Thats MsCougar There is more to Frank than meets the eye. As a parent of one of these players it was more about him and the AD than him and the players. Head Coaching can't always be like the lovely man who is the head coach of the football team. He is an enigma. He is the exception NOT THE RULE! Most Head Coaches in any sport LIE to YOUR FACE and your kids face. I and my son and I have had to learn that. But I will say this, I never had to talk to the AD E-V-E-R until oscar Weber and please remember that Frank Martin suspended my son. Yes hindsight is 20-20 but you may have another basketball head coach in 2 years. You never know. Here is what I do know the alumni at KSU is FANTASTIC and I know that my son is proud of his school and his team and will be an exceptional and loyal alumnus as well regardless of his treatment by Weber and the AD his Senior year. His character does not change because of his treatment by others. He has gotten a great education and has learned more than just academics and has made more than just friends!
JO was suspended, anyone else?
JO was suspended, anyone else?
Pretty much everyone
Is it JOs mom?
To be fair, she bitched about Frank yelling at the wrong players over a mistake last year at the tourney.
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.
That she bitches about coaches a lot?! :dunno: Maybe just trying to #fanningbrag?! Either way, she's a lovely lady.To be fair, she bitched about Frank yelling at the wrong players over a mistake last year at the tourney.
What on earth does this have to do with anything
That she bitches about coaches a lot?! :dunno: Maybe just trying to #fanningbrag?! Either way, she's a lovely lady.To be fair, she bitched about Frank yelling at the wrong players over a mistake last year at the tourney.
What on earth does this have to do with anything
Deal with it, bro! :gocho:That she bitches about coaches a lot?! :dunno: Maybe just trying to #fanningbrag?! Either way, she's a lovely lady.To be fair, she bitched about Frank yelling at the wrong players over a mistake last year at the tourney.
What on earth does this have to do with anything
It was a #fanningbrag. Yeah, you were in Pittsburgh. We get it.
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
#BID with a massive win...
Yes hindsight is 20-20 but you may have another basketball head coach in 2 years.You never know.
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
This isn't a win for anyone except those who said that they're all bad guys. Like me.
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
Yeah, I'd be pretty upset if she got Bill fired.
This isn't a win for anyone except those who said that they're all bad guys. Like me.
Look at you, winning. :thumbs:
well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
Yeah, I'd be pretty upset if she got Bill fired.
2 years ago you wouldn't have been
so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
Thats MsCougar There is more to Frank than meets the eye. As a parent of one of these players it was more about him and the AD than him and the players. Head Coaching can't always be like the lovely man who is the head coach of the football team. He is an enigma. He is the exception NOT THE RULE! Most Head Coaches in any sport LIE to YOUR FACE and your kids face. I and my son and I have had to learn that. But I will say this, I never had to talk to the AD E-V-E-R until oscar Weber and please remember that Frank Martin suspended my son. Yes hindsight is 20-20 but you may have another basketball head coach in 2 years. You never know. Here is what I do know the alumni at KSU is FANTASTIC and I know that my son is proud of his school and his team and will be an exceptional and loyal alumnus as well regardless of his treatment by Weber and the AD his Senior year. His character does not change because of his treatment by others. He has gotten a great education and has learned more than just academics and has made more than just friends!
no i get it.so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
are you really going to make me walk you all the way through this? i mean, you're the law student.
I'm confused....I never saw where this quote came from, but are guys inferring that this is JO's mom? Sounds more like James Watson's mom to me.
no i get it.so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
are you really going to make me walk you all the way through this? i mean, you're the law student.
you liked frank so BOO spradlings
you don't like oscar so bully for JO
I'm confused....I never saw where this quote came from, but are guys inferring that this is JO's mom? Sounds more like James Watson's mom to me.
I'm confused....I never saw where this quote came from, but are guys inferring that this is JO's mom? Sounds more like James Watson's mom to me.
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no i get it.so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
are you really going to make me walk you all the way through this? i mean, you're the law student.
you liked frank so BOO spradlings
you don't like oscar so bully for JO
:thumbsup:I'm confused....I never saw where this quote came from, but are guys inferring that this is JO's mom? Sounds more like James Watson's mom to me.
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One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
confirmed
One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
confirmed
we should use trim's ba miles to fly her to fatty fest and make her tell us more stories. then trim could roast her or whatever.
