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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: BostonPancake on March 24, 2013, 05:08:58 PM
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I was just thinking that if Bill Self retired, left for the NBA, etc., who would ku replace him with?? When Roy left, Self was the obvious choice at the time, though no one knew he would be as great as he is.
I don't know who they would get that would be acceptable. Do you go with Turgeon now?? I doubt it. Would Crean leave Indiana? Maybe. I don't think Calipari would jet Kentucky, but you still have to call. Do you try Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens? Who would be acceptable to the fans?
Serious hypotheticals only, please.
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Make a run at Beilein, probably get shot down, go for Shaka Smart. After those two go after Stevens.
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Manning would want it but doesn't have the experience yet. Stevens and Smart would be at the top of the list. I suspect Turgeon would want and get a look but would not be a front runner.
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KU would never hire Shaka Smart.
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I don't think you leave Indiana.
Brad Stevens seems like he'll be a lifer at Butler, especially with them going to the Big East.
Turgeon probably gets an interview. Manning gets an interview. Don't know who Zenger would hire, though, or who Dana Anderson would tell him to hire.
There doesn't seem to be a slam dunk guy at a mid-major or high major that would qualify. Maybe Shaka, but I honestly don't think they'd want him because, well...you know how their fans are.
Hell, if Marshall keeps winning at WSU, I wouldn't be shocked if they talked to him.
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Sean Miller.
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Hell, if Marshall keeps winning at WSU, I wouldn't be shocked if they talked to him.
Yeah, if it happened this year they probably wouldn't, but in a year or two I could definitely see it.
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KU would never hire Shaka Smart.
Probably luked, but I heard Shaka has publicly voiced his disdain for KU. :dunno:
Do not have a link and will not look.
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Sean Miller.
Yeah, that name popped into my head, too.
I think they start out with Brad Stevens and throw a truckload of money at him until he says, "No." Then they move on.
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KU would never hire Shaka Smart.
Probably luked, but I heard Shaka has publicly voiced his disdain for KU. :dunno:
Do not have a link and will not look.
Yep. Last yr. They hate them some Shaka
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If KU hired Brad Stevens, that would be great news for K-State fans. Regardless, they're not getting someone as good as Self.
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I like the Sean Miller idea, that guy has some serious charisma.
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Sean Miller.
Yeah, that name popped into my head, too.
I think they start out with Brad Stevens and throw a truckload of money at him until he says, "No." Then they move on.
They should start out with Miller and then move on, imo.
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Yep. The other two or three guys as good as Bill won't leave their current gig.
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Tad Boyle
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Tad Boyle
Good thought. Worth an interview, at least.
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buzz williams
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Tad Boyle
This is it.
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buzz williams
Yes, I thought of that name, too. Just didn't know if it was a big enough name.
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If KU got Stevens I would slit my wrists. KU would dominate for years.
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
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Turg and he brings 'te w him.
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
both are very good, but I think Stevens scares me a little more because he's sustained it longer.
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Best outcome for us would be Doc Sadler...
All joking aside, there are only two or three guys in the business at the college level that could even get close to holding Selfs hairpiece...
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
are you serious?
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
At the time, Roy was far more highly regarded. Hell, if you asked a ku fan at that time if they wanted Roy or Bill, Roy would have won hands down. Now ask the same question and nobody would trade.
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
are you serious?
Yes. I understand Williams was the safer hire, but Self had a much higher upside. Look at his resume up to that point. He was 35-13 at Illinois, with 2 Elite 8's and a sweet 16 under his belt.
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
are you serious?
Yes. I understand Williams was the safer hire, but Self had a much higher upside. Look at his resume up to that point. He was 35-13 at Illinois, with 2 Elite 8's and a sweet 16 under his belt.
higher upside? What? Roy has two titles. Harder for upside to really be any higher.
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And not to mention he won the Big 10 regular season or Big 10 tournament every season he was at Illinois.
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
How did UNC not go after Self instead of Roy?
are you serious?
Yes. I understand Williams was the safer hire, but Self had a much higher upside. Look at his resume up to that point. He was 35-13 at Illinois, with 2 Elite 8's and a sweet 16 under his belt.
Roy had played for multiple national titles. The only "upside" Self had is his age.
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I mean, retrospect is 20/20, but looking at their resumes up to that point I see more upside in Self's, and yes, age obviously being a factor. He won everywhere he went with consistency, never had a down year. Good grief, he took Oral Roberts from 6-21 to 21-7, and Tulsa from 19-12 to 32-5. Also, I didn't realize he was an assistant at KU in the 80's.
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
He took Butler to two national championship games. BUTLER.
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
He took Butler to two national championship games. BUTLER.
This. Not to mention dominating Smart hth. If Smart was white nobody would think he's better than Stevens.
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I like Sean Miller more than Stevens.
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They really got insanely lucky with Self.
pales in comparison to the good fortune they got with Roy
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
He took Butler to two national championship games. BUTLER.
This. Not to mention dominating Smart hth. If Smart was white nobody would think he's better than Stevens.
smart dominated Stevens this year hth
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
He took Butler to two national championship games. BUTLER.
This. Not to mention dominating Smart hth. If Smart was white nobody would think he's better than Stevens.
smart dominated Stevens this year hth
F4 >>>>> some game
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Izzo would get a serious look.
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Stevens loses to a bunch of no names all the time. Smart is a much better coach.
He took Butler to two national championship games. BUTLER.
This. Not to mention dominating Smart hth. If Smart was white nobody would think he's better than Stevens.
smart dominated Stevens this year hth
F4 >>>>> some game
Yeah, but I don't think the results of one game is enough to justify the statement "If Smart was white nobody would think he's better than Stevens." Keep in mind I said in this thread that I would take Stevens over Smart.
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Geno what's his name. UCONN guy
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Izzo would get a serious look.
man, he's only 58. I'd really hate it if you got him. That'd be two straight KU coaches that I couldn't possibly hate. Hire Mike Anderson or something.
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I would put Buzz at the top of my list - lack of high major experience for Stevens concerns me at a Blue Blood like Ku. Tad's recruiting might put him above Turg, which I find amusing.
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Weber?
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Izzo wouldn't go.
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
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Hawks, is there somebody Bill would recommend? His coaching tree doesn't have a guy that comes to mind.
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there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
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Great thread.
You can take Smart and Miller off the list. KU boosters hate both of them (and the feeling is mutual w/ Smart).
Buzz Williams and Tad Boyle are the most logical suggestions so far, imo.
Maybe Stevens.
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Hawks, is there somebody Bill would recommend? His coaching tree doesn't have a guy that comes to mind.
He does have Doc alongside on the bench...nah, Bill won't make that recommendation.
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
Yes he would.
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I might roll the dice with Pastner instead of any of the former players if it was my call after Buzz, Brad and Sean said no.
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Izzo would laugh in KU's (or anyone else's) face.
Agree on Miller and Buzz. Pastner needs a F4 or success at some High-Major stop and he would be near top of the list. I would take him now (as KU), but I'm not sure they would.
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
Yes he would.
MSU can give Izzo everything that KU could dream of and does so already. Plus, it's home. Izzo would laugh in KU's fat face.
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
Yes he would.
that would be like getting Boehiem to leave Syracuse or JT3 to leave GT. Izzo won't leave while Jud is still alive.
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there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
KU would have ended up with Izzo, Calipari, or Crean if it wasn't Self. Quit acting like our program was on the brink of collapse or something.
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:shakesfist:there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you :shakesfist: are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
KU would have ended up with Izzo, Calipari, or Crean if it wasn't Self. Quit acting like our program was on the brink of collapse or something.
One of these things is not like the others.
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there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
This is spot on.
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
Yes he would.
:lol:
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Izzo would get a serious look.
He would not leave MSU for KU.
Yes he would.
Izzo turned down ridiculous money from the NBA to stay at MSU. I know you're fishing, but both of us know that he wouldn't.
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:shakesfist:there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you :shakesfist: are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
KU would have ended up with Izzo, Calipari, or Crean if it wasn't Self. Quit acting like our program was on the brink of collapse or something.
roy + bill is a lightning strike. no one is saying ku would be texas tech at this point, but none of those other coaches would have the sustained level of success bill and roy has had.
don't be rough ridin' stupid ben, you know this is true (you also know izzo would never go to ku).
