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Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2013, 10:45:15 PM
I have a 5 year old whirlpool side by side fridge/freezer. it no longer stops running. everything is frozen solid for the last 24 hours. vents are clear, cleaned out the tremendous amount of lint in the coils, the works really. still doesn't shut off. is there a quick fix or am I stuck paying a guy to come fix it?
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Post by: sys on March 29, 2013, 10:47:06 PM
it's broken.  you have to sell it on craigslist and buy a new one.
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Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 10:47:52 PM
its just working really well you whiner
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Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 10:48:19 PM
plus, have you tried turning it off and on?
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: puniraptor on March 29, 2013, 10:49:23 PM
It will be $90 to answer this question and another $150 to fix the problem.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
How did Steve dave let anything in his house get to be five years old?
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Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 10:54:24 PM
How did Steve dave let anything in his house get to be five years old?
good ?uestion chum1
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Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 10:57:04 PM
Is the coil still frosted over?  Are there drain lines for the mechanics, are they clear? What about the drain line from the freezer down?
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 10:57:55 PM
drain lines!
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2013, 11:00:15 PM
drain lines: no idea what/where those are  :frown:
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
Thermostat probs.  Thermostat gets satisfied when a certain temp is reached. If broken, the thermostat won't get satisfied and therefore won't switch off the cooling.

Just a guess. No clue how to fix it or anything.

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Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
On my side by side it is in the bottom of the freezer.  Mine got frozen over, caused it to overwork, freeze up the compressor and foul everything up.  I had to empty everything out of my freezer (luckily I had my garage fridge) and let it defrost.  Than I poured hot water down the drain line with bleach to clean the line out.  Under the fridge there was a pan which collects water from that drain line and any condensation off the compressor and condenser.  Make sure that pan is clear, and the drain line is attached properly with no kinks, bends, or contact which could block the end.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 11:07:33 PM
never buy whoorpool, sumsung all the wayl
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
On my side by side it is in the bottom of the freezer.  Mine got frozen over, caused it to overwork, freeze up the compressor and foul everything up.  I had to empty everything out of my freezer (luckily I had my garage fridge) and let it defrost.  Than I poured hot water down the drain line with bleach to clean the line out.  Under the fridge there was a pan which collects water from that drain line and any condensation off the compressor and condenser.  Make sure that pan is clear, and the drain line is attached properly with no kinks, bends, or contact which could block the end.

This seems like great advice if I wasn't a complete dumbass
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: puniraptor on March 29, 2013, 11:13:14 PM
never buy whoorpool, sumsung all the wayl

http://dagobah.net/flash/Samsung_means_to_come.swf (http://dagobah.net/flash/Samsung_means_to_come.swf)
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 11:13:31 PM
its really easy, I was about to pay for it till someone gave me similar advice, written a bit more clearly.  It could save you 80 bucks for 20 minutes of work.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CHONGS on March 29, 2013, 11:13:54 PM
never buy whoorpool, sumsung all the wayl

http://dagobah.net/flash/Samsung_means_to_come.swf (http://dagobah.net/flash/Samsung_means_to_come.swf)
didn;t have to click I love that crap and all she does.  personal hero
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
not sure why sammy isn't listed
http://www.appliance411.com/purchase/make.shtml

Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
Unplugged it for the night. Hopefully works again when I plug it in tomorrow!
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Post by: jtksu on March 29, 2013, 11:33:39 PM
Derp! My name is Steve Dave and my fridge is too cold!  Somebody help me! Derp!
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Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 11:36:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4oW908iGRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tARlz_AWjOM (multipart)
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2013, 11:45:13 PM
The drainage thing wouldn't explain why it keeps running, if in fact it keeps running.

