don't act like the Skins were as bad as the draft spot they traded into.
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Texas needs to fire Mack asap. They could basically get anyone they wanted.
Chip Kelly will do very well there when Mack steps down in 2 or 3 years
You think he would leave the NFL for Texas?
I don't think his gimmicky offense is going to work well in the NFL. His tame won't have a large talent advantage in every game and the NFL doesn't really allow teams to play as fast as his teams did at Oregon. And yeah, I think he would think the UT job is better than the Philly job.
I'm not so sure the NFL is what it is talked up to be.
People just 2 or 3 years ago said dual threat QB's would never work in the NFL due to the speed at LB and DB. Cam Newton, RGIII and Kaepernick blew the lid off that pretty quick.
Newton had the 13th most passing yards in the league, with 19 TDs and 12 INTs. Kaepernick was practically a non factor on the ground vs Baltimore. RGIII just ended his first pro season and has already had two major knee surgeries. The future for those guys will depend on what they do in the air, not on the ground.
Newton is surrounded by a complete crap team and still made the pro-bowl as a rookie. Not sure what Baltimore game you were looking at but Kaepernick was second in the entire game (both teams) in rushing averaging almost 9yds a carry and RGIII has always ran like an idiot, he was injury prone at Baylor.
It is the future.
No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis, they're entirely too valuable.
The Redskins traded three first round picks and a second rounder for RGIII. He was obviously hampered by an injury and Shannahan still left him out there against the Seahawks. To what? Get in the playoffs and lose their first game?
You're an idiot.
RGIII's season is a perfect example of why teams don't want to risk their QB. Shanahan got an incredible amount of grief from the media for leaving him in there. I'm not sure how you think a documented, recent disaster like that is somehow going to make other teams want to follow suit.
"No NFL team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis"
I didn't say it was smart. I'm just saying that what you said was not accurate.
Which team is going to let their elite QB carry the ball on a regular basis next year? Someone said it's the future but it looks to me like it won't be happening again any time soon. (Also, lol at calling RGIII and elite QB.)
All the talk prior to the draft was about how teams are looking for quarterbacks who can run the read option.
Also Griffin had the third highest QBR, rushed for 800+ yards and did it all with the mo'rough ridin' Redskins as a rookie! What is your definition of elite? You really can't be this blind and ignorant.
Gonna need a link about the read option stuff, I've heard/read so many things that suggest the NFL is not exactly seeing it as the future so much as a fad. My definition of elite isn't a dude having great numbers for one year, while being paid relatively small money. Let me know when dudes like Brady, Rodgers, Ben, Peyton, etc aren't the ones having the most success (by far) in the league. Also, Luck went to the worst team in the league and put up staggering numbers, don't act like the Skins were as bad as the draft spot they traded into.
Watching you try to argue this is equivalent to a slow-mo train wreck.
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HOLY eff STOP QUOTING THE SAME POST
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Love #life! But this is real LIFE! He's the real deal. Cats, man!
Good call, fanning!
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good lord, it's kougs level self thread bumping around here today
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I only have 20 minutes of bbs time today. Deal with it! :comeatme:
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
Jordy LukeForge
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Geordi i guess.
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
man with that avatar it pretty much seals it. you are the best there is
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
I know right!?!?
This is a symbolic representation of today's news.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpastortoddnelsen.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F05%2Fkids-running-through-sprinkler-photo.jpg&hash=55f0647701c848ef6b93cded591ed4781d30f989)
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
I know right!?!?
This is a symbolic representation of today's news.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpastortoddnelsen.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F05%2Fkids-running-through-sprinkler-photo.jpg&hash=55f0647701c848ef6b93cded591ed4781d30f989)
White glee like a carefree summer day?
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
I know right!?!?
This is a symbolic representation of today's news.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpastortoddnelsen.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F05%2Fkids-running-through-sprinkler-photo.jpg&hash=55f0647701c848ef6b93cded591ed4781d30f989)
White glee like a carefree summer day?
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Nothing says football season like fan coming back. Welcome back, friend.
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
It will probably want its defense back too.
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
It will probably want its defense back too.
2004 and 2005 were fun... except for the whole choking the North twice part.
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
I know right!?!?
