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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: ksupamplemousse on March 28, 2013, 11:41:35 PM
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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-03-28/weber-reflects-first-season-k-state (http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-03-28/weber-reflects-first-season-k-state)
"Obviously the last game bothers us. It's going to to sit here until next year and you're going to think back and you can't figure it out"
:facepalm: :flush:
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
:sdeek: :horrorsurprise:
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I'm scared to click that link.
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JFC :facepalm:
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I'm scared to click that link.
Art gets surgery on his wrist (knee was just a smokescreen?), and Will is a terrific basketball player, his weak legs and shitty teammates have been conspiring against him.
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Coach Weber Circle of Life
He is hired and takes over another team:
:) :D :grin: ;) :blush: :crossfingers: :love: :thumbsup: :excited: :drool: :driving:
Then he builds his own team:
:ohno:
:horrorsurprise:
:pray:
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
:drink:
Then Burn it down happens:
:shakesfist: :chainsaw: :curse:
The Execution of oscar :blindfold:
New Coach comes in and
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
:dance: :billdance: :dance: :billdance: :dance: :billdance: :love:
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Coach Weber Circle of Life
He is hired and takes over another team:
:) :D :grin: ;) :blush: :crossfingers: :love: :thumbsup: :excited: :drool: :driving:
Then he builds his own team:
:ohno:
:horrorsurprise:
:pray:
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
:drink:
Then Burn it down happens:
:shakesfist: :chainsaw: :curse:
The Execution of oscar :blindfold:
New Coach comes in and
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
:dance: :billdance: :dance: :billdance: :dance: :billdance: :love:
Picasso?
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The idea of a Diaz RS is intriguing but if it was going to happen it should have happened this year. No way we can afford that next year unless oscar has some major studs up his sleeve.
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The idea of a Diaz RS is intriguing but if it was going to happen it should have happened this year. No way we can afford that next year unless oscar has some major studs up his sleeve.
oscar seems to be "a day late and a dollar short" kinda guy.
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The idea of a Diaz RS is intriguing but if it was going to happen it should have happened this year. No way we can afford that next year unless oscar has some major studs up his sleeve.
Based on his past performance, what would we really lose if Diaz is a RS next season?
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agreed we are going to be desperate for rebounding and diaz is going to have to be the answer some of the time.
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The idea of a Diaz RS is intriguing but if it was going to happen it should have happened this year. No way we can afford that next year unless oscar has some major studs up his sleeve.
Based on his past performance, what would we really lose if Diaz is a RS next season?
Another warm body. Dude is useful in certain roles and him eating a scholarship while redshirting isn't exactly going to be beneficial.
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Yeah, like I said, redshirt him this year and he could have been good next yr. But there's no realistic way to redshirt him next year unless oscar is just willing to throw away a season and wait for Angel's senior campaign in 2014 (at which point our collective pitchforks will be dangerously close to oscar's colon).
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"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
IN SOME ASPECTS IT IS
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his indecisive wishy washiness will drive even the most tuckiest of tuckies in tuckieville absolutely insane by the time he finally quits coaching at kstate.
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his indecisive wishy washiness will drive even the most tuckiest of tuckies in tuckieville absolutely insane by the time he finally quits coaching at kstate.
You underestimate their resolve to leave on the blinders
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Excuses, excuses, name of ksu guy, excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses,
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his indecisive wishy washiness will drive even the most tuckiest of tuckies in tuckieville absolutely insane by the time he finally quits coaching at kstate.
i noticed it one of the first time's i heard him on 810. it's really pretty remarkable and i think he's completely unaware of it, or how it makes him sound.
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his indecisive wishy washiness will drive even the most tuckiest of tuckies in tuckieville absolutely insane by the time he finally quits coaching at kstate.
He won't quit, he will get fired.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
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Will had one hellacious sternum hernia.
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"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
IN SOME ASPECTS IT IS
If your goal is to just make the tourney...then maybe.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Life must be sad as a robot. Cheer up tin man.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Everyone here made fun of Frank's bullshit all the time.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
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I still like the Prince hire more than the oscar hire. Prince's situation doomed him just like oscar's saved him.
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everyone just calm the eff down
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Everyone here made fun of Frank's bullshit all the time.
chum's right. oscar is the first basketball coach I've ben critical of. I definitely see his point.
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I know this Team #BurnItDown must be a lot of fun for all you guys, but c'mon, comparing Prince to oscar is silly. oscar will most likely be very similar to Frank here, in terms of results, but instead of the 'Sideline Psycho' shtick, he's a goofy loser. oscar has had a good coaching career, no reason to think he will just destroy the program.
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No reason
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Life must be sad as a robot. Cheer up tin man.
I'm talking about the conclusions people draw about winning games from the things a coach says. It's silly because all coaches are full of crap.
The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Everyone here made fun of Frank's bullshit all the time.
Some did sometimes. Mostly, people bought in.
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#NOREASON
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Recruits don't win games, scheduling wins games.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Everyone here made fun of Frank's bullshit all the time.
chum's right. oscar is the first basketball coach I've ben critical of. I definitely see his point.
In all seriousness, you don't count. You're just the exact opposite of a homer.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
i lolled @ martin's crazy excesses, but i mostly loved them (except for his recruiting jucos just to frank them and their entire lives a year later). i don't make fun of weber's quirks and i don't really enjoy them.
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I know this Team #BurnItDown must be a lot of fun for all you guys, but c'mon, comparing Prince to oscar is silly. oscar will most likely be very similar to Frank here, in terms of results, but instead of the 'Sideline Psycho' shtick, he's a goofy loser. oscar has had a good coaching career, no reason to think he will just destroy the program.
I don't think oscar will be similar to Frank. Also, anytime you compare anyone to Prince you have to account for batshit insane entertainment factor. Regardless of wins, oscar falls woefully short on that. Frank was closer
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Some did sometimes. Mostly, people bought in.
Bought into what? His "being a man" speeches? His "kids these days" rants? His stories about being a math teacher? Followed by "stats are for losers" quotes?
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oscar brought us a conference title, 0-3 vs KU, and a round 1 NCAA flop.
Prince brought us Freeman/stomp/purple pants, 0-9 vs KU/MU/NU, and a Texas Bowl flop.
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oscar brought us a conference title, 0-3 vs KU, and a round 1 NCAA flop.
Prince brought us Freeman/stomp/purple pants, 0-9 vs KU/MU/NU, and a Texas Bowl flop.
Mocat completely ignoring Prince facing Mac at a time when KSU'ers actually thought we may not own TX.
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Some did sometimes. Mostly, people bought in.
Bought into what? His "being a man" speeches? His "kids these days" rants? His stories about being a math teacher? Followed by "stats are for losers" quotes?
I've posited that everything he said was bullshit. So, any time he said something and someone thought it had something to do with winning games would count as an example.
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The people who react negatively to oscar's bullshit are just as dumb as the people who reacted positively to Frank's bullshit. Conveniently, they're probably the same people.
Everyone here made fun of Frank's bullshit all the time.
chum's right. oscar is the first basketball coach I've ben critical of. I definitely see his point.
In all seriousness, you don't count. You're just the exact opposite of a homer.
:love: welp, check this off my bucket list.
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what were Frank's excuses?
The only one I can remember was "youth". Which completely infuriated me.
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oscar brought us a conference title, 0-3 vs KU, and a round 1 NCAA flop.
Prince brought us Freeman/stomp/UTx2/purple pants, 0-9 vs KU/MU/NU, and a Texas Bowl flop.
Mocat completely ignoring Prince facing Mac at a time when KSU'ers actually thought we may not own TX.
Oh yeah, I knew I was forgetting something.
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i think Prince going 0-3 against KU in football would be worse than oscar going 0-10 against them in bball.
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what were Frank's excuses?
The only one I can remember was "youth". Which completely infuriated me.
It infuriated all of us because it was always his fault. Yeah, when you run off half the team every year, you end up with "youth".
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
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I know this Team #BurnItDown must be a lot of fun for all you guys, but c'mon, comparing Prince to oscar is silly. oscar will most likely be very similar to Frank here, in terms of results, but instead of the 'Sideline Psycho' shtick, he's a goofy loser. oscar has had a good coaching career, no reason to think he will just destroy the program.
