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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: CNS on February 11, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
It's just boring that way. I think he didn't really die, just like Bran, Arya, Daavos, Brienne, Tyrion, and god knows who else I can't remember. Have you ever visited those GoT forums? Thsoe guys are crazy but I CAN'T LOOK AWAY.
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Nope on the forums. This one keeps me from work to much as it is.
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Put the spoilers in this one.
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Put the spoilers in this one.
I hope I didn't ruin anything for you, Pete. I gave you warning.
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Put the spoilers in this one.
I hope I didn't ruin anything for you, Pete. I gave you warning.
I'm good, just worried about poor Kat Kid. :frown:
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
No way. John Snow's body is dead, bro. They setup the entire body switching thing....he's going to go live in his wolf now. The end.
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
No way. John Snow's body is dead, bro. They setup the entire body switching thing....he's going to go live in his wolf now. The end.
nope, because he's Rhaegar Targaryn and Lyanna Stark's son. BOOM!
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
No way. John Snow's body is dead, bro. They setup the entire body switching thing....he's going to go live in his wolf now. The end.
nope, because he's Rhaegar Targaryn and Lyanna Stark's son. BOOM!
Holy crap. Gonna hook up w Danni.
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
No way. John Snow's body is dead, bro. They setup the entire body switching thing....he's going to go live in his wolf now. The end.
nope, because he's Rhaegar Targaryn and Lyanna Stark's son. BOOM!
You mean he's going to body snatch his half-sister's rough ridin' kid?
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okay, I finished the last book. good grief. SEMI-SPOILERS BELOW (DO WE HAVE SPOILER FONT????)
so, eff the way the left John. He's pulled this crap too many goddam times. Also, I don't know how he's gonna wrap crap up in two more books.
but Dany! :excited:
You know Milissandra(SP) is gonna step in and do the kiss of life thing to John and that he will return as a guy who gives zero fucks about he wall and will go take back Winterfell. Just seems right.
No way. John Snow's body is dead, bro. They setup the entire body switching thing....he's going to go live in his wolf now. The end.
nope, because he's Rhaegar Targaryn and Lyanna Stark's son. BOOM!
You mean he's going to body snatch his half-sister's rough ridin' kid?
I don't know where it's going, but he has more to do as John Snow because he's a Targaryen. (I DON'T KNOW HOW TO rough ridin' SPELL THAT NAME). I think Maester Aemon knew because he told him all his family history and crap. And Jon was like "why'd you tell me all that?" and Aemon was like, "uh, never mind".
He's too important to live as a wolf. But what makes me think he may die is that it will let him out of his Night's Watch oath.
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Oh man, that could make sense. Could by why dumb Ned never would tell anyone about where John was from other than that John was his bastard. Would make sense if that was his sis's kid and had to hide the fact that John is half targaryn since that would have been right after the revolt and all other targaryn kids were thought to be murdered at that time. Keep lil sis's kid safe by claiming him as Dumb Ned's own. Man.
I just moved on to other books and didn't take the time to think through much stuff like this.
Damn that next book needs to come out.
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Oh man, that could make sense. Could by why dumb Ned never would tell anyone about where John was from other than that John was his bastard. Would make sense if that was his sis's kid and had to hide the fact that John is half targaryn since that would have been right after the revolt and all other targaryn kids were thought to be murdered at that time. Keep lil sis's kid safe by claiming him as Dumb Ned's own. Man.
I just moved on to other books and didn't take the time to think through much stuff like this.
Damn that next book needs to come out.
Ya. I feel kinda bad now. I totally missed the part where he really wasn't Ned's kid. :frown:
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Oh man, that could make sense. Could by why dumb Ned never would tell anyone about where John was from other than that John was his bastard. Would make sense if that was his sis's kid and had to hide the fact that John is half targaryn since that would have been right after the revolt and all other targaryn kids were thought to be murdered at that time. Keep lil sis's kid safe by claiming him as Dumb Ned's own. Man.
