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Title: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2013, 10:06:49 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/22091018/k-states-snyder-college-athletics-in-a-bad-place-right-now (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/22091018/k-states-snyder-college-athletics-in-a-bad-place-right-now)
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2013, 10:07:11 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
Woof.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2013, 10:14:18 AM
I don't know if it really does effect recruiting, but I am tired of the public interviews where he alludes to him not being here long. 

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2013, 10:15:39 AM
I was surprised how open and honest he was
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2013, 10:15:58 AM
what a friggin old timer.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2013, 10:17:54 AM
I didn't read the entire thing but I'm assuming he trashed AAU basketball at some point
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2013, 10:22:29 AM
I was surprised how open and honest he was

yeah definitely
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: williewest on April 17, 2013, 10:24:20 AM
I'm in agreement with Bill on the position being grossly overpaid, and I challenge him to negotiate a lower salary as compensation for his time.  #putyourmoneywhereyourmouthis
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 17, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
bill misses the days of singe wing football and soda jerks  :frown:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2013, 10:26:50 AM
Don't believe Snyder has ever turned down a raise, wouldn't that be the thing to do if he truely felt overpaid?  Doesn't that conflict with his "values"?  Snyder may think these things, but he knows he saved the University through football, and i'm pretty sure he takes great joy in that.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
Don't believe Snyder has ever turned down a raise, wouldn't that be the thing to do if he truely felt overpaid?  Doesn't that conflict with his "values"?  Snyder may think these things, but he knows he saved the University through football, and i'm pretty sure he takes great joy in that.

pro tip: all coaches are full of crap (yes even Bill)
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2013, 10:28:07 AM
He said the same thing, like, three years ago.

Snyder's problem is that he's an addict.  There are a lot of people who don't like something that they're doing, or they feel bad doing it, but they can't stop because they're addicted.

You could probably get a flip side to that interview where he says that he loves the mentoring side of it, working with youngsters, giving back to the Kansas State community, etc.

It's pretty clear that he'd probably like to be retired, but he can't walk away from the game or Kansas State.  He's kind of stuck in purgatory.

If he were sitting in a suite on Saturday while Sean was coaching, he'd be standing there by himself with a notepad, and he'd be in the locker room as soon as the game was over.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Pett on April 17, 2013, 10:46:01 AM
I agree with him. The money flow has been a blessing for us though, he shouldn't mock that...

Gotta love Snyd's
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: felix rex on April 17, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
Oh man. The comments are off to a great start. I'm not even sure what this one means, but I like it:

Quote
Weh weh weh. What a crybaby. Teach your little Mildcats some defense and you might could enjoy the game a little more. Has nothing to do with money, just being tough.

Also, when was the last time you came across the use of "might could"? It's been awhile for me.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Unruly on April 17, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
Oh man. The comments are off to a great start. I'm not even sure what this one means, but I like it:

Quote
Weh weh weh. What a crybaby. Teach your little Mildcats some defense and you might could enjoy the game a little more. Has nothing to do with money, just being tough.

Also, when was the last time you came across the use of "might could"? It's been awhile for me.


I am so terrified that the "might could" saying in the only thing I will bring back to KS with me when I move home from MS. :(
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
What a load of crap from Snyder.

The same guy who under the previous regime wanted lump sum payments set up in such a way so as to possibly avoid taxes.   

If he really feels like he's overpaid, than decline the $2.75 million a year new contract (which made him the 2nd highest paid state employee behind Bill Self), ask for significantly less money, and insist that money not used for his salary be used to pay assistant coaches and/or plowed back into facilities and technology for the football program.   

What a self serving load of tripe.

Sad

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2013, 11:02:15 AM
dax, he was cranky today.  And old.

Old people rarely ever say, "Man, things are so much better now than they were when I was younger."
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2013, 11:02:51 AM
What a load of crap from Snyder.

The same guy who under the previous regime wanted lump sum payments set up in such a way so as to possibly avoid taxes.   

If he really feels like he's overpaid, than decline the $2.75 million a year new contract (which made him the 2nd highest paid state employee behind Bill Self), ask for significantly less money, and insist that money not used for his salary be used to pay assistant coaches and/or plowed back into facilities and technology for the football program.   

What a self serving load of tripe.

Sad

He is full of crap.  That said, I would love if they took that salary and put it into assistants.  We would be very well off if they did that.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: treysolid on April 17, 2013, 11:05:12 AM
 Snyder once again showing why he's BITB
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 11:06:55 AM
No being BITB means never apologizing for the money you make, or stating that you're overpaid.

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
Snyder once again showing why he's BITB

What?  How?  By basically telling recruits that he most likely won't be around for their full time at KSU if they choose to come here?

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2013, 11:14:35 AM
dax, he was cranky today.  And old.

Old people rarely ever say, "Man, things are so much better now than they were when I was younger."

Our generation will. See my future thread! :ksu:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: treysolid on April 17, 2013, 11:19:16 AM
No being BITB means never apologizing for the money you make, or stating that you're overpaid.

No. BITB means he gets to lie his ass off to reporters and troll all you hayseeds. He walks away from that interview looking squeeky clean but once he gets back to the office he's gonna slip some hundreds into a envelope and hand it to #life and then go make about 20 impermissible phone calls.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
No being BITB means never apologizing for the money you make, or stating that you're overpaid.

No. BITB means he gets to lie his ass off to reporters and troll all you hayseeds. He walks away from that interview looking squeeky clean but once he gets back to the office he's gonna slip some hundreds into a envelope and hand it to #life and then go make about 20 impermissible phone calls.

It's not trolling when you know every bit of the man's salary history at K-State and the things he's done insofar as his LLC and other things go over the years.   All he does in this article is come off as a cranky old man, and when Dodd's documents his salary then it leads right into an easy question of why he takes the money if he think's he's overpaid.

Terrible.

BITB is a Jim Calhoun style answer that says I'm worth every effing penny.



Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2013, 11:28:41 AM
dax shut up
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2013, 11:32:52 AM
Meh. He got a chance to vent and in his typical Snyder way he did. What was poor is that the interviewer didn't ask him why he accepted the contract he did just a few months ago. In the market he's in, he's earned his pay, even if he says dumb stuff to the press. And dumb stuff he says in an April interview will have very little effect on how Snyder typically goes about recruiting.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 11:35:34 AM
dax shut up

No
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: PowercatPat on April 17, 2013, 11:37:20 AM
I agree with his thoughts. Conference realignment is ruining college athletics.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
if you think bill asked for a raise you're wrong. it's more about athletic departments staying competitive, and the last thing a coach wants to do in his industry is turn down a raise.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
if you think bill asked for a raise you're wrong. it's more about athletic departments staying competitive, and the last thing a coach wants to do in his industry is turn down a raise.

Everyone on here understands why athletic departments give raises, and up until the very last one, many people (on here and elsewhere) were hinting that Bill wanted more money.   He got another raise just a year before this last one.

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2013, 12:03:55 PM
I'm fine with giving coaches coming off of conference titles extensions.

I don't care if Bill has stacks of bills in his Tatarrax house that he uses in place of firewood, what he does with his well earned money is his business. I also really don't care if he says curmudgeony old man things once in a while. The only thing we really care about is if he repeats 04/05 and if he doesn't I'll leave him alone.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2013, 12:12:39 PM
I agree with his thoughts. Conference realignment is ruining college athletics.

This is silly.  We are still going to play football games.  We are still going to play basketball games.  Who cares if we do so against Colorado or not?

All conf realignment is doing is making sure that there is as much TV as possible and that there is as much money as possible.  They aren't changing the game, just some of the teams we play.  Honestly, who cares as long as you aren't one of the weird schools that has to travel 2000 miles to play half your opponents? 
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
I'm fine with giving coaches coming off of conference titles extensions.

I don't care if Bill has stacks of bills in his Tatarrax house that he uses in place of firewood, what he does with his well earned money is his business. I also really don't care if he says curmudgeony old man things once in a while. The only thing we really care about is if he repeats 04/05 and if he doesn't I'll leave him alone.

That's not really the point.  We all know Snyder, but 18 year old recruits don't, and don't say they can just talk their way out of it, because some kids and parents can't nor will ever "get it" or really understand our great, but strange football coach.



Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
I'm fine with giving coaches coming off of conference titles extensions.

I don't care if Bill has stacks of bills in his Tatarrax house that he uses in place of firewood, what he does with his well earned money is his business. I also really don't care if he says curmudgeony old man things once in a while. The only thing we really care about is if he repeats 04/05 and if he doesn't I'll leave him alone.

That's not really the point.  We all know Snyder, but 18 year old recruits don't, and don't say they can just talk their way out of it, because some kids and parents can't nor will ever "get it" or really understand our great, but strange football coach.





If Snyder and his staff recruited like most other football programs, then I'd buy that, but they don't. This (recruiting) is by far the worst part about how Snyder does things, and since he lost the core of his first great staff, this has always been the case. I think he's trying to do things differently than he did that led to 04/05, but we have yet to see if what he's doing is better. Regardless, I still think we recruit different and even dumb things he says aren't going to make much difference. And contract or not, other programs are going to continue to use his age in recruiting against us. IMO what he did was an isolated interview and nothing more, if he was doing this on a regular basis, then it would be a legit concern.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
i don't care what this old clown says.  just keep coaching my team until i deem that it's time for you to go out to pasture.  in the meanwhile, say wtf you want. 
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 12:47:29 PM
I'm fine with giving coaches coming off of conference titles extensions.

I don't care if Bill has stacks of bills in his Tatarrax house that he uses in place of firewood, what he does with his well earned money is his business. I also really don't care if he says curmudgeony old man things once in a while. The only thing we really care about is if he repeats 04/05 and if he doesn't I'll leave him alone.

That's not really the point.  We all know Snyder, but 18 year old recruits don't, and don't say they can just talk their way out of it, because some kids and parents can't nor will ever "get it" or really understand our great, but strange football coach.





If Snyder and his staff recruited like most other football programs, then I'd buy that, but they don't. This (recruiting) is by far the worst part about how Snyder does things, and since he lost the core of his first great staff, this has always been the case. I think he's trying to do things differently than he did that led to 04/05, but we have yet to see if what he's doing is better. Regardless, I still think we recruit different and even dumb things he says aren't going to make much difference. And contract or not, other programs are going to continue to use his age in recruiting against us. IMO what he did was an isolated interview and nothing more, if he was doing this on a regular basis, then it would be a legit concern.

Again, you're speaking about this from the perspective of a long time K-State fan, and a "that's just Bill" mindset.


Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on April 17, 2013, 12:58:11 PM
Well, I think he speaks the truth for one. College Coaches make too much money along with professional athletes. I mean these people barely even contribute to society. What do they contribute, good football teams, basketball teams, etc.? The only way they contribute to society is if they donate their money or spend all of it and help boost economy.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: one time gella on April 17, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
He just remembered this morning that he agreed to a season opening Friday night football game...which is gonna throw his scheme all out of wack.
Then the phone rings for this radio interview...and Bam...
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2013, 01:03:02 PM
Again, you're speaking about this from the perspective of a long time K-State fan, and a "that's just Bill" mindset.

I guess I'm at a loss for what perspective you want me to come from. Its not like Bill is going to change drastically and hoping he's going to change much at this point seems pretty pointless. I just hope he doesn't have a 04/05 repeat.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
Well, I think he speaks the truth for one. College Coaches make too much money along with professional athletes. I mean these people barely even contribute to society. What do they contribute, good football teams, basketball teams, etc.? The only way they contribute to society is if they donate their money or spend all of it and help boost economy.

Entertainment is a huge contribution to society. An easy way to see that is to look at how much money is spent on it every year.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: PowercatPat on April 17, 2013, 02:06:46 PM
I agree with his thoughts. Conference realignment is ruining college athletics.

This is silly.  We are still going to play football games.  We are still going to play basketball games.  Who cares if we do so against Colorado or not?

All conf realignment is doing is making sure that there is as much TV as possible and that there is as much money as possible.  They aren't changing the game, just some of the teams we play.  Honestly, who cares as long as you aren't one of the weird schools that has to travel 2000 miles to play half your opponents?

I like playing teams like MU and NU who we have long traditions with and are extremely close for road games. I think most fans, especially the tucks, like to play teams that they have conncections with. Mizzou playing in the SEC and Rutgers and Maryland playing in the Big 10 is just stupid. They don't fit in at all.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
conference realignment isn't necessarily ruining college sports but it is making them worse. just my opinion.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2013, 02:12:37 PM
The constant bullshit anxiety is what is causing the issues.  What I am saying is that it is bullshit because it ultimately doesn't matter unless you are Weird Robert and go to every away game.

I mean, if you still like watching MU play fb, they are still a short drive away.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: PowercatPat on April 17, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
The constant bullshit anxiety is what is causing the issues.  What I am saying is that it is bullshit because it ultimately doesn't matter unless you are Weird Robert and go to every away game.

I mean, if you still like watching MU play fb, they are still a short drive away.

That's not the point. Nobody likes watching Mizzou play, we like watching K-State play Mizzou.

After what KSU went through twice with conference realignment, I'm surprised more of you aren't against it.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: deputy dawg on April 17, 2013, 02:16:20 PM
We've been having collective heart attacks for over 2 years over conference realignment, which is code for maximizing athletic dept revenue.  The pursuit of money in collegiate athletics is Snyder's complaint.  Most of the posters to this thread can be traced to a semi-bedwetting post of panic in the realignment thread, so don't know why everyone is so analytical and preachy.

Conference realignment = Maximizing AD Revenue = Pursuit of Money in Collegiate Sports
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
Again, you're speaking about this from the perspective of a long time K-State fan, and a "that's just Bill" mindset.

I guess I'm at a loss for what perspective you want me to come from. Its not like Bill is going to change drastically and hoping he's going to change much at this point seems pretty pointless. I just hope he doesn't have a 04/05 repeat.

Why make it harder, articles like that make it harder IMO.

Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: ben ji on April 17, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Well, I think he speaks the truth for one. College Coaches make too much money along with professional athletes. I mean these people barely even contribute to society. What do they contribute, good football teams, basketball teams, etc.? The only way they contribute to society is if they donate their money or spend all of it and help boost economy.

Does having an elite football team help boost economy of the city and university we all love?

I dont know about you but I was on cloud 9(actually the 50 yard line) after we beat texas and locked up a Dr. Pepper, I would assume alot of other people were as well and this is why we spend ridiculous amounts of money going to games/watching tv/buying merchandise and this is why athletes and coaches are paid so well.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
Again, you're speaking about this from the perspective of a long time K-State fan, and a "that's just Bill" mindset.

I guess I'm at a loss for what perspective you want me to come from. Its not like Bill is going to change drastically and hoping he's going to change much at this point seems pretty pointless. I just hope he doesn't have a 04/05 repeat.

Why make it harder, articles like that make it harder IMO.

They aren't exactly helpful, but I mentioned that as long as they are isolated (and this is; just an article based on a radio interview), then it really isn't going to be much of a drag on the methods we currently use in recruiting. I agree that he needs to avoid the "I'm not sure how much longer I'll coach" stuff.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2013, 03:05:09 PM
good grief, even I don't give a crap about what Bill says.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2013, 03:32:56 PM
good grief, even I don't give a crap about what Bill says.
:rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk: :rolleyes: :jerk:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Direct effing shot at john currie guys.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: kostakio on April 17, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
Kietzman is on the radio this afternoon talking about the interview and pimping Sean as the next head coach.  Maybe this is exactly what Bill wanted when he made those comments?
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Shoeless Joe Jackson on April 18, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
@KellisRobinett: LHC Bill Snyder on cold April weather: "I am thinking about Al Gore. I hope he is broke by now. Global Warming isn’t all it’s made out to be."   :bill:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2013, 01:05:15 PM
Bill fits ks perfectly
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2013, 01:06:35 PM
@KellisRobinett: LHC Bill Snyder on cold April weather: "I am thinking about Al Gore. I hope he is broke by now. Global Warming isn’t all it’s made out to be."   :bill:

:sdeek:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: puniraptor on April 18, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
@KellisRobinett: LHC LHC Bill Snyder on cold April weather: "I am thinking about Al Gore. I hope he is broke by now. Global Warming isn’t all it’s made out to be."   :bill:

:sdeek:

bill obviously hasn't seen the day after tomorrow
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 'taterblast on April 18, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
 it's like he suddenly has no fucks to give
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
it's like he suddenly has no fucks to give
I know. He's even more boss now that he's senile.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 18, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
it's like he suddenly has no fucks to give
I know. He's even more boss now that he's senile.
:nono:
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2013, 02:41:36 PM
It's like Bill forgot it was 115 deg F in MHK last summer.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2013, 03:02:35 PM
It's like Bill forgot it was 115 deg F in MHK last summer.

Emo, it's supposed to be hot in the summer.

Also, that one summer day when it was only 60, bill totally burned Al Gore then too, and D Scott tweeted it to the world so everyone could shame Gore together.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 18, 2013, 03:43:38 PM
We need to invite Al Gore to give a Landon Lecture so that Bill could show up and shame him in person.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2013, 03:51:12 PM
We need to invite Al Gore to give a Landon Lecture so that Bill could show up and shame him in person.

Would pay fantastic money to attend, but only if Gore's lecture was discussing the results of a review of campus and the sports complex and how green they are and how this neg effects global warming.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: pvegs on April 18, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
Wonder what Bill would say to Diane Rehm?
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 19, 2013, 01:20:47 PM
Bill would say he's overpaid if he was only making $500k  a year.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Cire on April 19, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
might as well figure tate's scholly into his salary.
Title: Re: Bill is fed up, wants to quit
Post by: Shacks on April 20, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
might as well figure tate's scholly into his salary.

Add Sean's salary to Bill's too