Nothing more tired than people invoking #BIDers whenever someone has a criticism of Weber.
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I love it when Weber manages to not trip up stairs and tucks take to twitter to face #BID in mass amts.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
I enjoy the conference title as much as the next guy, but I don't care about it as far as grading oscar's future potential. I don't think oscar will be able to win a conference title again the same way he did this year. Getting swept by KU and then hoping KU drops one at home and one to the worst team in the conference is not repeatable. Being a game back as KU goes into their final game and watching them lose is not repeatable. Not that its not a legitimate title, but how much credit should oscar get for the conference title when that many breaks went his way?
Also, as nice as that shared title was, I grade a majority of the season on the NCAAs. Not getting out of the first round is inexcusable for a team. Especially one that you want to laud for winning a conference title.
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Lol. Weird that Elgas still hasn't had a head coaching job :shy:
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
This is the first time since 04-05 that KU has lost more than 3 conference games, and they've only lost 3 conference games twice since then. Do you really see oscar Weber competing for Big 12 titles on a regular basis?
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his indecisive wishy washiness will drive even the most tuckiest of tuckies in tuckieville absolutely insane by the time he finally quits coaching at kstate.
i noticed it one of the first time's i heard him on 810. it's really pretty remarkable and i think he's completely unaware of it, or how it makes him sound.
It's his diarrea of the mouth that makes me think he will be a good for a 'it's hard to win here' comment when things go south, and the tucks will rally.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
This is the first time since 04-05 that KU has lost more than 3 conference games, and they've only lost 3 conference games twice since then. Do you really see oscar Weber competing for Big 12 titles on a regular basis?
I think oscar is more than capable of doing what Frank had been doing (finishing in top 4-5 of league) ...All i was trying to say is that, comparing oscar to Prince is a pretty big stretch, especially their first seasons. Call me crazy, i guess.
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
This is the first time since 04-05 that KU has lost more than 3 conference games, and they've only lost 3 conference games twice since then. Do you really see oscar Weber competing for Big 12 titles on a regular basis?
I think oscar is more than capable of doing what Frank had been doing (finishing in top 4-5 of league) ...All i was trying to say is that, comparing oscar to Prince is a pretty big stretch, especially their first seasons. Call me crazy, i guess.
Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
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Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
duds when Prince had them. :bill: made them studs
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Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
Prince recruited Klein. I mean, if Klein = most of the studs then I guess you're right. Other than that, very little Prince influence
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Is oscar >, <, or = to Ron Prince?
If you looked at just results, they will probably be similar. If you look at everything rough ridin' else, Ron Prince was light years better.
This might be one of the dumbest things i've seen on this board.
You're an idiot. Which one was more entertaining, oscar's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) media non-comments or Ron Prince doing radical bullshit and 5 trick plays a game? The biggest difference is that if there was a Prince equivalent in basketball, he would get 5-7 years. Much longer leash in basketball than football.
Comparing their first years, losing in the first round of the NCAAs is pretty damn comparable to losing the Texas Bowl.
how convenient to leave out the Conference title oscar just won, which hasn't happened in over 3 decades. This season was nothing like a 7-6 football season, JFC.
This is the first time since 04-05 that KU has lost more than 3 conference games, and they've only lost 3 conference games twice since then. Do you really see oscar Weber competing for Big 12 titles on a regular basis?
I think oscar is more than capable of doing what Frank had been doing (finishing in top 4-5 of league) ...All i was trying to say is that, comparing oscar to Prince is a pretty big stretch, especially their first seasons. Call me crazy, i guess.
Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
Yes he did a wonderful job of getting Chris Harper and Arthur Brown to K-State. On opposite day.
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Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
Prince recruited Klein. I mean, if Klein = most of the studs then I guess you're right. Other than that, very little Prince influence
Reading Beems posts about football is :facepalm:
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snyder got stan parrish recruits to bowl eligibility too fwiw
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Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
Prince recruited Klein. I mean, if Klein = most of the studs then I guess you're right. Other than that, very little Prince influence
Reading Beems posts about football is :facepalm:
This is making me believe the conspiracy theory that Beems is just a bot that the mods built to stir up traffic and posts.