Number 1: I don't appreciate the insulting tone you're taking with me.no i get it.so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
are you really going to make me walk you all the way through this? i mean, you're the law student.
you liked frank so BOO spradlings
you don't like oscar so bully for JO
that's cute, but no and not even close.
spradlings can screw off because they were partly responsible (in my opinion) for frank being forced out (my opinion). most kstate people probably think frank up and willingly left, but i'm pretty sure that wasn't what happened. i did like frank though and i do wish he was still the coach though so yeah i guess the first part of your assumption was right.
where you miss badly is where you say i don't like oscar so bully for JO. i haven't said anything like that and no one in this thread has either. in reality i couldn't care less. why is that you ask? because i'm going to make the assumption that crap like jo and his mom happens all of the time in major college athletics. so i don't care. just don't care at all. total indifference to it.
now if their whining and moaning somehow actually affects the university in some way, shape or form like the spradlings did then i'll hop off the fence. like if their complaining helps to build a lazy river then i'll say "bully for jo" or if maybe their complaining causes the student union to burn down then i'll lump them in with the spradlings and tell them to go in the back. but again...as of right now i don't care. this is completely different from the gpc stance where they stuck up for will and are now trashing jo. sorry if not analytical enough to tell the difference. maybe that's year 2 or something. dunno.
One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
:lol:One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
Ms. Cougar? Jesus, just send her Fanning's email and be done with it.
Number 1: I don't appreciate the insulting tone you're taking with me.no i get it.so i wonder: is it the parent's involvement that we get upset about or the AD's response to the parent's involvement?well i wonder what gpc has to say about this since they backed will and shannon really well. what? what's that you say? they are all talking crap on her and JO? oh wow. shocking. did not see that coming at all.Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?
while i can't speak for everyone, i would say that for me personally it will depend if JO and his mother help cause a head coach that i want to be at kstate to get fired and the only coach i really want at kstate right now is bill. so i guess if jo and his mom get bill fired then yes i will bitch about it. stay tuned!
are you really going to make me walk you all the way through this? i mean, you're the law student.
you liked frank so BOO spradlings
you don't like oscar so bully for JO
that's cute, but no and not even close.
spradlings can screw off because they were partly responsible (in my opinion) for frank being forced out (my opinion). most kstate people probably think frank up and willingly left, but i'm pretty sure that wasn't what happened. i did like frank though and i do wish he was still the coach though so yeah i guess the first part of your assumption was right.
where you miss badly is where you say i don't like oscar so bully for JO. i haven't said anything like that and no one in this thread has either. in reality i couldn't care less. why is that you ask? because i'm going to make the assumption that crap like jo and his mom happens all of the time in major college athletics. so i don't care. just don't care at all. total indifference to it.
now if their whining and moaning somehow actually affects the university in some way, shape or form like the spradlings did then i'll hop off the fence. like if their complaining helps to build a lazy river then i'll say "bully for jo" or if maybe their complaining causes the student union to burn down then i'll lump them in with the spradlings and tell them to go in the back. but again...as of right now i don't care. this is completely different from the gpc stance where they stuck up for will and are now trashing jo. sorry if not analytical enough to tell the difference. maybe that's year 2 or something. dunno.
Number 2: We're splitting hairs here imo, but you're right, no one is "sticking up" for JO here.
That grammar was awful.
That grammar was awful.
nobody likes a grammar or spelling sysboner
That grammar was awful.
nobody likes a grammar or spelling nazi
That grammar was awful.
nobody likes a grammar or spelling nazi
Nice edit, I liked the original
One thing is for certain, mscougar needs to post here.
I think, if this is true, then there is one huge difference between JO's mom saying something and Will's dad saying something:
Will's dad getting Frank fired was about Will. Will didn't like him. JO's mom is not saying that JO liked Frank, she is saying that the whole team did. It seems weird to me that she would speak up about this now. What's her motivation? The Spradlings' motivation is very clear. They had reason to lie. If Ms. Cougar has a reason to lie, I have no idea what it is.
That grammar was awful.
nobody likes a grammar or spelling nazi
Nice edit, I liked the original
It was too mean. I'm not a mean person.
and i didn't appreciate you trying to dlew the thread and say that what we were doing was exactly the same thing as gpc but the opposite when we weren't. and no we're not splittling hairs. not even close.i think we are splitting hairs. you're right. this isn't the inverse of the GPC response where they defend spradling and trash JO, but it's not that far off. the reason people aren't rushing to JO's defense yet is because this just happened. that's why originally asked the question: "Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?"
Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
Great post.
yes. terrific.Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
Great post.
Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
Great post.
yeah, this gc guy is pretty adorable
Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
Not really sure what is going on in this thread. At first thought JO was suspended, now not thinking that. So confused, oh well
He's more grounded than suspended.
and i didn't appreciate you trying to dlew the thread and say that what we were doing was exactly the same thing as gpc but the opposite when we weren't. and no we're not splittling hairs. not even close.i think we are splitting hairs. you're right. this isn't the inverse of the GPC response where they defend spradling and trash JO, but it's not that far off. the reason people aren't rushing to JO's defense yet is because this just happened. that's why originally asked the question: "Conversely, is goEMAW going to bitch about JO's mom and how JO's a pussy because he can't handle whatever it is he's upset about?"
and let me preface this by saying that I loved Frank and I hated the oscar hire just so we're all clear. Also, i agree that the GPC response to the Sprads/JO complaining is ridiculous and inconsistent.
i don't take issue with JO's mom complaining just like i don't really take issue with Spradling's parents complaining. however, i could definitely understand how people could feel like sprads needed to shut up and play and how jo needs to do the same now. But the players/parents don't determine how the AD responds. Like some one alluded to earlier in this thread, parents probably complain about this crap all the time, and it's the AD's job to say "yeah, i understand. don't worry we're looking out for your son and all of our student athletes, etc." Currie used what is probably a common occurrence as leverage over a coach he hated. Don't we pretty much think that the "players are going to transfer" jazz was just a pretext for Currie hating Frank's guts anyways? This is all on Currie.
I don't think it's fair or consistent to crap on Sprads for being a pussy when he complains about a coach (which Currie just so happened to use as one of his reasons for firing Frank) and not consider JO a pussy when he complains about a coach (which Currie doesn't respond to).
i'm glad we agree that it's different. from where i'm standing, sprads and co helped destroy kstate basketball as i know it and jo is a kind of uncoordinated big man that has problems playing with his back to the basket but is still going to go make six figures playing basketball overseas in a few months after he graduates from college. not splitting hairs for me. to each their own though dlew, to each their own.ah yeah. i guess the thing we disagree about the most is the level of sway the Sprads complaints had. you seem to think that the Currie really took into account the complaints, where i really don't think Currie gave a crap about that. i think it was all personal. but hey, i could be totally wrong.
That grammar was awful.
Nothing like a good ole dlew vs. daris showdown. Great goEMAW moment going on right now.i feel like the grandsonofdaxjones
That grammar was awful.
You gotta save this stuff for when we're trying to clown visiting fans and visiting tucks, imo.
Also pull it out when you get in an argument with a Repub. in the Dunning-Kruger Dome or whatever.
Nothing like a good ole dlew vs. daris showdown. Great goEMAW moment going on right now.i feel like the grandsonofdaxjones
Ok, kind of hard to follow her babel
i'm glad we agree that it's different. from where i'm standing, sprads and co helped destroy kstate basketball as i know it and jo is a kind of uncoordinated big man that has problems playing with his back to the basket but is still going to go make six figures playing basketball overseas in a few months after he graduates from college. not splitting hairs for me. to each their own though dlew, to each their own.ah yeah. i guess the thing we disagree about the most is the level of sway the Sprads complaints had. you seem to think that the Currie really took into account the complaints, where i really don't think Currie gave a crap about that. i think it was all personal. but hey, i could be totally wrong.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
Its entertaining for sure, but I don't really care for parent's going public (to reporters, social media, whatever) with their stuff that should be taken care of with the coach or AD. And Spradling's dad calling and feeding Kellis talking points is MUCH worse than this, but I still don't like either one.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
I don't think their actions are the same. I don't even think they are all that similar.
Its entertaining for sure, but I don't really care for parent's going public (to reporters, social media, whatever) with their stuff that should be taken care of with the coach or AD. And Spradling's dad calling and feeding Kellis talking points is MUCH worse than this, but I still don't like either one.
i think this post gets to the crux of the issue. kids are going to kid, parents are going to parent, and coaches are going to coach. there's nothing anyone can do to change that. and you really can't place blame on any of them for doing what they do, it's just inherent in playing their role . however, how each of these roles are managed is the job of the AD. a competent AD is one who wouldn't let spradling's or JO's parents issues get to the point where they find themselves feeding media outlets their version of the world, or airing dirty laundry on message boards. i mean, it's going to happen to some extent but not to the degree we've seen here.
just an imo.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
I don't think their actions are the same. I don't even think they are all that similar.