I just moved on to other books and didn't take the time to think through much stuff like this.
Damn that next book needs to come out.
Ya. I feel kinda bad now. I totally missed the part where he really wasn't Ned's kid. :frown:
You missed it, because it is just an awesome guess as of now.
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to be fair, I only figured it out because of the forums.
But my wife caught that he was a targeryn during the first book, because he has purple eyes. I was like, "HOLY crap, YOU MAY BE RIGHT".
Also, I'm wondering how John was a factor in Robert's rebellion. Did Ned run a little trickeration on ol' Robert to protect John and his sister? READ THIS YOU GUYS:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark
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Mrs. Gooch is going to come in here and drop some knowledge on you fools.
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I didn't catch the purp eyes thing in the first book. But that pretty much guarantees it. the only time he takes time to make mention of purple eyes is for the targaryns themselves or those who are related.
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Ned always talked about how much he loved Jon Snow's mother; so it likely could be his sister he was talking about.
And they always said that Arya looks like Lyanna; and Arya and Jon look alike.
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I never made the eye-color connection. That certainly is an interesting point. Regardless, Jon still has a role left to play in this series. Martin isn't going to kill him off yet.
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I think my wife may have been imagining things. this says his eyes were grey:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow
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I think my wife may have been imagining things. this says his eyes were grey:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow
Welp.
Back to the lady in red.
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He's a warg or whatever. He's going to live in the body of that rough ridin' wold, guys.
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He's a warg or whatever. He's going to live in the body of that rough ridin' wold, guys.
Boring.
As.
crap.
Also, how bad do the ppl in the other GoT thread want to click on this thread but won't let themselves for now. Gotta be killing them.
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I think my wife may have been imagining things. this says his eyes were grey:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow
Welp.
Back to the lady in red.
:nono:
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/8085-the-lyanna-rhaegar-jon-thread/page__st__0
It goes to rough ridin' part 41 now: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/80880-rlj-v41/
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He's a warg or whatever. He's going to live in the body of that rough ridin' wold, guys.
Boring.
As.
crap.
Also, how bad do the ppl in the other GoT thread want to click on this thread but won't let themselves for now. Gotta be killing them.
The breaking bad spoiler thread was especially tough for me because my rough ridin' name was in the thread title.
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Also, since this is full of spoilers, what was the deal with the rough ridin' dumbass Martell trying to steal the dragons? Seems like GRRM kind of half-assedly devoted some time to him as a way to get the dragons loose.
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I think my wife may have been imagining things. this says his eyes were grey:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow
Welp.
Back to the lady in red.
:nono:
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/8085-the-lyanna-rhaegar-jon-thread/page__st__0
It goes to rough ridin' part 41 now: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/80880-rlj-v41/
41 threads. See, this is why I can't do that. I will finish reading and realize that I haven't eaten in three days and my wife would have called me in as a missing person.
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Also, since this is full of spoilers, what was the deal with the rough ridin' dumbass Martell trying to steal the dragons? Seems like GRRM kind of half-assedly devoted some time to him as a way to get the dragons loose.
Somebody had to die in ADWD. If it's not going to be Jon Snow, it might as well be some character that wasn't introduced earlier than the 5th book.
Do you guys think Ramsay really has Mance and the spearwives, or do you think they got away?
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Ramsay is a liar.
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Ramsay is a liar.
Yes, he obviously doesn't have Stannis. He might have Mance, though.
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Ramsay is going to be the main antagonist during Jon Snow's rise.
He has mance. That would help him be the antagonist to Jon.
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Ramsay is going to be the main antagonist during Jon Snow's rise.
He has mance. That would help him be the antagonist to Jon.
Yeah, he has to have either Mance or at least one of the spearwives, or he wouldn't realize Mance was the bard. We know he doesn't have Stannis, though, or he wouldn't be asking Jon for Reek. If Melisandre brings Jon back to life and makes him her new champion, I don't think Stannis will like that much.
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
Yeah, but there are gaps. Do we discuss spoiler stuff in this thread?
WHERE ARE THE GAPS
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Continuing from stupid TV thread where there are a bunch of retards that can't read:
Cersei has shown that she knows her son is a monster and has shown that she wants out of all the red keep stuff by trying to claim herself as heir to their homeland. he father refused her, her bro has shunned her, and she feels she is losing her son to his new wife. She is running out of friends and leverage. I think we will see a big opportunity for a major story change in her. The last book(or two, maybe, after reading they flow together a little in my head) it was mentioned a couple times that she knew what her son was but she seemed to take the stance that she couldn't do anything because he was her son. Basically she is in a corner and doesn't seem to have any options.
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I felt bad for Cersei for about half a second when she had to walk naked through town; but then I remembered that she deserved it.
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So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?
Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal :excited:
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So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?
Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal :excited:
OK, yeah that would be awesome. I want Dany to end up with 2 men - Jon & her nephew or whatever that everyone thought was dead. (1 person for each dragon like that one Aegon? had 2 wives/sisters.) Yeah it's incesty but not as incesty as past Targaryens.
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So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?
Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal :excited:
man, I never even thought about warging dragons. holy crap that will be the balls.
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Based upon the fact that Bran can warg into Hodor, I would assume that it is entirely possible in the world of Westeros. Whether GRRM takes it there or not is the issue.
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So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?
Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal :excited:
OK, yeah that would be awesome. I want Dany to end up with 2 men - Jon & her nephew or whatever that everyone thought was dead. (1 person for each dragon like that one Aegon? had 2 wives/sisters.) Yeah it's incesty but not as incesty as past Targaryens.
So, I just finished book 5 a few weeks ago and just found this thread again.. but I've been led to believe that Danny's "nephew or whatever" that Tyrion was going down the river with for a little while might be the "false dragon" that Danny was warned about in her prophecy...
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i'm going to have to re-read all these stupid books before the 6th one, aren't I? i don't remember a lot :frown:
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i'm going to have to re-read all these stupid books before the 6th one, aren't I? i don't remember a lot :frown:
Yeah. I think I will read the last one at least. I googled book 6 to see if there was a projected time for release yet and I think it said late 2014, but that was moved from late 2013, so who knows when it will finally come. I am pretty confident in saying that GRRM won't finish it. He is old and has subscribed to the Fitz method of taking care of one's self in old age.
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Yeah, I keep getting confused between Frog (Quentyn Martell?) who somehow had "dragon blood" and Griff (Aegon?) who is Dany's nephew.
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i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead
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i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead
Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?
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i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead
Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?
nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.
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i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead
Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?
nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.
yea.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Quentyn_Martell
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i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead
Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?
nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.
I just found that he's related to them back further in his bloodline.
"I can trace my lineage back to the first Daenerys, the Targaryen princess who was sister to King Daeron the Good and wife to the Prince of Dorne."
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Yeah, I keep getting confused between Frog (Quentyn Martell?) who somehow had "dragon blood" and Griff (Aegon?) who is Dany's nephew.
Aegon is *supposedly* Dany's nephew..
She receives a warning from Quaithe (the chick with her face hidden by a mask all the time)
"The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare, and after her the others. Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun's son and the mummer's dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal."
The glass candles are burning at the Citadel in Oldtown.. The pale mare was the bloody flux running rampant through slavers bay.. Kraken (Victarion Greyjoyh) and dark flame (Moqorro the red priest that Victarion saved from the shipwreck that Jorah and Tyrion were both in as well), Lion and Griffin (Tyrion and John Connington), Sun's Son (Quentyn) and Mummer's Dragon (Aegon).
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Not sure if this is real or not...
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/the-original-pitch-for-game-of-thrones-has-leaked-and-its-mi