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snyder got stan parrish recruits to bowl eligibility too fwiw
This is an excellent post.
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Prince recruited most of the studs that took Old Balls to a Fiesta Bowl. So there's that.
Prince recruited Klein. I mean, if Klein = most of the studs then I guess you're right. Other than that, very little Prince influence
Reading Beems posts about football is :facepalm:
This is making me believe the conspiracy theory that Beems is just a bot that the mods built to stir up traffic and posts.
Or maybe Beems made up a bunch of Mods bots? huh? Crazy, I know
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You guys should tuck this away, just in case you don't already have it...
http://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/
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Weird that Elgas still hasn't had a head coaching job :shy:
http://gopurpleaces.com/coaches.aspx?rc=314&path=mbball
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Weber : NC game appearance :: Prince : D'Brickashaw?
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You guys should tuck this away, just in case you don't already have it...
http://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/
That is one thing that bothered me after the LaS game, that he blamed it on freethrow shooting. Take a lesson from frank and just call the players selfish or some stupid crap, don't pull some BS excuse out of your ass.
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Weird that Elgas still hasn't had a head coaching job :shy:
http://gopurpleaces.com/coaches.aspx?rc=314&path=mbball
Elgas is .500 as a head coach.
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If you want to compare Webster at KSU to another coach, compare him to Webster at Illinois. Playing in the Big 12 Confy Title game and sharing the Confy Championship with KU = Playing in the National Title game while at Illinois. Expect similar, but at a different level, results because Webster at KSU did not have as many horses in the stable as Webster at Illinois did upon arrival.
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Well, oscar is in good company.
The guy still cuts his own lawn, with a humble mower, 40 minutes, back and forth making sure the lines are precise.
"Yes, he mows his own lawn on a push mower," said son Patrick, who played for his dad at West Virginia, assisted him at Michigan and is now in the family business as the head coach at West Virginia Wesleyan. Well, John cuts it, unless Patrick or one of his brothers is home to do it. The coach is still there to monitor the process, of course.
"He'll say, 'Patrick, look at how your lines are,' " the son laughed. "That's just how he was raised. He was taught to do things by himself."
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Well, oscar is in good company.
The coach is still there to monitor the process, of course.
"He'll say, 'Patrick, look at how your lines are,' " the son laughed. "That's just how he was raised. He was taught to do things by himself."
seems like he was taught to have unpaid youth do things for him.
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Well, oscar is in good company.
The coach is still there to monitor the process, of course.
"He'll say, 'Patrick, look at how your lines are,' " the son laughed. "That's just how he was raised. He was taught to do things by himself."
seems like he was taught to have unpaid youth do things for him.
And then bitch at them about it
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Well, if that's the case, he found his niche in the NCAA.
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Well, if that's the case, he found his niche in the NCAA.
yeah, my post had a double meaning! Ha!
but seriously, what kind of dad makes his grown up kids mow his lawn when they come visit? And then bitch at their shitty job!
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Well, if that's the case, he found his niche in the NCAA.
yeah, my post had a double meaning! Ha!
but seriously, what kind of dad makes his grown up kids mow his lawn when they come visit? And then bitch at their shitty job!
My dad. :dunno:
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I hated it when frank complained about energy or effort. Hey, Don't have a 2 hour practice the morning of a game dumbass.
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oscar lives every coaching cliche, prince created new ones.
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Well, if that's the case, he found his niche in the NCAA.
yeah, my post had a double meaning! Ha!
but seriously, what kind of dad makes his grown up kids mow his lawn when they come visit? And then bitch at their shitty job!
My dad. :dunno:
I would stop visiting
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if you don't help do household stuff when you go visit your aging parents, you're a pretty horrible person.
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Well, if that's the case, he found his niche in the NCAA.
yeah, my post had a double meaning! Ha!
but seriously, what kind of dad makes his grown up kids mow his lawn when they come visit? And then bitch at their shitty job!
My dad. :dunno:
I would stop visiting
I consider it payback for raising me. :shy: