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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: emawer on February 11, 2013, 08:39:02 AM
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Scores at the under 12:00 Timeout the last 4 years in AFH:
5-17 KU
6-17 KU
12-20 KU
5-20 KU
I think we can keep it close early and settle down, we will be fine..
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These are great.
'08 : 9-23 KU
'07: 6-15 KU
'06: 10-8 KSU
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'06: 10-8 KSU
:ksu:
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I don't think that will be the case this year. I expect the score to bu much closer at the under 12:00 timeout. Very good chance KSU is leading. For any bettors out there I would run and put money the KSU covering the 9 point spread before it gets lowered. That line is a bet your mortgage line.
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It's ok guys, I just got done texting sky thom, and I asked him for some of his ju ju from 06'. He sent them my way, it's all good.
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I don't think that will be the case this year. I expect the score to bu much closer at the under 12:00 timeout. Very good chance KSU is leading. For any bettors out there I would run and put money the KSU covering the 9 point spread before it gets lowered. That line is a bet your mortgage line.
Just kind of has the feeling of a perfect storm for us to walk in there and get unloaded on, which happens pretty much every time anyways
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I don't think that will be the case this year. I expect the score to bu much closer at the under 12:00 timeout. Very good chance KSU is leading. For any bettors out there I would run and put money the KSU covering the 9 point spread before it gets lowered. That line is a bet your mortgage line.
Just kind of has the feeling of a perfect storm for us to walk in there and get unloaded on, which happens pretty much every time anyways
My roommate, who is a KSU fan, said basically the same thing. I can understand that point of view but just looking at how these teams have been playing the last week, I don't see it happening. If a blowout happens it will be the Cats killing the Hawks. If KU wins it will be close.
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I don't think that will be the case this year. I expect the score to bu much closer at the under 12:00 timeout. Very good chance KSU is leading. For any bettors out there I would run and put money the KSU covering the 9 point spread before it gets lowered. That line is a bet your mortgage line.
Just kind of has the feeling of a perfect storm for us to walk in there and get unloaded on, which happens pretty much every time anyways
My roommate, who is a KSU fan, said basically the same thing. I can understand that point of view but just looking at how these teams have been playing the last week, I don't see it happening. If a blowout happens it will be the Cats killing the Hawks. If KU wins it will be close.
This is just the kind of mentality that gets you BLOWN OUT.
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The last 5 years have drained the emaw out of me when it comes to that old pissbarn.
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I think we can all agree oscar looks and acts more like Wooly than he does Frank/Huggs. Wooly was the last coach to win at AFH and have a lead after the under 12 timeout. Also we won 59-55, which is the score that KU beat KSU by earlier this season. Just saying. :surprised:
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There is always a lot of talk about pressure in this game, and its hard to really measure, but still a legitimate point. IMO early in the game, because of the history here, K-State starts with more pressure despite how KU comes into this game. However, if K-State gets going early and maintains a lead, the pressure will all swing fully to KU by halftime. The thought of being the first team in 20 years to lose 4 in a row, lose 2 in a row at home, and nearly eliminate the possibility of 9 straight (all against a rival) will be really tough. And they've already shown to have some mental weaknesses.
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KU by 20
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Have they made the "oscar Weber does my taxes" shirt yet?
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I don't like it when KU fans troll us about this being a really close game. I don't like it one bit.
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I don't like it when KU fans troll us about this being a really close game. I don't like it one bit.
No trolling on my part, I'm legitimately worried about this game.
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Have they made the "oscar Weber does my taxes" shirt yet?
:lol:
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There is always a lot of talk about pressure in this game, and its hard to really measure, but still a legitimate point. IMO early in the game, because of the history here, K-State starts with more pressure despite how KU comes into this game. However, if K-State gets going early and maintains a lead, the pressure will all swing fully to KU by halftime. The thought of being the first team in 20 years to lose 4 in a row, lose 2 in a row at home, and nearly eliminate the possibility of 9 straight (all against a rival) will be really tough. And they've already shown to have some mental weaknesses.
^^^^ THIS^^^^ exactly.
With that said, in the past the teams that won in Allen were generally middle of the pack teams like K-State in '06. However this year ku has very little leadership within the team and thus seem more susceptible to the creeping doubts you mentioned vs top teams in conference contending for the crown.
In the past 5 yrs it seemed that they would smack the top teams in the big 12, but the teams that threatened an upset were usually the bottom feeders that they overlooked. Question then becomes, did OSU fully expose them & can we hit enough shots early to flip the pressure?
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Not sure if this will matter but every bit of pressure will be on them. We should be playing care free.
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Yes, we should be really loose and just bombing them from deep three range.
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I don't like it when KU fans troll us about this being a really close game. I don't like it one bit.
I'm not falling for these tricks.
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I bet EJ snaps out and hits some ridiculous 3's. I bet Will is below 30% from 3
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I bet EJ snaps out and hits some ridiculous 3's. I bet Will is below 30% from 3
I bet things that always happen will happen.
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Scoring inside will kill the Jayhawks--they've had their panties in a wad over guard play, exploiting the inside game would split that team wide open. Your guess is as good as mine if the 'Cats can actually do that.
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It will be a lot easier to not piss down our leg at the beginning of the game because the players should be convinced that KU is mortal. They did not seem to have that thought in the past 6 years.
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I'm kind of throwing out TCU because that was such a weird game, but OU/OSU showed the keys to me; stay even shooting and on the boards, and you have a great shot because you will likely force TOs. And we're the best in the league at TO% differntial. In Manhattan the TOs weren't enough because we shot terrible and got out boarded.
I'm hopeful some confidence for us will help shooting; KU was one of only 2 Big 12 games that we shot less than 51%.
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KU can't score this year. I don't think we're looking at the typical big deficit at the start of the game.
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Dribble penetration (especially by Tyshawn) seemed to be out undoing at the begining of the games in AFH. Between EJ's down confidence and the half step he seems to have lost and considering the Weber does not demand the same ball pressure/wing denial as Frank does we should be better suited to keep it close early. I wanted Frank to play the first 2 or 3 poss in zone, just to make KU pass the ball a little and let the the crowd settle down in past years.
I don't think we will score much more than the 7 or so points we have average over the first 8 minutes of the past games but hopefully KU will be right down there with us. :pray:
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KU can't score this year. I don't think we're looking at the typical big deficit at the start of the game.
Their drop off in Big 12 play this year is pretty dramatic, especially in eFG% and PPP.
The top row is their average in Big 12 games during Self's first 8 seasons, the 2nd row is this year's Big 12 numbers.
Total Pace PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
KU 04-12 68.7 1.12 54.5 20.0 36.4 39.4
KU 12-13 65.8 1.00 47.3 20.6 35.0 47.1
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KU can't score this year. I don't think we're looking at the typical big deficit at the start of the game.
I see KU at +50% FG and +35% 3PT. They've had some marginal games. But this is KSU @ Allen. This won't be a marginal KU performance. Throw the refs in on the action, and we'll be down 10 in the first 8 minutes.
I hope I'm wrong. But, everybody who's not Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) knows I'm right.
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I have a feeling I am going to watch the same game I have seen for the last several years.... :bang:
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We will win this game and then lose the next four
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
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Cats will be up 15-8 at the 12 minute mark. We cruise to an easy W imo
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
In our first matchup, we had 9 points from our bigs. Somebody explain to me why this number increases dramatically at AFH?
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Listening to 810's recap of the coaches cc and oscar just mentioned they went up to Lawrence last night. I don't believe it is typical for KU or KSU to spend the night for these games, especially a night game, anybody recall differently?
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They spent the night there every year except for last year. Last year they had a police escort the day of.
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Listening to 810's recap of the coaches cc and oscar just mentioned they went up to Lawrence last night. I don't believe it is typical for KU or KSU to spend the night for these games, especially a night game, anybody recall differently?
Wanted to get in a couple of shoot arounds to get use to the piss smell.