This is a symbolic representation of today's news.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpastortoddnelsen.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F05%2Fkids-running-through-sprinkler-photo.jpg&hash=55f0647701c848ef6b93cded591ed4781d30f989)
this post disgusts me
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2004 just called... it wants its QB controversy back!
It will probably want its defense back too.
2004 and 2005 were fun... except for the whole choking the North twice part.
2004 and 2005 were complete dogshit years for Big 12 football as a whole, really. It was like watching the 2012 SEC.
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:sdeek: You're kidding!
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25806.msg895489#msg895489 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25806.msg895489#msg895489)
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blackcats should be dropping huge lukes on everyones chests
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only i can drop REAL huge lukes :shakesfist:
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only i can drop REAL huge lukes :shakesfist:
Hence the name........:
Scoopsalot
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F803604181.jpg%3F1377536300&hash=95d8d1127cdf51b8f974d6052dd88ecc17bd87c5)
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Be back by midnight and don't you dare put a scratch in that stadium!
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'04/'05 comparos are pretty stupid considering we have probably the best or second best o-line in the league this year.
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'04/'05 comparos are pretty stupid considering we have probably the best or second best o-line in the league this year.
yeah, but do we have another 04' 05' defense :barf:
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'04/'05 comparos are pretty stupid considering we have probably the best or second best o-line in the league this year.
yeah, but do we have another 04' 05' defense :barf:
Even if we do, which I think is a real possibility, we will be able to control the ball better because our offensive line is rough ridin' great and we'll put up a lot more points. Apples and oranges my friend.
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Be back by midnight and don't you dare put a scratch in that stadium!
The key to our hearts and souls
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umm... that bicep is covered in fur. noway that hairless 22" is his.
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umm... that bicep is covered in fur. noway that hairless 22" is his.
'Clams :shakesfist:
http://gamentrain.com/quick-insane-bicep-tricep-workout/
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'04/'05 comparos are pretty stupid considering we have probably the best or second best o-line in the league this year.
That's funny... 'taters said the same thing in '04.
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umm... that bicep is covered in fur. noway that hairless 22" is his.
'Clams :shakesfist:
http://gamentrain.com/quick-insane-bicep-tricep-workout/
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the pro-lifers are really struggling to deal w/ crap today, sad
I know right!?!?
This is a symbolic representation of today's news.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpastortoddnelsen.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F05%2Fkids-running-through-sprinkler-photo.jpg&hash=55f0647701c848ef6b93cded591ed4781d30f989)
White glee like a carefree summer day?
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hurray _fan is back!
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'04/'05 comparos are pretty stupid considering we have probably the best or second best o-line in the league this year.
That's funny... 'taters said the same thing in '04.
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You have quite a bit of misplaced faith in your memory:
The O-line is the mystery of the wildcats' offense.
http://nationalchamps.net/2004/sub/previews/kansasstate.htm (http://nationalchamps.net/2004/sub/previews/kansasstate.htm)
That seems like an odd thing to say for one of the top units in the conference, right? Then again, you seem to be the expert on 2004 Kansas State football pre-season buzz, so who knows, you could be right.
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umm... that bicep is covered in fur. noway that hairless 22" is his.
'Clams :shakesfist:
http://gamentrain.com/quick-insane-bicep-tricep-workout/
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SON OF A SCHEMED!
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umm... that bicep is covered in fur. noway that hairless 22" is his.
'Clams :shakesfist:
http://gamentrain.com/quick-insane-bicep-tricep-workout/
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SON OF A SCHEMED!
The best part is I showed like 5 ODB's at work that picture when talking about how waters was the starter :driving:
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I hope he isn't getting paid for that endorsement and he stays eligible
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92, 02, 04, 05, 09 seasons where the starter in game one was not the main guy the majority of season
01 Ell started majority of games but QB's were flipped a lot 6-6
92, 04, 05 14-19
02 team 11-2
09 Coffman 2-2, Gregory 4-4
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92, 02, 04, 05, 09 seasons where the starter in game one was not the main guy the majority of season
01 Ell started majority of games but QB's were flipped a lot 6-6
92, 04, 05 14-19
02 team 11-2
09 Coffman 2-2, Gregory 4-4
difference is, both of these QB's are badass motherfuckers