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don't forget Kentucky had to hire BCG once upon a time - guys who already have it good don't always want the pressure of a Blue Blood
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:shakesfist:there just aren't many good young coaches at the bcs level that you :shakesfist: are pretty sure would succeed at Kansas. Buzz and Miller are about the only ones. Which kind of highlights how lucky they got with Self.
KU would have ended up with Izzo, Calipari, or Crean if it wasn't Self. Quit acting like our program was on the brink of collapse or something.
do you think your options today would equal that list? I don't. (I don't think ku was on the brink of collapse,either, but I don't think you would have gotten izzo or have been as successful with crean.)
I mean you got a top five coach nationally, you have to acknowledge a little luck being involved.
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Side Note: I always heard Brad Stevens would listen to Indiana, but not really anywhere else. I'm sure he'd listen to other schools, but realistically, with where Butler is now headed as a member of the Big East, I think the odds of him ever leaving a God-like existence and sitting on piles of Fox TV money over the next thirty years is probably about the same as me flying to the moon on a unicorn.
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
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Weber?
I said this earlier in the year and Chings ripped my head off for it.
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
Miller now has arguably accomplished more than Self had when hired by ku.
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
he's been a coach at MSU for 30 years. you are a functional Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
ku probably has a shot at coach k or jim bohiem in your world as well right?
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
1) That was a decade ago, before the Big Ten hit the jackpot and now has revenues that are out of this world (MSU has the highest operating margin and revenue of any program in the nation, I believe...)
2) Izzo is a lot older now. It's much less likely to pull an old guy away.
KU will get a good coach, but a lot of the elites are going to have a harder time because most schools (except us) are keeping their good coaches, and a lot of the really good ones with KU acceptable resumes are already in great and/or elite jobs and probably don't want to take that risk.
KU was a CLEAR step up from Illinois. MSU and KU, given what Izzo has built, is not that much of a step up.
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
Miller now has arguably accomplished more than Self had when hired by ku.
Given how down the Pac-12 is, and how good a program Arizona is, Miller is going to be hard pressed to leave that job any time soon.
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Great thread.
You can take Smart and Miller off the list. KU boosters hate both of them (and the feeling is mutual w/ Smart).
Buzz Williams and Tad Boyle are the most logical suggestions so far, imo.
Maybe Stevens.
Why do they hate Miller? Because of their game with Zona in '10 where it got kind of chippy?
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Izzo stays where he is.
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My boss's dad is a huge MSU alum, played football there, the story goes that Izzo's only thing left to do in bball is the NBA. He told me point blank, Izzo would never leave, I brought this up when Self was flirting with OSU. My boss's dad and Izzo are close friends, apparently.
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You guys just don't understand how good of a job KU really is. We signed Self after he had tons of success at Illinois. Izzo was actively interested in the KU job back when Roy left.
1) That was a decade ago, before the Big Ten hit the jackpot and now has revenues that are out of this world (MSU has the highest operating margin and revenue of any program in the nation, I believe...)
2) Izzo is a lot older now. It's much less likely to pull an old guy away.
KU will get a good coach, but a lot of the elites are going to have a harder time because most schools (except us) are keeping their good coaches, and a lot of the really good ones with KU acceptable resumes are already in great and/or elite jobs and probably don't want to take that risk.
KU was a CLEAR step up from Illinois. MSU and KU, given what Izzo has built, is not that much of a step up.
All good points. I still think that if KU offered Izzo $6+ million a year, we could get him. It wouldn't be easy, though.
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Great thread.
You can take Smart and Miller off the list. KU boosters hate both of them (and the feeling is mutual w/ Smart).
Buzz Williams and Tad Boyle are the most logical suggestions so far, imo.
Maybe Stevens.
Why do they hate Miller? Because of their game with Zona in '10 where it got kind of chippy?
Yes. Remember, we're talking about KU fans here; their butthurt has no statute of limitations.
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Side Note: I always heard Brad Stevens would listen to Indiana, but not really anywhere else. I'm sure he'd listen to other schools, but realistically, with where Butler is now headed as a member of the Big East, I think the odds of him ever leaving a God-like existence and sitting on piles of Fox TV money over the next thirty years is probably about the same as me flying to the moon on a unicorn.
i read something over the weekend stating that Butler's move to the Big East makes his job harder and that he is more willing to listen now. He won't be able to dominate a pud conference anymore. He's smart to be choosy though. I'd take Stevens over Smart, but that's just me.
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Whoevs wrote that about Stevens probably doesn't understand the personality of a competitive coach.
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I would think the fans and the big money alumni, would want Stevens hands down. If not him I like the ideas of Tad Boyle or Buzz Williams.
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Why not Turg?
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Why not Turg?
I know most people like him, for some reason I am just not a huge fan.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
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Why not Turg?
I know most people like him, for some reason I am just not a huge fan.
I'm not either, but it seems like he has been discussed as an eventual replacement since he was at WSU.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
I agree. If they want a "KU guy" they should just get Turgeon. He is only one of two coaches to have any success at all at Texas A&M and the only coach to ever have sustained success there.
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attractiveness is an important component in a head coach. turgeon just doesn't have what it takes to lead a program like ku's.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
:dunno:
I would take him over Bruceketball.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
:dunno:
I would take him over Bruceketball.
for KU.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
:dunno:
I would take him over Bruceketball.
for KU.
Might have less to do with Tad Boyle love and more to do with lack of love for other candidates.
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i do not get the Tad Boyle love. at all.
:dunno:
I would take him over Bruceketball.
for KU.
Might have less to do with Tad Boyle love and more to do with lack of love for other candidates.
Would you take Boyle over Turgeon?
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Self's goal is to become the all-time winningest coach in KU basketball history. He just signed a 10-year contract extension, so KU doesn't have to worry about hiring another coach for at least another decade or so. We won't have to settle for a Turgeon or Boyle.
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Self's goal is to become the all-time winningest coach in KU basketball history. He just signed a 10-year contract extension, so KU doesn't have to worry about hiring another coach for at least another decade or so. We won't have to settle for a Turgeon or Boyle.
You know it's possible for coaches to bolt before their contracts expire, right?
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The thing that's gotten to be kind of sad about all of our resident ku friends is that they're slipping into "explainer guy" mode more and more.
I am guilty of it, and probably do it a little to much on this board . . . at times. But Explainer Guy immediately goes into sports nerd/fanboi mode, always there to validate, clarify and explain the situation. The last post by Beems is a fine example of that.
I'm going to need to see a little more out of resident j-hawk friends besides a round robin of butthurt, Explainer Guy, Not getting it guy.
Pick up your game, or take some time off, regroup and come back strong.
I'm here for you.
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Now back on topic: Tad Boyle is interesting because he seems to want to play a little JYC type basketball, but I didn't see much of CU this year, so maybe that's changed.
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Tad Boyle rough ridin' sucks, plain and simple. KU would be stupid to hire that clown.
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Tad Boyle rough ridin' sucks, plain and simple. KU would be stupid to hire that clown.
Turgeon sucks too.
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Tad Boyle rough ridin' sucks, plain and simple. KU would be stupid to hire that clown.
Turgeon sucks too.
OK, so does Jim wooldridge. Great addition to the discussion.
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Tad Boyle rough ridin' sucks, plain and simple. KU would be stupid to hire that clown.
Turgeon sucks too.
OK, so does Jim wooldridge. Great addition to the discussion.
jfc rusty. Turgeon has been brought up in this thread (like Boyle). your Wooly ref is out of left rough ridin' field.
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Self's goal is to become the all-time winningest coach in KU basketball history. He just signed a 10-year contract extension, so KU doesn't have to worry about hiring another coach for at least another decade or so. We won't have to settle for a Turgeon or Boyle.
Can this be linked or are you just making up his goals?
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turgeon would be great at ku, they'd be stupid not to hire him.
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Is Richard Pitino worthy of at least keeping an eye on??
They came within 2 points of replacing WKU in the NCAA tourney, appeared to have kind of an up and down regular season though.