Action at issue: Bitching to the AD about the coach.
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
I don't know their intent beyond surmising that they're looking out for their kids. Really skeptical that anyone here would know much more than that.
i've got more juice than minute maid, u digg? :confused:
I agree with dlew that consistency requires that if one thinks Will and dad should be called out, one should also think that JO and mom should be called out. What happens after either of those pairs act is beyond their control.
absurd. intent behind actions as well as consequences after actions should absolutely be taken into account when judging actions.
I don't know their intent beyond surmising that they're looking out for their kids. Really skeptical that anyone here would know much more than that.
team sprads was looking out for their kid and wanted a coach gone so that their kid would stay at kstate and not transfer. we know this because when frank left, will decided to stay. staying at kstate without frank was their first choice and transferring somewhere else if frank stayed was the second one. yes they wanted frank gone. team jo is looking out for their kid for a different reason. jo is graduating. intent can't be the same between the two groups. impossible.
also what happens after an action is pretty freaking important. like if i'm at the store and pete drives his car drunk into my house and then passes out, i'm kind of upset at pete. but if he drives his car drunk into my house and then passes out and some oil leaks and the car starts on fire and the house burns down with my entire family in it then i'm more than kind of upset.
spradspete got drunk on purpose and ran the car into my house on purpose and then burned it and got off free with no jail time or anything and jopete just got drunk and then parked the car in my driveway and walked away. who cares.
i think another point here is that spradling chose to play for Frank, while JO pretty much got stuck with oscar
I don't think it's fair or consistent to crap on Sprads for being a pussy when he complains about a coach (which Currie just so happened to use as one of his reasons for firing Frank) and not consider JO a pussy when he complains about a coach (which Currie doesn't respond to).
WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
Didn't the Spadlings spread the rumor that JO told Willie Cauley to not come here because of Frank?
Didn't the Spadlings spread the rumor that JO told Willie Cauley to not come here because of Frank?
I don't know, but I'm 100% willing to accept that as fact.
it was a joint effort. :embarrassed:WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
it doesn't get that great. i derailed it and then ruined it. much apologies.
WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
it doesn't get that great. i derailed it and then ruined it. much apologies.
Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.Listen, Daris and I were both painting with broad strokes. He opined about the GPC talking points and I opined about the gE talking points. Take it easy.
Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.Listen, Daris and I were both painting with broad strokes. He opined about the GPC talking points and I opined about the gE talking points. Take it easy.
Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.Listen, Daris and I were both painting with broad strokes. He opined about the GPC talking points and I opined about the gE talking points. Take it easy.
Well, i'm sorry for doing it in other threads but i don't think i'm sorry for doing it in this thread.Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.Listen, Daris and I were both painting with broad strokes. He opined about the GPC talking points and I opined about the gE talking points. Take it easy.
Did I say something mean? I'm just pointing out that you are fond of using this device when Will comes up and it pisses me off, seemed like a good time to bring it up especially when it was evoked in the context of Anthony Jordan Luis Henriquez Roberts.
Love the hit and run bitch move.WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
it doesn't get that great. i derailed it and then ruined it. much apologies.
You didn't.
I'm stunned that someone could honestly profess to not knowing the difference between a black woman from NYC making a Facebook post and a player and his dad from Johnson County using boosters, media, and an athletic department to trash a coach and the program because they didn't like the fact that the coach made the kid play point guard. Not only did the Spradlings take a scorched earth philosophy last spring but they continue to grind that axe nearly a full year later well after their problem was gone. Will had and has an active role in Spradling v. Martin, JO had no role in his mom's Facebook post.
I'm going to assume that any attempts to favorably compare the two situations is just a case of message boarding. Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
end rant, I wish the thread would have been more fun, now I'm going to start the Frank press conference thread with high hopes
Love the hit and run bitch move.WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
it doesn't get that great. i derailed it and then ruined it. much apologies.
You didn't.
I'm stunned that someone could honestly profess to not knowing the difference between a black woman from NYC making a Facebook post and a player and his dad from Johnson County using boosters, media, and an athletic department to trash a coach and the program because they didn't like the fact that the coach made the kid play point guard. Not only did the Spradlings take a scorched earth philosophy last spring but they continue to grind that axe nearly a full year later well after their problem was gone. Will had and has an active role in Spradling v. Martin, JO had no role in his mom's Facebook post.
I'm going to assume that any attempts to favorably compare the two situations is just a case of message boarding. Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
end rant, I wish the thread would have been more fun, now I'm going to start the Frank press conference thread with high hopes
Wtf are you talking about my butthurt? I don't take swipes at him in random ass threads dumbass.Love the hit and run bitch move.WOW go away from the board for a couple of hours and I miss this huge story. I'm only on page 1 but as the conductor of the teamJO train and a confirmed hardcore Frankite, I'm gonna enjoy the hell of of pages 2-5
:excited: :ksu: :drool: :dance:
it doesn't get that great. i derailed it and then ruined it. much apologies.
You didn't.
I'm stunned that someone could honestly profess to not knowing the difference between a black woman from NYC making a Facebook post and a player and his dad from Johnson County using boosters, media, and an athletic department to trash a coach and the program because they didn't like the fact that the coach made the kid play point guard. Not only did the Spradlings take a scorched earth philosophy last spring but they continue to grind that axe nearly a full year later well after their problem was gone. Will had and has an active role in Spradling v. Martin, JO had no role in his mom's Facebook post.
I'm going to assume that any attempts to favorably compare the two situations is just a case of message boarding. Also dlew if I could directly address you for a second, personally for you to lump everyone critical of Will & Shannon into the "Will is a pussy" group is incredibly insulting. You obviously didn't do it directly to me here, but you have in the past and you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
end rant, I wish the thread would have been more fun, now I'm going to start the Frank press conference thread with high hopes
MIR posted 20 minutes after this post in this very thread, dumbass. Your butthurt over him is weird.
way to call your shots team pseudo, really childish.way to back your stats upQuote from: ednksuOur stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
chirp gonna chirp
my stats are backing up the fact that your baseless thread sucks, i hope that helps.
There are couple of people in this thread and in general who are doing a really good job of drawing attention to their stupidity. Six pages :sdeek:
Dude he went to this camp this one time in middle school when someone who could rebound told him so.We also changed coaches and rebounding is something that can be both coached and affected by the coach's philosophy.
The people you are talking to here won't listen to you. These dumbasses think if you just indiscriminately throw your hands at the rim every chance you get, you'll get lots of rebounds. All effort Rusty, nothing else.
You're so edgy MIR, I mean golly, you just can't flail around at the ball and rim and get rebounds? Man, the insight!!
so you threatening me asking for my seat location in the Bram was just have have a chat, after calling me a bitch? GTFO. You're lying through your teeth at this point.:facepalm:ironing
So we got to this place we are now because some guys went to a road game, had a good time and needled some people in the process. Homophobia, threats, cyberstalking, etc. over a basketball game that ISU won. As I expressed yesterday, some of you are tying your happiness and well being a little to closely to basketball. There's nothing that happened over the weekend that happened that should make you feel good about calling someone a man of taste and distinction. If it weren't for all of the in person passive-aggressiveness I may have thought that some of these dudes would have fought if we won.
OKclone and topgun needs to find out in their next therapy session why they are so uncomfortable with human interaction in real life but turns into the incredible hulk on the internet and why they see no shame in this.
Yeah I've never done any of those things. If you're insinuating that I wouldn't tell you that you're a stupid ass to your face, trust me when I tell you that you're very wrong. Don't answer we don't care, seriously.
Get with the real world, everyone does stupid crap, don't get offended when others call you out for doing the same thing.
You had the most prominent case of calling player a pussy on this board, your history is yours don't be mad at me about it.Dude I own that entirely as I have said before. I made an ass out of myself that night and I was pissed beyond belief. But ya know what, JP came out after that bad stretch of games and said he wasn't thinking of his team, that he was distracted by his career goals after K-State. He came out and said he needed to recommit himself to his goals at K-State because he wasn't playing up to his standards. He vindicated everything I was saying that night. Now does he owe that to me? Not really, but he owed it to the K-State community which we're apart of. What pissed me off the most, he owed it to himself.
You just randomly called out MIR for a "hit and run bitch move", so your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs should really be directed at yourself.how do you square that with the fact he was taking veiled swipes at me. The first example you post I wasn't responding to him and he came in with a childish hit. The second example he called me a dumbass in another post you, i'm sure, accidentally left out. The third example speaks directly to my horrid meltdown and MiR's repeated shots at me, culminating to him wanting to confront me in Bramlage. I don't make it a habit to inject his name randomly into threads to make a shitty point.
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You just randomly called out MIR for a "hit and run bitch move", so your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs should really be directed at yourself.how do you square that with the fact he was taking veiled swipes at me. The first example you post I wasn't responding to him and he came in with a childish hit. The second example he called me a dumbass in another post you, i'm sure, accidentally left out. The third example speaks directly to my horrid meltdown and MiR's repeated shots at me, culminating to him wanting to confront me in Bramlage. I don't make it a habit to inject his name randomly into threads to make a shitty point.
Do you see in everyone one of your examples he went at me first?You just randomly called out MIR for a "hit and run bitch move", so your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs should really be directed at yourself.how do you square that with the fact he was taking veiled swipes at me. The first example you post I wasn't responding to him and he came in with a childish hit. The second example he called me a dumbass in another post you, i'm sure, accidentally left out. The third example speaks directly to my horrid meltdown and MiR's repeated shots at me, culminating to him wanting to confront me in Bramlage. I don't make it a habit to inject his name randomly into threads to make a shitty point.
Just seems funny that you're trying to tell MIR to leave you alone and stop reading your posts the same night your ran in a posted "Love a hit and run bitch move" after one of his posts. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
EVERYBODY SHUT UP!
You had the most prominent case of calling player a pussy on this board, your history is yours don't be mad at me about it.Dude I own that entirely as I have said before. I made an ass out of myself that night and I was pissed beyond belief. But ya know what, JP came out after that bad stretch of games and said he wasn't thinking of his team, that he was distracted by his career goals after K-State. He came out and said he needed to recommit himself to his goals at K-State because he wasn't playing up to his standards. He vindicated everything I was saying that night. Now does he owe that to me? Not really, but he owed it to the K-State community which we're apart of. What pissed me off the most, he owed it to himself.
Do you see in everyone one of your examples he went at me first?You just randomly called out MIR for a "hit and run bitch move", so your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs should really be directed at yourself.how do you square that with the fact he was taking veiled swipes at me. The first example you post I wasn't responding to him and he came in with a childish hit. The second example he called me a dumbass in another post you, i'm sure, accidentally left out. The third example speaks directly to my horrid meltdown and MiR's repeated shots at me, culminating to him wanting to confront me in Bramlage. I don't make it a habit to inject his name randomly into threads to make a shitty point.
Just seems funny that you're trying to tell MIR to leave you alone and stop reading your posts the same night your ran in a posted "Love a hit and run bitch move" after one of his posts. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
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If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.Love the hit and run bitch move.
The least you could do is read the posts.
1. In the first one, he didn't directly attack you. He said there's a lot of stupid in this thread. You, rightly, assumed he was talking about you and responded. In the second one, I have no idea what went on earlier in that thread, I just found that post. I'm not going to look it up. I don't care if he called you a dumbass earlier or not. And the third one was not an example of you attacking him, it was just funny that you called Pullen a pussy and then refuse to meet MIR in real life.
2. None of these examples matter because today, February 15th, you swept in and randomly attacked MIR. Then moments later said MIR should not randomly attack you.
3. You listened to fanning when he told everyone to shut up. That should tell you all you need to know about yourself.
[...] you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
I know, but you were nowhere to be found. I thought I'd give it a shot. :DEVERYBODY SHUT UP!
this only works when I do it
That grammar was awful.
You gotta save this stuff for when we're trying to clown visiting fans and visiting tucks, imo.
Right on, Bro! :cheers:
Also pull it out when you get in an argument with a Repub. in the Dunning-Kruger Dome or whatever.
I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:
I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:
:ohno:I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:
I have a strategy to deal with every high level poster on this board (this is embarrassingly not a joke). I'm real life friends with most of them so it doesn't come to this a lot. But, each has their own ways to attack things. I go through my fake scenarios on how they will post and know how to respond really well to each making them feel like douches. This is mostly just a warning to all of you fuckers.
I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:
I don't know what it was, but 'clams has mellowed in recent years. A couple years back, he was PI'ing people off the board left and right.
I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:I want a piece of jakesie. Power lifting, schmower lifting.
Good lord, you would swear we are fans of an effing Kansas 3A High School basketball teamYou got that right, Luke. :thumbsup:
You had the most prominent case of calling player a pussy on this board, your history is yours don't be mad at me about it.Dude I own that entirely as I have said before. I made an ass out of myself that night and I was pissed beyond belief. But ya know what, JP came out after that bad stretch of games and said he wasn't thinking of his team, that he was distracted by his career goals after K-State. He came out and said he needed to recommit himself to his goals at K-State because he wasn't playing up to his standards. He vindicated everything I was saying that night. Now does he owe that to me? Not really, but he owed it to the K-State community which we're apart of. What pissed me off the most, he owed it to himself.
That doesn't change the fact you have this weird obsession with me and my posting for no reason. Its pretty clear that I don't value a lot of the banter here. There are a few posters which make this board into the great place it can be. :blush: The vast majority of people here, people like you, with your little clicks and groups make this a terrible place for most people. I come here to read a fan frames, read Dax's facility posts, and CC's indery info. Honestly I've enjoyed some of the convos we've had and some of the stuff you post. But you get hung up on trying to prove yourself right, and if I may barrow, prove that you have "sharper tongue", even though you are speaking out both sides of your mouth (see your comments on volleyball).
I've said before, lets just leave each other be, don't take random swipes at people. But you don't do that, you've got this weird obsession with me for no reason. You don't like my posting, don't follow it. If you have something constructive say it. But this random, childish, crap is just something a bore of a person does to make themselves feel better.
Bread doesn't have the stomach for a goEMAW throw down with clams or SD, I'm certain of it.
I'm about to come off the top rope in this thread (elite pro wrestling reference). One time clams posted something about something that I had posted and it made me feel bad and I was like "Geez, clams" in my head. Who else wants some? BBS royal rumble! :drool:Will this be a caged death match. :excited:
Don't worry, he's a sock. :DBread doesn't have the stomach for a goEMAW throw down with clams or SD, I'm certain of it.
FWIW, Jakesie, MIR absolutely took a shot at edn in a thread that edn hadn't posted in yet. Weird battle to fight.[...] you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
I wanted dlew and mir to fight and I get this crap?
FWIW, Jakesie, MIR absolutely took a shot at edn in a thread that edn hadn't posted in yet. Weird battle to fight.[...] you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
I didn't take a shot at anyone. Dlew used the hypothetical of calling Will a pussy. The two posters I named have called people pussies on this board, that's a fact. My point was that people who chose to use that word, almost always ironically BTW, shouldn't be lumped in with people who have a more effective way of making a point. As I said before, if you don't want to be characterized in that way you shouldn't call people pussies. Earlier in the week kougar said I can be unnecessarily mean at times, I can't get mad at that because I can be unnecessarily mean at times. This is all I have to say about this because I think it is amazingly stupid that it is detracting from JO's wonderful mother.
FWIW, Jakesie, MIR absolutely took a shot at edn in a thread that edn hadn't posted in yet. Weird battle to fight.[...] you did essentially lump all of goEMAW into this group. If you are associating talking points from the MIcat and RDs of the board with those from the bigwillie and edns there really isn't a rational place to go from there.
I didn't take a shot at anyone. Dlew used the hypothetical of calling Will a pussy. The two posters I named have called people pussies on this board, that's a fact. My point was that people who chose to use that word, almost always ironically BTW, shouldn't be lumped in with people who have a more effective way of making a point. As I said before, if you don't want to be characterized in that way you shouldn't call people pussies. Earlier in the week kougar said I can be unnecessarily mean at times, I can't get mad at that because I can be unnecessarily mean at times. This is all I have to say about this because I think it is amazingly stupid that it is detracting from JO's wonderful mother.
Oh yeah I can definitely see how you didn't mean it as a shot but if anyone lumped me in with bw20 I would take it as shot, JMO.
#teamJOandMsCougar
is this the warroom
is this the warroom
i really love MIR too. i was looking for an oppy to say it earlier without it being totally weird and out of place, but i coudln't. i bet i started and deleted 3 or 4 posts being like "hey just so everyone knows i really like MIR." i'm glad i found an opportunity now.I wanted dlew and mir to fight and I get this crap?
Never. I love him.
What about that jtksu guy. He really boils my brains. Well actually, not so much anymore. I kinda like how he BBS's now.have noticed this as well :thumbs:
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