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Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: kim carnes on March 29, 2013, 11:47:54 PM
buy one of these you broke loser

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_RnKAiurURG0%2FTDtfrcUAI-I%2FAAAAAAAAEzo%2FZcz7_FbODJc%2Fs800%2Fxl611g.jpg&hash=261cf8865d078cc6500ebd8cae232841eb34cdab)
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: jtksu on March 29, 2013, 11:55:06 PM
buy one of these you broke loser

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_RnKAiurURG0%2FTDtfrcUAI-I%2FAAAAAAAAEzo%2FZcz7_FbODJc%2Fs800%2Fxl611g.jpg&hash=261cf8865d078cc6500ebd8cae232841eb34cdab)

Dude, that fridge is rough ridin' stupid. Glass doesn't insulate for crap and the cubic footage of that thing is probably similar to an igloo cooler.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2013, 11:59:04 PM
The drainage thing wouldn't explain why it keeps running, if in fact it keeps running.

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my understanding is that it would if the compressor is half frozen straining to cool the unit.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: kim carnes on March 30, 2013, 12:00:49 AM
buy one of these you broke loser

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_RnKAiurURG0%2FTDtfrcUAI-I%2FAAAAAAAAEzo%2FZcz7_FbODJc%2Fs800%2Fxl611g.jpg&hash=261cf8865d078cc6500ebd8cae232841eb34cdab)

Dude, that fridge is rough ridin' stupid. Glass doesn't insulate for crap and the cubic footage of that thing is probably similar to an igloo cooler.

if i was a broke loser then i would care about those things (also, you're a dumbass and neither of those things are true)
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: bones129 on March 30, 2013, 12:00:56 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: jtksu on March 30, 2013, 12:04:35 AM
buy one of these you broke loser

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_RnKAiurURG0%2FTDtfrcUAI-I%2FAAAAAAAAEzo%2FZcz7_FbODJc%2Fs800%2Fxl611g.jpg&hash=261cf8865d078cc6500ebd8cae232841eb34cdab)

Dude, that fridge is rough ridin' stupid. Glass doesn't insulate for crap and the cubic footage of that thing is probably similar to an igloo cooler.

if i was a broke loser then i would care about those things (also, you're a dumbass and neither of those things are true)

Yes, you're right. Glass is routinely used to insulate and that fridge is clearly extremely spacious. Also, that is one freaking gigantic apple and those are ostrich eggs.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 30, 2013, 12:06:39 AM
Since you're going to probably need to unplug it for an extended period of time to service the unit, it wouldn't hurt to try just unplugging it (you can take advantage of your perma cold freezer by freezing several plastic foot containers full of water and throwing them in a cooler with all your food which you should remove from the fridge whilst thawing to keep everything cold)  Theres a chance that something is plugged/frozen up that could explain your problem.

If you fire it back up and it still wont shut off (toss a thermometer in there, it shouldn't go much below below 0F on most freezers) then you likely have a broken thermostat regulator.  The good news is that this is one of the easier parts of a fridge to replace (if it were any part of the coolant system (compressor, coils leaking, etc) you'd probably just need to throw the thing out.  The thermostat should just be a little electrical relay somewhere in the unit, if you google your specific make and model you should be able to get a youtube video of someone replacing it or at least a service manual (assuming you don't just save those sorts of things, since they gave you one when you bought it!)   Using some combination of wrenches and drivers you should be able to access the offending thermostat.  It'll have a couple wires running in an out of it that you should just be able to pull off the unit/decouple.  At this point you'll be able to hook up a new thermostat/regulator that you've obtained from ebay/sears/the internets and put everything back together.  It should function like normal, do the same tests as mentioned above. 

Do not leave this thing running non-stop while you wait for the part to come in... take your food to your folks place/gfs/neighbors or eat it or chuck it, leaving that compressor running non-stop will burn up the motor and ruin the fridge.   Which is an option, just go get a new one.  Did you forget you are  :kstategrad: ?
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: hemmy on March 30, 2013, 12:08:55 AM
Have you tried kicking it steve dave? Try kicking it.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2013, 12:19:54 AM
thermostat

<---- totally just fixed the level switch in the crappy GE washer because I'm leaving it here when we buy the new house
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2013, 12:25:31 AM
Thanks for the protips friends!
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2013, 02:43:32 AM
go out to eat every night.  fridges are only used to keep your beverages cool.
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Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2013, 03:01:34 AM
Obv  :kstategrad: wouldn't know this, call a Penn Valley or ISU grad for this type of work.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on March 30, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
I'm with kim carnes. Stop being a broke loser steve dave, you stupid broke loser.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2013, 08:18:21 AM
plugged back in, running nonstop for the last hour  :frown: repair guy coming at 10
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 30, 2013, 08:20:09 AM
Push it down a set of stairs
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2013, 08:23:31 AM
Push it down a set of stairs

won't fit, thing's enormous
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
plugged back in, running nonstop for the last hour  :frown: repair guy coming at 10

You should totally manipulate your AC neighbor into looking at it.  Lots of same stuff involved.
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2013, 10:56:04 AM
I think you have to move
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
So, what was it?