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Beems, 810 was saying last week that Bill would have to coach you guys for another 10 yrs and avg 30 wins/season to do that. Both of which seem unlikely given that his current avg over the last 10 yrs is under that 30 game mark, and that most coaches don't do anything anywhere for 20yrs at a time.
Who knows, but I would say the odds aren't in his favor.
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Beems, 810 was saying last week that Bill would have to coach you guys for another 10 yrs and avg 30 wins/season to do that. Both of which seem unlikely given that his current avg over the last 10 yrs is under that 30 game mark, and that most coaches don't do anything anywhere for 20yrs at a time.
Who knows, but I would say the odds aren't in his favor.
His average over the last ten years is actually 30.1 wins. It is right on that cusp.
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Beems, 810 was saying last week that Bill would have to coach you guys for another 10 yrs and avg 30 wins/season to do that. Both of which seem unlikely given that his current avg over the last 10 yrs is under that 30 game mark, and that most coaches don't do anything anywhere for 20yrs at a time.
Who knows, but I would say the odds aren't in his favor.
His average over the last ten years is actually 30.1 wins. It is right on that cusp.
Haven't looked myself, but 810 was saying it was like 28.something.
:dunno:
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Beems, 810 was saying last week that Bill would have to coach you guys for another 10 yrs and avg 30 wins/season to do that. Both of which seem unlikely given that his current avg over the last 10 yrs is under that 30 game mark, and that most coaches don't do anything anywhere for 20yrs at a time.
Who knows, but I would say the odds aren't in his favor.
His average over the last ten years is actually 30.1 wins. It is right on that cusp.
Haven't looked myself, but 810 was saying it was like 28.something.
:dunno:
Both in the same neighborhood. I have included this year, at this point in time, they may not have.
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Beems, 810 was saying last week that Bill would have to coach you guys for another 10 yrs and avg 30 wins/season to do that. Both of which seem unlikely given that his current avg over the last 10 yrs is under that 30 game mark, and that most coaches don't do anything anywhere for 20yrs at a time.
Who knows, but I would say the odds aren't in his favor.
His average over the last ten years is actually 30.1 wins. It is right on that cusp.
Haven't looked myself, but 810 was saying it was like 28.something.
:dunno:
Both in the same neighborhood. I have included this year, at this point in time, they may not have.
Can confirm 30.1 average but they played like 55 games in 07-08 so it's a little skewed
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Either way, it seems crazy that Bill would have to do another 10 yrs of equal or greather than Bill to get to that milestone.
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Butler's Brad Stevens to Celtics :sdeek:
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Butler's Brad Stevens to Celtics :sdeek:
Damn, that's pretty baller for both.
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Wow. Didn't see that coming. Figured Brad was a college guy. Good for him.
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if I'm Stevens I don't touch the celtics gig, but I'm not and he did
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Stevens in Pro Basketball
#Weird
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if I'm Stevens I don't touch the celtics gig, but I'm not and he did
He'll make more money than any college gig, and he'll be able to go to a high-high major and be a better recruiter than before if he decides to return to college. Great move for him. Great for the Celtics because they're thinking outside the box and didn't just hire someone like Vinny Del Negro or Flip Saunders.
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if I'm Stevens I don't touch the celtics gig, but I'm not and he did
He'll make more money than any college gig, and he'll be able to go to a high-high major and be a better recruiter than before if he decides to return to college. Great move for him. Great for the Celtics because they're thinking outside the box and didn't just hire someone like Vinny Del Negro or Flip Saunders.
i believe he currently had his pick of college jobs.
mostly tho, my comment is a reflection of my feelings towards celtics management and my opinion of the franchise as a whole.
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if I'm Stevens I don't touch the celtics gig, but I'm not and he did
He'll make more money than any college gig, and he'll be able to go to a high-high major and be a better recruiter than before if he decides to return to college. Great move for him. Great for the Celtics because they're thinking outside the box and didn't just hire someone like Vinny Del Negro or Flip Saunders.
i believe he currently had his pick of college jobs.
mostly tho, my comment is a reflection of my feelings towards celtics management and my opinion of the franchise as a whole.
yeah, but he'll be making more than he would at any of those college jobs. he'll get to fly on chartered jets and stay in five star hotels and eat caviar and crap for a couple years.