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
In our first matchup, we had 9 points from our bigs. Somebody explain to me why this number increases dramatically at AFH?
I'll concede that its only a 4 game stretch, but Gip is playing the best basketball of his career. The biggest question is if he'll be able to stay out of foul trouble.
12.8 PPG. .616 FGs and .750 FTs. FT rate of 35%. 2+ Oboards and 3 Dboards per. And no game with more than 3 fouls.
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IMO, this game comes down to Withey. If he shows up, normal things happen. If not, we own their asses in an embarrassing fashion.
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Since we are their Super Bowl, KU will hit some ridiculous ISU-esque threes to the tune of 23/30 (made/attempted). We make 0/13 at half and 4/28 for the game because of basketball reasons. :barf:
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
In our first matchup, we had 9 points from our bigs. Somebody explain to me why this number increases dramatically at AFH?
I'll concede that its only a 4 game stretch, but Gip is playing the best basketball of his career. The biggest question is if he'll be able to stay out of foul trouble.
Gip has played great against guys who are 6'6 - 6'8. See ISU, OU, Tech. Or against guys who are compete puds. See UT. Withey is 7'0 and plays 33 mpg. He just doesn't match-up well.
I'm not concerned with KU's offense, per se. I think they'll score better than they have in the last 3 games, though. I'm concerned that our offense will look like it did in Manhattan - basically relying on the 3 ball because we get no post production and Withey clogs up the paint.
If somebody can tell me how we get 15+ pts out of Gip and JO, I'll be more at ease.
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they're going to kill us
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they're going to kill us
This.
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Under 12 prediction: 19-11, KU
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Since we are their Super Bowl, KU will hit some ridiculous ISU-esque threes to the tune of 23/30 (made/attempted). We make 0/13 at half and 4/28 for the game because of basketball reasons. :barf:
I will continue to expect Will to piss his pants in big games until he proves me otherwise.
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
In our first matchup, we had 9 points from our bigs. Somebody explain to me why this number increases dramatically at AFH?
I'll concede that its only a 4 game stretch, but Gip is playing the best basketball of his career. The biggest question is if he'll be able to stay out of foul trouble.
Gip has played great against guys who are 6'6 - 6'8. See ISU, OU, Tech. Or against guys who are compete puds. See UT. Withey is 7'0 and plays 33 mpg. He just doesn't match-up well.
I'm not concerned with KU's offense, per se. I think they'll score better than they have in the last 3 games, though. I'm concerned that our offense will look like it did in Manhattan - basically relying on the 3 ball because we get no post production and Withey clogs up the paint.
If somebody can tell me how we get 15+ pts out of Gip and JO, I'll be more at ease.
they went to Lawrence last night to shoot at AFH
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How many times have we won at AFH the last 25 years? How many times have we beaten KU in the last 25 years, period? No difference in talent can totally explain that. It's a mental thing, further evidenced by how deep we dig a hole at the beginning of each of these games. To say "we'll be all right if we can just keep it close in the first half" is worth about as much as "we'll be all right if we can just finish the game with more points."
This is the most vulnerable KU team in a long while - just not for K-State. The only question is whether the loss tonight is also gonna eff us for Baylor. Hope not.
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Wooly and Dramane Diarra won at AFH. How hard can it be? :popcorn:
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Wooly and Dramane Diarra won at AFH. How hard can it be? :popcorn:
I hate to tell you, but Dramane (or Sky Thomas) ain't walking through that door.
Nor is the leading scorer for the Cats that afternoon... but both he and Sky (and Meriemaweather) were at the OOD Saturday to watch the Cats beat ISU.
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Lots of Battered Women's Syndrome in this thread.
No kidding. Newsflash idiots . . .
We're Good
In our first matchup, we had 9 points from our bigs. Somebody explain to me why this number increases dramatically at AFH?
If we get as many wide open looks from the 3 point line as the last game, we won't really need production from our bigs. We will just need to make a reasonable percentage of wide open 3's.
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The refs will call fouls closeley, which normally screws us over. But, barring some major home cooking, that will also incapacitate the foul machine Withey as well. We can run JO, Gip, and Nino in the paint, and have them all foul out for that matter, but Withey will go with them. As I said earlier, KU is worried about guard play, K-State needs to make them worry inside, and a closely-called game is just what the doctor ordered.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Probably. :frown:
If Will has another 0 point performance against KU, he should have to get a ride back with his parents.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Probably. :frown:
If Will has another 0 point performance against KU, he should have to get a ride back with his parents.
Definitely no trip to Dairy Queen on the way home if that happens
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How many times have we won at AFH the last 25 years? How many times have we beaten KU in the last 25 years, period? No difference in talent can totally explain that. It's a mental thing, further evidenced by how deep we dig a hole at the beginning of each of these games. To say "we'll be all right if we can just keep it close in the first half" is worth about as much as "we'll be all right if we can just finish the game with more points."
This is the most vulnerable KU team in a long while - just not for K-State. The only question is whether the loss tonight is also gonna eff us for Baylor. Hope not.
Also the fact that they have been more talented than us in practically every one of the last 25 seasons, in most cases much more talented. In the last 25 years, 1999 is the only year they were not starting at least one first round draft pick (2 second rounders, Robertson and Chenowith). We have started first rounders in 2008 and 1988.
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Someone should come up with a Sprads drinking game.
Sprads misses a wide open 3, take a shot
Sprads get burnt on defense for an easy bucket, take a shot
Shannon Spradling name drop, finish your beer
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Someone should come up with a Sprads drinking game.
Sprads misses a wide open 3, take a shot
Sprads get burnt on defense for an easy bucket, take a shot
Shannon Spradling name drop, finish your beer
Pass. I have had alcohol poisoning before. It's not a lot of fun.
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But, barring some major home cooking, that will also incapacitate the foul machine Withey as well.
wut
:confused:
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Yeah, Withey is never in foul trouble.
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But, barring some major home cooking, that will also incapacitate the foul machine Withey as well.
wut
:confused:
Sorry Beems, a lot of the battered women in here think that KU gets super preferential treatment from the referees. It's pretty dumb.
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Fouling a lot and being called for fouls are two separate things.
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some of you are weird.
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But, barring some major home cooking, that will also incapacitate the foul machine Withey as well.
wut
:confused:
Sorry Beems, a lot of the battered women in here think that KU gets super preferential treatment from the referees. It's pretty dumb.
I think there have been times when shitty officiating in AFH have hurt us (Walker's mystery 3rd foul comes to mine), but that is more a shitty officiating complaint and less a preferential treatment complaint. Withey gets away with a few because he is generally very good at not fouling, so officials give him the benefit of the doubt on occasion. Not a complaint, but just generally what I would expect as a benefit to a shot blocker that doesn't think every block needs to end up in the 2nd row.
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I suppose we have Higgins tonight?
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BigXII refs are notoriously susceptible to home crowd influence. Give KU fans credit. KSU fans should be the first to admit that we get some calls at home that we don't get on the road. I credit some of that to our fans. Refs are human and make emotional calls from time to time.
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Yeah, seems like we got some good home cookin last year a few games. Not trying to turn this into a Frank thread but wonder if that had anything to do with it :dunno:
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Sorry Beems, a lot of the battered women in here think that KU gets super preferential treatment from the referees. It's pretty dumb.
The presumption was that the game, including bad calls, would be called evenly, dumbass. Get off Beems nuts, read the entire post, and maybe, just maybe, you'll get the drift.
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Schyler Thomas update, about my request to him to send us some of his 06' ju ju today:
Fanning: "Buddy, we haven't won at the phog since you iced it in 06'. I need some good ju ju from you today".
Sky: "Haha!! Well I've had a decent morning and a great week this past week so I'm feeling good if that helps!"
:ksu:
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Wooly and Dramane Diarra won at AFH. How hard can it be? :popcorn:
I hate to tell you, but Dramane (or Sky Thomas) ain't walking through that door.
