Everything about oscar's system is a cancer

[ednksu]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

Than deal in reality.  We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding.  You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.

hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.

I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.

rebounding we are 6th, in rebounding margin in conference we are getting destroyed coming in at 7th.  Offensive rebounds in conference we are dead rough ridin' last. Defensive rebounding in conference we are 8th beating out powerhouses TTU and TCU. Offensive rebounding percent in conference we are once again dead last. 

You're stat is inclusive of outlying performance over bad teams.  Look at the conference stats or overall stats which aren't artificially inflated due to quality of opponent.

[kso_FAN]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

Than deal in reality.  We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding.  You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.

hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.

I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.

rebounding we are 6th, in rebounding margin in conference we are getting destroyed coming in at 7th.  Offensive rebounds in conference we are dead rough ridin' last. Defensive rebounding in conference we are 8th beating out powerhouses TTU and TCU. Offensive rebounding percent in conference we are once again dead last. 

You're stat is inclusive of outlying performance over bad teams.  Look at the conference stats or overall stats which aren't artificially inflated due to quality of opponent.

clams is just trying to say we aren't as bad as our numbers show right now, and I would tend to agree.

We won't be the worst offensive rebounding team by the end of Big 12 play, but we won't be great either. I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.

[ednksu]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

Than deal in reality.  We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding.  You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.

hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.

I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.

rebounding we are 6th, in rebounding margin in conference we are getting destroyed coming in at 7th.  Offensive rebounds in conference we are dead rough ridin' last. Defensive rebounding in conference we are 8th beating out powerhouses TTU and TCU. Offensive rebounding percent in conference we are once again dead last. 

You're stat is inclusive of outlying performance over bad teams.  Look at the conference stats or overall stats which aren't artificially inflated due to quality of opponent.

clams is just trying to say we aren't as bad as our numbers show right now, and I would tend to agree.

We won't be the worst offensive rebounding team by the end of Big 12 play, but we won't be great either. I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.

while we might not be dead last, we have played a fairly even big 12 schedule.  1 bottom, 1 bottom 3rd, 1 top, 3 kinda in the typical big 12 middle pack in OSU, OU and ISU.  The serious issue here is that this team is built to be Frank team, where middle of the pack rebounding will not result in a favorable overall W/L.

[CNS]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me.

Good.

Man, I am confused now.

[WillieWatanabe]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me.

Good.

[kougar24]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.

Harvey Dent

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[Stevesie60]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.

Harvey Dent

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I think that was the point of MadCat's post.

[0.42]

I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.

Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.

 

I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).

The anger and confusion in the immediate period after the hiring obscured the ability to sit down and think through things rationally for a lot of us.

[MakeItRain]

clams is just trying to say we aren't as bad as our numbers show right now, and I would tend to agree.

I may just spend the day reposting posts I like.

[pissclams]

my favorite was the part when edn claimed our statistics are lying.

[michigancat]

did not read, but an argument about strength of schedule's influence on rebounding margin seems pretty funny.

[ednksu]

my favorite was the part when edn claimed our statistics are lying.

no I claimed people with low statistical IQ would find one stat to latch onto to make themselves feel better about our crappy outlook. 


Why don't people call their shot on where this team will end up rebounding? 

Last year we were:
2nd in rebounding
7th in defensive rebounding
3rd in margin
1st in offensive boards


so where are we going to finish.  Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.

[kso_FAN]

so where are we going to finish.  Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.

I said what I thought the actual numbers would be, I'd guess these numbers would place us right in the middle of the league for both. My concern is that we finish about the same between OR% and OR% given up. I'd guess our OR% will be slightly better and both will be around 4th-6th.

I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.

[pissclams]

my favorite was the part when edn claimed our statistics are lying.

no I claimed people with low statistical IQ would find one stat to latch onto to make themselves feel better about our crappy outlook. 


Why don't people call their shot on where this team will end up rebounding? 

Last year we were:
2nd in rebounding
7th in defensive rebounding
3rd in margin
1st in offensive boards


so where are we going to finish.  Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.

you don't know what the eff you're talking about.   

[ednksu]

so where are we going to finish.  Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.

I said what I thought the actual numbers would be, I'd guess these numbers would place us right in the middle of the league for both. My concern is that we finish about the same between OR% and OR% given up. I'd guess our OR% will be slightly better and both will be around 4th-6th.

I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.

Thanks, you've been fair in your analysis and contribution and I appreciate it.  I wonder why the people chirping aren't so diligent. 

I could see us in the same range, and pretty dismal in categories like o boards (lower 3rd).  My concern is that the way this team is built, we need that component of our game in order to have success.  Without strong rebounding that is going to translate to a lot less success. 

[pissclams]

Our stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.

[kougar24]

did not read, but an argument about strength of schedule's influence on rebounding margin seems pretty funny.

Look at what Bruceketball has reduced us to already!

[ednksu]

Our stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.

way to back your stats up
chirp gonna chirp

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

I wish someone knew the stats of our W/L record in grey jerseys and white jerseys at home. I feel like the grey ones throw everything off

[ksupamplemousse]

I read this entire thread, and have come to the conclusion that John Currie's plan is working brilliantly. Hire a polarizing coach after a beloved coach leaves, so that we will be divided. That way their won't be any kind of united front in opposition of his future (poor) decisions. Bravo John...Bravo 

[sonofdaxjones]

Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU). 

[wetwillie]

Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU). 

Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse

[sonofdaxjones]

Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU). 

Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse

It's not a dead horse, we're +5 rebounds per game on the season, and only -2.5 per game in conference play, it it continues to be an issue going down the stretch than you guys can beat the dead horse . . . and when you only miss 9 shots in a half of basketball, well, duh right??

[The Whale]

Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU). 

Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse

It's not a dead horse, we're +5 rebounds per game on the season, and only -2.5 per game in conference play, it it continues to be an issue going down the stretch than you guys can beat the dead horse . . . and when you only miss 9 shots in a half of basketball, well, duh right??

no denied.  Frank left the cupboard bare.  None of these guys are any good at basketball.

[pissclams]

Our stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.

way to back your stats up
chirp gonna chirp

my stats are backing up the fact that your baseless thread sucks, i hope that helps.