And yeah, the gm is way more important than a coach.
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
LOL, I hope you're joking. Self & Wiggins will be a package deal to San Antonio after next season, when Pop & Duncan retire.
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
LOL, I hope you're joking. Self & Wiggins will be a package deal to San Antonio after next season, when Pop & Duncan retire.
I don't think that the Spurs will be picking anywhere near the top of the first round. Are you implying that Wiggins will be a five-star bum?
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
I talked to "one of my guys" and they told me they've already been in contact with each other :ohno:
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
LOL, I hope you're joking. Self & Wiggins will be a package deal to San Antonio after next season, when Pop & Duncan retire.
I don't think that the Spurs will be picking anywhere near the top of the first round. Are you implying that Wiggins will be a five-star bum?
Just watch what happens :fatty: These manoeuvres are on a level beyond your understanding.
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LBBIQ here so learn me: Why Butler?
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LBBIQ here so learn me: Why Butler?
Bill Self is looking for a "challenge" but mostly to get away from his wife and his girlfriend. Apparently they are filming a new episode of Cheaters TM in Lawrence and it is time to get the hell out of there.
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
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Finally they announce it. I've seen this coming from miles away.
i'm sure you did. also, does Self leave for Butler?!? :sdeek:
LOL, I hope you're joking. Self & Wiggins will be a package deal to San Antonio after next season, when Pop & Duncan retire.
I don't think that the Spurs will be picking anywhere near the top of the first round. Are you implying that Wiggins will be a five-star bum?
Just watch what happens :fatty: These manoeuvres are on a level beyond your understanding.
I can't even give that a :D
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
my dad actually recruited him to DU. much like i recruited Csourk. however, my dad did not use KSUFans PM system to begin the recruitment (as far as i know).
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Pretty much what Michigancat said. If Brad fails at the NBA level, he can still fall to the high major college level. If he jumps to the high major college level and fails, well what's left besides Butler-like schools? Smart move by him.
Also it's no secret that Self wants to return to OSU. I have heard from 2 sources that he has said, without a doubt, he will coach there at some point. As Bilas (I think? maybe Gottlieb or Parish) said, he'll go to the NBA at some point and come back to OSU. Spurs makes the most sense.
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pretty much what i said, he will fail at boston. dumb move by him. wouldn't expect idiots to understand.
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
Yeah, one of their owners is a DU from K-State.
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
Yeah, one of their owners is a DU from K-State.
no
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
Yeah, one of their owners is a DU from K-State.
no
Boston Basketball Partners LLC owns the Boston Celtics. You might wanna look them up and see if one of those 6 investors is an alumnus of Kansas State University and their chapter of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity.
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
Yeah, one of their owners is a DU from K-State.
no
Boston Basketball Partners LLC owns the Boston Celtics. You might wanna look them up and see if one of those 6 investors is an alumnus of Kansas State University and their chapter of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity.
And a super nice guy
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is it d.scott?
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The Celtics are owned by a man who is an EMAW and a KSU DU and personal friend of dlew's dad. Did everyone know that?
no, they aren't
Yeah, one of their owners is a DU from K-State.
no
Boston Basketball Partners LLC owns the Boston Celtics. You might wanna look them up and see if one of those 6 investors is an alumnus of Kansas State University and their chapter of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity.
yeah, none of them went to k-state
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celtics - as an org, suck crap. good luck to d Scott and brad
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http://www.baincapitalprivateequity.com/team/paul-edgerley
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Did you guys just get into an argument with Kim Carnes?
Danny Ainge is pretty questionable as a GM. I like this hire though.
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Who sucks off paul more the DU's or scott hendrix
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Did you guys just get into an argument with Kim Carnes?
Danny Ainge is pretty questionable as a GM. I like this hire though.
you're such a douche
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25% of the BoD at Bain are KSUDUs. And people wonder why K-State is statistically richer and better looking than everyone else.
Who sucks off paul more the DU's or scott hendrix
He wrote a $1.2m check so that we could have nice things. We sort of have to.
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Calipari failed in the NBA got a ton of money and then gets Memphis and then Kentucky jobs
Self, while not the coach that Cal is, will get a nice job if his NBA move is a failure