Nor is the leading scorer for the Cats that afternoon... but both he and Sky (and Meriemaweather) were at the OOD Saturday to watch the Cats beat ISU.
Double D was/is in Manhattan? that is great
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Wooly and Dramane Diarra won at AFH. How hard can it be? :popcorn:
I hate to tell you, but Dramane (or Sky Thomas) ain't walking through that door.
Nor is the leading scorer for the Cats that afternoon... but both he and Sky (and Meriemaweather) were at the OOD Saturday to watch the Cats beat ISU.
Double D was/is in Manhattan? that is great
I think Dramane Diarra might have had the highest ever Name-to-BBall Skills ratio OAT.
name = 100/100
bball skills = 1/100
name/bball skills = 100 (highest possible ratio)
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Sorry for the confusion. Unfortunately DD was not in Manhattan, but Sky, Meri, and Stew (the leading scorer when we last won in Lawrence) were there.
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15-13 Cats at the under 12 time out.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
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PREDICTION UPDATE:
We hit 4 threes in a row in the first four possessions, putting our lead at 12-1 at the 17 minute mark. Massa calls a TO, explodes and spills the spaghetti he'll be eating all over the court, which is made from very acidic spaghetti sauce (pH<2). The sauce eats through the floor and causes it to collapse, forcing the refs to call the game and adds X10 to both teams scores. K-State wins 120-10. :D
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
Tell that to the idiots who think he is actually going to show up.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
Tell that to the idiots who think he is actually going to show up.
Nobody here does. The only time Sprads MIGHT make a couple shots against ku would be if we meet on his homecourt in the Sprint Center. I predicted 0-7 from 3 last time and he was 0-5, I'll go with 0-6 tonight
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
Tell that to the idiots who think he is actually going to show up.
Nobody here does. The only time Sprads MIGHT make a couple shots against ku would be if we meet on his homecourt in the Sprint Center. I predicted 0-7 from 3 last time and he was 0-5, I'll go with 0-6 tonight
Sprads would go 0-7 against KU in the Shawnee Mission South gym
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I'm somewhat optimistic that Spradling might make 2-3 3-pointers, opening things up inside for us to have a nice game. I'm usually way too optimistic about the Cats, though.
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PREDICTION UPDATE:
We hit 4 threes in a row in the first four possessions, putting our lead at 12-1 at the 17 minute mark. Massa calls a TO, explodes and spills the spaghetti he'll be eating all over the court, which is made from very acidic spaghetti sauce (pH<2). The sauce eats through the floor and causes it to collapse, forcing the refs to call the game and adds X10 to both teams scores. K-State wins 120-10. :D
Is this theoretically possible?
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
Tell that to the idiots who think he is actually going to show up.
Where do I find said idiots? I don't know anybody who thinks Sprads will show up.
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Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.
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Sprads gonna Sprads tonight
Which means he will be a no show against KU. That is what Spradling does against KU.
Yeah, that's the point, dumbass.
Tell that to the idiots who think he is actually going to show up.
Name 1 on this board. Seriously, find me a quote of someone on goEMAW who thinks Sprads is going to show up tonight.
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Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.
I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."
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“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”
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“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”
Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
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i think sprads is gonna go off, so suck my dick GC(second worst city in kansas)jayhawker.
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i think sprads is gonna go off, so suck my dick GC(second worst city in kansas)jayhawker.
:surprised:
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I'm calling it. Sprads is going to go off tonight and we win by 8-13 points. He sinks more than 3 3 pointers.
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PREDICTION UPDATE:
We hit 4 threes in a row in the first four possessions, putting our lead at 12-1 at the 17 minute mark. Massa calls a TO, explodes and spills the spaghetti he'll be eating all over the court, which is made from very acidic spaghetti sauce (pH<2). The sauce eats through the floor and causes it to collapse, forcing the refs to call the game and adds X10 to both teams scores. K-State wins 120-10. :D
Is this theoretically possible?
Yes
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Guys, we're going to lose. Let's just resign ourselves to it and start mentally preparing for Baylor.
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This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.
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This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.
Nope, denied. Lot of basketball left :fistpump:
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This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.
Not if you've already accepted defeat. understand?
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Well I used to get angry.
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If sprads goes off, it will be one of those Wooly Asbury things where the unlikeliest guy has a 20+ pt game and everyone else sucks balls and taints and we lose.
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15-13 Cats at the under 12 time out.
:cheese:
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This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.
Nope, denied. Lot of basketball left :fistpump:
Agreed. Win would be amazing, but we'll be in first place tomorrow either way. Won't start sweating til the 4th loss. Feeling a nice combo of :excited: and :cool: today.
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some most of you are weird dumb.
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some of you are weird.
You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some of you are weird.
You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?
Didn't hurt us last time we played KU.
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some of you are weird.
You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?
It could. Doesn't mean we are going to get blown out because of it anymore than KU not getting blown out because they don't have a point guard and can't shoot.
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kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes. fine all game. my goodness but some of you are weird.
You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?
Didn't hurt us last time we played KU.
You're right, but it's definitely a possibility.
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This game is all about Withey.
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Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.
I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."
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“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”
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“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”
Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...
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we lost in the bram because we missed like 900 wide open shots. if we play the exact same way and only miss 450 wide open shots, we should be ok.
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Believing that KSU will perform well tonight in AFH is basically the quintesential definition of 'faith.'
"firm belief in something for which there is no proof."
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I get the transition defense point, but it sticks out because when we get beat its really bad, but it's not common. Over the season, we haven't given up a ton of fast break points. I don't think it's a big factor in this game.
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I get the transition defense point, but it sticks out because when we get beat its really bad, but it's not common. Over the season, we haven't given up a ton of fast break points. I don't think it's a big factor in this game.
Fast break points usually are a pretty big factor when we lose in Allen Fieldhouse. But, their guard play is not great this year, so I could see it being a minimal factor in this particular game.
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Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse. It's just a basketball court. Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years. It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit. It is because of a significant talent disparity. A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.
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Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse. It's just a basketball court. Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years. It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit. It is because of a significant talent disparity. A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.
The refs!! The refs!!! :runaway:
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Guys makes sure to set your DVR tonight and save yourself the $30 it'll cost you to buy the DVD of this ass kicking :bball:
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Matchups
Withey/Gipson
Young/Southwell
McLemore/McGruder - Push, maybe slight McGruder because of defense. ORating is even in conference play.
Relaford/Spradling
Johnson/#teamAngel
Tharpe/Irving
Ellis/Henriquez
Traylor/Williams :dunno:
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Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse. It's just a basketball court. Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years. It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit. It is because of a significant talent disparity. A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.
8man, you are fighting the good fight and I'm with you.
We can do this.
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Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.
I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."
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“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”
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“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”
Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...
can't tell if serious...
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Prediction at the 8 minute mark: 18 - 8 KU
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i agree that we're totally mumped tonight
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Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse. It's just a basketball court. Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years. It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit. It is because of a significant talent disparity. A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.
The superior talent played a big part, but KU loses to less talented teams every year - it's just almost never kstate. There is more to it than that. Case in point, KU is weak this year, but they still beat us at home, and were gonna lose worse in Allen. Bounce back against Baylor.
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Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.
I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."
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“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”
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“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”
Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...
can't tell if serious...
I used italics instead of (!) for the sarcasm.
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It could. Doesn't mean we are going to get blown out because of it anymore than KU not getting blown out because they don't have a point guard and can't shoot.
yeah, their guards are crap. they were lucky in mhk. don't think they'll be as lucky tonight.
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Sorry it took 10 min
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of course
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This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.
Welp.
For those of you who still deluded yourselves into thinking this perfect storm of KU anus-raping wasn't going to happen tonight I salute your tuckish behavior.
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Same rough ridin' crap
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It still kinda hurts even when you know it's coming
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They could show up with 3 players in AFH and Rod and co would still poop themselves. What a bunch of pussies.