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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: gatoveintisiete on February 18, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
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No pressure here, not on the record, no threat of being bumped unless this team goes to final 4 or loses in first round.
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JMHO YOU GUYS
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1. 2013
2. who cares
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JMHO YOU GUYS
dumbass
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Give me your top two defenses for toughness and overall harassment, not necessarily statistical
( looking at you Fan )
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1.) 09-10
2.) 12-13
3.) Every Other Team
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1.) 09-10
2.) 12-13
3.) Every Other Team
Yeah, those two teams are far better than the others. Jake and Curt's senior year is a distant third.
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
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10, 11, 13, 12, 7, 8, 9.
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10, 11, 13, 12, 7, 8, 9.
try again
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
How many NBA players on that roster?
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I like '13 defense better than the rest, Angel probably is the difference, just a complete pain in the ass for other teams. Also like stopping dribble drives.
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How many NBA players on that roster?
oh, sorry. 8, 7, 6, 5, 4.
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
How many NBA players on that roster?
13 Angel - Denis lets say equal
Will - Jake advantage 10
Rod - Dom advantage 13
Shane -Curt people gonna laugh advantage 13
JO - Luis equal since neither plays much
Gip - Jamar slight edge to 10?
I don't think anybodys wiping the floor in this game, hope I got players right for '10
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
How many NBA players on that roster?
13 Angel - Denis lets say equal
Will - Jake advantage 10
Rod - Dom advantage 13
Shane -Curt people gonna laugh advantage 13
JO - Luis equal since neither plays much
Gip - Jamar slight edge to 10?
I don't think anybodys wiping the floor in this game, hope I got players right for '10
wrong, 13 is wiping the flooring in that game
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Lol at JO and Luis being equal. And I loved Lou.
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How many NBA players on that roster?
oh, sorry. 8, 7, 6, 5, 4.
:thumbsup:
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07-08 severely underrated by everyone.
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07-08 severely underrated by everyone.
gotta have a pg.
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does 13 carve up 9,10,11 like Butler and Wiscy did?
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probs this. :dunno:
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This team is the deepest.
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7-8 struck me as a throw talent on the floor and hope squad, horribly inconsistent, great talent, average team.
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07-08 severely underrated by everyone.
nope
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
How many NBA players on that roster?
13 Angel - Denis lets say equal
Will - Jake advantage 10
Rod - Dom advantage 13
Shane -Curt people gonna laugh advantage 13
JO - Luis equal since neither plays much
Gip - Jamar slight edge to 10?
I don't think anybodys wiping the floor in this game, hope I got players right for '10
wrong, 13 is wiping the flooring in that game
kimcarnes proving to be the dumbass per usual...09-10 would beat this team by double digits without even breaking a sweat (love Shane and Angel but Denis and Jake and the transition D into O would run these guys out of the gym)
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1. 09-10
2. 12-13
3. 10-11
4. 07-08
5. 11-12
6. 06-07
7. 08-09
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1. 09-10
2. 10-11
3. 07-08
4. 11-12
5. 12-13
6. 08-09
7. 06-07
This is my extremely biased opinion.
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7-8 struck me as a throw talent on the floor and hope squad, horribly inconsistent, great talent, average team.
one of our best players/senior blew his knee right before the season.
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Nailed it. :cheers:
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12-13 would wipe the rough ridin' floor with 09-10
really? 09-10 far more talented imo
How many NBA players on that roster?
13 Angel - Denis lets say equal
Will - Jake advantage 10
Rod - Dom advantage 13
Shane -Curt people gonna laugh advantage 13
JO - Luis equal since neither plays much
Gip - Jamar slight edge to 10?
I don't think anybodys wiping the floor in this game, hope I got players right for '10
oscar-Frank advantage 13
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according to kenpom (rank):
10 (7)
08 (17)
12 (25)
11 (30)
13 (34)
09 (44)
07 (50)
best offense (adjO)
08 (117.1)
10 (116.6)
13 (111.2)
11 (111.1)
07 (110.2)
09 (109.2)
12 (109.0)
best defense (adjD):
10 (88.9)
08 (90.2)
12 (91.1)
07 (91.1)
11 (92.7)
13 (92.8)
09 (93.0)
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also, to re-visit a topic from an old thread:
Record vs higher rated teams:
08: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 1,5,9,16)
09: 2-8 (beat 6,23, lost to 6,10,10,13,23,28,33,34)
10: 2-3 (beat 6,6, lost to 2,2,2)
11: 4-5 (beat 3,5,20,29, lost to 2,3,7,16,27)
12: 3-5 (beat 10,10,17, lost to 4,4,6,17,17)
13: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 5,6,11,11)
Record vs lower rated teams:
08: 18-8 (lost to 18,28,34,41,42,44,78,94)
09: 19-4 (lost to 52,64,91,156)
10: 26-5 (lost to 12,19,40,51,71)
11: 18-6 (lost to 44,51,56,56,56,74)
12: 19-6 (lost to 27,27,31,53,108,108)
13: 18-1 (lost to 36)
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This team is the deepest.
We go deep and we don't get no sleep cause we be up all night
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according to kenpom (rank):
10 (7)
08 (17)
12 (25)
11 (30)
13 (34)
09 (44)
07 (50)
best offense (adjO)
08 (117.1)
10 (116.6)
13 (111.2)
11 (111.1)
07 (110.2)
09 (109.2)
12 (109.0)
best defense (adjD):
10 (88.9)
08 (90.2)
12 (91.1)
07 (91.1)
11 (92.7)
13 (92.8)
09 (93.0)
Like I was saying...
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10, 11, 13, 12, 7, 8, 9.
try again
No crap, KC. SYS really looking like a dumbass w/ that post.
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also, to re-visit a topic from an old thread:
Record vs higher rated teams:
08: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 1,5,9,16)
09: 2-8 (beat 6,23, lost to 6,10,10,13,23,28,33,34)
10: 2-3 (beat 6,6, lost to 2,2,2)
11: 4-5 (beat 3,5,20,29, lost to 2,3,7,16,27)
12: 3-5 (beat 10,10,17, lost to 4,4,6,17,17)
13: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 5,6,11,11)
Record vs lower rated teams:
08: 18-8 (lost to 18,28,34,41,42,44,78,94)
09: 19-4 (lost to 52,64,91,156)
10: 26-5 (lost to 12,19,40,51,71)
11: 18-6 (lost to 44,51,56,56,56,74)
12: 19-6 (lost to 27,27,31,53,108,108)
13: 18-1 (lost to 36)
Very interesting, and kind of sad at the same time, how common is it in cbb for team to play to ratings like 13 does?
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09-10 is the best and it isn't even close, imo.
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also, to re-visit a topic from an old thread:
Record vs higher rated teams:
08: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 1,5,9,16)
09: 2-8 (beat 6,23, lost to 6,10,10,13,23,28,33,34)
10: 2-3 (beat 6,6, lost to 2,2,2)
11: 4-5 (beat 3,5,20,29, lost to 2,3,7,16,27)
12: 3-5 (beat 10,10,17, lost to 4,4,6,17,17)
13: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 5,6,11,11)
Record vs lower rated teams:
08: 18-8 (lost to 18,28,34,41,42,44,78,94)
09: 19-4 (lost to 52,64,91,156)
10: 26-5 (lost to 12,19,40,51,71)
11: 18-6 (lost to 44,51,56,56,56,74)
12: 19-6 (lost to 27,27,31,53,108,108)
13: 18-1 (lost to 36)
Very interesting, and kind of sad at the same time, how common is it in cbb for team to play to ratings like 13 does?
Well one way to answer your question would be to say that it is very hard to not get upset through the course of a season, so it's not very common to go 18-1 against lesser competition.
Another way would be to suggest that we are rated a little low in kenpom this year.
My opinion is that we have played nobody between #46 and #91 all year, which is where a lot of upsets have occurred in previous seasons (see 2011). If we played, say, 5 teams between #46 and #91, we might have picked up a few more losses.
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13 Angel - Denis lets say equal
Will - Jake advantage 10
Rod - Dom advantage 13
Shane -Curt people gonna laugh advantage 13
JO - Luis equal since neither plays much
Gip - Jamar slight edge to 10?
I don't think anybodys wiping the floor in this game, hope I got players right for '10
I'd agree on Angel vs. Denis. Jake is like a plus infinity over Will (who is kind of like this team's Colon). It's not Rod vs. Dom, but Rod vs. Dom and freshman Rod. That gives the edge to 10. Shane vs. Curt. I'm not laughing, but I'm not buying either. Edge 10. JO edge over Luis, big when JO is allowed to play.
Bench, freshman irving < than senior Irving. JO was a slight factor as a freshman against true bigs. Other freshmen were non factors.
Coaching, Martin > Weber. This was Frank's junkyard masterpiece, which was a thing of beauty when clicking (the Baylor and Okie State games in the Dr. Pepper).
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according to kenpom...
that surprised me. i'd rank 8 higher if i did it over again.
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according to kenpom...
that surprised me. i'd rank 8 higher if i did it over again.
Such a weird team. Extremely low NCAA seed (kind of a sham if you ask me), great kenpom numbers. Great wins, bad losses.
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13's transition D vs Denis?
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
I think '11 wins 6 games out of 10.
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2008 would murder 13. Heck, 2011 would beat 13 soundly.
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Can you guys imagine Gip and Southwell guarding Beas and BW? :lol:
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to. I wouldn't count on anything consistent from 2008. On the other hand 2011 lost to a pud Colorado losery team 3 times so there's that.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to. I wouldn't count on anything consistent from 2008. On the other hand 2011 lost to a pud Colorado losery team 3 times so there's that.
don't miss those kind of losses
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
True. They DIDN'T murder Texas Tech or Nebraska would be a more accurate way of saying it.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
True. They DIDN'T murder Texas Tech or Nebraska would be a more accurate way of saying it.
True. 2010 didn't beat ISU at home (a team far worse than both 2008 Texas Tech or Nebraska). You can do this all day.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
World beater TCU
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1. National championship
2. Final Four (regional championship)
3. Elite eight & conference championship
4. Total wins
5. Nothing else matters
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conference champ > Elite Eight for sure. Even when the league is awful like this year.
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Is everybody on the roster healthy and eligible? Do I have Hoskins and Sutton on 08 or do I have to start Andre Gilbert? Is Walker on 07? can I play Kelly and Kent together on the 09 team? The 08 roster at full capacity is probably the #1 team in the nation this season and without a doubt the best group of talent ever assembled at K-State. If you said I had to enter a tournament with one of the rosters, I'm picking 08 without discussion. If were ranking on how their season's actually went, probably a different story.
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Is everybody on the roster healthy and eligible? Do I have Hoskins and Sutton on 08 or do I have to start Andre Gilbert? Is Walker on 07? can I play Kelly and Kent together on the 09 team? The 08 roster at full capacity is probably the #1 team in the nation this season and without a doubt the best group of talent ever assembled at K-State. If you said I had to enter a tournament with one of the rosters, I'm picking 08 without discussion. If were ranking on how their season's actually went, probably a different story.
disagree. 10 has much better guards. Sr. Denis and Jr. Jake >>>> Sr. Clent and Blake and Fr. Jake
Jr. Sutton marches up well defensively with Walker.
Beasely would have gotten his against Soph. Jamar.
Hoskins would have had significant issues against Jr. Curt.
It would be an amazing game to watch, but in the end the back court for '10 out skills the back court from '08 more than the front court from '08 outskills the front court from '10. Id say '10 wins 7/10 times. '08 is OJ Mayo away from being the best team ever at K-State hands down.
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Is everybody on the roster healthy and eligible? Do I have Hoskins and Sutton on 08 or do I have to start Andre Gilbert? Is Walker on 07? can I play Kelly and Kent together on the 09 team? The 08 roster at full capacity is probably the #1 team in the nation this season and without a doubt the best group of talent ever assembled at K-State. If you said I had to enter a tournament with one of the rosters, I'm picking 08 without discussion. If were ranking on how their season's actually went, probably a different story.
disagree. 10 has much better guards. Sr. Denis and Jr. Jake >>>> Sr. Clent and Blake and Fr. Jake
Jr. Sutton marches up well defensively with Walker.
Beasely would have gotten his against Soph. Jamar.
Hoskins would have had significant issues against Jr. Curt.
It would be an amazing game to watch, but in the end the back court for '10 out skills the back court from '08 more than the front court from '08 outskills the front court from '10. Id say '10 wins 7/10 times. '08 is OJ Mayo away from being the best team ever at K-State hands down.
Denis Clemente was the best guard on that 08 team. He couldn't play due to transfer rules, but he was on that team.
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Is everybody on the roster healthy and eligible? Do I have Hoskins and Sutton on 08 or do I have to start Andre Gilbert? Is Walker on 07? can I play Kelly and Kent together on the 09 team? The 08 roster at full capacity is probably the #1 team in the nation this season and without a doubt the best group of talent ever assembled at K-State. If you said I had to enter a tournament with one of the rosters, I'm picking 08 without discussion. If were ranking on how their season's actually went, probably a different story.
disagree. 10 has much better guards. Sr. Denis and Jr. Jake >>>> Sr. Clent and Blake and Fr. Jake
Jr. Sutton marches up well defensively with Walker.
Beasely would have gotten his against Soph. Jamar.
Hoskins would have had significant issues against Jr. Curt.
It would be an amazing game to watch, but in the end the back court for '10 out skills the back court from '08 more than the front court from '08 outskills the front court from '10. Id say '10 wins 7/10 times. '08 is OJ Mayo away from being the best team ever at K-State hands down.
Denis Clemente was the best guard on that 08 team. He couldn't play due to transfer rules, but he was on that team.
Pfffft and 13 is Smart and withey away from being undefeated
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Can you guys imagine Gip and Southwell guarding Beas and BW? :lol:
Sophomore Angel vs. Freshman Jake
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Can you guys imagine Gip and Southwell guarding Beas and BW? :lol:
Sophomore Angel vs. Freshman Jake
:love:
Indeed, real life friend Jakesie. Indeed.
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Need to compare conference only adjO and adjD; we were so bad early in this year. Also it depends at what point in time you are comparing teams in different years. In 10 we really took it to another level late in the year, i.e., around conference tourney time. This year we have been so good for the bulk of the big 12 season. If we can take it to another level their will be very little question 10 & 13 are our best teams of recent history. 2008 team struggle at the end of year and was a big disappointment.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
2011 was decided in the last minute
2008 lost by 17 in Omaha
The road argument isn't fair yet because our regular season is still in progress.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
08 Cats lost by 17 to Wisc. 11 Cats had a chance to win the game in the final minute. I guess my definition of clowing is different that urs.
2013 season isnt done yet, but as of now best road win is at OU, but this years team also didnt lose 3 road games to teams in bottom half of league who failed to make Ncaa tourney (08 did)
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2008 obviously had the best upside. I'd say it was even higher than 2010's because '08 beat the future NC at home, and 2010 couldn't beat KU at home that year. But 2010 was much better suit to make a deep tourney run because they could consistently play like a good/great team.
I don't think we can rank the 2013 team yet. If we end up winning the league then I don't know how you could argue against calling them the 2nd best team since 2005, even though their upside isn't that great.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
08 Cats lost by 17 to Wisc. 11 Cats had a chance to win the game in the final minute. I guess my definition of clowing is different that urs.
2013 season isnt done yet, but as of now best road win is at OU, but this years team also didnt lose 3 road games to teams in bottom half of league who failed to make Ncaa tourney (08 did)
Thanks for repeating everything that I said in the post right before this one.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to.
oh they absolutely could have. they murdered the friggin national champions for goodness sake.
2011 team also murdered a 1 seed KU team. 2008 team was good enough to play with anyone, but outside of the game at OU they were a bad team on the road and got clowned by 3 seed Wisc on nuetral court. IMO, that 08 is behind the 10,13, 11 teams but ahead of the rest
11 got clowned by a 4 seed wisconsin team (4 seeds are worse than 3 seeds), and who has 13 beat on the road outside of OU?
2011 was decided in the last minute
2008 lost by 17 in Omaha
The road argument isn't fair yet because our regular season is still in progress.
well then, no comparison to 2013 is fair. Which I think is fair.
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Need to compare conference only adjO and adjD; we were so bad early in this year. Also it depends at what point in time you are comparing teams in different years. In 10 we really took it to another level late in the year, i.e., around conference tourney time. This year we have been so good for the bulk of the big 12 season. If we can take it to another level their will be very little question 10 & 13 are our best teams of recent history. 2008 team struggle at the end of year and was a big disappointment.
Like 10, 13 has the chance to get a favorable seed and therefore a great chance at the 2nd weekend. I loved all those other teams, but too many times we lost stupid games that costs us seed lines that made Sweet 16s more difficult, many of them at home. I loved Frank's ability to consistently be good against really good teams, but it was annoying to lose nearly every year to an NIT quality team at home.
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Need to compare conference only adjO and adjD; we were so bad early in this year. Also it depends at what point in time you are comparing teams in different years. In 10 we really took it to another level late in the year, i.e., around conference tourney time. This year we have been so good for the bulk of the big 12 season. If we can take it to another level their will be very little question 10 & 13 are our best teams of recent history. 2008 team struggle at the end of year and was a big disappointment.
Like 10, 13 has the chance to get a favorable seed and therefore a great chance at the 2nd weekend. I loved all those other teams, but too many times we lost stupid games that costs us seed lines that made Sweet 16s more difficult, many of them at home. I loved Frank's ability to consistently be good against really good teams, but it was annoying to lose to lose nearly every year to an NIT quality team at home.
Yes to all this. Avoiding the upset has been a huge blow to mocat's #bid mindset
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Updated:
Record vs higher rated teams:
08: 2-4 (beat 1,16, lost to 1,5,9,16)
09: 2-8 (beat 6,23, lost to 6,10,10,13,23,28,33,34)
10: 2-3 (beat 6,6, lost to 2,2,2)
11: 4-5 (beat 3,5,20,29, lost to 2,3,7,16,27)
12: 3-5 (beat 10,10,17, lost to 4,4,6,17,17)
13: 2-4 (beat 1,15, lost to 4,8,8,10)
Record vs lower rated teams:
08: 18-8 (lost to 18,28,34,41,42,44,78,94)
09: 19-4 (lost to 52,64,91,156)
10: 26-5 (lost to 12,19,40,51,71)
11: 18-6 (lost to 44,51,56,56,56,74)
12: 19-6 (lost to 27,27,31,53,108,108)
13: 20-1 (lost to 38)
also KSU has matched their highest win total since '88 (excluding '10) already.
KSU only has to finish the regular season 1-2 to guarantee a season with single digit losses (kind of awesome imo)
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Can you imagine if '13 Weber was coaching the '08 team!?!! :love:
Would've been world-beaters.
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yeah, I'd love to see Beasley and Walker running motion offense.
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I think it's been shown that 2008 would murder 2011
2008 couldn't murder Texas Tech or Nebraska or a bunch of other pud teams that it lost to. I wouldn't count on anything consistent from 2008. On the other hand 2011 lost to a pud Colorado losery team 3 times so there's that.
My thinking here is that beas and bw didn't give a crap about playing puds. If we're comparing these teams against one another, I think beas, bw, and co. care enough to hand it to any of these squads. I mean, if they could beat the squawk NC team...they could beat another KSU team. Not saying that's my prediciton...but I'm not comfortable (just yet) saying that 10, 11, 12, or 13 could beat 08.
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I figured the argument was if you put all the teams in a random identical season, who would have the best results. 08 had the biggest upside, for sure. Even 2010 couldn't beat KU, even with 3 tries.
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I figured the argument was if you put all the teams in a random identical season, who would have the best results. 08 had the biggest upside, for sure. Even 2010 couldn't beat KU, even with 3 tries.
TCU beat KU this year, and we did not.
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Sure, but we're KU's Super Bowl every year. They always play their best against us.
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OK, I'm ready.
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:dunno:
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so I am going to go out on a limb (sarcasm) and say that the last 6 years in EMAW basketball is better than any other 6 year stretch of my life (born of December of 91)
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We can all agree 07 and 09 were terrible. For the other years, I like to assume a full strength team, playing up to its potential. This makes 13 slip a bit, imo. 11 would have no Dillardsgate, and 12 no Dillonsgate. 08 could just embarrass people like crazy though. Remember losing at mizzou right after 84-75, and then later avenging that loss 100-63? 100 points in 40 mins.