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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Pett on March 22, 2013, 06:37:05 PM
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Name one player other than Angel, Shane, and Gip that doesn't annoy the eff out of you with their inconsistency. I won't be able to stand watching Will & Nino try to play basketball. They are both complete sh1t
I might fall in love with our incoming class because quite frankly that's all we have :goodbyecruelworld:
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Shane is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
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Angel, Shane and Gip will be fine. Hopefully enough for a bubble seed.
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Shane is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
I'm still seeing red and not thinking clearly, I adore Shane and Gip. Apologies for not including them in the original post
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One step closer to oscar being rough ridin' gone. I can't wait.
Let's all pray to got that after next season, Pearl gets on a mid major. Pearl's probation ends Aug 23, 2014.
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I hope oscar lets Angel take more chances in transition than he did this year. I think it would be a better use of his talent.
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Angel, Shane and Gip will be fine. Hopefully enough for a bubble seed.
Yep. 20-10, 10-8, 10 seed. Way early expectations/hope.
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
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One step closer to oscar being rough ridin' gone. I can't wait.
Let's all pray to got that after next season, Pearl gets on a mid major. Pearl's probation ends Aug 23, 2014.
Dilemma. Currie will never fire Weber, without amazingly bad results....like multiple program crushing seasons.
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
if you think about it, you answered your own question.
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
if you think about it, you answered your own question.
dammit.
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
I'm excited about Marcus Foster and possibly Thomas :dunno:
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
I'm excited about Marcus Foster and possibly Thomas :dunno:
What is Thomas' last name? Or if it is his last name, what is his first name? I need to look him up on rivals.
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One step closer to oscar being rough ridin' gone. I can't wait.
Let's all pray to got that after next season, Pearl gets on a mid major. Pearl's probation ends Aug 23, 2014.
Dilemma. Currie will never fire Weber, without amazingly bad results....like multiple program crushing seasons.
well, let's hope Deloss fucks a guy.
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Expect Southwell and Angel to continue getting better.
Gip is and will continue to be a defensive liability. He was awful today and got beasted by that Wright guy.
I think DJJ will become a good player.
Will needs to quit being a bitch.
I don't really know what to expect from Diaz and Nino.
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13-5. Book it.
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As we've seen from this year, our record next year really won't be determined by how good we'll be.
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I don't really know what to expect from Diaz and Nino.
If Diaz enjoys playing in games then he will transfer
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
I'm excited about Marcus Foster and possibly Thomas :dunno:
What is Thomas' last name? Or if it is his last name, what is his first name? I need to look him up on rivals.
Jevon is his first name.
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
I'm excited about Marcus Foster and possibly Thomas :dunno:
What is Thomas' last name? Or if it is his last name, what is his first name? I need to look him up on rivals.
Jevon is his first name.
Suck it towson, penn state and dayton.
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One step closer to oscar being rough ridin' gone. I can't wait.
Let's all pray to got that after next season, Pearl gets on a mid major. Pearl's probation ends Aug 23, 2014.
Dilemma. Currie will never fire Weber, without amazingly bad results....like multiple program crushing seasons.
Agreed on this. Weber is Currie's first hire, he's going to ride oscar all the way to the CBI
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Do we have anyone good coming in next year. Weird that I don't know.
I'm excited about Marcus Foster and possibly Thomas :dunno:
What is Thomas' last name? Or if it is his last name, what is his first name? I need to look him up on rivals.
Jevon is his first name.
Suck it towson, penn state and dayton.
Jevon Thomas signed, eh? Suck it Towson!!!
:gocho:
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One step closer to oscar being rough ridin' gone. I can't wait.
Let's all pray to got that after next season, Pearl gets on a mid major. Pearl's probation ends Aug 23, 2014.
Dilemma. Currie will never fire Weber, without amazingly bad results....like multiple program crushing seasons.
Agreed on this. Weber is Currie's first hire, he's going to ride oscar all the way to the CBI
Unfortunate, but probably true.
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NIT here we come. :D
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We're going to make the NCAAs next year and shock the world.
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We're going to make the NCAAs next year and shock the world.
Maybe shock a few of the BID team, but not the world. ;)
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13-5. Book it.
yes, the league will make it closer to this than 10 and 8.
Every upper half team loses a more than we do and nobody is bringing back an Angel if Kabingo goes (and I don't see Kabongo making people better or playing d like Angel)
Self's class looks good and they should and likely will win the league but I believe we compete for second with ou, isu and maybe osu depending on who leaves.
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Angel, Shane and Gip will be fine. Hopefully enough for a bubble seed.
Yep. 20-10, 10-8, 10 seed. Way early expectations/hope.
I think we could be better than that. I think people are being a little too down right now, which is cool. I'm down too.
Losing JO hurts on defense, but he was so up and down, it's hard to know exactly what will be lost on the aggregate. Losing Tay will hurt, but hopefully Thomas comes in around Christmas and does well.
Losing Rodney hurts. A lot. But I'm hoping that Angel, Shane, and Gip improve enough to help negate some of that loss.
I think we'll be something like 23-8 with a 12-6/13-5. Something just tells me oscar is going to give us a solid B+ performance through the conference season more often than not by just being what we were this year. Low possessions, low turnovers, lots of jump shooting. Not a ton of highs, but no real lows.
I think we can be the Wisconsin of the Big 12 in the sense that our slow, consistent style of play is going to do well in a league where teams are pretty up and down year after year.
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JO didn't really contribute that much this year. He's much better than he played this season.
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I think we can be the Wisconsin of the Big 12
:runaway:
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You guys know Angel is leaving, right? We might break .500 next year. :frown:
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JO didn't really contribute that much this year. He's much better than he played this season.
he contributed a lot when he played
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JO didn't really contribute that much this year. He's much better than he played this season.
he contributed a lot when he played
He could have been better. But if oscar didn't need him that much this year, he won't need him that much next year either.
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You guys know Angel is leaving, right? We might break .500 next year. :frown:
Where's he headed, kougs?
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You guys know Angel is leaving, right? We might break .500 next year. :frown:
Where's he headed, kougs?
Europa!
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JO didn't really contribute that much this year. He's much better than he played this season.
he contributed a lot when he played
He could have been better. But if oscar didn't need him that much this year, he won't need him that much next year either.
I think oscar could have been more successful if he used jo more. And he was a major factor almost every game he cracked 20 minutes. he will be missed.
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You guys know Angel is leaving, right? We might break .500 next year. :frown:
Where's he headed, kougs?
Europa!
I love it. I don't agree, but I love it.
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JO didn't really contribute that much this year. He's much better than he played this season.
he contributed a lot when he played
He could have been better. But if oscar didn't need him that much this year, he won't need him that much next year either.
I think oscar could have been more successful if he used jo more. And he was a major factor almost every game he cracked 20 minutes. he will be missed.
JO has all conference type potential. oscar definitely did not take advantage.
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Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2007–2012)
2007–08 Kansas State 21–12 10–6 3rd NCAA 2nd Round
2008–09 Kansas State 22–12 9–7 T–4th NIT 2nd Round
2009–10 Kansas State 29–8 11–5 T–2nd NCAA Elite Eight
2010–11 Kansas State 23–11 10–6 T–3rd NCAA 3rd Round
This should be the standard for EMAW hoops going forward. Every four seasons we should have at one last high seed season, two middling and non-bubble type seasons, and one bubblish/ possible NIt season is acceptable and reasonable.
We're two years into the second 4 seasons since we've been good again.
2011–12 Kansas State 22–11 10–8 5th NCAA 3rd Round
2012–13 Kansas State 27–8 14–4 T-1st NCAA Rd of 64
i was confident that Frank could keep up the pace. i'm not as sold on oscar as a program steward.
if we can keep up this pace, or even the pace of the last seven seasons including Huggs' year here, KSU would be one of the most respected programs in hoops.
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You guys know Angel is leaving, right? We might break .500 next year. :frown:
Where's he headed, kougs?
Europa!
Kougar, are you messing with our emotions. If Angel leaves, then we're effed. :frown:
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i was confident that Frank could keep up the pace.
I'm not confident we would have made the E8 again.
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I think we should be a 6 seed in the tournament next year. Angel is a very special player and we will make the tournament the next 2 years.
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Chances are that you'll be dead before k state makes the elite eight again.
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I think we should be a 6 seed in the tournament next year. Angel is a very special player and we will make the tournament the next 2 years.
protip: in the pros (even overseas) they call it the "playoffs."
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i was confident that Frank could keep up the pace.
I'm not confident we would have made the E8 again.
I'm confident we would have had the potential. I mean, this year's team had the potential.
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jo's effort vs Florida probably kept this season from slipping into the 10 and 8 bubble season that was predicted by our 5th preseason ranking.
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NIT here we come. :D
Nothing beats NIT home games, nothing.
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I think we can be the Wisconsin of the Big 12
:runaway:
I went and looked at a bunch of their recruiting classes. I'm sticking with this comparison and riding it into the ground.
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NIT here we come. :D
Nothing beats NIT home games, nothing.
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They just gota rub it in. :bang:
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
no
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oscar would have to miss the tourney for 2 straight years to even remotely have a shot at getting fired. And that is remote, imo. He gets 3 more years.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
no
5-13 wouldn't? Probably not, given how committed this admin is to their huge mistake.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13.
:rolleyes: Almost everyone is back next year.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13.
:rolleyes: Almost everyone is back next year.
Except our best scorer, rebounder, interior defender, and 2 of our better perimeter defenders.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13.
:rolleyes: Almost everyone is back next year.
Except our best scorer, rebounder, interior defender, and 2 of our better perimeter defenders.
:rolleyes: Something similar happens every year.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13.
:rolleyes: Almost everyone is back next year.
Except our best scorer, rebounder, interior defender, and 2 of our better perimeter defenders.
:rolleyes: Something similar happens every year.
Good point. Explains why every athletic team that has a change in personnel tends to perform comparably year-to-year.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
Everyone is getting hit pretty hard this year...
KU will lose their entire starting five.
ISU loses 5 of their top 7 scorers.
OU loses 3 of their top 6 scorers (top two in Pledger and Osby)
OSU will lose Smart and Olukemi for sure. Mock draft boards have Brown as a 1st round pick. He's likely gone. Nash may declare to salvage whatever stock he may have left...don't know.
Baylor loses Jackson and Austin will leave. The rest of them are effing awful.
Texas will most likely lose Kabongo.
WVU returns nearly everyone but the foreign guy. They might actually be pretty decent.
Tech and TCU don't count.
When we look at these teams during Big 12 Media Days, KSU may end up bringing back the most intact roster and the most returning points from their starters. Angel Rodriguez will probably be the only player from the first two All-Big 12 teams, and he may be on a short list for Big 12 Player of the Year.
I mean, yeah, today was horrible, but next year isn't going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. We bring back a lot in a down league that's taking another big hit next year.
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I'm looking forward to competing for another big 12 title.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
Everyone is getting hit pretty hard this year...
KU will lose their entire starting five.
ISU loses 5 of their top 7 scorers.
OU loses 3 of their top 6 scorers (top two in Pledger and Osby)
OSU will lose Smart and Olukemi for sure. Mock draft boards have Brown as a 1st round pick. He's likely gone. Nash may declare to salvage whatever stock he may have left...don't know.
Baylor loses Jackson and Austin will leave. The rest of them are effing awful.
Texas will most likely lose Kabongo.
WVU returns nearly everyone but the foreign guy. They might actually be pretty decent.
Tech and TCU don't count.
When we look at these teams during Big 12 Media Days, KSU may end up bringing back the most intact roster and the most returning points from their starters. Angel Rodriguez will probably be the only player from the first two All-Big 12 teams, and he may be on a short list for Big 12 Player of the Year.
I mean, yeah, today was horrible, but next year isn't going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. We bring back a lot in a down league that's taking another big hit next year.
Good info. Gotta give Self credit until he doesn't get it done, though. The next five look to be a split. So maybe revise best case to 13-5.
But that would probably mean continued Big 12 being down. Look to tourney to see where we stand in relation to the country.
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
Everyone is getting hit pretty hard this year...
KU will lose their entire starting five.
ISU loses 5 of their top 7 scorers.
OU loses 3 of their top 6 scorers (top two in Pledger and Osby)
OSU will lose Smart and Olukemi for sure. Mock draft boards have Brown as a 1st round pick. He's likely gone. Nash may declare to salvage whatever stock he may have left...don't know.
Baylor loses Jackson and Austin will leave. The rest of them are effing awful.
Texas will most likely lose Kabongo.
WVU returns nearly everyone but the foreign guy. They might actually be pretty decent.
Tech and TCU don't count.
When we look at these teams during Big 12 Media Days, KSU may end up bringing back the most intact roster and the most returning points from their starters. Angel Rodriguez will probably be the only player from the first two All-Big 12 teams, and he may be on a short list for Big 12 Player of the Year.
I mean, yeah, today was horrible, but next year isn't going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. We bring back a lot in a down league that's taking another big hit next year.
Except Angel is leaving, so...
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
Everyone is getting hit pretty hard this year...
KU will lose their entire starting five.
ISU loses 5 of their top 7 scorers.
OU loses 3 of their top 6 scorers (top two in Pledger and Osby)
OSU will lose Smart and Olukemi for sure. Mock draft boards have Brown as a 1st round pick. He's likely gone. Nash may declare to salvage whatever stock he may have left...don't know.
Baylor loses Jackson and Austin will leave. The rest of them are effing awful.
Texas will most likely lose Kabongo.
WVU returns nearly everyone but the foreign guy. They might actually be pretty decent.
Tech and TCU don't count.
When we look at these teams during Big 12 Media Days, KSU may end up bringing back the most intact roster and the most returning points from their starters. Angel Rodriguez will probably be the only player from the first two All-Big 12 teams, and he may be on a short list for Big 12 Player of the Year.
I mean, yeah, today was horrible, but next year isn't going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. We bring back a lot in a down league that's taking another big hit next year.
Except Angel is leaving, so...
Are you just screwing around, or do you actually know something?
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JO won us a couple of games down the stretch this year.
KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and Baylor all have the potential to sweep us next year. We should sweep TCU and Tech. WVU and Texas look like 1-1.
Best case, 10-8. Worst case, 5-13. Would that get oscar fired?
Everyone is getting hit pretty hard this year...
KU will lose their entire starting five.
ISU loses 5 of their top 7 scorers.
OU loses 3 of their top 6 scorers (top two in Pledger and Osby)
OSU will lose Smart and Olukemi for sure. Mock draft boards have Brown as a 1st round pick. He's likely gone. Nash may declare to salvage whatever stock he may have left...don't know.
Baylor loses Jackson and Austin will leave. The rest of them are effing awful.
Texas will most likely lose Kabongo.
WVU returns nearly everyone but the foreign guy. They might actually be pretty decent.
Tech and TCU don't count.
When we look at these teams during Big 12 Media Days, KSU may end up bringing back the most intact roster and the most returning points from their starters. Angel Rodriguez will probably be the only player from the first two All-Big 12 teams, and he may be on a short list for Big 12 Player of the Year.
I mean, yeah, today was horrible, but next year isn't going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. We bring back a lot in a down league that's taking another big hit next year.
Except Angel is leaving, so...
Are you just screwing around, or do you actually know something?
You'll know which it is by, say, July. :gocho:
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Losing JO hurts on defense, but he was so up and down, it's hard to know exactly what will be lost on the aggregate.
it's incredible that people still think they can say things like this and not look like a dumbass when we have a pinned thread that shows that they are dumbasses.
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Expect Southwell and Angel to continue getting better.
entirely probable that southie continues getting better, but shoots significantly worse.
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Expect Southwell and Angel to continue getting better.
entirely probable that southie continues getting better, but shoots significantly worse.
Then what will he get better at? Rebounding? Because he isn't going to ever be an elite ballhandler or anything.
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Then what will he get better at? Rebounding? Because he isn't going to ever be an elite ballhandler or anything.
he can get a little better at everything, including shooting. my point is that his shooting % is quite a bit more likely to go down than up (even if he becomes a better shooter).
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Are you just screwing around, or do you actually know something?
it's a rumor that was posted on gpc, and probably is also being tossed around among people that prefer to discuss kstate bball irl.
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Then what will he get better at? Rebounding? Because he isn't going to ever be an elite ballhandler or anything.
he can get a little better at everything, including shooting. my point is that his shooting % is quite a bit more likely to go down than up (even if he becomes a better shooter).
OK.
I think he should focus on working to be able to create his own shot more regularly. Would be a boss on the offensive end then.
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Are you just screwing around, or do you actually know something?
it's a rumor that was posted on gpc, and probably is also being tossed around among people that prefer to discuss kstate bball irl.
Didn't know about the gpc rumor. Thanks.
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I think he should focus on working to be able to create his own shot more regularly. Would be a boss on the offensive end then.
i think he can get his own shot adequately. more than sufficiently if art is here to assist him. he needs to be a better defender. with his length and mobility, he should be much better than he is.
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#bid
sorry if Luked
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
If Angel leaves, Weber, Currie, and Schultz will be looking for jobs sooner rather than later.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
be a fvcking fair weather fan and don't renew!
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How are we going to score? Nobody who is on the roster can come close to replacing McGruder and we already struggled mightily scoring this season
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We'd be able to answer questions about what we'll do after losing a few players, but this is the first time a team has ever had players not return following their senior season, so we really just have no idea what will happen. Maybe the Earth will explode?
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
be a fvcking fair weather fan and don't renew!
I'd say 'Ol Bones is being a proactive fan by not renewing, that's far from fair weather, his action along with other concerned Cat Fans will turn the tide and hopefully end Bruces "run" one year earlier than expected.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
be a fvcking fair weather fan and don't renew!
I'd say 'Ol Bones is being a proactive fan by not renewing, that's far from fair weather, his action along with other concerned Cat Fans will turn the tide and hopefully end Bruces "run" one year earlier than expected.
yeah, similarly concerned cat fans got gottlieb hired last time around, huh?
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
be a fvcking fair weather fan and don't renew!
I'd say 'Ol Bones is being a proactive fan by not renewing, that's far from fair weather, his action along with other concerned Cat Fans will turn the tide and hopefully end Bruces "run" one year earlier than expected.
yeah, similarly concerned cat fans got gottlieb hired last time around, huh?
do you think oscar will be successful here?
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Honestly, who wouldn't look forward to next season.
Message Board givens:
Ragging on oscar
Message Board possibilities:
We COULD be pretty decent.
We COULD really blow
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
I think the athletic department's official stance is that you should renew, followed by writing an unhappy letter to Currie.
He will then send you an autographed photo of him using it as toilet paper while laughing with your money in hand.
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If Angel leaves, our best PG before 2nd semester is Orris. And then in the 2nd semester our best option would be a freshman who hasn't got to practice with the team yet.
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If Angel leaves, our best PG before 2nd semester is Orris. And then in the 2nd semester our best option would be a freshman who hasn't got to practice with the team yet.
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I think Nino will be good! :D
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I think Will is a better pg than Orris.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
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Are you just screwing around, or do you actually know something?
it's a rumor that was posted on gpc, and probably is also being tossed around among people that prefer to discuss kstate bball irl.
Didn't know about the gpc rumor. Thanks.
Does the rumor elaborate on why he would want to transfer out? He's sitting pretty for a first team all-conference/NCAA tourney season next year at K-State. Obviously he'd be a major commodity on the transfer market, but it's not as if he's returning to some rebuilding project next year. Has to be bullshit. He's not leaving Shane, Gip and Coach Chet to fend for themselves.
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Well at this point he has to be starting to see the writing on the wall. He split a conference title and the fans still are not really that enthused. He probably is starting to get concerned about getting fired after year 3.
We all know that Currie wouldn't axe him that quickly but oscar is a worrier and not a great long term thinker when it comes to depth charts and new coaching gigs.
This is a guy that actually thought he was going to the College of Charleston and that Jacob Pullen wasn't good enough for Illinois.
I wouldn't be shocked if he took another gig if offered..... but who would be dumb enough to offer besides John Currie. :blindfold:
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He's not worried about getting fired. Have you heard him talk about his career at Illinois? He honestly believes that was the best span of basketball in Illinois' history.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
I think the athletic department's official stance is that you should renew, followed by writing an unhappy letter to Currie.
He will then send you an autographed photo of him using it as toilet paper while laughing with your money in hand.
We will renew, I suppose, but not without some apprehension.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
I think the athletic department's official stance is that you should renew, followed by writing an unhappy letter to Currie.
He will then send you an autographed photo of him using it as toilet paper while laughing with your money in hand.
We will renew, I suppose, but not without some apprehension.
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I didn't renew this year and have zero regrets.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
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Ugh. If Angel leaves my level of interest is going to go from strained to through the floor down into the aesthenosphere where it burns up on contact.
Along these same lines, Mrs. Bones and I have been discussing season tickets for next year. She would like to renew. I, on the other hand, am not so sure, and haven't been since Currie hired oscar. Up until the B12 tourney championship game, and now the LaSalle game, I was leaning toward renewal. Now I'm not so sure. Input, guys?
I think the athletic department's official stance is that you should renew, followed by writing an unhappy letter to Currie.
He will then send you an autographed photo of him using it as toilet paper while laughing with your money in hand.
We will renew, I suppose, but not without some apprehension.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
I didn't renew this year and have zero regrets.
This. No reason to renew. Singles to the games you want to go to, most of the time in better locations, are very easy to get and much cheaper.
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i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
no.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
As oscar likes to point out, DJamer has never been a full-time basketball guy until coming to K-State so who knows :dunno:
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I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
He was 2nd in OBoarding, which means he may be able to help get the ball to players who can score (assuming he doesn't get better himself).
Question: Does Southwell move to the wing and we play Gipson and DJamer at the same time? Or do we move Southwell to the wing and start Nino at the four?
The wing situation concerns me, which is ironic, because oscar was big on wings at Illinois.
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i really hope southie stays at the 4. unless we have a big on the team next year that we don't currently know about, i don't see anyway that playing two bigs would be preferable to playing 4 out.
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What if every single player on the roster as well as the recruits made shane-like progress? Wait, what if they made JO-like regression?
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i really hope southie stays at the 4. unless we have a big on the team next year that we don't currently know about, i don't see anyway that playing two bigs would be preferable to playing 4 out.
Agreed.
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Wait, what if they made JO-like regression?
regression? perhaps you mean what if they play great, but don't get to play much? that seems unlikely.
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i really hope southie stays at the 4. unless we have a big on the team next year that we don't currently know about, i don't see anyway that playing two bigs would be preferable to playing 4 out.
This. Shane would not be nearly the offensive matchup problem he is for other teams if he moves to the wing. Also, our bigs are terrible, so why would we want more than one of them out there at the same time? I'm confident that a combo of Omari/Westicles would be more effective than having any of our true post players on the court at the same time, even if Shane was able to sustain his production on the wing.
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Shane kind of sucked at guarding good 4s this year though.
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Shane kind of sucked at guarding good 4s this year though.
So did our big men early in the year, so... :dunno:
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So did our big men early in the year, so... :dunno:
Eh, yeah. Good point. I have just as much faith in him become a better defender as I do DJamer or Diaz. Maybe more confidence than Nino.
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Wait, what if they made JO-like regression?
regression? perhaps you mean what if they play great, but don't get to play much? that seems unlikely.
yes. Maybe I should have asked what if everyone develops a skill set that oscar doesn't know how to use so he sits everyone for every game?
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Wait, what if they made JO-like regression?
regression? perhaps you mean what if they play great, but don't get to play much? that seems unlikely.
yes. Maybe I should have asked what if everyone develops a skill set that oscar doesn't know how to use so he sits everyone for every game?
He'd probably get fired for that #bestcasescenario
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
i see potential. the eyes don't lie.
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
i see potential. the eyes don't lie.
I think eyes lie a lot. In fact they might be the liariest of the senses.
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More important question: who replaces Tay in tunnel dancing?? What about JO's beat-keeping? :ohno:
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I have faith in Shane and Angel. Next year will still be fun because of those two.
Gip is a good scorer and rebounder, though defense is a concern.
Other guys will have to improve, but next year's team should be fine and should be a tournament team.
gippy can score, williams can score, southie can score, obviously art can score. diaz and omoney can maybe score, it's hard to know. spradling can hit open shots (at least every other year).
at any rate, i don't think scoring is going to be a huge worry. defense and rebounding are definitely more worrisome.
i would put DJamer down as a player who can also maybe score.
I unpinned it, but below are the season per 100 possession numbers. We'll see on DJamer. It would take Shane-like improvement. Gip showed enough to see he was a decent scorer as a freshman. DJamer was our least efficient scorer this season.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg780656#msg780656
i see potential. the eyes don't lie.
I think eyes lie a lot. In fact they might be the liariest of the senses.
very possible. But smell/taste is pretty liary. There are always studies about wine experts being idiots in double-blind taste tests and people thinking really good cheeses smell like vomit. But that all relies on sight to mitigate, so maybe sight truly is lying its ass off all the time.
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I have very large concerns about our basketball future as we move into the Post Tunnel Dance Era. We really need strong minutes from two of these three people DJamer, Diaz, Fincher. If two of them step up we could compete for the big 12. If one steps up we still make the NCAA tournament. If we get nothing we lose about every other game in conference. For reference I am talking 5 points 6 rebounds per game minimum.
I would expect that Angel will average 36 minutes a game at point.
Will will average 30 minutes,
Omari 26 minutes (10 for Will and 16 for Shane at SG),
Shane 34 minutes 16 at PF,
Nino 20 minutes and
Gipson and DJamer 20 minutes each at 5.
Starting Lineup
PG Angel JR. Orris So. Thomas Fr. Probable Redshirt
G Will Sr. Omari Sr. Foster Fr.
G Shane Sr. Westicles Fr.
PF Nino Jr. Fincher Fr.
C Gipson Jr. DJamer So. , Diaz Jr.
Chief Tunnel Dancer
Starting Reserve
Shane :horrorsurprise: Angel :dubious:
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I am so pissed about Orris.
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Surely during the off season someone will be able to teach Diaz how to score, right?
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I have very large concerns about our basketball future as we move into the Post Tunnel Dance Era. We really need strong minutes from two of these three people DJamer, Diaz, Fincher. If two of them step up we could compete for the big 12. If one steps up we still make the NCAA tournament. If we get nothing we lose about every other game in conference. For reference I am talking 5 points 6 rebounds per game minimum.
I would expect that Angel will average 36 minutes a game at point.
Will will average 30 minutes,
Omari 26 minutes (10 for Will and 16 for Shane at SG),
Shane 34 minutes 16 at PF,
Nino 20 minutes and
Gipson and DJamer 20 minutes each at 5.
Starting Lineup
PG Angel JR. Orris So. Thomas Fr. Probable Redshirt
G Will Sr. Omari Sr. Foster Fr.
G Shane Sr. Westicles Fr.
PF Nino Jr. Fincher Fr.
C Gipson Jr. DJamer So. , Diaz Jr.
Chief Tunnel Dancer
Starting Reserve
Shane :horrorsurprise: Angel :dubious:
That starting 5 is palatable. That bench has the potential to be the worst in the conference.
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I am so pissed about Orris.
That PG duo of Rodriguez/Gray would've been something else.
and yes I like to beat dead horses when it pertains to Weber's recruiting
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I have very large concerns about our basketball future as we move into the Post Tunnel Dance Era. We really need strong minutes from two of these three people DJamer, Diaz, Fincher. If two of them step up we could compete for the big 12. If one steps up we still make the NCAA tournament. If we get nothing we lose about every other game in conference. For reference I am talking 5 points 6 rebounds per game minimum.
I would expect that Angel will average 36 minutes a game at point.
Will will average 30 minutes,
Omari 26 minutes (10 for Will and 16 for Shane at SG),
Shane 34 minutes 16 at PF,
Nino 20 minutes and
Gipson and DJamer 20 minutes each at 5.
Starting Lineup
PG Angel JR. Orris So. Thomas Fr. Probable Redshirt
G Will Sr. Omari Sr. Foster Fr.
G Shane Sr. Westicles Fr.
PF Nino Jr. Fincher Fr.
C Gipson Jr. DJamer So. , Diaz Jr.
Chief Tunnel Dancer
Starting Reserve
Shane :horrorsurprise: Angel :dubious:
That starting 5 is palatable. That bench has the potential to be the worst in the conference.
I think we sneak in as a double digit seed next year. We'll win a game or two we shouldn't...
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That starting 5 is palatable. That bench has the potential to be the worst in the conference.
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I think we sneak in as a double digit seed next year. We'll win a game or two we shouldn't...
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Yeah our best feature this year was having a wide variety of tools and the capability to play 9 players that could start and all could be pretty decent. We are going to be more victimized by foul trouble, fatigue, and defensively we are likely going to be in the bottom half of the conference in most stats: Rebounds, Steals, FG% defense, and Blocked Shots.
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Tight lineup. Looks 5 starters and two legit reserves (EMAPE and DJamer). Hoping that Foster can step in soon because I have little faith in Orris.
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DJamer and emape aren't legit
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DJamer and emape aren't legit
I guess just stating that they will get the most minutes of the reserves would have been more accurate.
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Omari is going to be better than Will next year.
Not saying he is going to start, just he will be better.
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Omari is going to be better than Will next year.
Not saying he is going to start, just he will be better.
That's not saying much.
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They play different positions though. Also completely opposite style of play. So I'm not sure why you are comparing him to will.
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I don't see how people think DJamer is bad....my God, DJamer seemed to be the only one of our bigs that had a pulse. THe guy is a high energy guy and saved our ass off the bench a couple of times this year. He actually knows that when you post up, the 1st thing you have to do is catch the ball(unlike Gip and JO) then he has shone the ability to make a move toward the basket in an unawkward way(unlike Gip and JO). Did he not play against Lasalle? Why? the offense and our bigs were sucking donkey butt, bring is a high energy guy to jumpstart things (oh, I forgot, we are talking about Weber here)...............
Anyways, the thing that is going to kill this team next year is not having a backup for Angel. Do we expect Angel to play 40 minutes/game, every game? Spradling as a backup point? :barf: :jerk: :sdeek: :flush: :chainsaw: :facepalm: :runaway:
I didn't include Diaz in the above discussion about our bigs, cause quite frankly, I forgot he was still on the team? I think he has marginal talent, but I think that dude is dumber than our HC, and can't figure out how to play offense or defense (I guess that just covers the whole game of basketball). So, unless he gets a brain transfusion next year, I will count him out!!!!!!
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Wut
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I'm not sure what our record will be right now, but if we are a bubble team or a 10/11 seed, i am gonna be pissed.
Shane is the one who improved the most this year. But hey Nino was worthless as a frosh and he ended up being in our 8 man rotation as a soph. Never thought that last summer.
We are gonna need Gip to take the next step up next year and have at least one other player improve enough to be a valuable player if we are using an 8 man rotation next year
And i still think Foster is gonna come in and be a contributor by the time Christmas rolls around.
Its a long ways til November 2013. No one thought 27-7 entering Tourney back on Nov 12'. Just like no one thought a 2 seed would happen back on Nov 2009. Be projected for 5th/6th in the conference and do much better than that..... it's the Kstate way, is it not?
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7-11 in Big XII games. Fail to make the NIT.
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Can oscar take the playbook from the coach at VMI? Having the team averaging 99 points a game while giving up 98 points a game would make a losing season at least more entertaining.
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I have very large concerns about our basketball future as we move into the Post Tunnel Dance Era. We really need strong minutes from two of these three people DJamer, Diaz, Fincher. If two of them step up we could compete for the big 12. If one steps up we still make the NCAA tournament. If we get nothing we lose about every other game in conference. For reference I am talking 5 points 6 rebounds per game minimum.
I would expect that Angel will average 36 minutes a game at point.
Will will average 30 minutes,
Omari 26 minutes (10 for Will and 16 for Shane at SG),
Shane 34 minutes 16 at PF,
Nino 20 minutes and
Gipson and DJamer 20 minutes each at 5.
Starting Lineup
PG Angel JR. Orris So. Thomas Fr. Probable Redshirt
G Will Sr. Omari Sr. Foster Fr.
G Shane Sr. Westicles Fr.
PF Nino Jr. Fincher Fr.
C Gipson Jr. DJamer So. , Diaz Jr.
Chief Tunnel Dancer
Starting Reserve
Shane :horrorsurprise: Angel :dubious:
Well my lineup is already trash!!!! :curse:
Freshmen at point, no true big, and missing our best all around guard Rodney?
crap.
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