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Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: Rams on March 30, 2013, 12:54:34 PM
mods please merge with shame yourself thread tia
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Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 30, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
Leave it open and the temp will probably balance out.  You are welcome.  You can buy me a beer next time I see you. 
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Post by: ednksu on March 30, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
so what was it?
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
Thermostat. Only took him about 20 minutes to switch it out. $265 which I didn't think was that bad.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 30, 2013, 10:16:50 PM
Thermostat. Only took him about 20 minutes to switch it out. $265 which I didn't think was that bad.
I'll take $265 for writing out a step by step document on how to do this yourself, since you're just handing bills out, PM for mailing instructions
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: ednksu on March 31, 2013, 12:04:26 AM
Well grats to CNS as well
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Post by: bones129 on March 31, 2013, 12:07:20 AM
Glad to see steve dave resolved this situation favorably. I had a fridge blow up a few years ago. Terribly expensive.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2013, 07:41:48 AM
Thermostat. Only took him about 20 minutes to switch it out. $265 which I didn't think was that bad.
I'll take $265 for writing out a step by step document on how to do this yourself, since you're just handing bills out, PM for mailing instructions

you're also going to have to go get the thermostat, drive to my house and do the labor on it. I don't pay the dorks that mow my yard to explain to me how to mow my own yard.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
never buy whoorpool, sumsung all the wayl

this is probably the best advice in this thread, i'm not sure though because i stopped reading after i got to this.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: jtksu on March 31, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
never buy whoorpool, sumsung all the wayl

this is probably the best advice in this thread, i'm not sure though because i stopped reading after i got to this.

Samsung dryers kinda suck balls.
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2013, 10:42:27 AM
sad that sd is so the poors he can't afford a sub zero, T's and p's
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Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
sad that sd is so the poors he can't afford a sub zero, T's and p's

It's very unsettling, I hope everything is ok financially for him.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 31, 2013, 03:19:45 PM
Thermostat. Only took him about 20 minutes to switch it out. $265 which I didn't think was that bad.
I'll take $265 for writing out a step by step document on how to do this yourself, since you're just handing bills out, PM for mailing instructions

you're also going to have to go get the thermostat, drive to my house and do the labor on it. I don't pay the dorks that mow my yard to explain to me how to mow my own yard.
No, you pay other dorks $600/hr to install something that you could have done yourself
http://www.amazon.com/Whirlpool-Part-Number-3387134-Thermostat/dp/B001CCK5HS (http://www.amazon.com/Whirlpool-Part-Number-3387134-Thermostat/dp/B001CCK5HS)
Title: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2013, 04:03:14 PM
Yeah, I pay thousands if dollars for people to do all kinds if crap for me that I could do myself. Some day if you replace enough fridge parts you can too.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 31, 2013, 04:50:21 PM
Won't take very long with rubes shelling out those kinda bucks to someone who probably barely had a high school education
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Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2013, 07:52:03 PM
Won't take very long with rubes shelling out those kinda bucks to someone who probably barely had a high school education

I'd probably be a millionaire if I changed my own oil too huh.
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: Phil Titola on March 31, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Time is worth something...as is having people do things right.  It's how we make this economy function. 
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Post by: HerrSonntag on March 31, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
You are all making me feel really stupid for spending all that time getting an engineering degree.   
Title: Re: Appliance Specialists!
Post by: Tobias on August 04, 2013, 03:14:10 AM
so counter depth refrigerators are a bunch smaller and cost many times more than standard refrigerators?   :rolleyes: